PHBA
Midland League Division Two
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 14:06:10 GMT 1
How long do we think Micky Moore will be a part of the setup at Salop? I DO NOT personally think the players he's sourced have justified his role, plus PH has a very good record at identifying good signings.
Will he be here next season and beyond?
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Feb 29, 2024 14:09:58 GMT 1
Think he'll go at the end of the season. Seems surplus to requirements now.
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Post by belfastshrew on Feb 29, 2024 14:11:29 GMT 1
2028
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Post by jamo on Feb 29, 2024 14:28:58 GMT 1
I’m highly amused by the statement that, ‘ the players he has sourced have justified his role’
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 29, 2024 14:32:16 GMT 1
I think his remit goes beyond the first team squad so even if he might not bring players in that make an immediate impact he might bring about some success in the long term (as in getting players in that we can develop, start and then sell on). Not saying how long he will be with us, mind. But just thought I would mention it.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 29, 2024 14:34:38 GMT 1
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Post by gtismygod on Feb 29, 2024 14:34:52 GMT 1
Which players have justified his role? Sraha looks a good signing, but that single promising signing is offset by numerous other costly mistakes. I also like Perry, but appreciate that others don’t.
Surely, we aren’t giving him any credit for Winchester are we?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 29, 2024 14:37:23 GMT 1
Which players have justified his role? Sraha looks a good signing, but that single promising signing is offset by numerous other costly mistakes. I also like Perry, but appreciate that others don’t. Surely, we aren’t giving him any credit for Winchester are we? Carl Winchester, Elliott Bennett and Aaron Pierre were all excellent gems unearthed by our new director of football and head of recruitment.
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PHBA
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 14:39:22 GMT 1
I’m highly amused by the statement that, ‘ the players he has sourced have justified his role’ Whoops! I'd written it differently before, and it didn't make sense, so changed it before posting, now it makes even less sense! I'll amend....again!
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PHBA
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 14:39:54 GMT 1
Which players have justified his role? Sraha looks a good signing, but that single promising signing is offset by numerous other costly mistakes. I also like Perry, but appreciate that others don’t. Surely, we aren’t giving him any credit for Winchester are we? Carl Winchester, Elliott Bennett and Aaron Pierre were all excellent gems unearthed by our new director of football and head of recruitment. Apologies, see edited post, they clearly haven't 😂
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Post by servernaside on Feb 29, 2024 14:40:14 GMT 1
With the appointment of Hurst & Doig, I'm not sure what MM brings to the table.
It's another salary to pay and I think Hurst can source players just as well if not better.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 14:46:53 GMT 1
did town lose this week or something ? 🤡
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PHBA
Midland League Division Two
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 15:02:21 GMT 1
did town lose this week or something ? 🤡 To be honest Pilch, this is something I've wondered since PH and CD came back, the recruitment isn't a fantastic testament to his abilities. If you canvassed fans, how many of his signings would be in their top 3? ..not many. I just wondered if folk thought the regime was going to be persevered with or not, especially given as mooted above thst Hurst has previous in successful player identification. But I probably wouldn't have asked had we won 😂😂
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Post by vladimir on Feb 29, 2024 15:07:26 GMT 1
Club can save 6 figures by bringing in a head of recruitment similar to Henshall when he was in post with Hurst last time and jettison Moore and his sidekick.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 15:10:15 GMT 1
exactly ,
We are the Shrewsbury we cry when we lose 😢
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Post by Dan F on Feb 29, 2024 15:12:57 GMT 1
Fits right in. Roland seems to be happy financing...
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Post by suttonshrew on Feb 29, 2024 15:22:50 GMT 1
All depends on what his remit is now tbh. I can’t see PH wanting much input into players he wants in the summer he will have his own ideas and contacts and ultimately he won’t want someone else making decisions that affect his future at the club… who would!!
