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Post by akpaakpost on Jan 21, 2024 17:34:52 GMT 1
He also said he had faith in him. Do we really believe anything he says? To be fair he’d face a lot more criticism if he told everyone he doesn’t think MT is good enough and has got the Peterborough game to save his job.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 21, 2024 17:34:59 GMT 1
He also said he had faith in him. Do we really believe anything he says? What was he meant to say? “Matt’s crap. I’m sick of him. And he’ll be sacked if lose at Peterboro on Saturday.”
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Post by secretshrew on Jan 21, 2024 17:36:12 GMT 1
I’m thinking that whoever wants to take over wants a clean sheet to work with and not baggage to pay for. This way Wycherley will get his money and we will get an owner who can get the club back on its feet. If the Greenhouse owner comes back the cost of salop is a drop in the ocean for him and we will get a decent manager and a board hopefully. I might be wrong, but I’m guessing this is where having a DOF and new head coach works well in terms of not having to press the reset button with the entire playing & coaching staff 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 21, 2024 17:37:26 GMT 1
Something along the lines of he’s working hard and we are hoping he can turn it around would have been more honest.
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Post by camdenshrew on Jan 21, 2024 17:38:10 GMT 1
Farewell Matt, we never did blow anybody after all. As others have said, he is a decent guy who was impeded by injuries, poor recruitment and a formation he was never really comfortable with.
Having said that, I think this is the right decision. A terrible goal tally both for and against and the performances on the whole have been awful, even during some of our wins. You can't keep conceding so much possession during games and expect things to change.
Let's hope Moore doesn't take another three weeks to identify the replacement although I suspect our version of Little and Large are on their way back, courtesy of the chairman. If so, let's get behind them from the off because we are now in a relegation scrap.
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Post by darkshrew on Jan 21, 2024 17:38:24 GMT 1
Classic Roland move.
The heat starts to rise on Roland himself as it goes public that his antics (in trying to squeeze the last drop of money he can as well as stay on in some capacity) mess up a potentially great deal for the club.
What does Roland do ?
Move the attention to something else; if he really needs to ratchet up the noise, then appoint Hurst which will get the fans arguing amongst themselves.
Give it 6 weeks and the failed takeover and Delves departure become old news and he is in the clear again.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 17:44:41 GMT 1
Something along the lines of he’s working hard and we are hoping he can turn it around would have been more honest. he did say a few positives and also he wasnt doing enough and has told him exactly that, but when someone posed the question " do you have faith in matt". there is only one answer, its like the famously 'quickly Kevin will he score"
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Post by MartinB on Jan 21, 2024 17:46:39 GMT 1
Whatever the rights and wrongs were of Paul Hurst's departure, I will always be grateful for one of the best seasons in over 60 years of following the Town. What's readily forgotten, is his achievement in steadying the ship when first appointed. He inherited a far worse squad than is currently in place (full of "league one ready" players, and a dressing room "full of captains") and performed miracles in keeping us up. If the rumours are to be believed, then I'm sure that a team with structure and balance, with a system that suits the abilities of the players at his disposal, will soon follow. Oddly Hurst didn't actually start that well when he joined us as his first 10 games we W3 D2 L5 which was the same return Mellon had in his last 10 games, it was really the next set of ten games that the results picked up where we won 6, drew 3 and lost 1 In the loan window he brought in Tyler Roberts, Toto Nisala, Rodman, Bryn Morris and Ladapo and Payne which really helped us kick on and improve results. Assuming he is apponted again we'd all settle for that kind of turn around again. Just wonder how much scope there is to get 3-4 loan players in, as I'm not sure bringing the best out of the squad we have is necessarily his strong point Hurst's start was actually amazing as he had something like 13 games before he could bring in any players and we had some rea; dross at that time. He managed to keep us in touch with the other teams before bringing in better players
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 17:46:48 GMT 1
Classic Roland move. The heat starts to rise on Roland himself as it goes public that his antics (in trying to squeeze the last drop of money he can as well as stay on in some capacity) mess up a potentially great deal for the club. What does Roland do ? Move the attention to something else; if he really needs to ratchet up the noise, then appoint Hurst which will get the fans arguing amongst themselves. Give it 6 weeks and the failed takeover and Delves departure become old news and he is in the clear again. how bizarre, what should he have done instead ? this is a case of damned if he does damned if he doesnt there is no win with some fans next you'll be blaming him for selling to the wrong new owners if that doesnt go well
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jan 21, 2024 17:53:50 GMT 1
Farewell Matt, we never did blow anybody after all. As others have said, he is a decent guy who was impeded by injuries, poor recruitment and a formation he was never really comfortable with. Having said that, I think this is the right decision. A terrible goal tally both for and against and the performances on the whole have been awful, even during some of our wins. You can't keep conceding so much possession during games and expect things to change. Let's hope Moore doesn't take another three weeks to identify the replacement although I suspect our version of Little and Large are on their way back, courtesy of the chairman. If so, let's get behind them from the off because we are now in a relegation scrap. Actually, your first sentence is correct, we definitely “sucked” on more than one occasion!
