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Post by barrynic on May 2, 2024 10:43:51 GMT 1
At least 2 Championship clubs interested in the keeper...so I think it's not going to happen.
Portsmouth just released at least three very very good players...Ragett amongst them.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 2, 2024 11:37:42 GMT 1
At least 2 Championship clubs interested in the keeper...so I think it's not going to happen. Portsmouth just released at least three very very good players...Ragett amongst them. Guess it depends if he wants to be 2/3rd choise at a Championship side or possibly be No1 in the league below.
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Post by bordersalopian74 on May 2, 2024 12:30:50 GMT 1
Could James Bolton be on his way back to play under Hurst? Currently at St Mirren, but his current contract there expires in the Summer.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on May 2, 2024 12:35:58 GMT 1
Could James Bolton be on his way back to play under Hurst? Currently at St Mirren, but his current contract there expires in the Summer. Signed a contract extension in Feb, under contract until 2025
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Post by davycrockett on May 2, 2024 12:37:45 GMT 1
At least 2 Championship clubs interested in the keeper...so I think it's not going to happen. Portsmouth just released at least three very very good players...Ragett amongst them. Should we have triggered his contract extension so we could benefit from selling him rather than offer reduced terms which means no fee?
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Post by belfastshrew on May 2, 2024 13:10:30 GMT 1
Should we have triggered his contract extension so we could benefit from selling him rather than offer reduced terms which means no fee? Currently Marosi is worth £0. If we triggered his extension he would be worth £250k (or whatever), a sale would be less likely and we would be stuck with a player with too high a wage (suspectedly) for the next year.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2024 13:20:01 GMT 1
Should we have triggered his contract extension so we could benefit from selling him rather than offer reduced terms which means no fee? Currently Marosi is worth £0. If we triggered his extension he would be worth £250k (or whatever), a sale would be less likely and we would be stuck with a player with too high a wage (suspectedly) for the next year. And if we offered him a contract worth less than his current one, then he'd be entitled to leave for nothing. Catch 22 situation methinks.
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Post by belfastshrew on May 2, 2024 13:24:02 GMT 1
We offered him new terms because his current contract is unsustainable to trigger the year extension. Simple as really. Offering contracts based on the potential for a sale is suicide. Imagine if he did his ACL the day after he signed on the line, y'all get my drift.
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Post by davycrockett on May 2, 2024 13:56:41 GMT 1
We offered him new terms because his current contract is unsustainable to trigger the year extension. Simple as really. Offering contracts based on the potential for a sale is suicide. Imagine if he did his ACL the day after he signed on the line, y'all get my drift. With top championship keepers worth £20 million (Plymouths rumoured) but more realistically £5/6 million who knows? I get your drift but clubs like Peterborough wouldn’t just say good bye despite their £25 million debt.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 2, 2024 14:46:09 GMT 1
Jackson Smith ex Wolves,just completed 1st season at Walsall,started as back up but established himself as No 1...good with his distribution and Walsall want him to stay...he has improved his stock considerably and would be a good choice if Marco goes Would still cost as I'm sure Walsall would offer him a new deal
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 2, 2024 14:46:20 GMT 1
At least 2 Championship clubs interested in the keeper...so I think it's not going to happen. Portsmouth just released at least three very very good players...Ragett amongst them. Should we have triggered his contract extension so we could benefit from selling him rather than offer reduced terms which means no fee? Have we actually got one? When the likes of Dunkley & Bayliss signed it was stated we had an option to extend, there was no mention of this when Marosi signed But let's say there was one, it does become a difficult decision. Do you extend because you want to sell and make a profit but then you are gambling on clubs being interested and willing to pay what we are allegedly paying him. If not, you are stuck with a player on big wages I suspect the club have offered terms to him and Dunkley on massively reduced contracts which they will no doubt turn down, however it will be seen to be that they rejected us, as opposed to we released two key players.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 2, 2024 14:47:34 GMT 1
At least 2 Championship clubs interested in the keeper...so I think it's not going to happen. Portsmouth just released at least three very very good players...Ragett amongst them. Should we have triggered his contract extension so we could benefit from selling him rather than offer reduced terms which means no fee? Did Marosi even had an extension trigger? I thought he was just on a standard 3 year deal. And as said below, even if he did have one, extension is likely to be on same terms and highly doubt the new deal would be at the same level
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 2, 2024 14:59:13 GMT 1
Currently Marosi is worth £0. If we triggered his extension he would be worth £250k (or whatever), a sale would be less likely and we would be stuck with a player with too high a wage (suspectedly) for the next year. And if we offered him a contract worth less than his current one, then he'd be entitled to leave for nothing. Catch 22 situation methinks. Doesn't make any difference of what contract is offered, he's still entitled to leave for nothing.
