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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 3, 2024 20:18:41 GMT 1
Next season could be a real problem for us as the loan market will not be anything like it used to be. Premier league clubs will be far more corsious, considering the points that have recently been deducted. If MK go up and Birmingham go down, then those seven clubs will more than likely occupy the top half of the table 🙄. Of course anything can happen, but I'd be astonishing if from three games onward we even get in the top half never mind make it. Solihull could be going up to League two as well. Loan market seems to have really changed. premier league sides much less willing to loan players out and so that filters down. Town were very much not the only side that struggled to recruit decent loan players. Haven't seen stats but it certainly seemed like there were a lot less loans last season across the EFL that there has been for years |
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Post by vladimir on May 3, 2024 20:25:07 GMT 1
Next season could be a real problem for us as the loan market will not be anything like it used to be. Premier league clubs will be far more corsious, considering the points that have recently been deducted. If MK go up and Birmingham go down, then those seven clubs will more than likely occupy the top half of the table 🙄. Of course anything can happen, but I'd be astonishing if from three games onward we even get in the top half never mind make it. Solihull could be going up to League two as well. Loan market seems to have really changed. premier league sides much less willing to loan players out and so that filters down. Town were very much not the only side that struggled to recruit decent loan players. Haven't seen stats but it certainly seemed like there were a lot less loans last season across the EFL that there has been for years There were more loan players this season than season before (played less minutes per player and less goals mind). There's gems out there, last time Hurst found them (had a decent record of spotting them with Grimsby too). If he can find us a clone of Maghoma for Bolton we will be laughing. I also note the stats this season gone compare with the stats of 17/18 as well in terms of numbers, minutes and goals. |
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Post by chameleon on May 3, 2024 21:38:05 GMT 1
Charlie Ruff at Chelmsford City.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 3, 2024 21:58:16 GMT 1
Solihull could be going up to League two as well. Loan market seems to have really changed. premier league sides much less willing to loan players out and so that filters down. Town were very much not the only side that struggled to recruit decent loan players. Haven't seen stats but it certainly seemed like there were a lot less loans last season across the EFL that there has been for years There were more loan players this season than season before (played less minutes per player and less goals mind). There's gems out there, last time Hurst found them (had a decent record of spotting them with Grimsby too). If he can find us a clone of Maghoma for Bolton we will be laughing. I also note the stats this season gone compare with the stats of 17/18 as well in terms of numbers, minutes and goals. Interesting. Maybe what I remember more then is clubs having players but who were not featuring, just like town really. Got the numbers but not the quality. But yeah definitely still some excellent players out there, maybe just harder to come by and clubs less willing to let them go then they were. Moore and Hurst I'm sure putting in the work over the summer but arent all clubs? |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 7:09:53 GMT 1
Charlie Ruff at Chelmsford City. Wow,now that's the sort of random name that we all love😁 Creative,goalscoring midfielder 24 years of age- 45 appearances, 19 goals this season but has never played above NLS level. The cynic in me says there's a reason why he's never played higher,but the dreamer says imagine if he was a success with us😁 |
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Post by belfastshrew on May 4, 2024 8:18:55 GMT 1
Ruff diamond
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 8:26:09 GMT 1
Very good😁..in fact for 8am on a Saturday morning that's brilliant 😁😁 |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 4, 2024 9:07:31 GMT 1
Charlie Ruff at Chelmsford City. Wow,now that's the sort of random name that we all love😁 Creative,goalscoring midfielder 24 years of age- 45 appearances, 19 goals this season but has never played above NLS level. The cynic in me says there's a reason why he's never played higher,but the dreamer says imagine if he was a success with us😁 Probably similar level to where Udoh came from. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 4, 2024 9:19:40 GMT 1
With the debt we have I can't see us having much of a fund to bring players in, so Hurst has a real challenge on his hands, I have low expectations about the caliber of players we can bring in.
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Post by davycrockett on May 4, 2024 9:27:27 GMT 1
With the debt we have I can't see us having much of a fund to bring players in, so Hurst has a real challenge on his hands, I have low expectations about the caliber of players we can bring in. Dont make matters worse, we might not have any money but we don’t have any debt. Yet 🫣 |
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Post by staffordshrew on May 4, 2024 10:22:42 GMT 1
With the debt we have I can't see us having much of a fund to bring players in, so Hurst has a real challenge on his hands, I have low expectations about the caliber of players we can bring in. Dont make matters worse, we might not have any money but we don’t have any debt. Yet 🫣 Let the agents have the idea that we have zero money, if they want to extract more money than a player is worth, try Wrexham  |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 11:50:59 GMT 1
With the debt we have I can't see us having much of a fund to bring players in, so Hurst has a real challenge on his hands, I have low expectations about the caliber of players we can bring in. Dont make matters worse, we might not have any money but we don’t have any debt. Yet 🫣 We have no debt as at June 2023. However, as we only had £80k in the bank as that point and Roland/Duncan have been bankrolling us then you'd assume there is now a debt, even if just to the two of them. Of course we don't know for how long they were doing that and when or even, if that stopped |
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Post by chirkshrew on May 4, 2024 11:51:14 GMT 1
It is possible to knock a team together with ' bargain buys' and loans....and it will be the same next season....and I look forward to seeing what Hurst comes up with..... there's plenty out there👍
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Post by staffordshrew on May 4, 2024 11:57:47 GMT 1
It is possible to knock a team together with ' bargain buys' and loans....and it will be the same next season....and I look forward to seeing what Hurst comes up with..... there's plenty out there👍 Mr Moore and Mr Hurst may not have to shop at the clearance counter so much with the high wage earners removed/reduced too. |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 4, 2024 12:10:18 GMT 1
Wow,now that's the sort of random name that we all love😁 Creative,goalscoring midfielder 24 years of age- 45 appearances, 19 goals this season but has never played above NLS level. The cynic in me says there's a reason why he's never played higher,but the dreamer says imagine if he was a success with us😁 Probably similar level to where Udoh came from. Yeah Udoh came from NLN. Udoh had played at a higher level though, been through academy route and a was a couple of years younger than Ruff Ruff looks purely non league background, playing for clubs I've barely heard of. Not a problem but would be a huge jump to league one and pro football, and something he would have never had (unlike Udoh) |
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Post by mullersalopian on May 4, 2024 13:13:33 GMT 1
Will people be happy with bargains from lower leagues etc given sobowale Mata and the other lad from Ireland all been said what a waste?