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Post by edgmond on Jan 21, 2024 18:11:08 GMT 1
If Hurst and Doig are really returning, does anyone know about the availability of Godfrey, Henderson and Morris?
Understandably there are lots of mentions of Nsiala, Rodman, Ogogo and Nolan but those three loans were absolute masterstrokes and I can’t see lightning striking twice at the Meadow.
Does anyone know how Shaun Whalley is getting on with his badges?
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Post by edgmond on Jan 21, 2024 18:19:06 GMT 1
Absolutely certain I will be in the wrong here but I liked Mat Taylor. I wish him every success and I hope that one day he will open up and let us know what a can of worms was in the back room. I allude to big knob and to a lesser extent pariah. What support did matt really have. I don't think Flanagan helped either Whoever comes in should be settling up Flanagan’s contract if we can’t offload him in the window. Whatever your feelings about the set up, you keep them in-house or clear off. We have enough centre backs not to miss him.
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Post by bertofold on Jan 21, 2024 18:19:59 GMT 1
Gavin Cowan has/is doing well at Brackley. It’s probably a bit soon for the large jump the L1. Maybe one for the future? After Hurst jumps ship again or gets the sack ;-)
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Post by mattmw on Jan 21, 2024 18:22:36 GMT 1
Oddly Hurst didn't actually start that well when he joined us as his first 10 games we W3 D2 L5 which was the same return Mellon had in his last 10 games, it was really the next set of ten games that the results picked up where we won 6, drew 3 and lost 1 In the loan window he brought in Tyler Roberts, Toto Nisala, Rodman, Bryn Morris and Ladapo and Payne which really helped us kick on and improve results. Assuming he is apponted again we'd all settle for that kind of turn around again. Just wonder how much scope there is to get 3-4 loan players in, as I'm not sure bringing the best out of the squad we have is necessarily his strong point Hurst's start was actually amazing as he had something like 13 games before he could bring in any players and we had some rea; dross at that time. He managed to keep us in touch with the other teams before bringing in better players His first ten games or so were quite up and down. He took over with us in 23rd and drew away at Southend and then won at home v Oxford, then lost 2 away games and we had a draw at home to Vale which I recall was pretty dreadful. We then won 2 before loosing three in a row at Christmas and dropped back down to 23rd again after the new year loss to Fleetwood when the team got booed off. As you say the real bounce came between January and February with the new signings when we got 6 wins in ten games, but then lost 4 in a row in late March again Thats why I'd hope he has scope to make a few signings as if we're reliant on him turning the current crop of players into a more than they are now I'm not really sure thats in his locker. Looking back I think one of the first things Hurst did was end the loan of Ivan Toney saying his attitude wasn't right, so its slightly odd timing that Toney is just making his Premier league comeback just as Hurst appears to be about to return with us.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 21, 2024 18:25:17 GMT 1
If Hurst doesn't come back what about Dave Edwards till end of the season? Not possible without coaching badges, can't just appoint anyone as a manager/coach these days. There is a team in in France, Rheims who appointed Will Still as coach whose only experience was FM, he's doing so well they 20k euros fine every game he is in charge. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64554492Only experience was football manager is just a clickbait headline that was banded around. He's been in coaching/analysis for all his adult life. incomparable to chucking the job to an ex player with no coaching experience at all
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 21, 2024 18:29:07 GMT 1
My observations was that Taylor was just Moore's puppet, we should sack Moore, I hope Taylor gets a chance at a lower league to show what he can do Whether or not he was a puppet, his lack of experience showed. Anywhere in the EFL now is very tough and you won't get time. He didn't seemed to have enough ideas about how to actually change the momentum in a game and his main tactic after his first few games was just to sit back and chance a lucky goal. Think he needs to head back to youth football. His two efforts so far haven't really worked
