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Post by martinshrew on Sept 18, 2023 17:34:15 GMT 1
Keep it simple, yes or no 👍
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 17:54:35 GMT 1
Well timed as he’s wheeled his mouth piece puppet fall guy out to the media
I imagine there was a violin or two in the room during that interview with Moore
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 18:01:16 GMT 1
another well timed poll on the back of a defeat  |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 18, 2023 18:21:52 GMT 1
another well timed poll on the back of a defeat No agenda, just a simple yes or no required. The debate can stay on the other thread, I was kinda hoping I could lock the comments and just have a poll but there was no option. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 18, 2023 18:43:34 GMT 1
No
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 18:46:43 GMT 1
another well timed poll on the back of a defeat No agenda, just a simple yes or no required. The debate can stay on the other thread, I was kinda hoping I could lock the comments and just have a poll but there was no option. of course there is an agenda, these polls only appear when there is an agenda, and in my experience on here if the result of the poll actually doesn't go the way it was fully expected to go the next step is claims of vote rigging or have another vote ( this one would be called RWEXIT ) in fairness most usually have a leading question but yours is fair and square well almost ,your witch-hunt , sorry poll thread sits next to the likes of Roland your time is up, ditch the tactics, we've going down, oh and we lost on saturday like I said, perfect timing |
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Post by venceremos on Sept 18, 2023 18:56:07 GMT 1
How can there be a simple yes or no to what has to be a two part question?
If he goes, who takes over? The Glazers? Moshiri? Saudi Arabia? 777 Partners? A N Other local business person? Only one of those is serious but the point is there have been, and are, plenty of dubious and downright bad owners at our level. This isn't like changing a manager or signing a player. It can wreck a club and is therefore far more serious.
I agree that it feels like time for change. But it has to be a change for the better and, without knowing who'd come in and what they'd bring, I can't say it's time to push Wycherley through the exit door and we'll see who comes through the front door.
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 18, 2023 19:27:48 GMT 1
Who goes? Roland decides.
So it's a poll with no purpose.
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 19:30:20 GMT 1
Who goes? Roland decides. So it's a poll with no purpose. It’s widely known that he reads / gets staff to read Blue and Amber isn’t it? Serves a very good purpose |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 19:36:00 GMT 1
How can there be a simple yes or no to what has to be a two part question? If he goes, who takes over? how about one of those guys in the massive queue at the door, the ones who barter for months about the price and then decide they are too tight to pay up, and thats the guy we want |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 18, 2023 19:49:20 GMT 1
Who goes? Roland decides. So it's a poll with no purpose. It’s widely known that he reads / gets staff to read Blue and Amber isn’t it? Serves a very good purpose Yes, gives him a good laugh as he digs his heels in and stays. |
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 19:51:29 GMT 1
It’s widely known that he reads / gets staff to read Blue and Amber isn’t it? Serves a very good purpose Yes, gives him a good laugh as he digs his heels in and stays. Good to see you agree with me, takes the fans for granted and treats them with contempt - so laughing at them is exactly what I’d expect |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 18, 2023 19:52:16 GMT 1
How can there be a simple yes or no to what has to be a two part question? If he goes, who takes over? how about one of those guys in the massive queue at the door, the ones who barter for months about the price and then decide they are too tight to pay up, and thats the guy we want Some day our Sheikh will come. |
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Post by SeanBroseley on Sept 18, 2023 19:52:51 GMT 1
He shouldn't go before the end of the season. He should attend every single game.
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 18, 2023 19:55:53 GMT 1
Yes, gives him a good laugh as he digs his heels in and stays. Good to see you agree with me, takes the fans for granted and treats them with contempt - so laughing as them is exactly what I’d expect Well, what would you do if a message board held a poll to judge if you should be removed from office? |
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 19:57:00 GMT 1
Good to see you agree with me, takes the fans for granted and treats them with contempt - so laughing as them is exactly what I’d expect Well, what would you do if a message board held a poll to judge if you should be removed from office? Maybe understand why people have concerns and try to address them. It’ll never happen though, he’s had many years to do that |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 20:44:01 GMT 1
Well, what would you do if a message board held a poll to judge if you should be removed from office? Maybe understand why people have concerns and try to address them. It’ll never happen though, he’s had many years to do that some people think 15th position to 12th position in just 3 seasons was one of the most amazing achievements in our history, only took us twice the money to do it , we've been safe from relegation with at least 2 games to play for almost a decade now in league one, we are on the clubs best run since the chairman took over, and let not forget before this run there were some very scary moments and dark eras we've been non league, knocked out in the fa cup first round year after year, less than 3000 attendance, since then we even have a new ground that at times didn't seem possible, im not really sure what people are moaning about really, oh yeah I forgot that make believe guy with a magic money tree to arrive , jeez , kids eh |
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 20:58:21 GMT 1
Maybe understand why people have concerns and try to address them. It’ll never happen though, he’s had many years to do that some people think 15th position to 12th position in just 3 seasons was one of the most amazing achievements in our history, only took us twice the money to do it , we've been safe from relegation with at least 2 games to play for almost a decade now in league one, we are on the clubs best run since the chairman took over, and let not forget before this run there were some very scary moments and dark eras we've been non league, knocked out in the fa cup first round year after year, less than 3000 attendance, since then we even have a new ground that at times didn't seem possible, im not really sure what people are moaning about really, oh yeah I forgot that make believe guy with a magic money tree to arrive , jeez , kids eh You’ve said the other day you don’t care what league we play in, and don’t care if we win or lose. So it’s not a surprise you don’t know what people are moaning about, and why people want a change of direction. To comment on your first point directly - nobody’s done that To comment on your last point directly - nobody’s asking for that |
