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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 20, 2021 20:37:39 GMT 1
Cotterill has more idea about how to get us out of this situation than Askey and Ricketts combined. Cotterlll isn't going to shag you Having more idea than Askey and Ricketts is a low bar mind.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 21:06:36 GMT 1
Cotterlll isn't going to shag you Having more idea than Askey and Ricketts is a low bar mind. I didn’t say the bars were high , I just didn’t think they would get repeatedly lower and lower
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 20, 2021 21:13:02 GMT 1
Having more idea than Askey and Ricketts is a low bar mind. I didn’t say the bars were high , I just didn’t think they would get repeatedly lower and lower I don't agree that they are. Although the best managerial appointment in the lst three years does seem to be the former goalkeeping coach.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 20, 2021 21:37:54 GMT 1
A year since Pilch got divorced and he’s still not over it. Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense, the chap was sacked, just finally move on Pilch.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 21:45:27 GMT 1
A year since Pilch got divorced and he’s still not over it. Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense, the chap was sacked, just finally move on Pilch. if ever we needed proof that you ignore what th topic is and lay right into me this is it its about askey and Cotterill how about you move on from me
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Post by SamHarvey on Nov 20, 2021 21:46:32 GMT 1
... the grass isn’t always greener. The football and results are worse than the 10 games leading to Askey’s sacking What do you martyrs propose we do now? Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now? You are clueless mate.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 20, 2021 21:49:19 GMT 1
Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now? You are clueless mate. Bit like Ricketts.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 21:50:31 GMT 1
I didn’t say the bars were high , I just didn’t think they would get repeatedly lower and lower I don't agree that they are. Although the best managerial appointment in the lst three years does seem to be the former goalkeeping coach. cotterills last 46 league games for us have totalled 52 points, maybe enough to stay up trouble is he needs 20 points from the next 30 just to keep that at 52
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 21:52:05 GMT 1
Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now? You are clueless mate. give us a clue why
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 21:54:58 GMT 1
A year since Pilch got divorced and he’s still not over it. Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense, the chap was sacked, just finally move on Pilch. can I just remind you that you are Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense ? ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 21:58:53 GMT 1
A year since Pilch got divorced and he’s still not over it. Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense, the chap was sacked, just finally move on Pilch. As Ian Anderson once wrote, "Oh we won't give in, Let's go living in the past..." 😅
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Post by vladimir on Nov 20, 2021 22:02:24 GMT 1
Cotterill has more idea about how to get us out of this situation than Askey and Ricketts combined. Cotterlll isn't going to shag you Did ricketts shag you? Would explain a lot.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 22:06:23 GMT 1
A year since Pilch got divorced and he’s still not over it. Sick and tired of all this Ricketts nonsense, the chap was sacked, just finally move on Pilch. As Ian Anderson once wrote, "Let's go living in the past..." 😅 “Often those that criticise others reveal what he himself lacks.” ― Shannon L. Alder
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 22:08:25 GMT 1
Cotterlll isn't going to shag you Did ricketts shag you? Would explain a lot. Ricketts, why are we on about rickets and me ? is this the daily Pilch character assassination thread that must involve ricketts ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 22:14:47 GMT 1
As Ian Anderson once wrote, "Let's go living in the past..." 😅 “Often those that criticise others reveal what he himself lacks.” ― Shannon L. Alder A bit of culture for a Saturday evening 😉
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 20, 2021 22:19:36 GMT 1
This b******s yet again? Jesus Christ this boards going rapidly downhill.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 22:27:48 GMT 1
This b******s yet again? Jesus Christ this boards going rapidly downhill. the problem is some people just cant handle a bit of harmless debate without ganging up and getting all mouthy and personal did my fetching up this thread hurt anyone ?, it coincides with askey only getting 17 games, today was our 17th game should I post about wrexham every other post or how good January is going to be or what ? maybe if I start a government bashing thread ? maybe I could pretend covid has ended anything as long as I dont mention the current ****ing manager of town eh ? jeez how come you didnt moan at previous comparisons this board is full of bullying hypocrites blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98947/ricketts-askey-winsblueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101406/cotterill-effect
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 20, 2021 23:13:03 GMT 1
It's not the fact that you've brought it up. It's the way you've brought it up.
