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Post by Pilch on Aug 30, 2024 19:35:31 GMT 1
heres a recap of today
nothing actually planned apart from a quiet day
player out of favour gone out of loan
new player in
seems to me like its any excuse for some to moan even if normal things are happening
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Post by vladimir on Aug 30, 2024 19:42:24 GMT 1
I presume this now helps us to play 5 at the back if we want to. suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3.
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 30, 2024 19:43:45 GMT 1
In frankly astonishing turn of events I agree with Pilch.
The bloke is a new signing who wasn’t getting many minutes, it hardly bodes well for him and ends up just making up the numbers, with no real intention to use him.
Yeah of course that makes the signing of him in the first place look questionable but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have acted now. What good would it have done to keep a player here not fancied, and probably one that doesn’t want to stay in this role anyway?
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 30, 2024 19:44:38 GMT 1
I presume this now helps us to play 5 at the back if we want to. suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3. What is it about Luca Hoole’s performances so far that lead to him being considered capable of being a centre back? He’d be eaten alive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 19:45:17 GMT 1
one out, one and a bit in...with Gilliead being what once was described as a utility player.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 30, 2024 19:51:40 GMT 1
Bradford fans on X seem absolutely gutted which is surely a good sign.
I remembered him as a weak little winger that didn’t really leave an impression, but they seem to think of him as a passionate, heart-on-sleeve, hard working utility player. Sounds good to me.
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Post by vladimir on Aug 30, 2024 19:53:10 GMT 1
suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3. What is it about Luca Hoole’s performances so far that lead to him being considered capable of being a centre back? He’d be eaten alive. "he could" not saying he should.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 30, 2024 19:57:47 GMT 1
I presume this now helps us to play 5 at the back if we want to. suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3. I think it would better in he could drop onto the bench.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 30, 2024 20:06:56 GMT 1
Birmingham trying to sign Jay Stansfield from Fulham...fee....wait for it....£9m We couldn't afford a can of baked beans I've seen £10m!! Don't really think town belong in this League anymore... Looks like this is a goer. £10m odd in league one. A couple of years ago £1m would have seemed as an absolute stand out fee, now it's 10 x that. Guess that's the difference at top v bottom. Some clubs barely afford anything, the clubs at top lavish spending to go up. Just highlights further how town are right at the bottom of the league financially
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 30, 2024 20:07:43 GMT 1
suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3. I think it would better in he could drop onto the bench. He can have a free week against Wrexham 👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:14:55 GMT 1
suspect this is a big reason. Hoole could drop into the 3. What is it about Luca Hoole’s performances so far that lead to him being considered capable of being a centre back? He’d be eaten alive. Rovers fans said that Joey Barton tried him in a back 3 and it didn't work.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Aug 30, 2024 20:25:02 GMT 1
In frankly astonishing turn of events I agree with Pilch. The bloke is a new signing who wasn’t getting many minutes, it hardly bodes well for him and ends up just making up the numbers, with no real intention to use him. Yeah of course that makes the signing of him in the first place look questionable but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have acted now. What good would it have done to keep a player here not fancied, and probably one that doesn’t want to stay in this role anyway? I don't really get 'Pilch's logic. He seems to be arguing with himself half the time. I thought he was anti Cotterill so made a thing about being pro-Taylor and then he was anti-Hurst but now he's pro-Hurst. Hard to keep up when you only post on here so often But back to the point. Biggins has played in all three league games. We couldn't fill a bench last weekend and even though at the time of writing we have the exact same size squad as we did then, we're in a position where we can offload players because the squad is too big? Whichever way you try and spin it, it's an odd situation. Something has gone on behind the scenes or in Harrison's private life and the club are trying to spin a yarn. Regardless of how you look at it, signing a player on a multi-year deal in June and then making them surplus to requirements in August isn't conducive to a sound transfer policy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:29:52 GMT 1
I don't want to be a panic merchant but its the Biggins departure which has made me realise the mess that things are, many of the good points raised by Gobowenshrew and more.
The squad is small the season is 3 games young so why a departure so soon.
I knew Hurst was being coy when asked about in and outgoings before the window shutting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:37:04 GMT 1
Player hasn’t got off to the best of starts, in a period of time where the whole club is stinking the place out. For me it’s hardly conducive evidence to write him off, and whilst it’s the knee jerk behaviour I’d expect from some of our fans, I’d expect a bit more from the personnel within the club, especially as we haven’t exactly stumbled upon a winning formula yet.
Also despite having a DoF, we seem to be constantly falling into the pattern of signing players Hurst has worked with before, it’s so boring. But good luck to him, naturally I hope it works out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:41:38 GMT 1
Would have preferred it if it was Nsiala or Bloxham on loan but there we are.
