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Post by shrewder on Aug 15, 2022 11:50:40 GMT 1
Three leagues games in, my first impression is that we're on a good mini run which might last until the end of August. After that performances should drop significantly, home form will not be good enough, bottom two, injuries, suspensions, late goals, poor referring Clearly need a spelling lesson as you never congratulate the team when they win. Simple phrase for you to use. "Well done". Not difficult to remember is it!!! |
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 15, 2022 13:18:09 GMT 1
After that performances should drop significantly Based on what? Are you a star sign/number counter like Roland? |
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Post by bexplorer on Sept 26, 2022 11:59:58 GMT 1
Its like watching PH Town winning games not playing well, but with performances like that results will plummet, it could be around the corner. Overtrained players? No, its just a new excuse i think that is the way they are going to keep playing under SC. Almost two years on an experienced manager that fans wanted has not improved us at all. See no signs of imminent improvement, hopefully fans will soon start discussing the reasons why managers cant succeed at Town as its the fifth season that we play poor football
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 26, 2022 12:01:44 GMT 1
Its like watching PH Town winning games not playing well, but with performances like that results will plummet, it could be around the corner. Overtrained players? No, its just a new excuse i think that is the way they are going to keep playing under SC. Almost two years on an experienced manager that fans wanted has not improved us at all. See no signs of imminent improvement, hopefully fans will soon start discussing the reasons why managers cant succeed at Town as its the fifth season that we play poor football We're 9th, not bottom? All isn't rosey, but it's absolute b******s that we haven't improved at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 13:32:08 GMT 1
Its like watching PH Town winning games not playing well, I assume you mean Paul Hurst there? Can we put an end to this myth, the football we are seeing under SC is nothing like the football we saw under PH. As for the rest of the post, my view is that there is very little love for Cotterill amongst the fanbase and the goodwill from keeping us up/his battle with covid has long gone. Instead there is a growing frustration with the football on display but people are not turning on him because the results/ league position don't warrant that. However I'm pretty sure that if we go on a little run of results then fans will turn, I can sense quite a few that are on the edge because of the perfomances. But of course we will hopefully never get to that position because we do improve and are succesful |
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Post by bexplorer on Nov 20, 2022 11:29:04 GMT 1
Three leagues games in, my first impression is that we're on a good mini run which might last until the end of August. After that performances should drop significantly, home form will not be good enough, bottom two, injuries, suspensions, late goals, poor referring Try to enjoy the run. Cheer up, the significant performance drop might never happen. We might even see this year's "ghost" players, O'Brien and Bennett. Success in August might feed success in September. From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2022 11:39:39 GMT 1
Try to enjoy the run. Cheer up, the significant performance drop might never happen. We might even see this year's "ghost" players, O'Brien and Bennett. Success in August might feed success in September. From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes pompeys last 6 homes league games is making our point there look rather average  Plymouth draw Fleetwood draw Oxford draw Shrewsbury draw Wimbledon draw derby draw |
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 20, 2022 11:58:55 GMT 1
Try to enjoy the run. Cheer up, the significant performance drop might never happen. We might even see this year's "ghost" players, O'Brien and Bennett. Success in August might feed success in September. From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes What do you think we can learn from Telford and Wolves? |
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Post by belfastshrew on Nov 20, 2022 12:20:46 GMT 1
Poor form of late. But we are closer to playoffs than relegation still. Cotterill is doing fine considering.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2022 12:25:51 GMT 1
Poor form of late. But we are closer to playoffs than relegation still. Cotterill is doing fine considering. great spin that, except if certain sides win their games in hand it makes us 11 points from the play offs and 6 from relegation |
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Post by belfastshrew on Nov 20, 2022 12:38:26 GMT 1
If. If they dont then nothing changes. I wouldn't worry about other results just yet, it's a bit early. But yes, a positive spin on things is closer to playoffs than relegation.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2022 12:49:04 GMT 1
If. If they dont then nothing changes. I wouldn't worry about other results just yet, it's a bit early. But yes, a positive spin on things is closer to playoffs than relegation. with your positivity you might want to pop a little bet on town to make play offs 20/1relegation 15/2 |
