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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 2, 2024 6:56:29 GMT 1
No idea why a separate thread needs to be made. We know where we are, what we are and what needs to happen. Just got to be patient and hope for the best. Because if you put it on a match thread you'd complain. If you don't like the subject then ignore the thread, the subject makes it quite clear what it will be about |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 2, 2024 7:35:42 GMT 1
In the 35 (ish) years of supporting the club Ive seen plenty of low moment's and whilst this certainly isn't the the worse, its probably the most apathy Ive felt and never felt so disconnected from the club.
A friend of mine is away for a bit so offered me his season ticket for the next 4 games. I went Saturday and it was ok, nothing more than that. I live about a mile from the ground and had a free ticket but still couldn't be bothered to go last night, judging by the crowd I was amongst plenty who made the same decision. I probably wont bother with Exeter at home and then Im away for Barnsley, the next home game Im likely to go to is Brum at the end of November. That will be approx 2 months without a match and sadly my feeling is relief.
When I gave up my season ticket this season it was partially personal circumstances but also frustrations with last season, however I said it would be a one off and Id be back next season. However when season tickets go on sale, if we find ourselves with the same chairman and generally in the same position as we are today then I cant see me coming back next year. I take no pleasure in that.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 7:43:17 GMT 1
No idea why a separate thread needs to be made. We know where we are, what we are and what needs to happen. Just got to be patient and hope for the best. We need many more of these threads at this moment in time. I'm stunned at the level of grim acceptance amongst our support. A few gripes nailed on to the end a match thread just won't do. The club does pay attention. At the moment they do not need to act as there is no real groundswell for change. Voices need to heard. It's clear that ownership will change but this won't happen most likely until the summer. If we have any chance of staying in L1 action needs to be taken immediately and the current manager who has an abysmal win rate of 16% needs to be firmly escorted from the premises. Yer a few more threads on here will surely convince RW to shave a few mill of his asking price and rush through the deal. We have no choice but to accept it. We have accepted relegation in exchange for sustainability. It's s**t, frustrating and very concerning but having a tantrum won't change that. The solution to the problem is a takeover which everyone connected with Salop wants, including RW. |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 2, 2024 7:43:55 GMT 1
In the 35 (ish) years of supporting the club Ive seen plenty of low moment's and whilst this certainly isn't the the worse, its probably the most apathy Ive felt and never felt so disconnected from the club. A friend of mine is away for a bit so offered me his season ticket for the next 4 games. I went Saturday and it was ok, nothing more than that. I live about a mile from the ground and had a free ticket but still couldn't be bothered to go last night, judging by the crowd I was amongst plenty who made the same decision. I probably wont bother with Exeter at home and then Im away for Barnsley, the next home game Im likely to go to is Brum at the end of November. That will be approx 2 months without a match and sadly my feeling is relief. When I gave up my season ticket this season it was partially personal circumstances but also frustrations with last season, however I said it would be a one off and Id be back next season. However when season tickets go on sale, if we find ourselves with the same chairman and generally in the same position as we are today then I cant see me coming back next year. I take no pleasure in that. I was as close as I’ve ever been to not renewing for this season, but blind loyalty took over and I renewed. Last night I sat there numbly thinking what is the point I’m already thinking I shouldn’t renew whilst RW remains at the helm of our club, only 4 years ago I was gifting our club £400 in Covid, now I’m not wanting to let them waste another penny of mine I don’t buy the “he’s put in £Xm” argument either. That money was lost on his watch. He chose to be a 1 man board. He chose to not have the support and structures in place to stop it happening. He chose to tell us 10 years ago he was seeking investment when finding sweet FA to keep us sustainable. Too damn right he should have to sort the mess out now, buck stops with the owner, if he wasn’t doing so then we’d really see what people think. I’m sad it’s ending like this, but it has to be called out, too many people get a free ride by our fair play, very loyal, supportive fan base, but we can’t let apathy see us spiral out of control Pressure needs to be on to sort a sale out - we were lied to 10 years ago in the Accounts, we can’t let it happen again |
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 7:45:28 GMT 1