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Post by vladimir on Sept 18, 2023 21:00:28 GMT 1
Wouldn't even need to be anybody with a money tree would it? We currently run pretty undramatically without the Chairman putting in a penny.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 21:01:32 GMT 1
some people think 15th position to 12th position in just 3 seasons was one of the most amazing achievements in our history, only took us twice the money to do it , we've been safe from relegation with at least 2 games to play for almost a decade now in league one, we are on the clubs best run since the chairman took over, and let not forget before this run there were some very scary moments and dark eras we've been non league, knocked out in the fa cup first round year after year, less than 3000 attendance, since then we even have a new ground that at times didn't seem possible, im not really sure what people are moaning about really, oh yeah I forgot that make believe guy with a magic money tree to arrive , jeez , kids eh You’ve said the other day you don’t care what league we play in, and don’t care if we win or lose. So it’s not a surprise you don’t know what people are moaning about, and why people want a change of direction. To comment on your first point directly - nobody’s done that To comment on your last point directly - nobody’s asking for that I want us to win tomorrow, you want us to lose so dont preach to me about **** all you want something that isn't likely to happen, and success that isn't happening either I just want a club to support, win lose or draw next question |
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 18, 2023 21:08:03 GMT 1
You’ve said the other day you don’t care what league we play in, and don’t care if we win or lose. So it’s not a surprise you don’t know what people are moaning about, and why people want a change of direction. To comment on your first point directly - nobody’s done that To comment on your last point directly - nobody’s asking for that I want us to win tomorrow, you want us to lose so dont preach to me about **** all you want something that isn't likely to happen, and success that isn't happening either I just want a club to support, win lose or draw next question Come on, it’s hardly preaching to quote your words from the other day… Almost all of my reservations with our Supreme Leader have little/nothing to do with on the field events Everything about the club is stale, outdated, lacks imagination and ambition, and takes the fans loyalty for granted |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 21:10:38 GMT 1
I want us to win tomorrow, you want us to lose so dont preach to me about **** all you want something that isn't likely to happen, and success that isn't happening either I just want a club to support, win lose or draw next question Come on, it’s hardly preaching to quote your words from the other day… Almost all of my reservations with our Supreme Leader have little/nothing to do with on the field events Everything about the club is stale, outdated, lacks imagination and ambition, and takes the fans loyalty for granted another one who do you suggest takes over ? you dont know do you, you've not looked past the end of your nose |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 21:17:26 GMT 1
I don't see why a pre-requisite for debating whether Roland is the right man to run the club should be being able to answer who would take over?
I have no idea whether there is anyone out there who would be interested in taking over this club if Roland decided to sell up, however it doesn't stop me from saying that I believe Roland's methods for running a football club in 2023 are outdated.
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Post by vladimir on Sept 18, 2023 21:21:08 GMT 1
Irony of course being that we've had several local businessmen and supporters come and go from the club over the last 10 years who have the sort of acumen to take the reigns and push the club in a fresh direction.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 18, 2023 22:02:37 GMT 1
How can there be a simple yes or no to what has to be a two part question? If he goes, who takes over? The Glazers? Moshiri? Saudi Arabia? 777 Partners? A N Other local business person? Only one of those is serious but the point is there have been, and are, plenty of dubious and downright bad owners at our level. This isn't like changing a manager or signing a player. It can wreck a club and is therefore far more serious. I agree that it feels like time for change. But it has to be a change for the better and, without knowing who'd come in and what they'd bring, I can't say it's time to push Wycherley through the exit door and we'll see who comes through the front door. And it's for this reason that I just cant at the moment press the 'yes' button. Its the unknown factor. Yes we need a much more modern approach from our leader, but there is no certainty that whoever comes in is going to do as good a job as Roland has over his time at the helm. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 22:05:57 GMT 1
The scariest thing for me is that it’ll be Roland himself who decides who’ll be our next owner, the man’s a proven appalling judge of character.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 18, 2023 22:37:44 GMT 1
The scariest thing for me is that it’ll be Roland himself who decides who’ll be our next owner, the man’s a proven appalling judge of character. If you sold your car tomorrow ( if you have one ) would you consider yourself to be responsible for whoever buys it off you ? |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 18, 2023 23:00:46 GMT 1
Yes but only because he has earnt a well earned retirement after being such a great servent to our club. I'd also trust him to pass the riegns over to the right person whereas if the worst did happen it would be a concerning time to be a town fan.
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 18, 2023 23:58:29 GMT 1
I don’t see what’s so scary here.
If the same group of people think Roland is someone we should fear losing as chairman, why aren’t they trusting him to sell to the right person?
He has to sell up eventually, he’s not young. It feels to me like now is as good a time as any.
I’m yet to see anyone ask for a super rich foreign owner by the way. Genuinely not seen one person seriously suggest it.
Roland has had offers on the table. There will be interest in Shrewsbury Town, for we have money in the bank, no debt, and our own stadium.
Now he just needs to sell at the right price. I’ve said on another thread, I don’t think the type of people that turn their nose up at the club being overvalued are the ones to worry about.
It’s time for some thinking outside of the box. Some trust in Roland to accept an offer from one of the good ones on the table. Some belief from everyone that it doesn’t have to be bloody Bury instead of this.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 19, 2023 0:22:29 GMT 1
I don't understand why you have to name the next chairman to be allowed the have the opinion that the current incumbents time is up?
Everyone knew Nathan Elder was woeful, but there wasn't a requirement to name the replacement striker to hold that opinion?
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