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Post by MartinB on Nov 20, 2022 14:50:42 GMT 1
If. If they dont then nothing changes. I wouldn't worry about other results just yet, it's a bit early. But yes, a positive spin on things is closer to playoffs than relegation. 28 points required from remaining 27 games. If we can't manage that then deserve to go down |
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 20, 2022 16:11:16 GMT 1
If. If they dont then nothing changes. I wouldn't worry about other results just yet, it's a bit early. But yes, a positive spin on things is closer to playoffs than relegation. 28 points required from remaining 27 games. If we can't manage that then deserve to go down Based on the last 6 game we do 🤔 |
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Post by MartinB on Nov 20, 2022 19:46:46 GMT 1
28 points required from remaining 27 games. If we can't manage that then deserve to go down Based on the last 6 game we do 🤔 Been playing top of the table sides which we weren't up to that point bar Ipswich |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Nov 20, 2022 22:11:57 GMT 1
Poor form of late. But we are closer to playoffs than relegation still. Cotterill is doing fine considering. great spin that, except if certain sides win their games in hand it makes us 11 points from the play offs and 6 from relegation Better to have points on the board people always say! |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2022 22:25:08 GMT 1
great spin that, except if certain sides win their games in hand it makes us 11 points from the play offs and 6 from relegation Better to have points on the board people always say! I dont think we will go down for a minute, this season is strange as there is quite a collection of sides not good enough for league 1 in it, thats not always the case, some might say we've had some bad luck but we've had a lot of good luck too, I'd say we've broken even on luck, Martin is basing his opinion on 50 points, I think like last season, 40ish will be fine again, we'll probably end bang on 50 again in 17th, lets hope not as it plays right into my hands ;-) |
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Post by Worthingshrew on Nov 21, 2022 12:11:39 GMT 1
I agree with you Pilch, think 40ish will be enough like last season. Bottom 4 already 6 points adrift though loads of time to change.
The way the fixtures have fallen for us, was always likely to have good and bad runs.
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Post by shrewder on Dec 10, 2022 17:49:27 GMT 1
Try to enjoy the run. Cheer up, the significant performance drop might never happen. We might even see this year's "ghost" players, O'Brien and Bennett. Success in August might feed success in September. From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes About time you gave a little praise for once or are you waiting for a few poor results? |
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Post by Pilch on Dec 10, 2022 17:57:30 GMT 1
From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes About time you gave a little praise for once or are you waiting for a few poor results? did you wait for good results to post that ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 15:21:44 GMT 1
From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Tough fixtures? We lost at home against Charlton, drew with Oxford, are they going to fight for promotion too? Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes About time you gave a little praise for once or are you waiting for a few poor results? Hear hear. |
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Post by bexplorer on Jan 6, 2023 10:08:05 GMT 1
From a joint sixth down to 16th in less than a month. Unfortunately these days for many supporting the club means supporting the manager accepting all the excuses, no critical analysis, no questioning. It's a dangerous game, there's no faith in the board's ability to take the right decision, that's the way clubs get relegated, a couple of poor appointments and then it's too late. Telford and Wolves are a bit ahead of us in that and we are in a good position to learn from them and try to avoid their mistakes What do you think we can learn from Telford and Wolves? We could learn how to turn things around when you are in relegation zone, what things would help us to get back to winning ways. They still have time, but if we end up in a similar situation towards the end of the season we will need to get only right decisions. |
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Post by bexplorer on Feb 16, 2023 11:45:19 GMT 1
The only thing that recent results and our position in the table have shown us is that we've had everything not only to be in the play-offs, but also get automatic promotion. All the talks about budget, small size of the club are just excuses experienced managers make up to defend from criticism.
We've been two points off the 6th placed Barnsley and that playing inconsistent football, struggling to score against the poorest teams in league. Imagine we have a bigger squad,less injuries, flexible and ambitious manager, sell a few players every season and invest properly.
Our false position is down to the fact that this season we are better against bottom 7,8 and that's where the majority of the wins come from. From now on we are going to play teams around us and no doubt we'll drop more points than we get.
