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Post by Liam on Feb 17, 2019 18:56:58 GMT 1
I was referring to rumour and conjecture, I will freely admit. That's why I said "by all accounts" not "I'm ITK with the players and they all told me they hate Askey". He may well be a very good coach and man manager, but he didn't show it at Shrewsbury. Perhaps he will at Port Vale. The way things are going he's probably going to get his chance to show us all next season. I'd respond to your points about football in this and the other post, but you haven't made any so sadly that won't be possible. Why propel nonsense if you have no evidence of it? Like I said, I know no player who does not like JA.
It frustrates me that the likes of you seem to think it fair game to repeat such untruths without thought. No wonder we are in the predicament we are in.
Ps. I'm not asking you to respond to my posts about 'football'; just to explain your lack of substance in the claptrap you post. You failed miserably to substantiate it. As expected. Most people on here can't evidence the nature of their criticisms.
It frustrates you that people repeat rumours on a football forum? Do you understand what a forum is? Your head is going to explode if and when you discover Twitter. Look, your entire posting history involves either 1) bigging up Askey or 2) getting weirdly irate with people who've criticised him. It would seem you're probably connected to him I some way, so I'm not going to slag your mate off. I've already explained why I don't think he did a good job, in admittedly difficult circumstances. I also said that he should have been given a bit of extra time, that the chanting aimed at him early in the season was unwarranted, and that it won't be fair to blame him if we go down.
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Post by horse01 on Feb 17, 2019 18:57:39 GMT 1
And where is your evidence to the contrary....? Funnily enough, I've been to Sundorne under both and have witnessed. Beautifully, I didn't make the falsehood and didn't need to justify my statement. I'm asking where his evidence was. If we're going to castigate someone, we need at least to be able to substantiate such a claim. Evidently, there is nothing to support it other than idiotic rumours without substance. And yours is just hearsay. ‘I’ve been to Sundorne under both and have witnessed’ is not evidence really is it? How are we to know that is true? If you had recorded or written statements from players to the contrary, that would be evidence. Not just hearsay.
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Post by mattmw on Feb 17, 2019 19:02:20 GMT 1
Name one player that didn't take to him. I call you out. You're talking nonsense. I know nobody that doesn't like him that has played for him. One of his main strengths are that he is an outstanding man manager.
I guess that means the rest of your post is garbage too. And probably every post you've ever made. Hopefully, something you might eventually hit on.
If rumours are to be believed Whalley and the players from last season had massive issues with training sessions compared to those under Hurst. Heard similar from a few different people that this was the case, with players feeling the training wasn't really of sufficient quality for league 1, especially fitness wise. Clearly not first hand evidence but the fact so many of the team looked to be huffing and puffing in the last third of games was fairly clear to see, and continues to be something we seem to struggle with. We're certainly not coming strong in the last 10 minutes of games as we did last year Other suggestion I'd heard on the grapevine was that research into the opposition tactics, set plays and styles of play was also lacking
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Post by jimmyrobbo on Feb 17, 2019 19:14:35 GMT 1
Why propel nonsense if you have no evidence of it? Like I said, I know no player who does not like JA.
It frustrates me that the likes of you seem to think it fair game to repeat such untruths without thought. No wonder we are in the predicament we are in.
Ps. I'm not asking you to respond to my posts about 'football'; just to explain your lack of substance in the claptrap you post. You failed miserably to substantiate it. As expected. Most people on here can't evidence the nature of their criticisms.
It frustrates you that people repeat rumours on a football forum? Do you understand what a forum is? Your head is going to explode if and when you discover Twitter. Look, your entire posting history involves either 1) bigging up Askey or 2) getting weirdly irate with people who've criticised him. It would seem you're probably connected to him I some way, so I'm not going to slag your mate off. I've already explained why I don't think he did a good job, in admittedly difficult circumstances. I also said that he should have been given a bit of extra time, that the chanting aimed at him early in the season was unwarranted, and that it won't be fair to blame him if we go down. If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence.