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Post by mrcricket on May 2, 2024 15:09:38 GMT 1
Isn't it a myth that Marosi had an extension? Again as the double R says I thought it was just a three year deal.
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Post by Exkeeper on May 2, 2024 15:25:33 GMT 1
We offered him new terms because his current contract is unsustainable to trigger the year extension. Simple as really. Offering contracts based on the potential for a sale is suicide. Imagine if he did his ACL the day after he signed on the line, y'all get my drift. I guess that is what insurance is for. Even Sunday League clubs have to insure their players.
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Post by kl8-2 on May 2, 2024 15:26:44 GMT 1
If the option is in the club's favour and they trigger it he will be under contract for another season (on current or better terms).
They have chosen not to trigger the option and instead opted to offer new terms (reduced). He has the option to accept or reject this offer, if he rejects it he can sign for another club with no fee payable.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 2, 2024 16:08:56 GMT 1
Talking of experienced free agent ‘keepers, David de Gea is currently training at Alty.
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Post by northwestman on May 2, 2024 16:15:33 GMT 1
Talking of experienced free agent ‘keepers, David de Gea is currently training at Alty. I really hope that Altrincham make it next season. I can't see the relegated clubs FGR and Sutton making much impression.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 2, 2024 18:33:21 GMT 1
Talking of experienced free agent ‘keepers, David de Gea is currently training at Alty. Blimey forgot about him. A full year out of the game. Gotta imagine it's hard to return to top level after that
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Post by vladimir on May 2, 2024 18:55:10 GMT 1
Talking of experienced free agent ‘keepers, David de Gea is currently training at Alty. Blimey forgot about him. A full year out of the game. Gotta imagine it's hard to return to top level after that Probably end up with our friends down the 483
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Post by staffordshrew on May 2, 2024 19:30:57 GMT 1
If the option is in the club's favour and they trigger it he will be under contract for another season (on current or better terms). They have chosen not to trigger the option and instead opted to offer new terms (reduced). He has the option to accept or reject this offer, if he rejects it he can sign for another club with no fee payable. Now up to their agents to find a better deal in the current economic situation somewhere they want to go to.
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Post by secretshrew on May 3, 2024 6:43:43 GMT 1
It’s a weird one with Marosi. He won and player of the season award (can’t remember which one) and then we’re offering him a lower wage to essentially do the same job. If that was any other job, you’d tell the employer to take a running jump after being recognised for doing so well at the awards do! He won’t be signing nor will Udoh or Dunkley such is the life of lower league footballers. They’ll all be in league 1 next season but for different teams.
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Post by belfastshrew on May 3, 2024 7:38:32 GMT 1
What do we think about Udoh? Offered a contract in August I think. Recon he's been offered better terms?
