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Post by darkshrew on Jun 22, 2024 18:18:04 GMT 1
For once Shropshire looks like it could be a swing county - but it will call for some tactical voting.
Shrewsbury - a two horse race between Conservative and Labour - if you are against the Tories (and even local Tories seem to be against Kawcysnki who is famed as being tall, unpleasantly arrogant, not very bright, never present in his constituency, and so effective that in 19 years he has never been given a position of responsibility by his own party), then you need to get behind Labour to make sure that Kawcynski does not continue on his gravy train.
South Shropshire - a two horse race between Conservative and LibDem - if you want to oust the Tories then Matt Greene is the man and you will know that your vote has gone to a nice local bloke who will do a good job as your local MP. I know that many of us know Matt - let's hope he gets in so that we have someone decent representing us.
Wrekin - a two horse race between the Tories and Labour - if you want Pritchard out (and who wouldn't - read his wiki) then you need to vote Labour.
North Shropshire - Helen Morgan has done a damn good job, cannot see anyone wanting her gone as their MP - just shows you what a difference it makes to have someone good in the role.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jun 22, 2024 20:38:27 GMT 1
Just a prediction….
Labour 40%
Reform 20%
Conservatives 18%
Lib Dem 14%
Others 8%
Reform the big unknown as though some may not like their answers they are the only ones willing to talk hard on immigration, although they seem to have a ceiling of low 20’s.
End result a big Labour majority with the Tories (just about) the official opposition.
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Post by gtismygod on Jun 22, 2024 21:16:50 GMT 1
I’ll be voting Reform. Couldn’t possibly bring myself to vote for either Sunak or Starmer.
Although part of me wants to vote Labour to help get rid of the odious Kawczynski, who seems more dislikable than both Sunak and Starmer combined. I’d be genuinely interested to hear the thoughts of those on here who choose to vote for him election after election.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 22, 2024 21:36:52 GMT 1
I’ll be voting Reform. Couldn’t possibly bring myself to vote for either Sunak or Starmer. Although part of me wants to vote Labour to help get rid of the odious Kawczynski, who seems more dislikable than both Sunak and Starmer combined. I’d be genuinely interested to hear the thoughts of those on here who choose to vote for him election after election. I think that this election is really waking up people to the need for proportional representation- so many are voting for parties they do not support just to lodge a meaningful vote against the party they like the least. Those who vote with their convictions are often just wasting their vote which is just not right in a democracy - imagine how you’ll feel if reform or green get 20% of the votes nationally and no seats. |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 22, 2024 21:40:08 GMT 1
I've had zero canvassers yet , have had virgin fibre broadband 5 times in the last month , I think I'll vote for them 😎
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jun 23, 2024 0:54:57 GMT 1
For once Shropshire looks like it could be a swing county - but it will call for some tactical voting. Shrewsbury - a two horse race between Conservative and Labour - if you are against the Tories (and even local Tories seem to be against Kawcysnki who is famed as being tall, unpleasantly arrogant, not very bright, never present in his constituency, and so effective that in 19 years he has never been given a position of responsibility by his own party), then you need to get behind Labour to make sure that Kawcynski does not continue on his gravy train. South Shropshire - a two horse race between Conservative and LibDem - if you want to oust the Tories then Matt Greene is the man and you will know that your vote has gone to a nice local bloke who will do a good job as your local MP. I know that many of us know Matt - let's hope he gets in so that we have someone decent representing us. Wrekin - a two horse race between the Tories and Labour - if you want Pritchard out (and who wouldn't - read his wiki) then you need to vote Labour. North Shropshire - Helen Morgan has done a damn good job, cannot see anyone wanting her gone as their MP - just shows you what a difference it makes to have someone good in the role. I had thought Helen Morgan had gone and the LibDem candidate was a bloke called Alex, but I see that though Alex is leafletting us and writing to my kids, North Shropshire is still Helen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2024 8:50:19 GMT 1