Taylor Perry is superior to Biggins.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:46:53 GMT 1
Its a bit like Micky Moore criticism of the previous regime not being able to be fill a bench and then this regime not being able to fill a bench.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Aug 30, 2024 20:47:13 GMT 1
Player hasn’t got off to the best of starts, in a period of time where the whole club is stinking the place out. For me it’s hardly conducive evidence to write him off, and whilst it’s the knee jerk behaviour I’d expect from some of our fans, I’d expect a bit more from the personnel within the club, especially as we haven’t exactly stumbled upon a winning formula yet. Also despite having a DoF, we seem to be constantly falling into the pattern of signing players Hurst has worked with before, it’s so boring. But good luck to him, naturally I hope it works out. Worryingly Biggins was the only deal we did that I thought we might have had to beat off decent competition for. Biggins like Gillead is 28 turning 29 this season and both of them have spent the majority of their careers in League Two. I'm not entirely sure how they fall in line with the clubs supposed transfer policy of signing exciting young players to sell on at a profit. Someone make it make sense.
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Post by southshropblue on Aug 30, 2024 20:49:07 GMT 1
it all seems very odd to me What is the plan? Anyway here is hoping for a good win tomorrow to get the season on track
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 20:51:13 GMT 1
Well those two are not 'Development' players. I assume that could be Savin, Lloyd and Hoole.
Let's face it with the exception of Marquis the signings are either loans or injury plagued.
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Post by johnno on Aug 30, 2024 20:58:52 GMT 1
Anyone know if thats it for tonight?
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 30, 2024 21:06:56 GMT 1
We desperately need another body at right back. Why not take a gamble on a 12-month deal for someone cheap from non-league or even the Welsh prem?
It’s another body for the bench and we could at least give Hoole a rest in the PJ trophy games. What’s our current plan? Play Hoole for literally every minute of every game?
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Post by southshropblue on Aug 30, 2024 21:09:52 GMT 1
We desperately need another body at right back. Why not take a gamble on a 12-month deal for someone cheap from non-league or even the Welsh prem? It’s another body for the bench and we could at least give Hoole a rest in the PJ trophy games. What’s our current plan? Play Hoole for literally every minute of every game? Not sure there is a plan sadly but we will see
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 30, 2024 21:11:53 GMT 1
Yes you can argue that you can give the club credit for acting decisively and not persisting with a player for the sake of it.
But let's not forget that we've signed a player on a 2 year contract and before the end of the transfer window we've sent him out on loan for the season. That's now Mata, Idowu and Harrison who we have signed in the last 12 months and then had to send out on loan because they weren't good enough (and because they are tied to a 2 year+ contract).
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 30, 2024 21:16:40 GMT 1
Yes you can argue that you can give the club credit for acting decisively and not persisting with a player for the sake of it. But let's not forget that we've signed a player on a 2 year contract and before the end of the transfer window we've sent him out on loan for the season. That's now Mata, Idowu and Harrison who we have signed in the last 12 months and then had to send out on loan because they weren't good enough (and because they are tied to a 2 year+ contract). And all our on loan within 6 months of signing. Biggins a lot earlier than that! Yet Pierre in that time was deemed a new contract. The logic is a bit confusing
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Post by northwestman on Aug 30, 2024 21:22:10 GMT 1
Yes you can argue that you can give the club credit for acting decisively and not persisting with a player for the sake of it. But let's not forget that we've signed a player on a 2 year contract and before the end of the transfer window we've sent him out on loan for the season. That's now Mata, Idowu and Harrison who we have signed in the last 12 months and then had to send out on loan because they weren't good enough (and because they are tied to a 2 year+ contract). Not the best of records for MM. And all 3 signed until 2026.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 30, 2024 21:22:57 GMT 1
We desperately need another body at right back. Why not take a gamble on a 12-month deal for someone cheap from non-league or even the Welsh prem? It’s another body for the bench and we could at least give Hoole a rest in the PJ trophy games. What’s our current plan? Play Hoole for literally every minute of every game? Both Feeney's can play RB. We also have Winchester and now Gillead who can do a job there.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 30, 2024 21:36:31 GMT 1
There is no logic to anything at the moment. It’s almost like the offices are like a hen coop containing a lot of athletic headless chickens.
Here’s hoping the chickens don’t come home to roost but that somewhere there’s a golden egg!
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 30, 2024 21:56:37 GMT 1
Salop signing time.
Don’t go to bed yet folks.
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 30, 2024 21:57:39 GMT 1
One more in! Salop signing time on twitter.
Better be a centre back!
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Aug 30, 2024 21:59:44 GMT 1
Ojo
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