Personally I think MM will probably go, recruitment hasn’t been great let’s be honest but is that down to restraints caused by SC last season? Either way he looks a little surplus to requirements unless his remit is changed dramatically
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 15:26:18 GMT 1
I think Moore should sign haaland from city , £5000 transfer fee , 2k a week And if he sneaks in a clause or two in the small print of the small print that city get £10m a game , and haaland £5m a goal it might just get past the main man until the invoices arrive 🙄
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 29, 2024 15:49:26 GMT 1
All depends on what his remit is now tbh. I can’t see PH wanting much input into players he wants in the summer he will have his own ideas and contacts and ultimately he won’t want someone else making decisions that affect his future at the club… who would!! Personally I think MM will probably go, recruitment hasn’t been great let’s be honest but is that down to restraints caused by SC last season? Either way he looks a little surplus to requirements unless his remit is changed dramatically Sensible post, it's good to have an adult conversation about these things and put points back and forth, as opposed to some of the childish responses. Sraha & Sobawale are about the best of his recruitment, which doesn't say much as they're both very raw. We've spent fees on three lads from Ireland, all of which aren't getting a look in. Money we don't have, allegedly. It's hard to make a case for keeping Moore & his pals.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 29, 2024 16:00:58 GMT 1
exactly , We are the Shrewsbury we cry when we lose 😢 "We are football fans, we comment on the situation of the club when we've just put in an uncceptable performance to leave us just above the relegation zone". Admittedly, not as catchy as yours
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 29, 2024 16:08:52 GMT 1
When the vultures circle they don't half set up some threads about your future. Seems this board always has to have a "target".
A totally new way of working and it's not even been given a year before getting a thumbs down.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Feb 29, 2024 16:16:12 GMT 1
All depends on what his remit is now tbh. I can’t see PH wanting much input into players he wants in the summer he will have his own ideas and contacts and ultimately he won’t want someone else making decisions that affect his future at the club… who would!! Personally I think MM will probably go, recruitment hasn’t been great let’s be honest but is that down to restraints caused by SC last season? Either way he looks a little surplus to requirements unless his remit is changed dramatically Sensible post, it's good to have an adult conversation about these things and put points back and forth, as opposed to some of the childish responses. Sraha & Sobawale are about the best of his recruitment, which doesn't say much as they're both very raw. We've spent fees on three lads from Ireland, all of which aren't getting a look in. Money we don't have, allegedly. It's hard to make a case for keeping Moore & his pals. We will soon know how bad the financial situation was/still is when the annual accounts get published. In the meantime, the 2 transfer windows have been far from inspiring, overall. Within this I include our use of the loan market as well. We have signed some work in progress players, whether or not they turn out to be good enough remains to be seen. Do we continue to scour the Irish leagues is a question that only Moore and his team can answer. I personally think that Moore will still be with us come next season and probably beyond, but there are so many ifs and buts it's hard to say for sure, as questions remain about the future ownership of our club.
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PHBA
Midland League Division Two
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 16:24:53 GMT 1
When the vultures circle they don't half set up some threads about your future. Seems this board always has to have a "target". A totally new way of working and it's not even been given a year before getting a thumbs down. But the "vultures" are circling on the basis that the recruitment thus far hasn't been satisfactory, MT has gone because he wasn't performing, and he wasn't given a year. This is football, we're football fans, if it isn't working straight away, we all question if it's the right route....especially on forums such as this which is kinda the point of the place....to discuss thoughts on how things are going.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 16:41:10 GMT 1
exactly , We are the Shrewsbury we cry when we lose 😢 "We are football fans, we comment on the situation of the club when we've just put in an uncceptable performance to leave us just above the relegation zone". Admittedly, not as catchy as yours some are unrealistic most of the time though, 3 points from trips to Reading & Lincoln was a massive positive, some spat their dummies out the second Reading made it 2-2 on saturday, they said nothing when we were winning, and its not a one off its embarrassing really
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 29, 2024 16:45:29 GMT 1
When the vultures circle they don't half set up some threads about your future. Seems this board always has to have a "target". A totally new way of working and it's not even been given a year before getting a thumbs down. But the "vultures" are circling on the basis that the recruitment thus far hasn't been satisfactory, MT has gone because he wasn't performing, and he wasn't given a year. This is football, we're football fans, if it isn't working straight away, we all question if it's the right route....especially on forums such as this which is kinda the point of the place....to discuss thoughts on how things are going. It's the relentless nature of it. Thread after thread, post after post. I got the point being made hundreds of posts ago.