No idea why a separate thread needs to be made. We know where we are, what we are and what needs to happen. Just got to be patient and hope for the best. Because if you put it on a match thread you'd complain. If you don't like the subject then ignore the thread, the subject makes it quite clear what it will be about You made a seperate thread and in your first line you spoke about the game before proceeding to post the same stuff that's been discussed to death. |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 2, 2024 7:46:25 GMT 1
We need many more of these threads at this moment in time. I'm stunned at the level of grim acceptance amongst our support. A few gripes nailed on to the end a match thread just won't do. The club does pay attention. At the moment they do not need to act as there is no real groundswell for change. Voices need to heard. It's clear that ownership will change but this won't happen most likely until the summer. If we have any chance of staying in L1 action needs to be taken immediately and the current manager who has an abysmal win rate of 16% needs to be firmly escorted from the premises. Yer a few more threads on here will surely convince RW to shave a few mill of his asking price and rush through the deal. We have no choice but to accept it. We have accepted relegation in exchange for sustainability. It's s**t, frustrating and very concerning but having a tantrum won't change that. The solution to the problem is a takeover which everyone connected with Salop wants, including RW. Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 2, 2024 8:05:10 GMT 1
Because if you put it on a match thread you'd complain. If you don't like the subject then ignore the thread, the subject makes it quite clear what it will be about You made a seperate thread and in your first line you spoke about the game before proceeding to post the same stuff that's been discussed to death. You've got me confused with someone else as I didn't create the thread But yes things are being discussed to death, we are second bottom, lost 7 out of 9, have 1 win in 16, are stuck in limbo until the takeover happens and you think we should just sit quietly and not discuss any of this?? No it won't change anything but if you are thinking that we can't change anything so there's's no point discussing it, then that by logic we may as well shut down the messageboard as it impacts very little of what this club does. And if you are simply bored by it then as I've said I'd suggest ignoring the thread |
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Post by mattmw on Oct 2, 2024 8:16:21 GMT 1
Lowest point at this club in 21 years Since the summer of 2018 we have had new low, after new low, after new low...Askey shocking. Rickettsball. Cotterill overspent and anti-football. Taylor shocking. Hurst mk2...shocking record so far. Surely this downward slope, of 6 long years so far, has to start turning upward. Whether the answer is L2 or a change at the top or whatever. I'm at the stage now where I don't want us to stay up. Because next year it will be the same again. We have scraped so many times to stay in this league, we don't belong here. L2 is our level. Prove me wrong Town. Think that contrast between the 2007 - 2018 period and 2018 to now is a very stark one. The move to the new ground did herald a big improvement in the clubs fortunes with promotions and relegations and play off finals and a general feeling progress was being made Since 2018 it’s really been a steady decline in managerial appointments and gradually the quality and style of play has got worse each year, with the board also shrinking and gap between us and the divisions big spenders getting bigger and bigger. Still think that play off loss and subsequent loss of players and Hurst to Ipswich really knocked the stuffing out of the club and we’ve never quite recovered since Sort of resigned to League 2 already but do also have the nagging feeling that will be no easy option either. Especially if no new finance and working practices come in too. That 2007 to 2018 period might just be as good as it gets for Town for a long while yet |
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Post by dibblydobbly on Oct 2, 2024 8:17:37 GMT 1
Yer a few more threads on here will surely convince RW to shave a few mill of his asking price and rush through the deal. We have no choice but to accept it. We have accepted relegation in exchange for sustainability. It's s**t, frustrating and very concerning but having a tantrum won't change that. The solution to the problem is a takeover which everyone connected with Salop wants, including RW. Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 2, 2024 8:28:03 GMT 1
Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. I’m on about letting our club lose £3m in a year due to not having the correct board structures and the correct checks and balances in place… that’s what was amateurish Nothing to do with Catering 😂 feel free to start a thread praising them though |
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Post by dibblydobbly on Oct 2, 2024 8:32:32 GMT 1
Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. I’m on about letting our club lose £3m in a year due to not having the correct board structures and the correct checks and balances in place… that’s what was amateurish Nothing to do with Catering 😂 feel free to start a thread praising them though amateurish You said it - now it is being done right |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 2, 2024 9:05:51 GMT 1
We won a safeguarding award!