1)Perpetuating the idea that fans hounded Askey out of the job. He was sacked by the chairman having lost his confidence. To me Askey looked as though he regreted coming here before the season started. I suspect that there was a problem in the working relationship with the chairman. No way, otherwise, would he have been sacked so early. Askey was a poor appointment; his experience was much less than Hurst's. It was a gamble and didn't pay off. I'm glad he was removed when he was. 2) Excludes the possibility that Askey, Ricketts and Cotterill are all mediocre appointments. Which either they are and/or we're a mediocre club.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 23:20:07 GMT 1
It's not the fact that you've brought it up. It's the way you've bought it up. 1)Perpetuating the idea that fans hounded Askey out of the job. He was sacked by the chairman having lost his confidence. To me Askey looked as though he regreted coming here before the season started. I suspect that there was a problem in the working relationship with the chairman. No way, otherwise, would he have been sacked so early. Askey was a poor appointment; his experience was much less than Hurst's. It was a gamble and didn't pay off. I'm glad he was removed when he was. 2) Excludes the possibility that Askey, Ricketts and Cotterill are all mediocre appointments. Which either they are and/or we're a mediocre club. bit late for a adult debate, the messenger got executed by a baying Lynch mob about an hour ago
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Post by harboroughshrew on Nov 20, 2021 23:42:34 GMT 1
Amongst all this personal acrimony I think there is a genuine point to be explored here. I, like many others, thought that SC was certainly an upgrade on the previous two 'permanent' managers, mainly because he had a generally good record at League 2 and League 1 level. That was certainly borne out by his initial impact before the pandemic struck the club. SC's illness and subsequent recovery certainly demonstrated that there are more important things in life than football but I think we are still suffering from the effects of this. Our form at the end of last season was very poor and that seems to have generally continued into this season despite our recent improvement at home. Quite rightly there was a clear-out in the summer of players who were mostly probably not capable of taking the club forward in League 1. However, with a few notable exceptions like Leahy (and probably Bowman) the summer recruitment was badly lacking in both quality and quantity. We will probably never know if an appropriate budget was made available to SC but clearly things went badly wrong. So we are left with a threadbare squad in the relegation zone with a raft of games to go until we are able to strengthen (if we can) in January. Now we have started to score a few goals our inability to keep a clean sheet is costing us dear and I would say (as a betting man) we are currently odds on to return to League 2 next year. If things continue like this should we take the extenuating circumstances into account and stick with the manager in the hope of a speedy return? Or should we continue with the managerial merrygoround and change everything again? I wish I knew the answer.
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 21, 2021 0:46:59 GMT 1
This b******s yet again? Jesus Christ this boards going rapidly downhill. the problem is some people just cant handle a bit of harmless debate without ganging up and getting all mouthy and personal did my fetching up this thread hurt anyone ?, it coincides with askey only getting 17 games, today was our 17th game should I post about wrexham every other post or how good January is going to be or what ? maybe if I start a government bashing thread ? maybe I could pretend covid has ended anything as I dont mention the current ****ing manager of town eh ? jeez how come you didnt moan at previous comparisons this board is full of bullying hypocrites blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98947/ricketts-askey-winsblueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101406/cotterill-effectI'd love you to mention the current manager.