For once Shropshire looks like it could be a swing county - but it will call for some tactical voting. Shrewsbury - a two horse race between Conservative and Labour - if you are against the Tories (and even local Tories seem to be against Kawcysnki who is famed as being tall, unpleasantly arrogant, not very bright, never present in his constituency, and so effective that in 19 years he has never been given a position of responsibility by his own party), then you need to get behind Labour to make sure that Kawcynski does not continue on his gravy train. South Shropshire - a two horse race between Conservative and LibDem - if you want to oust the Tories then Matt Greene is the man and you will know that your vote has gone to a nice local bloke who will do a good job as your local MP. I know that many of us know Matt - let's hope he gets in so that we have someone decent representing us. Wrekin - a two horse race between the Tories and Labour - if you want Pritchard out (and who wouldn't - read his wiki) then you need to vote Labour. North Shropshire - Helen Morgan has done a damn good job, cannot see anyone wanting her gone as their MP - just shows you what a difference it makes to have someone good in the role. I had thought Helen Morgan had gone and the LibDem candidate was a bloke called Alex, but I see that though Alex is leafletting us and writing to my kids, North Shropshire is still Helen. Alex Wagner is the Lib Dem candidate for Shrewsbury. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Jun 23, 2024 8:57:54 GMT 1
Helen Morgan has been everywhere since she got in. Fair play to her. She looks very likely to hold her seat here in north Shrops.
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Post by kl8-2 on Jun 23, 2024 10:28:02 GMT 1
I will be voting for kit C.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 23, 2024 11:07:23 GMT 1
I will be voting for kit C. By far the best option imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2024 11:18:34 GMT 1
I had thought Helen Morgan had gone and the LibDem candidate was a bloke called Alex, but I see that though Alex is leafletting us and writing to my kids, North Shropshire is still Helen. Alex Wagner is the Lib Dem candidate for Shrewsbury. Loves a photo op does out alex. Very rarely turns up to council meetings. A few photos of him in town gear mind. Better than Daniel did with holding a shirt with the tags still on. |
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jun 23, 2024 11:20:56 GMT 1
Head above parapet time. I believe we should base our votes on our local sitting mp. My local MP is not a member of my favoured party but has been excellent in their actions since being in office. I can never vote for their leader or in fact any of the party leaders but there is the conundrum I can not forget what my Mp has achieved locally. I will be crossing my fingers and be voting for a sound MP who represents a party I don't support knowing I am doing the right thing
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jun 23, 2024 12:50:06 GMT 1
For once Shropshire looks like it could be a swing county - but it will call for some tactical voting. Shrewsbury - a two horse race between Conservative and Labour - if you are against the Tories (and even local Tories seem to be against Kawcysnki who is famed as being tall, unpleasantly arrogant, not very bright, never present in his constituency, and so effective that in 19 years he has never been given a position of responsibility by his own party), then you need to get behind Labour to make sure that Kawcynski does not continue on his gravy train. South Shropshire - a two horse race between Conservative and LibDem - if you want to oust the Tories then Matt Greene is the man and you will know that your vote has gone to a nice local bloke who will do a good job as your local MP. I know that many of us know Matt - let's hope he gets in so that we have someone decent representing us. Wrekin - a two horse race between the Tories and Labour - if you want Pritchard out (and who wouldn't - read his wiki) then you need to vote Labour. North Shropshire - Helen Morgan has done a damn good job, cannot see anyone wanting her gone as their MP - just shows you what a difference it makes to have someone good in the role. DK was given the stellar position of trade envy to Mongolia . |
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jun 23, 2024 12:52:19 GMT 1
I'm going for Reform purely as a protest against Sunak and the possibility of Starmergeddon.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 23, 2024 13:02:22 GMT 1
Choosing between Sunak and Starmer is like choosing between Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville to babysit your kids.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 23, 2024 13:35:17 GMT 1
After just over 3/4 of the campaigning its striking how relatively little the polls have moved - the only real change is Labour and Conservative's dropping a few percentage points, and Reform picking these up since Farage returned to lead the party.