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Post by Pilch on May 3, 2024 7:38:35 GMT 1
It’s a weird one with Marosi. He won and player of the season award (can’t remember which one) and then we’re offering him a lower wage to essentially do the same job. If that was any other job, you’d tell the employer to take a running jump after being recognised for doing so well at the awards do! He won’t be signing nor will Udoh or Dunkley such is the life of lower league footballers. They’ll all be in league 1 next season but for different teams. You mean like the bbc who have given many lower deals recently , gary lineker being a prime example And many other people during covid And most of us have if you factor inflation into things Bottom line marosi was given contract to which the manager lied about to his bosses and for whatever reason it's was signed and sealed and the mistake cannot be repeated
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Post by secretshrew on May 3, 2024 8:52:45 GMT 1
It’s a weird one with Marosi. He won and player of the season award (can’t remember which one) and then we’re offering him a lower wage to essentially do the same job. If that was any other job, you’d tell the employer to take a running jump after being recognised for doing so well at the awards do! He won’t be signing nor will Udoh or Dunkley such is the life of lower league footballers. They’ll all be in league 1 next season but for different teams. You mean like the bbc who have given many lower deals recently , gary lineker being a prime example And many other people during covid And most of us have if you factor inflation into things Bottom line marosi was given contract to which the manager lied about to his bosses and for whatever reason it's was signed and sealed and the mistake cannot be repeated True but if most people perform well at work they get rewarded with a wage increase or a promotion not a reduction! This is where agents earn their money for players as I’m pretty sure they’ll be trying to earn him a better deal elsewhere. Not criticising the club, but it’s a strange dynamic!
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Post by davycrockett on May 3, 2024 10:07:11 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall…..
Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost.
"Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that.
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Post by vladimir on May 3, 2024 10:18:20 GMT 1
It’s a weird one with Marosi. He won and player of the season award (can’t remember which one) and then we’re offering him a lower wage to essentially do the same job. If that was any other job, you’d tell the employer to take a running jump after being recognised for doing so well at the awards do! He won’t be signing nor will Udoh or Dunkley such is the life of lower league footballers. They’ll all be in league 1 next season but for different teams. Bottom line marosi was given contract to which the manager lied about to his bosses and for whatever reason it's was signed and sealed and the mistake cannot be repeated Indeed such a lie and fraud that even when the contract was literally under the Chairmans nose and in his direct eye line he wasn't aware of it's contents. www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2021/june/marko-maroi-joins-the-salop-family/Some con man was our Steve.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 3, 2024 11:31:33 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall….. Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost. "Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that. Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together.
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Post by darkshrew on May 3, 2024 13:00:34 GMT 1
Interesting article from PH, tend to miss these with pay wall….. Hurst: Reset is a chance to bring Shrews together Paul Hurst is hoping to use this summer's reset as an opportunity to bring together a group of players who are more 'aligned'. There is set to be a huge turnover in their squad after they released eight first-team players at the conclusion of the League One season on Saturday. Some players have been offered new deals but may not sign, while the loan players have returned to their parent clubs. This leaves Town with nine first-team players. And Hurst says that this can sometimes be a benefit. "It can be," he said. "I think sometimes there are cycles within a football club. "There were a group of players who were here that had a good season last year - albeit and I think it has been made public that was at a certain cost. "Then that has been added to with a new group, and I don't think that has mixed in fantastically well if l am honest. "So I think to try to get a group who are all on a similar page and more aligned with each other that is what we have the option of doing. "Is it a significant challenge? Yes, I don't think I can hide away from that it is. "Part of it is exciting, and part of it is daunting, even by the middle of July the squad might not be complete, hopefully by the close of the August window, we are all happy with the business and can ultimately overachieve. "That is ultimately the aim. 1 have no issue with that. Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together. The loanees rarely get sorted early on - Hurst is likely to be looking to the loan market for at least three of the first team.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 3, 2024 13:09:51 GMT 1
Oh dear. I did hope that the vast majority of the squad would have been in place during the pre season friendlies. Playing with a part squad for almost 1/4 of the season isnt good in my book, too many points can be lost which can mean by end of August you have to play catch up. The top few places can be out of reach before you've got your squad fully together. The loanees rarely get sorted early on - Hurst is likely to be looking to the loan market for at least three of the first team. I'm sure he will be but I'd also hope he has memories (nightmares??) Of how fitness issues hindered us this year so he would want to get as many of the squad up to the fitness levels of his last time here and have his ideal first eleven playing together during the pre season games.
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