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 2, 2024 9:05:53 GMT 1
This is the worst time under RW's reign for sure. I'm genuinely sad that we'll send him off in these dire circumstances. He deserves better but he has no one to blame but himself. The idea that Hurst would waltz in and carry on where he left off was frankly insane. Anyone paying the vaguest attention to his work since he left here would have known what the predictable outcome would be. No one believes for a second that Moore brought in Hurst. Wouldn't even have been anywhere near his shortlist. The horrific state of the squad and the abysmal recruitment over the summer pretty much ties the hands of PH's replacement. He'd be reliant on getting the best out whatever talent we have. Lets hope RW doesn't dig his heels in and sticks it out with the current management team. We know that RW won't move on for quite some time yet but we need to progress on the pitch. PH has failed. His time is up. im not a fan of Hurst,but i do feel sorry for him, he has been given poisoned chalice . his decision to bring back the old boys has cost us lots of game. tactically we have been poor. we have recruited players on a pound stretcher budget and you get what you pay for. we cant score and we cant defend .the club is rudderless and stagnating. my real concern is if things don't change, we will get relegated out league one and league two then drop into non league football obscurity. i really hope we can produce a miracle and stay up but i cant see how it will happen. |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 2, 2024 9:09:26 GMT 1
Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. good to hear. |
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Post by WATR on Oct 2, 2024 9:35:44 GMT 1
Delighted to hear that those in the Sovereign Suite enjoyed their pre-match meal.
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Post by vladimir on Oct 2, 2024 9:36:03 GMT 1
Unable to attract investment over many years, finances out of control, rumours of executive level excess and misspend in recent years with no financial control excercised. A succession of managerial appointments, a constant turnover of players, a lack of player sales or development of assets to help with the finances. Academy output down to new lows. Apathy in the fan base.
But hey at least some walls have been painted and some new carpets are looking good. Congratulations Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by iestywfc on Oct 2, 2024 9:36:32 GMT 1
A neutrals opinion:
It certainly wasn't the best of games from either team really. Stockport had rung the changes, Shrewsbury seemed to set up as they have in the preceding games.
Unfortunately you can tell Shrewsbury are a team with low confidence. Players taking 1 touch too many, taking the safe passes and ignoring good runs off the ball. Not wanting to make the mistakes that lead to conceding goals, when in fact they are making mistakes by not taking opportunities. Double edged sword.
Your team is certainly a variable lot, quality wise. Highlights for me were Poole, younger Feeney, Castledine, Lloyd and Sagoe Jr when he came on. Lloyd, however, should not be a solo man up front and would work great with a big man to his side.
Rossiter has obvious quality but couldn't find a forward pass, mainly due to lack of movement in front of him. Bloxham tries but again you can tell he is low in confidence. Benning.... why is he your set piece taker???
the goals were very sloppy to concede and it must be frustrating with your set piece defending. When Barry, Norwood and Wootton came on, you knew there was going to be trouble. Stockport hadn't been getting deliveries past the front post from corners all match, and when they finally got a good delivery in they score from panic in the box. Savin did very well to deny Wootton a second goal though after his mazy dribble through your back line, and he stopped a signature Barry strike also.
I honestly don't know what to think of Hurst as a manager. He obviously lets his staff do his shouting (Doig is a man mountain - at least compared to Hurst who I didn't realise was so small) but he seems bereft of ideas. The squad obviously has no real depth at present. Will he be kept around once you have new investors? doubtful. Is there anyone who could improve the squad morale? unsure.
As for my match day experience, the Sovereign is a nice setting, had a little talk from Dave Edwards and his mate (and ex red) Sam Aiston was also there. Had a nice pint of Hobsons but didn't choose to eat the food. my seats were directly behind the dugouts and could hear all the bickering from both benches - mainly aimed at the fourth official!
Really hope that things pick up for you. There are shining lights and you would hope getting some more positive results will improve morale and confidence
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Oct 2, 2024 9:44:41 GMT 1
Thanks iesty
Sorry you had to witness such dire football.
My two pennies is this.
If RW wanted to stay we would probably turn this around and put up some fight, finish 20th.
What concerns me more is that if the chairman wants out it needs to happen sooner rather than later because if I’d put in millions and then people mostly wanted me out I wouldn’t spend another penny!
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Post by mattmw on Oct 2, 2024 10:24:51 GMT 1
Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. It’s good to hear the off field side of the club and hospitality is going well. Is there any sense you know off that the improvements there are generating additional income streams and new bookings and users starting to come in and use the facilities? It’s an important part of the overall picture of generating more off field revenue which perhaps hadn’t been as effective as it should have been in the past |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 2, 2024 10:35:46 GMT 1
Watching town is like watching a samurai film were they die from a thousands wounds.