I guess that will be the narrative of the final two weeks of the campaign as to whether Reform continue those gains and boost their prjected seats, or whether Reform have roughly hit the maximum level they can reach.
I'd kind of expected the Comnservatives to close the gap on Labour a bit during the campaign, but that has yet to happen and the Conservative campaign seems to keep hitting issues which are impacting on their progress. Labour have hit a few humps but so far no dramatic mistake or sudden scandal hit their campaign. It sounds really odd after the 80 seat majority they got at the last election that now the Conservatives winning 150 seats would currently seem the limit of their ambitions. Hearts says they will get more than that, but so far the polls don't back that theory up
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2024 13:43:43 GMT 1
Choosing between Sunak and Starmer is like choosing between Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville to babysit your kids. Wow. It really isn't anything like that. What strange imagery there. |
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 23, 2024 14:40:47 GMT 1
Choosing between Sunak and Starmer is like choosing between Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville to babysit your kids. Yes, 2 cheeks of the same odious arse |
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Post by WATR on Jun 23, 2024 14:50:10 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 23, 2024 16:00:35 GMT 1
I'm going for Reform purely as a protest against Sunak and the possibility of Starmergeddon. So if you’re in Shrewsbury (I don’t know) that’s as good as a vote for MK in my opinion. Only two can possibly win Shrewsbury so people protesting by voting UKIP simply waste the vote. If anyone’s worried about Starmer in charge surely surely they wouldn’t prefer Farage who 1. Applauded Liz Truss’s disastrous budget and 2. Still supports Trump? It’s very easy to appeal to the electorate with your ‘contract’ if you know you’ll never have to implement it. (note my opinion) |
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Post by suttonshrew on Jun 23, 2024 16:41:10 GMT 1
i think everyone knows where i stand, but labour will scrap the NWRR, will take the RSH development back to stage 1 and don't seem to have a plan for the town redevelopment...... that's why ill be voting Conservative, to protect nearly £1b of investment for the town. Unfortunaly Sean Davies links to Starmer will mean we become overlooked in favour of Telford for everything and Julia will just be asked to hold the fort
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Post by Pilch on Jun 23, 2024 16:44:21 GMT 1
I'm going for Reform purely as a protest against Sunak and the possibility of Starmergeddon. So if you’re in Shrewsbury (I don’t know) that’s as good as a vote for MK in my opinion. Only two can possibly win Shrewsbury so people protesting by voting UKIP simply waste the vote. If anyone’s worried about Starmer in charge surely surely they wouldn’t prefer Farage who 1. Applauded Liz Truss’s disastrous budget and 2. Still supports Trump? It’s very easy to appeal to the electorate with your ‘contract’ if you know you’ll never have to implement it. (note my opinion) maybe we should support someone like rotherham next season, no point supporting the town is there, we are not going to win anything ;-) |
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 23, 2024 16:59:07 GMT 1
So if you’re in Shrewsbury (I don’t know) that’s as good as a vote for MK in my opinion. Only two can possibly win Shrewsbury so people protesting by voting UKIP simply waste the vote. If anyone’s worried about Starmer in charge surely surely they wouldn’t prefer Farage who 1. Applauded Liz Truss’s disastrous budget and 2. Still supports Trump? It’s very easy to appeal to the electorate with your ‘contract’ if you know you’ll never have to implement it. (note my opinion) maybe we should support someone like rotherham next season, no point supporting the town is there, we are not going to win anything ;-) Thing is Rotherham are in a 24 horse race voting in Shrewsbury’s down to a two horse race…. I’d support Rotherham if them beating someone helped us 👍 |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 23, 2024 17:07:56 GMT 1
Choosing between Sunak and Starmer is like choosing between Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville to babysit your kids. Wow. It really isn't anything like that. What strange imagery there. All metaphorical if course. Just showing that just as you wouldnt want to chose either Harris or Saville there is no good choise between Sunak or Starmer either. Both equally as bad in both cases. |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 23, 2024 17:14:14 GMT 1