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Post by kuffdam72 on Feb 17, 2019 19:31:48 GMT 1
for those of us that hounded Askey out please join me in hounding Ricketts out. One way ticket to the basement, the two in the big chair need to hold their hands up on the last two appointments. Ricketts out ASAP
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Post by mattmw on Feb 17, 2019 19:45:48 GMT 1
for those of us that hounded Askey out please join me in hounding Ricketts out. One way ticket to the basement, the two in the big chair need to hold their hands up on the last two appointments. Ricketts out ASAP Only trouble with that approach - and its not a bad one - is it still leaves us trusting the senior staff at the club to appoint someone half decent. On their recent track record I would imagine sooty or Mr Blobby would be be in the running to get the job I'm fast thinking my best approach is to hound myself out of going to matches
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Feb 17, 2019 19:47:39 GMT 1
I would like to see how many posters who were looking to get JA replaced will hold their hands up and say they may have been a little premature (premature being the operative word for many of them) in their efforts. But as usual the goldfish syndrome will kick in for many, and I for one am not sad enough to trawl through the posts and pick them out, you know who you are. No doubt they will be at the forefront of the lynch party for the current manager, until that one goes pear shaped and they will slope off to the back. I'll get my coat Dave.
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Post by haughmond on Feb 17, 2019 20:11:06 GMT 1
for those of us that hounded Askey out please join me in hounding Ricketts out. One way ticket to the basement, the two in the big chair need to hold their hands up on the last two appointments. Ricketts out ASAP Exactly. It’s not a case of , we got rid of Askey too soon. It’s more a case of we are holding onto Ricketts too long. Both are bloody poor managers, so let’s get the double up and get rid of Ricketts ASAP, as you say. At the moment, we are certs for relegation.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 17, 2019 20:17:39 GMT 1
I would like to see how many posters who were looking to get JA replaced will hold their hands up and say they may have been a little premature (premature being the operative word for many of them) in their efforts. But as usual the goldfish syndrome will kick in for many, and I for one am not sad enough to trawl through the posts and pick them out, you know who you are. No doubt they will be at the forefront of the lynch party for the current manager, until that one goes pear shaped and they will slope off to the back. I'll get my coat Dave. whilst i felt Askey was harshly treated and inherited a poisoned chalice. i will put my hand up i decided that Askey was not working when i felt he lost the dressing room,when it seemed that players just did not try. we have a different issue with Ricketts he is out of his depth ,his main tactic is route one but then why would he not look this way he had virtually no experience as a manager before he was appointed and that is the fault of the club for appointing him.( just for the record i did not wont Ricketts due to his lack of experience and i said when he was appointed he needed an experienced assistant )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:21:39 GMT 1
Like SR - Askey doesn't really strike me as the sort of person to be upset about being called an idiot. Fair enough. It strikes me that you don't mind people thinking you are an idiot either, judging by your endless drivel. Nice Assume you left the ground yesterday feeling entertained and confident of a "successful" end to the season. And for that matter the majority of Askey's time here...he's certainly made another smashing start at Vale. To pretend this season has been anything other than a disaster is foolish.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Feb 17, 2019 20:47:55 GMT 1
It frustrates you that people repeat rumours on a football forum? Do you understand what a forum is? Your head is going to explode if and when you discover Twitter. Look, your entire posting history involves either 1) bigging up Askey or 2) getting weirdly irate with people who've criticised him. It would seem you're probably connected to him I some way, so I'm not going to slag your mate off. I've already explained why I don't think he did a good job, in admittedly difficult circumstances. I also said that he should have been given a bit of extra time, that the chanting aimed at him early in the season was unwarranted, and that it won't be fair to blame him if we go down. If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence. I saw on Twitter back in August that Askey lent a tenner (ten pound note) to young Ryan Sears, only to insist Ryan repaid the debt at a 24.9% rate of interest rather than the 10% rate they had shaken on. Is that true or is it just internet rumours?
