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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 12:58:05 GMT 1
and Rochdale, oh and Oldham as well... and telford , chester , wrexham , reading, man united, West Brom, Sunderland, Leeds, derby, Newcastle, google it, the list is endless Which shows that clubs come up for sale across the football pyramid. I mentioned Rochdale & Oldham in particular as they have been bought by local supporters, who have a true passion for their local club. Interestingly, Oldham Rugby League club have also been bought by a local businessman and they have had an excellent season, having clinched promotion last Sunday. |
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Aug 21, 2024 13:02:19 GMT 1
I would imagine the reason we're playing with such a small squad and operating on a shoestring is Roland doesn't want to put anymore money in to the club as he's trying to sell.
I do genuinely believe he's trying to sell but the optics are terrible - increase ticket costs, reduce the quality in the squad, probably get relegated and expect fans to still keep turning up out of blind loyalty?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 13:14:34 GMT 1
Is it time to give this thread a test?
Do we all agree Roland is trying to sell?
The CEO is presumably tasked with making the club look an attractive asset.
Let them get on with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 13:23:06 GMT 1
Is it time to give this thread a test? Do we all agree Roland is trying to sell? The CEO is presumably tasked with making the club look an attractive asset. let them get on with it. It's quite simple really, as long as we are told we are for sale but remain in the hands of Roland then people will speculate. Then as long as Roland stays silent on the matter then there will be even more speculation. And when we are struggling on the pitch then speculation will grow even stronger. As for 'letting them get on with it', I don't think anyone we are doing here is stopping them from doing it. |
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Aug 21, 2024 13:34:58 GMT 1
Is it time to give this thread a test? Do we all agree Roland is trying to sell? The CEO is presumably tasked with making the club look an attractive asset. Let them get on with it. Hard to let them get on with it when it's affecting us on the field so much, no? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 13:49:09 GMT 1
Is it time to give this thread a test? Do we all agree Roland is trying to sell? The CEO is presumably tasked with making the club look an attractive asset. let them get on with it. It's quite simple really, as long as we are told we are for sale but remain in the hands of Roland then people will speculate. Then as long as Roland stays silent on the matter then there will be even more speculation. And when we are struggling on the pitch then speculation will grow even stronger. As for 'letting them get on with it', I don't think anyone we are doing here is stopping them from doing it. Although, conversely, nothing we are saying on here is actually doing any good. Speculation yes, but posts about the past intentions of those who bought Burton, with the occasional Roland must go now post? |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 21, 2024 13:50:23 GMT 1
Who knows. Hence the "who knows".  But anyhow, you have to wonder and question why we have not yet found a buyer. but you asked that exact question to someone the other day and got answer and yet here you are asking again and creating unknown conspiracies and rambling on about swedes who messed us about 4 times move on, youve had all the answers so far You're all over the shop here. You are referring here to the Nordic group. But that is just one interested party. But anyhow, let focus on that again. So why was the final offer refused? Because they had messed us around previously? Were they able to prove that they had the necessary funds to complete the purchase of Town? Was it just enough to buy the club but with no further funds to invest? Is that why the offer was declined? As they clearly had, at the very least, the funds to buy Burton because they did do. If you are referring to what dibbly posted early, when he posts... Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along.Why did we refuse the final offer? Was it something to do with trust? The funds available? Other conditions included within the purchase? Did Burton accept before we did? What? But anyhow, that's just one interested party. What about others? What about those other "irons in the fire"? As my post above was not specific about any one approach. So what going on there? What happened to those negotiations? Are they they still ongoing, are they dead? If the latter, why? What happened? I must have missed the answer to that, maybe I did, can you point it out to me? As far as I can see the only answer I got from that question was unknown conspiracies and rambling on about swedes being rogues. Or are you saying we have we only been approach by one group, the Nordic group, and the other "irons in the fire" is incorrect? |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 21, 2024 13:53:03 GMT 1
**** me its Groundhog Day
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 14:07:34 GMT 1
**** me its Groundhog Day That's a No and a Yes 😂 |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 21, 2024 14:11:41 GMT 1
**** me its Groundhog Day That's a No and a Yes 😂 I didnt even bother reading it, its just going over the same s**t time and time again |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 21, 2024 14:33:35 GMT 1
Iv no idea what is the truth behind any of the groups trying to purchase town.
But looking at last season and the start of this any potential owner would look at current state of the club and it is a mess and it is stagnating.
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With regards to selling the club]You have to be careful what you wish for
I would hope we can find an owner who has an interest in the club and looks at a sustainable way of running it.
