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Post by chirkshrew on May 3, 2024 13:23:17 GMT 1
Yep...to me,fitness will be a big thing for us next season,with our limited budget,we need to be fitter than most in the division,then at least it gives you a chance👍👍
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 3, 2024 13:37:02 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall….. Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost. "Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that. Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together. "Top few places?"...whoa,🙄 touch of realism needed here. Unless we can get PL loan players in that aren't costing us any wages we are going to be severely restricted ATM I'm a "glass empty" guy....think that we will have another major struggle next season even with PH in charge. Sadly lightning doesn't strike twice 😪😪
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 3, 2024 13:40:10 GMT 1
Currently Marosi is worth £0. If we triggered his extension he would be worth £250k (or whatever), a sale would be less likely and we would be stuck with a player with too high a wage (suspectedly) for the next year. And if we offered him a contract worth less than his current one, then he'd be entitled to leave for nothing. Catch 22 situation methinks. It is but he made a number of saves that were contributing factor in us staying up personally I think we should keep him for another year. See what team Hurst can assemble and go from there, also won't we get the £2million from the FA in a year's time if so that will be a huge help to the club.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 3, 2024 14:02:54 GMT 1
Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together. "Top few places?"...whoa,🙄 touch of realism needed here. Unless we can get PL loan players in that aren't costing us any wages we are going to be severely restricted ATM I'm a "glass empty" guy....think that we will have another major struggle next season even with PH in charge. Sadly lightning doesn't strike twice 😪😪 Not suggesting that we will be in with chance of the top 2 places but at this stage it's not impossible to dream. Imagine Hursts last time here, had we not got off to a flying start we might have struggled to even get in the play offs at all. This building your squad over the first 9/10 games that the transfer window is open isnt a good thing, I've felt it was an issue with all the previous managers since Hurst left. Just out of interest can anyone find who we signed and when in the Wembley season, my memory is that most were in place by the time we kicked off and had played together in the PS friendlies. I was hoping Hurst might be looking to do very much the same if he could.
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Post by chirkshrew on May 3, 2024 14:24:55 GMT 1
Think I remember he had the final choice of the last loan place between Godfrey and Dan James......and thank god he chose Godfrey...a rolls Royce of a player...can't remember when Morris or Rodman came in.....think Rodman was one of the first🤷🤷....please correct me,if I'm way off mark👍
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 3, 2024 14:26:05 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall….. Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost. "Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that. Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together. Lovely in theory but rarely happens and Hurst knows that. And also, if thats what you want them you are likely to be then only be able to get players that have limited options as players who are in demand (or believe they should be) might have around for a better offer
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Post by davycrockett on May 3, 2024 15:31:18 GMT 1
Think I remember he had the final choice of the last loan place between Godfrey and Dan James......and thank god he chose Godfrey...a rolls Royce of a player...can't remember when Morris or Rodman came in.....think Rodman was one of the first🤷🤷....please correct me,if I'm way off mark👍 Dean Henderson signed on loan on 10th July and was the 8th summer signing if that helps
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 3, 2024 15:35:32 GMT 1
Think I remember he had the final choice of the last loan place between Godfrey and Dan James......and thank god he chose Godfrey...a rolls Royce of a player...can't remember when Morris or Rodman came in.....think Rodman was one of the first🤷🤷....please correct me,if I'm way off mark👍 Rodman came the previous season from Notts County who were bottom of L2 and Rodman couldn't get in the team!...all things considered a remarkable signing. Dan James came on loan,played in a pre season 1-0 defeat at Brackley and then felt home sick, enabling us to bring in-; Ben Godfrey came in almost as the window closed,as Norwich were seriously considering holding on to him as he was right on the edge of their first team squad
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 3, 2024 16:08:12 GMT 1
Godfrey is an outstanding player and if he keeps fit he's on the fringe of the England squad.
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Post by jamo on May 3, 2024 17:13:44 GMT 1
Godfrey is an outstanding player and if he keeps fit he's on the fringe of the England squad. I once thought that but not so sure now. He struggles to be an automatic starter for Dyche, who regularly puts him on the bench and brings him on later in the game. I also think that he plays in an area where England have a richness of options so feel he may have dropped down the pecking order somewhat. I’d have back here though, loved watching him play in the blue&amber
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Post by staffordshrew on May 3, 2024 17:27:20 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall….. Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost. "Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that. Managing expectations? Unlikely to say everything will be in place by the start of pre-season in case it isn't. Then there's loans in that club's might not be prepared to agree until the are sure of their signed up players. It may be though that even one or two who haven't signed are training with us come pre season. The main thing at the moment is that everyone goes away and has a good holiday, after MM and PH have run the rule over other clubs released players and academy scholars to see what they think of them. With luck MM and PH find themselves poolside with some prospective signings ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Then, those offered a new contract will, no doubt, have firm dates after their present contract ends to get back to say if they want to accept, then we know exactly where we are as regards what's required.