First rule of working in football, never read social media comments, if you did then you would surely be found on the railway line behind the ground. I assume most of the comments are from people who don't have to face such a barrage in their jobs?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 16:50:09 GMT 1
When the vultures circle they don't half set up some threads about your future. Seems this board always has to have a "target". A totally new way of working and it's not even been given a year before getting a thumbs down. circling vultures is a great analogy , I might use that
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 29, 2024 16:50:53 GMT 1
some are unrealistic most of the time though, 3 points from trips to Reading & Lincoln was a massive positive, some spat their dummies out the second Reading made it 2-2 on saturday, they said nothing when we were winning, and its not a one off its embarrassing really Out of interest, what do you consider unrealistic/embarrassing? Below are the quotes from our manager on our official website, if he's saying that then is it any surprise that fans are complaining? "We were second best from start to finish" "I feel sorry for the fans that travelled" "That is the type of performance for me that is unacceptable" "A kind of tough night but I'm almost embarrassed"
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 29, 2024 16:52:16 GMT 1
"We are football fans, we comment on the situation of the club when we've just put in an uncceptable performance to leave us just above the relegation zone". Admittedly, not as catchy as yours some are unrealistic most of the time though, 3 points from trips to Reading & Lincoln was a massive positive, some spat their dummies out the second Reading made it 2-2 on saturday, they said nothing when we were winning, and its not a one off its embarrassing really There was a grand total of four posts in between Reading equalising and us re-taking the lead, hardly dummies out just some frustration. And Pughy and Valerioch both posted when we were winning too, so is your generalisation of fans aimed at one specific?… Well we’ve blown that ffs Goal out of nothing but our own fault for sitting so deep and playing it long at every opportunity. Poor game management from town. Hopefully we will start playing again now. bugger only see one team winning this What are we doing? You go 2 up in 5 minutes then it's the Sunday league stuff, keep it tight, see it out to HT, organise and go again.
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PHBA
Midland League Division Two
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 16:55:02 GMT 1
But the "vultures" are circling on the basis that the recruitment thus far hasn't been satisfactory, MT has gone because he wasn't performing, and he wasn't given a year. This is football, we're football fans, if it isn't working straight away, we all question if it's the right route....especially on forums such as this which is kinda the point of the place....to discuss thoughts on how things are going. It's the relentless nature of it. Thread after thread, post after post. I got the point being made hundreds of posts ago.
First rule of working in football, never read social media comments, if you did then you would surely be found on the railway line behind the ground. I assume most of the comments are from people who don't have to face such a barrage in their jobs?
Maybe you need to educate me on forum/social media etiquette then before I post anything further to gauge opinion and try to generate a little bit of discussion? Is there a ratio I have to adhere to? Will it suffice if I started a topic saying what a bloody nice chap Elliot Bennett is? What jobs anyone has done is irrelevant, if he didn't want to have his abilities questioned on a football message board, then maybe Football isn't for him, this place is basically a digital version of chats that happen on the concourse, down the local etc.
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PHBA
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Post by PHBA on Feb 29, 2024 16:57:47 GMT 1
I think his remit goes beyond the first team squad so even if he might not bring players in that make an immediate impact he might bring about some success in the long term (as in getting players in that we can develop, start and then sell on). Not saying how long he will be with us, mind. But just thought I would mention it. I think that's a large part of his remit tbh 👍... Identifying cheap youngsters to develop and sell on, with that in mind...it Is early to judge, but...with Mata being an example of the remit....that's a fail at present
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