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 17, 2019 21:47:42 GMT 1
John Askeys new club Port Vale were beaten at home on Saturday and if that form continues the fans wont be happy. The upside for the club and fans is that he is only on a contract until the end of the season so it will cost them nothing to change. If on the other hand he does do well between now and the end of the season he will have proved himself and earned a new contract. A win win situation for all concerned and very sensible. I have said it before. If a manager really wants to work at a particular club he should be willing to take on the job on a short term contract to prove himself. Both Dean Keates and Sam Ricketts did ok at non league Wrexham. If they really wanted to manage at a higher level they should have been willing to accept short term contracts to prove they could hack it. Having said that why should they when clubs like Walsall and Shrewsbury just throw long term contracts at them from the outset. Well done to Port Vale and to JA for going with it. Walsall and Shrewsbury will probably soon have to pay the price.
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Post by Liam on Feb 17, 2019 22:32:16 GMT 1
It frustrates you that people repeat rumours on a football forum? Do you understand what a forum is? Your head is going to explode if and when you discover Twitter. Look, your entire posting history involves either 1) bigging up Askey or 2) getting weirdly irate with people who've criticised him. It would seem you're probably connected to him I some way, so I'm not going to slag your mate off. I've already explained why I don't think he did a good job, in admittedly difficult circumstances. I also said that he should have been given a bit of extra time, that the chanting aimed at him early in the season was unwarranted, and that it won't be fair to blame him if we go down. If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence. If I look at your history I see you're an unusually angey bloke who's claiming to have been connected to the club since last August - the latter sounds an awful lot like an unsubstantiated rumour, btw. The fact that you say it doesn't make it "evidence". How is mentioning in passing a widely believed rumour "an unpleasant statement critical of professionalism"? If you doubt that that it's a widely believed rumour then read this thread - it's already been repeated several times by people other than me. Nobody has criticised Askey's professionalism here. Even if we accept that rumour as true it doesn't reflect on his professionalism, and nobody is saying that it does.
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Post by Liam on Feb 17, 2019 23:02:15 GMT 1
If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence. I saw on Twitter back in August that Askey lent a tenner (ten pound note) to young Ryan Sears, only to insist Ryan repaid the debt at a 24.9% rate of interest rather than the 10% rate they had shaken on. Is that true or is it just internet rumours? Did young Sears tell you that personally? Because if no-one you know says that that *didn't* happen, then it's definitely evidence, and anyone who claims otherwise is literally questioning Micky Mellon's paternity.
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Post by jimmyrobbo on Feb 17, 2019 23:37:06 GMT 1
If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence. If I look at your history I see you're an unusually angey bloke who's claiming to have been connected to the club since last August - the latter sounds an awful lot like an unsubstantiated rumour, btw. The fact that you say it doesn't make it "evidence". How is mentioning in passing a widely believed rumour "an unpleasant statement critical of professionalism"? If you doubt that that it's a widely believed rumour then read this thread - it's already been repeated several times by people other than me. Nobody has criticised Askey's professionalism here. Even if we accept that rumour as true it doesn't reflect on his professionalism, and nobody is saying that it does. You haven't read my posts accurately then.
Angry? Only with people propagating half-truths and misunderstandings without using an adult brain. We are in a perilous situation league-wise and it was entirely preventable. It needed some calm heads who understood what an enormous task it was to replace 7 or so of the better players from last season.
Criticise where appropriate but have some sense when just throwing out silly statements about how different training was. It can so easily be taken to pieces by anyone who has been involved in any level of organised football.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Feb 17, 2019 23:41:19 GMT 1
If you look at my history you'll see that I am connected to more than just JA. I was around quite a bit of PH's time but certainly less so during SR but feel that he deserves time and patience for whatever he plans to do. My disdain is with clowns portraying people inaccurately; with unjustly criticizing people. Certainly JA came under idiotic fire about many issues. Mostly from people who know nothing about football.