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 2, 2024 10:59:22 GMT 1
The atmosphere in safe standing has fallen apart. Doesn’t that say it all? Nobody can be arsed anymore. That is our young part of the fan base.
A Tuesday night under the lights is supposed to be atmospheric. I can’t remember the last time the stadium felt anything approaching loud.
It was a depressing turnout on arrival, and depressing fare on the pitch.
I know we have spent ages in League One but doing it by scoring the least in the league and struggling along is still decline of the club and eventually only going one way. This season is going to be THAT way, and THAT way is down. I can’t see us coming back for a while.
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Post by iestywfc on Oct 2, 2024 11:09:31 GMT 1
without sounding condescending, maybe dropping down to L2 would be a good thing in the short term? Whether that affects any potential takeover is another matter
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Post by talkingoftheshrews on Oct 2, 2024 11:10:14 GMT 1
The atmosphere in safe standing has fallen apart. Doesn’t that say it all? Nobody can be arsed anymore. That is our young part of the fan base. A Tuesday night under the lights is supposed to be atmospheric. I can’t remember the last time the stadium felt anything approaching loud. It was a depressing turnout on arrival, and depressing fare on the pitch. I know we have spent ages in League One but doing it by scoring the least in the league and struggling along is still decline of the club and eventually only going one way. This season is going to be THAT way, and THAT way is down. I can’t see us coming back for a while. Agree wholeheartedly about the league one point. This is our tenth season in league one, and I'd argue we've had 1 and 2/3rds of a good time (17/18 under Hurst and the first two-thirds of 22/23 under Cotterill). On the whole, we've been pretty poor. Bouncing between 16-19th, barely scoring goals, relying on defensive football and teams being worse than us to survive. There's the financial aspect of league one, but given we are where we are now, that's been negated. Wonder what you'd get from a supporters poll which gave fans either of these options: - 10 seasons in league one, with only 1.66 of these being good. - 10 years bouncing between League One and League Two, where we're winning more games in league Two and enjoying a promotion or two. In a way it does feel like that play off final in 2018 was the sliding doors moment. And it's been trending downhill at various speeds since |
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 2, 2024 11:14:39 GMT 1
I don't normally get to see any of the early games as I am tied up with my local village cricket team.
I have read all the views from fans regarding games earlier in the season and Rotherham on Saturday was my first chance to run the rule over the team.
My thoughts as follows:
Rotherham and Stockport last night were very similar games in the sense that we looked good on the ball at times with the ball played on the deck and some sharp (but ineffective) passing amongst ourselves - in sharp contrast to the hoof ball we have endured in recent years.
Against Rotherham, but for a very dubious decision for the penalty we would have three points in the bag and this would have raised spirits. Whilst Rotherham had the majority of the possession we looked assured at the back and Mr Savin had an easy afternoon.
Stockport in some ways was similar in that if we look back at the first half and a neutral was watching, they wouldn't be able to tell which team was 9th and which was second bottom in my view. However goals change games - if we had put away the great chance from 6 yards in first half then the result may have been different. Second half however we didn't threaten to score and the game only came alight towards the end when Mr Sagoe Junior came on and started running at defenders and creating deadball opportunities around the box.
Looking at the team as individuals for the first time I thought we have a good Keeper between the sticks. I like Mr Feeny Junior on loan from Villa, Mr Rossiter looked very capable together with the young boy from Chelsea. Mr Benning gets up and down the touch line quite well (but prefer Mr Nurse when fit). Mr Bloxham caused a few problems in the first half.
I like the effort put in by Mr lloyd but quite frankly he is a fish out of water playing the sole striker role - Carlton Morris he is not
On the other hand Messrs Gilliad and Ojo are not up to standard to be starting games every week when we have players such as Mr Shipley sitting on the bench.
The two games I have witnessed seem to conform to the same pattern as earlier games in the season. We haven't been played off the park and we are in the games for large periods but a mixture of poor finishing and rub of the green are not in our favour.
Fundamentally Mr Hurst needs to re-think tactics and formations in particular as the way the team is set up is not going to make us competitive.
Finally, I must comment on the atmosphere at the meadow, which last night in particular, is very poor. Its a long time since I last saw such a low attendance as last night and such a quiet crowd.