This clubs needs to be sold and the sooner the better
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 21, 2024 15:04:30 GMT 1
That's good to read. At least I won't have to deal with people who just keep posting the same s**t time and time again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 16:35:23 GMT 1
It's quite simple really, as long as we are told we are for sale but remain in the hands of Roland then people will speculate. Then as long as Roland stays silent on the matter then there will be even more speculation. And when we are struggling on the pitch then speculation will grow even stronger. As for 'letting them get on with it', I don't think anyone we are doing here is stopping them from doing it. Although, conversely, nothing we are saying on here is actually doing any good. Isn't that the case for 99% of posts on this board and probably any board? Who said we expect a post on here to do anything (good or bad)? I see this as a virtual pub where we give our opinions/thoughts on things, the fact is we've had a poor start and we have a dark cloud over our head until Roland sells. To not dicuss it would be baffling, well to me at least. I appreciate for some people that it may be a boring subject but in that case I probably would recommend you don't go on a thread titled 'Is it time for Roland to go'. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 16:44:32 GMT 1
Although, conversely, nothing we are saying on here is actually doing any good. Isn't that the case for 99% of posts on this board and probably any board? Who said we expect a post on here to do anything (good or bad)? I see this as a virtual pub where we give our opinions/thoughts on things, the fact is we've had a poor start and we have a dark cloud over our head until Roland sells. To not dicuss it would be baffling, well to me at least. I appreciate for some people that it may be a boring subject but in that case I probably would recommend you don't go on a thread titled 'Is it time for Roland to go'. I agree, it would be baffling not to discuss the sale of our club. But the part of my post that you didn't see fit to quote was: 'Speculation yes, but posts about the past intentions of those who bought Burton, with the occasional Roland must go now post?' |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 21, 2024 18:11:39 GMT 1
I would imagine the reason we're playing with such a small squad and operating on a shoestring is Roland doesn't want to put anymore money in to the club as he's trying to sell. I do genuinely believe he's trying to sell but the optics are terrible - increase ticket costs, reduce the quality in the squad, probably get relegated and expect fans to still keep turning up out of blind loyalty? Think this is pretty much bang on, sadly. I don't know all that much about what's been going on with regards to potential takeovers that may or may not have fallen through, and I take with a pinch of salt the selective readings and tidbits of gossip passed onto here from both pro and anti-Roland people. But whatever's happened in the past, this is where we are now. For all his faults and the fact even if he were to invest a lot by his standards it would probably only take us to lower-mid table budget-wise, I can't believe that until recently Roland wouldn't have been putting in a bit of money to at least get us up to a level of competing for safety. As it is, he clearly doesn't want to, and we're left with a defence that I reckon might get relegated from L2 and a squad that's falling apart at the seams before we're even into September. It's all just very depressing, and if we do fall into L2 I think the mood could turn sour fairly quickly. |
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Post by servernaside on Aug 21, 2024 18:57:03 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 21, 2024 19:12:58 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. we dont need to lose for that to happen, just going a goal behind seems to work for some  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 19:35:02 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. Expectation for this game is pretty low I would have thought so perhaps we wont see the cascade that you suggest. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 21:06:33 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. I’ll be ready and waiting don’t you worry. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 21:09:01 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. Expectation for this game is pretty low I would have thought so perhaps we wont see the cascade that you suggest. Perhaps we'll win? Well, maybe draw. Hurst will have them fired up, not that our lads will need firing up against the mighty Huddersfield. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 21, 2024 21:32:24 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. I’ll be ready and waiting don’t you worry. I can imagine some are ready and excited rant already drafted up, finger hovering over the 'create post' button waiting for us to concede FGR sub board in 2nd tab on the off chance they manage a rare win one eye on Burton too teddy at the ready ;-) |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 21, 2024 22:33:33 GMT 1
I’ll be ready and waiting don’t you worry. I can imagine some are ready and excited rant already drafted up, finger hovering over the 'create post' button waiting for us to concede FGR sub board in 2nd tab on the off chance they manage a rare win one eye on Burton too teddy at the ready ;-) Mention teddies and I am always reminded of Atcham Jack, wonder what happened to those two, Roland and ? Those teddies would have stuck by the club through thick and thin. |
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 22, 2024 0:23:35 GMT 1
I would imagine the reason we're playing with such a small squad and operating on a shoestring is Roland doesn't want to put anymore money in to the club as he's trying to sell. I do genuinely believe he's trying to sell but the optics are terrible - increase ticket costs, reduce the quality in the squad, probably get relegated and expect fans to still keep turning up out of blind loyalty? Think this is pretty much bang on, sadly. I don't know all that much about what's been going on with regards to potential takeovers that may or may not have fallen through, and I take with a pinch of salt the selective readings and tidbits of gossip passed onto here from both pro and anti-Roland people. But whatever's happened in the past, this is where we are now. For all his faults and the fact even if he were to invest a lot by his standards it would probably only take us to lower-mid table budget-wise, I can't believe that until recently Roland wouldn't have been putting in a bit of money to at least get us up to a level of competing for safety. As it is, he clearly