I do not defend anyone against fair criticism. We all make mistakes. I have witnessed idiots inside and outside the stadium, on here too who regurgitate nonsense. That is not on. Back up any unpleasant statements critical of professionalism with evidence. If I look at your history I see you're an unusually angey bloke who's claiming to have been connected to the club since last August - the latter sounds an awful lot like an unsubstantiated rumour, btw. The fact that you say it doesn't make it "evidence". How is mentioning in passing a widely believed rumour "an unpleasant statement critical of professionalism"? If you doubt that that it's a widely believed rumour then read this thread - it's already been repeated several times by people other than me. Nobody has criticised Askey's professionalism here. Even if we accept that rumour as true it doesn't reflect on his professionalism, and nobody is saying that it does. Sorry to disappoint you and others but but JA was vilified from pillar to post on here and nothing was left to question I am afraid, including his proffesionalism, parentage, shoe size, waving technique etc etc, short memories, sounds like a name of a song doesn't it, one that keeps repeating.
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Post by Liam on Feb 17, 2019 23:41:44 GMT 1
If I look at your history I see you're an unusually angey bloke who's claiming to have been connected to the club since last August - the latter sounds an awful lot like an unsubstantiated rumour, btw. The fact that you say it doesn't make it "evidence". How is mentioning in passing a widely believed rumour "an unpleasant statement critical of professionalism"? If you doubt that that it's a widely believed rumour then read this thread - it's already been repeated several times by people other than me. Nobody has criticised Askey's professionalism here. Even if we accept that rumour as true it doesn't reflect on his professionalism, and nobody is saying that it does. You haven't read my posts accurately then.
Angry? Only with people propagating half-truths and misunderstandings without using an adult brain. We are in a perilous situation league-wise and it was entirely preventable. It needed some calm heads who understood what an enormous task it was to replace 7 or so of the better players from last season.
Criticise where appropriate but have some sense when just throwing out silly statements about how different training was. It can so easily be taken to pieces by anyone who has been involved in any level of organised football.
Go on then - show me my "silly statement about how different training was". Once you've failed to find that, try and reflect on the difference between "what I want Askey's critics to have said" and "what they actually said".
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Post by quinnster on Feb 18, 2019 22:32:49 GMT 1
What a freak couple years this club has had. So un Shrewsbury like...naturally we are a cosy safe club, yet we seen the crazy season under Hurst, 2 Wembley's and then his walk away, then the next chapter with Askey . He applied to us after decades at Macc. I wonder why. He convinced above other Candidates. RW went default appointed the lower league guy, yet as early as Blackpool game the fans were turning. Many could see through him ....now, although quieter, it could happen under SR. Real chance of going down. I think SR interviewed well...he sounds good on interviews, much more than Askey, so I mentioned before it was his confidence etc that got him the job, plus his lower league CV. Default Shrews. Look out for Gavin Cowan . I kid you not ..
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Post by shrewsace on Feb 18, 2019 22:55:56 GMT 1
If I look at your history I see you're an unusually angey bloke who's claiming to have been connected to the club since last August - the latter sounds an awful lot like an unsubstantiated rumour, btw. The fact that you say it doesn't make it "evidence". How is mentioning in passing a widely believed rumour "an unpleasant statement critical of professionalism"? If you doubt that that it's a widely believed rumour then read this thread - it's already been repeated several times by people other than me. Nobody has criticised Askey's professionalism here. Even if we accept that rumour as true it doesn't reflect on his professionalism, and nobody is saying that it does. You haven't read my posts accurately then.
Angry? Only with people propagating half-truths and misunderstandings without using an adult brain. We are in a perilous situation league-wise and it was entirely preventable. It needed some calm heads who understood what an enormous task it was to replace 7 or so of the better players from last season.
Criticise where appropriate but have some sense when just throwing out silly statements about how different training was. It can so easily be taken to pieces by anyone who has been involved in any level of organised football.
Wasn't it Danny Coyne who implied training under Askey had not perhaps been all it should have been? www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2018/11/16/danny-coyne-we-have-raised-standards-at-shrewsbury-town/www.shropshirestar.com/sport/2018/11/16/shrewsbury-v-rochdale-preview-ramsays-sessions-have-created-a-buzz/btw, why not just say who you are if you're speaking from a position of superior footballing knowledge?
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 18, 2019 23:21:56 GMT 1
I thought it was widely known that two players took the rest back out for an additional training session as they felt Askey's that had just taken place was inferior?