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Post by The Clash 1966 on May 4, 2024 13:16:16 GMT 1
Any relation to Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond of Carry on up the Khyber fame ?? |
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Post by chirkshrew on May 4, 2024 13:25:52 GMT 1
We need to look at players being released from championship clubs,and from premier academies,and also the better players from league 2 and conference....no need for me to tell Hurst what to do..... he's already on the case👍👍
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Post by northwestman on May 4, 2024 13:26:11 GMT 1
The one problem may be that Wrexham have deep pockets and there manager has said they will need league 1 capable players, so I would think agents will be licking be there lips, as they try to get bigger wages for there clients bearing in mind even if Wrexham stick with there current budget it will place them .with some of the bigger wages budgets in the league. Let us hope that Hurst can pull a few rabbits out his hat. It wouldn't surprise me if Marosi signed for Wrexham. The keeper they played last season was only on loan to them. |
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Post by hectord0g137 on May 4, 2024 13:42:02 GMT 1
I am told all to frequently that it is every players dream to play for Wrexham ......and that's just on this site.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 4, 2024 14:09:25 GMT 1
The one problem may be that Wrexham have deep pockets and there manager has said they will need league 1 capable players, so I would think agents will be licking be there lips, as they try to get bigger wages for there clients bearing in mind even if Wrexham stick with there current budget it will place them .with some of the bigger wages budgets in the league. Let us hope that Hurst can pull a few rabbits out his hat. It wouldn't surprise me if Marosi signed for Wrexham. The keeper they played last season was only on loan to them. He can do better than that. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 4, 2024 14:09:40 GMT 1
I am told all to frequently that it is every players dream to play for Wrexham ......and that's just on this site. Why wouldn't they, a touch of Hollywood and a pree season against teams most players will never play against.plus better wages. |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on May 4, 2024 14:25:59 GMT 1
Can we stop discussing Chameleon pretending he's ITK by chucking random names on here?
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Post by Pilch on May 4, 2024 14:30:18 GMT 1
Can we stop discussing Chameleon pretending he's ITK by chucking random names on here? How about you stop discussing chameleon We don't do that anymore |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 14:34:35 GMT 1
I am told all to frequently that it is every players dream to play for Wrexham ......and that's just on this site. Why wouldn't they, a touch of Hollywood and a pree season against teams most players will never play against.plus better wages. And a club that one day will be playing in front of 50k... I can see what the lure is. |
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Post by The Clash 1966 on May 4, 2024 15:04:29 GMT 1
I am told all to frequently that it is every players dream to play for Wrexham ......and that's just on this site. Aiming for the gutter more like. |
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Post by staffordshrew on May 4, 2024 15:22:50 GMT 1
Any relation to Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond of Carry on up the Khyber fame ?? His parents should have called him Ian, then he would have been a Ruff Ian. |
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Post by chirkshrew on May 4, 2024 16:55:56 GMT 1
Wonder if we'll go for Fraser at wolves again... they're saying he needs to go out to a league1 team next season.....we could well do, especially if udoh goes🤔🤔
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 16:59:41 GMT 1
Will people be happy with bargains from lower leagues etc given sobowale Mata and the other lad from Ireland all been said what a waste? I can only speak for myself but yes I'd be fine with it. There are plenty of players in non league/Irish/Scottish leagues who go on to have good careers at our level, the challenge is spotting ones who can make the step up. No manager/DOF/scout gets them all right, it's fair to say this season has been poor, lets hope the scouting is more successful next season. |
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Post by darkshrew on May 4, 2024 17:11:50 GMT 1
Will people be happy with bargains from lower leagues etc given sobowale Mata and the other lad from Ireland all been said what a waste? I can only speak for myself but yes I'd be fine with it. There are plenty of players in non league/Irish/Scottish leagues who go on to have good careers at our level, the challenge is spotting ones who can make the step up. No manager/DOF/scout gets them all right, it's fair to say this season has been poor, lets hope the scouting is more successful next season. We got John McGinlay from Elgin City - best forward I have ever seen play for the town - yes, that includes Grant Holt. |
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