Whilst we are second bottom and looking in a poor state we also need to remember that most of our games have been against all the top sides in the division (Rotherham will up at the top end of the table before long) and only the game against Orient was against a genuinely lowly side. It wont get any easier unfortunately as Birmingham and Bolton are coming down the tracks.
Lets all keep the faith and get behind the boys. COYBs
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 2, 2024 11:15:42 GMT 1
Yer a few more threads on here will surely convince RW to shave a few mill of his asking price and rush through the deal. We have no choice but to accept it. We have accepted relegation in exchange for sustainability. It's s**t, frustrating and very concerning but having a tantrum won't change that. The solution to the problem is a takeover which everyone connected with Salop wants, including RW. Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more What's the alternative? We are already for sale, the transfer window is closed and we can't afford to sack hurst and replace him. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 11:42:16 GMT 1
No idea why a separate thread needs to be made. We know where we are, what we are and what needs to happen. Just got to be patient and hope for the best. it was 2 weeks in the making |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 11:51:03 GMT 1
Well we’re being told that a few threads on here convinced him to get Hurst back… so who knows!! And no, we don’t have to accept anything. I won’t accept this. Paid another £400 to the club this year for what? “Accepting” amateurish s**te off the pitch and total rubbish on it? For too long people at this club get a free ride. Look at the mess it’s left us in. No more Well I was in the Sovereign last night and there were no complaints about food no compaints about service in fact there were compliments yet again no complaints about the new paint job which looks great no complaints about having new carpets no complaints about the beer. The two Andys are doing a great job with sponsors, some of whom I met, car park worked seamlessly , Stewarding had no issues, Every part of the system off the field seemed to be working fine, staffed by people who are working hard and doing their very best. So with apologies I cannot accept that the hard working staff should be attacked in this way, what those 22 players do on that pitch no-one can control, once they step over that line. While it grieves us that the result went against us, and we all have opinions as to why, off the pitch is working very well. but you know how certain people work, they have to moan about something after every game, if we lose they cant wait to moan, and feel entitled to announce how the world is about to end and discuss their life story about how they have watched us for a hundred years and are now not coming again, if we win they will just moan about the decor or how we should have won more convincingly they are part of the cancel culture |
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 2, 2024 11:56:25 GMT 1
I don’t get it, I really really don’t. We all love Shrewsbury Town, and pay money to support/watch them. For years we’ve barely scored goals, and we are currently 7 losses from 9 and our once sustainably run club is losing money at a rate it never has before.
Why would people not use a messageboard to moan about it, when genuinely disappointed/worried? It is surely the whole point.
Your position is set for eventual new owners. You bring up Burton’s poor start at every opportunity. So you will moan if and when new owners arrive, we are still crap and we lose lots of money. And rightly so. That we can’t do it because Wycherley used to run the club well years ago baffles me. Our current position would be questioned by everyone, if new owners led us down this current path.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 2, 2024 12:04:18 GMT 1
I don’t get it, I really really don’t. We all love Shrewsbury Town, and pay money to support/watch them. For years we’ve barely scored goals, and we are currently 7 losses from 9 and our once sustainably run club is losing money at a rate it never has before. Why would people not use a messageboard to moan about it, when genuinely disappointed/worried? It is surely the whole point. Your position is set for eventual new owners. You bring up Burton’s poor start at every opportunity. So you will moan if and when new owners arrive, we are still crap and we lose lots of money. And rightly so. That we can’t do it because Wycherley used to run the club well years ago baffles me. Our current position would be questioned by everyone, if new owners led us down this current path. this is why the club up for sale hes trying to sell it but is still paying the bills either you want him to have the proverbial 5 year plan or you want him to sell up asap and hand over to someone else make your mind up |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 2, 2024 12:24:51 GMT 1
but you know how certain people work, they have to moan about something after every game, if we lose they cant wait to moan, This is not people 'moaning' after a game because we've lost that game, this is people 'moaning' because we've lost 7 out of 9 and won 1 out of the last 16. And on that note, you've recently been taking digs at fans for seemingly accepting defeats and suggesting they would be more critical if it was under another manager (e.g. Taylor or Ricketts) . And then yet if fans offer criticism you accuse them of moaning and then bizarrely being part of cancel culture. |
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