You think all the "training" word drops by Coyne, Ramsey & the players were just a coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 23:45:26 GMT 1
for those of us that hounded Askey out please join me in hounding Ricketts out. One way ticket to the basement, the two in the big chair need to hold their hands up on the last two appointments. Ricketts out ASAP Exactly. It’s not a case of , we got rid of Askey too soon. It’s more a case of we are holding onto Ricketts too long. Both are bloody poor managers, so let’s get the double up and get rid of Ricketts ASAP, as you say. At the moment, we are certs for relegation. Both right in my view. But, do you really trust the two in the big chairs not to make the same mistake yet again . It really beggars belief that they appointed an untried Manager to take over from Askey and expect success . As usual on the bloody cheap yet again . It’s time for a change no doubt and not just the manager .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 23:56:45 GMT 1
Exactly. It’s not a case of , we got rid of Askey too soon. It’s more a case of we are holding onto Ricketts too long. Both are bloody poor managers, so let’s get the double up and get rid of Ricketts ASAP, as you say. At the moment, we are certs for relegation. Both right in my view. But, do you really trust the two in the big chairs not to make the same mistake yet again . It really beggars belief that they appointed an untried Manager to take over from Askey and expect success . As usual on the bloody cheap yet again . It’s time for a change no doubt and not just the manager . Was very odd to appoint such an unexperienced manager...even madder that we have not appointed a more experienced assistant. Ramsey has more coaching experience that SR and is still in his 20's...the sensible option would have been to offer Danny and/or Eric the job until the end of the season. The problem is I can't see us making another change and unless we go with the in-house option mentioned above we could well botch the appointment again...not many decent realistic managers knocking around now. Can't see the club paying more compo and any manager doing well now would likely stay in post to get a promotion on the CV. Only 3 realistic candidates about, in the unlikely scenario of us sacking SR....Steve Evans (NOPE), Paul Hurst (NON-STARTER) and Ramsey/Coyne.
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Post by wakemanender on Feb 19, 2019 7:39:24 GMT 1
We all know what hindsight is and we should have stuck with the Coyne/Ramsey management til the end of the season and then reviewed the situation. There wasn't a stand out candidate when JA left and there still isn't. All was going well and we all know the saying if it aint broke don't fix it. All very easy for us on this board to make our comments and give our views not knowing what is going on behind the scenes. If Brian Caldwell ever left for a better job and consented to come back and do an honest question and answer session on his time at the club I bet he would leave many of us with egg on our faces. I speak from some experience as many years ago in company with many others I was very critical of Jake King in a letter to the Shropshire Star. He traced me and invited me to the Gay Meadow for an honest one to one. I promised what he told me would go no further but I really did get the message that none of us really know what goes on behind the scenes at a football club. Every player has a different personality and work ethic and has to be dealt with taking that into account. They all have home lives and domestic problems the same as the rest of us. The Manager has all this to deal with as well as the football matters. When a prospective manager is interviewed the Chairman and CEO would have to access the candidate for his social skills as well as anything else which makes you wonder how people like Graham Westley and Steve Evans ever got jobs in management. I thought MM did really well in helping Matt Tootle through his problems when many of us were joking about his apparent disappearance. We will all continue to moan as it what makes a good forum but the secret is not to take it too seriously because there are things going on that we don't know about.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 19, 2019 9:21:40 GMT 1
We all know what hindsight is and we should have stuck with the Coyne/Ramsey management til the end of the season and then reviewed the situation. There wasn't a stand out candidate when JA left and there still isn't. All was going well and we all know the saying if it aint broke don't fix it. All very easy for us on this board to make our comments and give our views not knowing what is going on behind the scenes. If Brian Caldwell ever left for a better job and consented to come back and do an honest question and answer session on his time at the club I bet he would leave many of us with egg on our faces. I speak from some experience as many years ago in company with many others I was very critical of Jake King in a letter to the Shropshire Star. He traced me and invited me to the Gay Meadow for an honest one to one. I promised what he told me would go no further but I really did get the message that none of us really know what goes on behind the scenes at a football club. Every player has a different personality and work ethic and has