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Post by mrcricket on May 3, 2024 17:29:09 GMT 1
Didn't Rodman and Nsiala come in the January window? - I remember thinking how underwhelmed they both seemed, how wrong I was when they fitted into the Hurst style of play and vision.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 3, 2024 17:30:32 GMT 1
The one problem may be that Wrexham have deep pockets and there manager has said they will need league 1 capable players, so I would think agents will be licking be there lips, as they try to get bigger wages for there clients bearing in mind even if Wrexham stick with there current budget it will place them .with some of the bigger wages budgets in the league. Let us hope that Hurst can pull a few rabbits out his hat.
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Post by tarporleyblue on May 3, 2024 17:37:48 GMT 1
Godfrey is an outstanding player and if he keeps fit he's on the fringe of the England squad. I once thought that but not so sure now. He struggles to be an automatic starter for Dyche, who regularly puts him on the bench and brings him on later in the game. I also think that he plays in an area where England have a richness of options so feel he may have dropped down the pecking order somewhat. I’d have back here though, loved watching him play in the blue&amber There was talk of him going to Leeds Utd on loan in the January window but that fell through.
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Post by londonshrew75 on May 3, 2024 17:42:19 GMT 1
Next season could be a real problem for us as the loan market will not be anything like it used to be. Premier league clubs will be far more corsious, considering the points that have recently been deducted. If MK go up and Birmingham go down, then those seven clubs will more than likely occupy the top half of the table 🙄. Of course anything can happen, but I'd be astonishing if from three games onward we even get in the top half never mind make it.
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Post by doctorproctor on May 3, 2024 17:43:59 GMT 1
Hope you don’t mind, but I’m going to throw a name into the mix.
We released our skipper Luke Young today. Many of us, me included, are gutted. He’s been a fantastic servant over the last 7 years and I was hoping he’d get a chance to play in L1. I certainly think he’s good enough. A proper leader who always leaves absolutely everything behind him on the pitch.
He lives in Oswestry and is very settled there. Wife has set up her own business, kids play for local youth clubs and Paul Hirst will know all about him from his days in the NL. Would be a great signing for you and I know most Wrexham fans would wish him all the best, even in the blue and amber.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 3, 2024 17:53:34 GMT 1
Hope you don’t mind, but I’m going to throw a name into the mix. We released our skipper Luke Young today. Many of us, me included, are gutted. He’s been a fantastic servant over the last 7 years and I was hoping he’d get a chance to play in L1. I certainly think he’s good enough. A proper leader who always leaves absolutely everything behind him on the pitch. He lives in Oswestry and is very settled there. Wife has set up her own business, kids play for local youth clubs and Paul Hirst will know all about him from his days in the NL. Would be a great signing for you and I know most Wrexham fans would wish him all the best, even in the blue and amber. Daydreaming, I can see him saving the penalty that means we knock you out of the cup next season ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by chirkshrew on May 3, 2024 18:05:17 GMT 1
So 8 signings by 10th July.....not bad going that,hopefully Hurst can repeat that next season......we will see🤔🤔
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 3, 2024 18:42:07 GMT 1
Since our first spell in L1 back in 2012, we've generally struggled to attract players because of the wages we are willing to offer, that's meant we've had to go for the usual players of cast offs from fellow L1 sides, youngsters on loan and then the odd lower league journeymen. The only time we managed to attract proven players at this level was under Cotterill but that meant a very small squad, plus of course it led to the financial situation we find ourselves in. Anyone expecting big names + proven quality is going to be very disappointed, the best hope is that if the financial situation is a bit more stable and Roland is no longer bankrolling us then we will have the calibre of players that we've generally had in L1 which might give us a fighting chance of staying up. But if Roland is still bankrolling us then I dread to think the budget Hurst will be given and staying up next season will be a minor miracle. Every summer we see players getting released and fans suggesting we go for them which then results in them panicking as none of them sign for us. Strap yourself in for this again this season with the added bonus of signing players released from Grimsby, Cheltenham, etc. This isn't a moan at Roland, Mickey or anyone, just an assessment of where we are as a club Happy Friday everyone
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Post by wakemanender on May 3, 2024 18:48:01 GMT 1
Club Captain Ben Tozer released by Wrexham. His long throws are worth a few goals. Not sure why he hasn't been playing regular recently. Probably not ready for the step up to a better football club but impressive on the few occasions I watched Wrexham earlier in the season.