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Post by belfastshrew on Nov 21, 2021 0:56:26 GMT 1
Askey out
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 21, 2021 9:35:47 GMT 1
... the grass isn’t always greener. The football and results are worse than the 10 games leading to Askey’s sacking What do you martyrs propose we do now? Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now? I wouldn’t have sacked Askey at that point I wouldn’t sack Cotterill now What’s your point? Keep digging
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 21, 2021 9:36:51 GMT 1
This b******s yet again? Jesus Christ this boards going rapidly downhill. the problem is some people just cant handle a bit of harmless debate without ganging up and getting all mouthy and personal did my fetching up this thread hurt anyone ?, it coincides with askey only getting 17 games, today was our 17th game should I post about wrexham every other post or how good January is going to be or what ? maybe if I start a government bashing thread ? maybe I could pretend covid has ended anything as long as I dont mention the current ****ing manager of town eh ? jeez how come you didnt moan at previous comparisons this board is full of bullying hypocrites blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98947/ricketts-askey-winsblueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101406/cotterill-effectYou can say that again.. the irony
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Post by Pilch on Nov 21, 2021 9:48:58 GMT 1
Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now? I wouldn’t have sacked Askey at that point I wouldn’t sack Cotterill now What’s your point? Keep digging my point is damn obvious isn't it to anyone who actually reads the posts instead of just diving in with a personal attack, I wondered when you'd arrive with yours no I wouldnt have sacked askey either. but some wanted to same ones wanted the last manager out I'm just mocking them now ( just them ), asking them where they are and why are they not here screaming for cotterill to go is that ok ? because in December and January last season it was fine to dig up old posts about ricketts and askey and ask me where I was etc give and take and all that, hope I've finally made my point
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 21, 2021 10:54:53 GMT 1
I wouldn’t have sacked Askey at that point I wouldn’t sack Cotterill now What’s your point? Keep digging my point is damn obvious isn't it to anyone who actually reads the posts instead of just diving in with a personal attack, I wondered when you'd arrive with yours no I wouldnt have sacked askey either. but some wanted to same ones wanted the last manager out I'm just mocking them now ( just them ), asking them where they are and why are they not here screaming for cotterill to go is that ok ? because in December and January last season it was fine to dig up old posts about ricketts and askey and ask me where I was etc give and take and all that, hope I've finally made my point The last manager had two years. Absolutely no comparison.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 21, 2021 11:24:19 GMT 1
It's not the fact that you've brought it up. It's the way you've bought it up. 1)Perpetuating the idea that fans hounded Askey out of the job. He was sacked by the chairman having lost his confidence. To me Askey looked as though he regreted coming here before the season started. I suspect that there was a problem in the working relationship with the chairman. No way, otherwise, would he have been sacked so early. Askey was a poor appointment; his experience was much less than Hurst's. It was a gamble and didn't pay off. I'm glad he was removed when he was. 2) Excludes the possibility that Askey, Ricketts and Cotterill are all mediocre appointments. Which either they are and/or we're a mediocre club. bit late for a adult debate, the messenger got executed by a baying Lynch mob about an hour ago As you admit lower down, you're mocking people who wanted to get rid of Askey and Ricketts.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 21, 2021 11:45:43 GMT 1
bit late for a adult debate, the messenger got executed by a baying Lynch mob about an hour ago As you admit lower down, you're mocking people who wanted to get rid of Askey and Ricketts. mocking was maybe putting it in layman's terms for someone who couldn't see it I was simply questioning the principles of certain fans , nudging them a little to remind them I know what they did last summer ;-) and whats different now its possibly worse ? perhaps they have realised throwing good money after bad isn't always the best idea im glad I just tell things like they are and stick to my principles ;-)
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 21, 2021 11:48:21 GMT 1
As you admit lower down, you're mocking people who wanted to get rid of Askey and Ricketts. mocking was maybe putting it in layman's terms for someone who couldn't see it I was simply questioning the principles of certain fans , nudging them a little to remind them I know what they did last summer ;-) and whats different now its possibly worse ? perhaps they have realised throwing good money after bad isn't always the best idea im glad I just tell things like they are and stick to my principles ;-) In the counterfactual Askey would still be manager and we'd be challenging for promotion. But indulge us - what are your priniples?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 21, 2021 11:50:46 GMT 1
I don't see the Summer recruitment as being bad in terms of quality. It just stopped in July.
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