maybe we should support someone like rotherham next season, no point supporting the town is there, we are not going to win anything ;-) Thing is Rotherham are in a 24 horse race voting in Shrewsbury’s down to a two horse race…. I’d support Rotherham if them beating someone helped us 👍 over the years voting in shrewsbury has been a one horse race, did you ever go anyway and back the loser knowing they were gong to lose ? |
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 23, 2024 17:19:59 GMT 1
Thing is Rotherham are in a 24 horse race voting in Shrewsbury’s down to a two horse race…. I’d support Rotherham if them beating someone helped us 👍 over the years voting in shrewsbury has been a one horse race, did you ever go anyway and back the loser knowing they were gong to lose ? If I thought voting for a party I didn’t support would get rid of the sitting MP I’d tactically vote. Thats all I’m saying, in Shrewsbury the choice is vote for Labour or keep DK… I saw the light and moved to Telford which is about to become the promised land according to Sutton 😂 |
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Post by gtismygod on Jun 23, 2024 17:29:59 GMT 1
I'm going for Reform purely as a protest against Sunak and the possibility of Starmergeddon. So if you’re in Shrewsbury (I don’t know) that’s as good as a vote for MK in my opinion. Only two can possibly win Shrewsbury so people protesting by voting UKIP simply waste the vote. If anyone’s worried about Starmer in charge surely surely they wouldn’t prefer Farage who 1. Applauded Liz Truss’s disastrous budget and 2. Still supports Trump? It’s very easy to appeal to the electorate with your ‘contract’ if you know you’ll never have to implement it. (note my opinion) Not sure Farage’s good relationship with Trump can be used as a stick to beat him with. Trump will be the next President, and us having a PM who has a good relationship with him would be surely be a good thing? Not that Farage could ever realistically become PM of course. |
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Post by Pilch on Jun 23, 2024 17:34:23 GMT 1
over the years voting in shrewsbury has been a one horse race, did you ever go anyway and back the loser knowing they were gong to lose ? If I thought voting for a party I didn’t support would get rid of the sitting MP I’d tactically vote. Thats all I’m saying, in Shrewsbury the choice is vote for Labour or keep DK… I saw the light and moved to Telford which is about to become the promised land according to Sutton 😂 is tactical voting a bit like tactical debating ? where you agree with someone, not because they are right, but because you dont like the person they are debating with ? I think I've seen that somewhere but cant remember where  every man for themselves I say, vote for who you want to win |
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Post by servernaside on Jun 23, 2024 17:50:25 GMT 1
For once Shropshire looks like it could be a swing county - but it will call for some tactical voting. Shrewsbury - a two horse race between Conservative and Labour - if you are against the Tories (and even local Tories seem to be against Kawcysnki who is famed as being tall, unpleasantly arrogant, not very bright, never present in his constituency, and so effective that in 19 years he has never been given a position of responsibility by his own party), then you need to get behind Labour to make sure that Kawcynski does not continue on his gravy train. South Shropshire - a two horse race between Conservative and LibDem - if you want to oust the Tories then Matt Greene is the man and you will know that your vote has gone to a nice local bloke who will do a good job as your local MP. I know that many of us know Matt - let's hope he gets in so that we have someone decent representing us. Wrekin - a two horse race between the Tories and Labour - if you want Pritchard out (and who wouldn't - read his wiki) then you need to vote Labour. North Shropshire - Helen Morgan has done a damn good job, cannot see anyone wanting her gone as their MP - just shows you what a difference it makes to have someone good in the role. No bias in this posting then. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Jun 23, 2024 18:18:06 GMT 1
Alex Wagner looks like he's still in school 🤣
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