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jan 21, 2024 18:29:35 GMT 1
Classic Roland move. The heat starts to rise on Roland himself as it goes public that his antics (in trying to squeeze the last drop of money he can as well as stay on in some capacity) mess up a potentially great deal for the club. What does Roland do ? Move the attention to something else; if he really needs to ratchet up the noise, then appoint Hurst which will get the fans arguing amongst themselves. Give it 6 weeks and the failed takeover and Delves departure become old news and he is in the clear again. how bizarre, what should he have done instead ? this is a case of damned if he does damned if he doesnt there is no win with some fans next you'll be blaming him for selling to the wrong new owners if that doesnt go well And don't forget climate change, RW has not been blamed for that yet..
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 21, 2024 18:41:18 GMT 1
how bizarre, what should he have done instead ? this is a case of damned if he does damned if he doesnt there is no win with some fans next you'll be blaming him for selling to the wrong new owners if that doesnt go well And don't forget climate change, RW has not been blamed for that yet.. He's too busy researching star signs.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 21, 2024 19:18:06 GMT 1
TWOTS is that Hurst and Doig are in talks to take over. Ah, but TWOTS is also saying that MM is pushing for Michael Duff (ex Cheltenham of course) to take over in order to safeguard his position. Whereas if Hurst and Doig take over, he's toast, as they don't want a DOF.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 21, 2024 19:22:31 GMT 1
Despite having misgivings over the DoF position, if Wycherley gets rid of it to appease whoever the new manager would be, it’d be an absolute farce on his behalf. Surely he can’t be that knee-jerk?
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Post by camdenshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:09:37 GMT 1
Isn't Taylor the second manager we've sacked after losing away at Peterborough? Wasn't Jake King the first after a 4-1 drubbing?
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Post by gobowenshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:10:42 GMT 1
Isn't Taylor the second manager we've sacked after losing away at Peterborough? Wasn't Jake King the first after a 4-1 drubbing? Ricketts. Think that one was 5-1.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:17:37 GMT 1
Think it'll be Hurst or duff myself
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:44:09 GMT 1
Sorry folks, can't be bothered to scour the threads...anyone know who Jamo thinks new coach will be??
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Post by shrewshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:47:35 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 21:15:13 GMT 1
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 21, 2024 21:22:03 GMT 1
"We were good without the ball but couldn't score a goal. I didn't win a game for 10 games! We changed from 4–4–2 to 3–5–2 and we are now completely expansive in terms of our level. There are teams that do try and play football and we are one of them." —Duff on his tactical switch during his first season at Cheltenham. He absolutely loves a 3-5-2 as well by the sounds of it. Starting to look like a shoe-in.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jan 21, 2024 21:23:03 GMT 1
Is Matt Sadler off limits?
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Post by TonyKellysBelly on Jan 21, 2024 21:36:18 GMT 1
Matt Sadler would be a good choice amongst fans. The dilemma is that we have recently gone with 2 inexperienced previous Managers in Sam Ricketts and Matt Taylor who both failed. All along what was missing for them was some experience alongside them
Still questions many will be asking is, by sacking Matt Taylor have we solved the problem? Will Paul Hurst work with a DOF? What the board strategy for either investment from the current board or brining in outside investment
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 21:49:26 GMT 1
Is Matt Sadler off limits? for me the timing is bad for matt sadler, start of the season would have been good, but now seems to have so much in common with Taylor they might as well be twins ;-) ;-)
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