I think there are two scenarios how the season will end, first we finish on 48,49 points which is a place or two above relegation zone and second we have 48 points before the last game of season and win it to stay up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 12:43:00 GMT 1
The only thing that recent results and our position in the table have shown us is that we've had everything not only to be in the play-offs, but also get automatic promotion. All the talks about budget, small size of the club are just excuses experienced managers make up to defend from criticism. We've been two points off the 6th placed Barnsley and that playing inconsistent football, struggling to score against the poorest teams in league. Imagine we have a bigger squad,less injuries, flexible and ambitious manager, sell a few players every season and invest properly. Our false position is down to the fact that this season we are better against bottom 7,8 and that's where the majority of the wins come from. From now on we are going to play teams around us and no doubt we'll drop more points than we get. I think there are two scenarios how the season will end, first we finish on 48,49 points which is a place or two above relegation zone and second we have 48 points before the last game of season and win it to stay up. We are on a great run at the moment though, you must agree? Genuine question, are you actually a Town supporter? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 13:07:15 GMT 1
think there are two scenarios how the season will end, first we finish on 48,49 points which is a place or two above relegation zone and second we have 48 points before the last game of season and win it to stay up.
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Oi numpty. You've just proved you're not a Salop supporter with the above comment.
WE ALREADY HAVE 48 POINTS, so we're not going to get anymore?
Do us all a favour and go and play in a field out of harm's way
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Post by blamber on Feb 16, 2023 13:58:54 GMT 1
The only thing that recent results and our position in the table have shown us is that we've had everything not only to be in the play-offs, but also get automatic promotion. All the talks about budget, small size of the club are just excuses experienced managers make up to defend from criticism. We've been two points off the 6th placed Barnsley and that playing inconsistent football, struggling to score against the poorest teams in league. Imagine we have a bigger squad,less injuries, flexible and ambitious manager, sell a few players every season and invest properly. Our false position is down to the fact that this season we are better against bottom 7,8 and that's where the majority of the wins come from. From now on we are going to play teams around us and no doubt we'll drop more points than we get. I think there are two scenarios how the season will end, first we finish on 48,49 points which is a place or two above relegation zone and second we have 48 points before the last game of season and win it to stay up. Imagine if we had a bigger squad? We've tried that before. Do you mean a bigger squad that has more quality like Pennington, Dunkley, Winchester, Leahy and Phillips? With average crowds being around 6k I don't think that budget is an unreasonable 'excuse'. If we even need an excuse as we sit 20 points clear of the drop zone. So smaller squad, better quality and more versatility is the way to go. And surely SC is a flexible manager - the players he has and the way he uses them is hugely flexible. So not sure why you think he lacks imagination. Sure, we've got some tough games to come - when the fixtures were released EVERYONE knew that we had to get points in the bag before the run in. And we have. By your reckoning, we beat teams at the bottom so that means we should get at least six more (Accy and Morecambe). So, your two likely scenarios are contradictory and complete nonsense. And as we sit on a very comfortable points total, there is the huge interest factor of how this team - despite its injuries - will perform against the bigger teams with budgets that dwarf ours. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 14:00:49 GMT 1
Why are people treating it as a serious post? It’s either a wind-up, or they’re so far gone that reasoned debate us futile and the best thing to do is either ignore or laugh at them.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 16, 2023 14:07:41 GMT 1
Why are people treating it as a serious post? It’s either a wind-up, or they’re so far gone that reasoned debate us futile and the best thing to do is either ignore or laugh at them. you mean ostracise and bully them ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 14:19:20 GMT 1
Why are people treating it as a serious post? It’s either a wind-up, or they’re so far gone that reasoned debate us futile and the best thing to do is either ignore or laugh at them. you mean ostracise and bully them ? No I mean laugh at the utterly ridiculous notion that we might end the season with 48 points. |
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 16, 2023 14:23:19 GMT 1
Why are people treating it as a serious post? It’s either a wind-up, or they’re so far gone that reasoned debate us futile and the best thing to do is either ignore or laugh at them. you mean ostracise and bully them ? Suggesting we'll end the season with the same points we have now or 1 more points when we have 15 games left deserves a hefty amount of abuse and ridicule to be fair. |
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