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Post by chirkshrew on May 3, 2024 18:54:48 GMT 1
I dunno who's slower Pierre or tozer......we need a new nsiala.....fast as you like,not many got past him,and cost £25000....that was a proper centre half👍👍
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Post by belfastshrew on May 3, 2024 18:58:52 GMT 1
He lives in Oswestry and is very settled there. Wife has set up her own business, kids play for local youth clubs Ah gosh just looked him up and sure enough hes there at the kids football training every week. He always gave me the impression he was a player. I wish him the best at finding a new club
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Post by wakemanender on May 3, 2024 19:08:55 GMT 1
Just noted that Tozer is now aged 34. Has a player ever been bought just for his long throws. Ideal on towns narrow pitch.
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Post by mrcricket on May 3, 2024 19:09:58 GMT 1
I dunno who's slower Pierre or tozer......we need a new nsiala.....fast as you like,not many got past him,and cost £25000....that was a proper centre half👍👍 Pierre is a little like a steam train in that it takes him 45 minutes to get going, but I see what you mean. There is the need for a fast central defender in the squad, neither Dunkley, Feeney or Sraha are lightening either.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 3, 2024 19:17:09 GMT 1
Hope you don’t mind, but I’m going to throw a name into the mix. We released our skipper Luke Young today. Many of us, me included, are gutted. He’s been a fantastic servant over the last 7 years and I was hoping he’d get a chance to play in L1. I certainly think he’s good enough. A proper leader who always leaves absolutely everything behind him on the pitch. He lives in Oswestry and is very settled there. Wife has set up her own business, kids play for local youth clubs and Paul Hirst will know all about him from his days in the NL. Would be a great signing for you and I know most Wrexham fans would wish him all the best, even in the blue and amber. Daydreaming, I can see him saving the penalty that means we knock you out of the cup next season ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/ZEjvtQKOmLArVPumuTsh.png) Ermmm??? He's not a goalkeeper 😳
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Post by doctorproctor on May 3, 2024 19:22:36 GMT 1
Daydreaming, I can see him saving the penalty that means we knock you out of the cup next season ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/ZEjvtQKOmLArVPumuTsh.png) Ermmm??? He's not a goalkeeper 😳 Takes a bloody good penalty though (until Mullin arrived) and imo our best dead ball specialist.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 3, 2024 19:27:42 GMT 1
Daydreaming, I can see him saving the penalty that means we knock you out of the cup next season ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/ZEjvtQKOmLArVPumuTsh.png) Ermmm??? He's not a goalkeeper 😳 Senior moment, read Skipper, thought keeper ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
Revised daydream, scoring the winning goal against Wrexham.
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Post by edgmond on May 3, 2024 19:50:18 GMT 1
Hope you don’t mind, but I’m going to throw a name into the mix. We released our skipper Luke Young today. Many of us, me included, are gutted. He’s been a fantastic servant over the last 7 years and I was hoping he’d get a chance to play in L1. I certainly think he’s good enough. A proper leader who always leaves absolutely everything behind him on the pitch. He lives in Oswestry and is very settled there. Wife has set up her own business, kids play for local youth clubs and Paul Hirst will know all about him from his days in the NL. Would be a great signing for you and I know most Wrexham fans would wish him all the best, even in the blue and amber. Thanks for the tip off. I hope you have PH’s number! Out of interest, is Luke left or right footed? We have plenty of left-sided players if all those offered contracts sign.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 3, 2024 20:10:24 GMT 1
Godfrey is an outstanding player and if he keeps fit he's on the fringe of the England squad. I once thought that but not so sure now. He struggles to be an automatic starter for Dyche, who regularly puts him on the bench and brings him on later in the game. I also think that he plays in an area where England have a richness of options so feel he may have dropped down the pecking order somewhat. I’d have back here though, loved watching him play in the blue&amber Has become a bit of a utility player really, playing across the back. Played for quite a while at right back this year (is playing tonight) but Patterson and Coleman are injured so not a lot of competition. He would be pretty far down the list for England I think. Only chance would be his versatility. But you never know what next season brings, especially as Branthwaite may well leave so may leave a centre back berth open
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 3, 2024 20:13:54 GMT 1
Club Captain Ben Tozer released by Wrexham. His long throws are worth a few goals. Not sure why he hasn't been playing regular recently. Probably not ready for the step up to a better football club but impressive on the few occasions I watched Wrexham earlier in the season. Always a good league two player, not sure about League one. And at that age think he will stay at that level or NL. not sure players should be solely recruited on dead ball/throw in etc and anyway I don't think the pitch will stay as narrow as it has been
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