to be dealt with taking that into account. They all have home lives and domestic problems the same as the rest of us. The Manager has all this to deal with as well as the football matters. When a prospective manager is interviewed the Chairman and CEO would have to access the candidate for his social skills as well as anything else which makes you wonder how people like Graham Westley and Steve Evans ever got jobs in management. I thought MM did really well in helping Matt Tootle through his problems when many of us were joking about his apparent disappearance. We will all continue to moan as it what makes a good forum but the secret is not to take it too seriously because there are things going on that we don't know about. Excellent post. There are too many people who forget that footballers, managers and everyone else connected with the game are human beings with personal lives and problems just like the rest of us. I’ve tried over the years to point this out but you have made a much better job of it.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 19, 2019 9:47:52 GMT 1
We all know what hindsight is and we should have stuck with the Coyne/Ramsey management til the end of the season and then reviewed the situation. There wasn't a stand out candidate when JA left and there still isn't. All was going well and we all know the saying if it aint broke don't fix it. All very easy for us on this board to make our comments and give our views not knowing what is going on behind the scenes. If Brian Caldwell ever left for a better job and consented to come back and do an honest question and answer session on his time at the club I bet he would leave many of us with egg on our faces. I speak from some experience as many years ago in company with many others I was very critical of Jake King in a letter to the Shropshire Star. He traced me and invited me to the Gay Meadow for an honest one to one. I promised what he told me would go no further but I really did get the message that none of us really know what goes on behind the scenes at a football club. Every player has a different personality and work ethic and has to be dealt with taking that into account. They all have home lives and domestic problems the same as the rest of us. The Manager has all this to deal with as well as the football matters. When a prospective manager is interviewed the Chairman and CEO would have to access the candidate for his social skills as well as anything else which makes you wonder how people like Graham Westley and Steve Evans ever got jobs in management. I thought MM did really well in helping Matt Tootle through his problems when many of us were joking about his apparent disappearance. We will all continue to moan as it what makes a good forum but the secret is not to take it too seriously because there are things going on that we don't know about. all very true
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Post by accordingtome on Feb 19, 2019 14:19:50 GMT 1
for those of us that hounded Askey out please join me in hounding Ricketts out. One way ticket to the basement, the two in the big chair need to hold their hands up on the last two appointments. Ricketts out ASAP Only trouble with that approach - and its not a bad one - is it still leaves us trusting the senior staff at the club to appoint someone half decent. On their recent track record I would imagine sooty or Mr Blobby would be be in the running to get the job I'm fast thinking my best approach is to hound myself out of going to matches leave Steve Evans out of this
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 19, 2019 14:42:22 GMT 1
If rumours are to be believed Whalley and the players from last season had massive issues with training sessions compared to those under Hurst. Which players? Hardly any of them trained under both. Name them. I have been present under both and there hasn't been much to criticize other than PR cliches.
Well I named one but if you want the two I’m aware of - Sadler & Whalley. From what I’ve heard, and I’m aware it’s rumour but I’m actually open to believing them, was that both of them were staying later for cardio sessions with some of the team when Askey and co had gone home because the training was done for the day. Alarm bells start ringing. Regardless of what happened to Askey, the club made the decision because he clearly hadn’t fitted in on lots of levels. It was just the wrong appointment. It’s a pity the club have seemingly made a second picking another manager with no league experience.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 19:19:48 GMT 1
... the grass isn’t always greener. The football and results are worse than the 10 games leading to Askey’s sacking What do you martyrs propose we do now? Askey Played 17 Scored 16 Agg 20 Points 15 currently played 17 scored 16 agg 24 points 18 last 17 games of last season P 17 S 17 A 23 Pts 16 What do you martyrs propose we do now?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 20, 2021 20:19:24 GMT 1
Cotterill has more idea about how to get us out of this situation than Askey and Ricketts combined.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2021 20:29:44 GMT 1
Cotterill has more idea about how to get us out of this situation than Askey and Ricketts combined. Cotterlll isn't going to shag you
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