doesn't want to, and we're left with a defence that I reckon might get relegated from L2 and a squad that's falling apart at the seams before we're even into September. It's all just very depressing, and if we do fall into L2 I think the mood could turn sour fairly quickly. Great post. For someone whose a fan of the club though and in his eighties, if he really cared about this football club wouldn’t he invest and put some money in this season to ensure we do survive comfortably and hand over to a fresh face? The fact is Roland has only ever once put his hand in his pocket backing Paul Simpson and getting us Holt, Murray and Coughlan; one of which was sold to Norwich, and we probably profited from that investment even though we lost the play off final as Holt departed for half a million. Everything in the club screams of Roland pulling the plug on any personal investment for years which signals to us as fans he’s relaxed about whether we get relegated as long as Roland in the end gets a nice profit on his investment. |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 22, 2024 14:06:42 GMT 1
Think this is pretty much bang on, sadly. I don't know all that much about what's been going on with regards to potential takeovers that may or may not have fallen through, and I take with a pinch of salt the selective readings and tidbits of gossip passed onto here from both pro and anti-Roland people. But whatever's happened in the past, this is where we are now. For all his faults and the fact even if he were to invest a lot by his standards it would probably only take us to lower-mid table budget-wise, I can't believe that until recently Roland wouldn't have been putting in a bit of money to at least get us up to a level of competing for safety. As it is, he clearly doesn't want to, and we're left with a defence that I reckon might get relegated from L2 and a squad that's falling apart at the seams before we're even into September. It's all just very depressing, and if we do fall into L2 I think the mood could turn sour fairly quickly. Great post. For someone whose a fan of the club though and in his eighties, if he really cared about this football club wouldn’t he invest and put some money in this season to ensure we do survive comfortably and hand over to a fresh face? The fact is Roland has only ever once put his hand in his pocket backing Paul Simpson and getting us Holt, Murray and Coughlan; one of which was sold to Norwich, and we probably profited from that investment even though we lost the play off final as Holt departed for half a million. Everything in the club screams of Roland pulling the plug on any personal investment for years which signals to us as fans he’s relaxed about whether we get relegated as long as Roland in the end gets a nice profit on his investment. With the caveat that I haven't seen balance sheets or remember for sure what our outgoings against money brought in was from seasons past, I'm not sure this is particularly fair tbh, and this is why this season stands out as being bleak. The Mellon promotion season is the obvious example, but even some of the not so obvious ones strike me as times Roland's put in money to make us competitive at the very least - Peters in 06/07 when we were nicking Chester's players, Cotterill in 21/22 (whatever the full truth of what went on in the background there was) and though it didn't work enormously well Ricketts' squads with the likes of Cummings, Pierre and EEL. The famed Hurst season where we obviously massively overperformed still required a bit of backing behind it, even if it could be argued that we could have pushed the boat out a bit further in January to get us over the line. We may have underperformed in particular seasons due to choice of managers and players, but I think we always had a chance with the budget given. I think the general consensus from a few years back was that we had a budget somewhere in the region of 15th -18th in the league, and that was generally where we finished. Some big budget teams coming up from L2 will hurt out ability to cope even at that level, and assuming he is looking to sell and with some knock-on from Cotterill (wherever the fault lies there) I understand why he's not throwing everything at it. But it does feel like instead of even putting a bit in to give us a fighter's chance with a little bit of quality and/or quantity he's put almost nothing in, sadly. It looks like we've brought a bit more quality in with the loan signings this season than last fortunately, but the permanent signings do seem very mid-table League 2 so far. I don't know the full story of what's gone on and why this is happening, and outside of Roland himself I'm not sure anyone does. But it's a real shame. |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 22, 2024 21:43:14 GMT 1
I didnt even bother reading it, its just going over the same s**t time and time again Because you can't answer the question and don't know....... I would think most do not accept Dibbly Dobbly version either as it has holes all over it as pointed out by Stutty. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 22, 2024 22:09:57 GMT 1
I didnt even bother reading it, its just going over the same s**t time and time again Because you can't answer the question and don't know....... I would think most do not accept Dibbly Dobbly version either as it has holes all over it as pointed out by Stutty. the question was answered, today , yesterday, last week, last month, last year as soon as it gets answered the same question starts on another thread youve been be begging and shouting at chairman for 6 years to bring back hurst and you still moan he got his tactics wrong on Tuesday |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 23, 2024 10:48:45 GMT 1
Nothing wrong with Hurst, he has his work cut out, but I think he will keep us up, best any manager could hope to do under the current Chairman.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 11:08:11 GMT 1
No doubt the thumping we receive at Huddersfield next Saturday (I hope not, but fear so) will again unleash a cascade of negative comments about the club in general. Let's hope it doesn't happen, if it does then feel free to counter the negativity with positivity and what us Salop fans have got to be happy about. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 11:09:05 GMT 1
Who do we blame for Hurst's appointment? The chairman or DoF?
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Post by servernaside on Aug 23, 2024 13:37:11 GMT 1
Who do we blame for Hurst's appointment? The chairman or DoF? What is there to blame? He kept us up last season which was his primary task and the current season is a mere 2 league games old. |
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But anyhow, you have to wonder and question why we have not yet found a buyer.
