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Post by dibblydobbly on Aug 18, 2024 10:56:27 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of posts about Chairman Roland right now so thought it worth bumping this poll Any new opinions, or changes of opinions? Anybody not banned still able to vote? 😂 Should’ve sold up 5 years ago atleast, and is now severely damaging his legacy. Club is dying on its arse. Just go Is it not well documented that it was attempted and the deal was done with Delves - crikey was even in the Sun, never mind the star, then Covid hit, prevented Delves from raising the cash from a business sale, he was given time to do it, but meantime club funds were depleted from playing to covid stadiums, and the antics of certain individuals were exposed. So yes five years ago the sale was ready to go. After Covid and recent events club had to put its house in order, most of the senior management roles have changed. Anyway I realise the above view may not be popular but there was a succession all ready to run exactly when you wanted. Not much anyone can do about a pandemic. |
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Post by llanymynechshrew on Aug 18, 2024 11:11:02 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of posts about Chairman Roland right now so thought it worth bumping this poll Any new opinions, or changes of opinions? Anybody not banned still able to vote? 😂 Should’ve sold up 5 years ago atleast, and is now severely damaging his legacy. Club is dying on its arse. Just go I've got a great idea. Why don't you buy it. Let's face it anyone could, it's just a case of borrowing the money against the asset of the club, it would only raise a 10 million pound debt on the books, easy, and then you could get your wish and RW could leave tomorrow. Only problem is Roland isn't that type, thankfully. |
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Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Aug 18, 2024 12:24:48 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of posts about Chairman Roland right now so thought it worth bumping this poll Any new opinions, or changes of opinions? Anybody not banned still able to vote? 😂 Should’ve sold up 5 years ago atleast, and is now severely damaging his legacy. Club is dying on its arse. Just go I've got a great idea. Why don't you buy it. Let's face it anyone could, it's just a case of borrowing the money against the asset of the club, it would only raise a 10 million pound debt on the books, easy, and then you could get your wish and RW could leave tomorrow. Only problem is Roland isn't that type, thankfully. Calls for Roland out are pointless - there are no meaningful alternatives and without his funding we go bust. My suggestion, if anybody feels this strongly on the subject - create a fan-owned consortium. £1000 minimum contribution, shares distributed proportionately to contribution and a board of finance professionals (that are supporters) to put an offer together for Roland. Contact a few ex-players who have deeper pockets than the average fan, maybe engage Paul Delves and see where you can get to. But just remember that on top of the c. £10m offer that needs to be made to Roland, there also needs to be a contingency fund for cash-flow and a 'competitive' playing budget. Finger in the air, £5m (the cost of player wages for 2023) should do it. In all seriousness, if somebody is interested in setting this up, I would happily contribute. But not from the perspective of 'Roland out'. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 12:30:24 GMT 1
I've got a great idea. Why don't you buy it. Let's face it anyone could, it's just a case of borrowing the money against the asset of the club, it would only raise a 10 million pound debt on the books, easy, and then you could get your wish and RW could leave tomorrow. Only problem is Roland isn't that type, thankfully. Calls for Roland out are pointless - there are no meaningful alternatives and without his funding we go bust. My suggestion, if anybody feels this strongly on the subject - create a fan-owned consortium. £1000 minimum contribution, shares distributed proportionately to contribution and a board of finance professionals (that are supporters) to put an offer together for Roland. Contact a few ex-players who have deeper pockets than the average fan, maybe engage Paul Delves and see where you can get to. But just remember that on top of the c. £10m offer that needs to be made to Roland, there also needs to be a contingency fund for cash-flow and a 'competitive' playing budget. Finger in the air, £5m (the cost of player wages for 2023) should do it. In all seriousness, if somebody is interested in setting this up, I would happily contribute. But not from the perspective of 'Roland out'. Didn't delves already do that , agree a deal only to not be able to afford it He couldn't even get the money out of the swedes to help him |
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Post by lancsman on Aug 18, 2024 15:51:43 GMT 1
Even if supporters stump up the £10m to buy the club, before that is put in place the total running costs need to be set out , not just players salaries.
Before someone says ‘No s**t Sherlock’, that £10m plus running costs will be quite a heads up of how much money needs to be raised.
Great way to do it though.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 18, 2024 15:57:37 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of posts about Chairman Roland right now so thought it worth bumping this poll Any new opinions, or changes of opinions? Anybody not banned still able to vote? 😂 Should’ve sold up 5 years ago atleast, and is now severely damaging his legacy. Club is dying on its arse. Just go Is it not well documented that it was attempted and the deal was done with Delves - crikey was even in the Sun, never mind the star, then Covid hit, prevented Delves from raising the cash from a business sale, he was given time to do it, but meantime club funds were depleted from playing to covid stadiums, and the antics of certain individuals were exposed. So yes five years ago the sale was ready to go. After Covid and recent events club had to put its house in order, most of the senior management roles have changed. Anyway I realise the above view may not be popular but there was a succession all ready to run exactly when you wanted. Not much anyone can do about a pandemic. Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph |
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Post by dibblydobbly on Aug 18, 2024 19:00:25 GMT 1
Is it not well documented that it was attempted and the deal was done with Delves - crikey was even in the Sun, never mind the star, then Covid hit, prevented Delves from raising the cash from a business sale, he was given time to do it, but meantime club funds were depleted from playing to covid stadiums, and the antics of certain individuals were exposed. So yes five years ago the sale was ready to go. After Covid and recent events club had to put its house in order, most of the senior management roles have changed. Anyway I realise the above view may not be popular but there was a succession all ready to run exactly when you wanted. Not much anyone can do about a pandemic. Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 19:17:56 GMT 1
Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! good explanation and thanks, hopefully that might put an end to the made up rumours that change each time they are told |
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Aug 18, 2024 21:20:22 GMT 1
Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! If the Swedsh /Nordic investor had said they had money to invest in the Club maybe the Chairman's price would have hiked even more ! As you have said though , a massive opportunity has been missed and we are skint ! But who knows what happens in the future . Maybe some local money will appear if the Chairman has realistic aspirations that insures money is injected into the club and not just his own pockets. Maybe the Supporters could be brought in from the cold to invest also. Who knows what the future holds We could get promoted , we could get relegated Everything depends on results and a fair wind and some dribbles of cash coming in from a dibbly dobbly depleted board. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 22:11:43 GMT 1
It's several years past time.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 13:12:11 GMT 1
This thread went quiet , was it something someone said ?
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 19, 2024 13:17:38 GMT 1
Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! If this is indeed the case, then why doesn’t Roland communicate with the fans and tell them what happened? As always, we’re treated like mushrooms, and expected to plough our time and money into the club unconditionally. Can he just not be arsed to keep fans in the loop? Or has he learnt nothing from 20ish years as a Chairman? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 14:54:31 GMT 1
The issue is, with every poor result the dark sceptre of the clubs leadership hangs over like a very dark and very gloomy cloud.
Is RW directly responsible for us losing 4-1? Of course not. Does he bear responsibility for the circumstances that we currently find ourselves in that directly contribute to where we currently are as a club? Of course he does.
I’d also add people should be allowed to offer their opinion on the chairman and his stewardship without the attack dogs having to retaliate to every single slightly critical post. Freedom of speech, differing opinions and passionate debate should be welcomed. It staggers me that some people seem to think B&A would be a better and more harmonious place if we all refused any criticism and just supported every decision the club makes.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 15:14:29 GMT 1
As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! If this is indeed the case, then why doesn’t Roland communicate with the fans and tell them what happened? As always, we’re treated like mushrooms, and expected to plough our time and money into the club unconditionally. Can he just not be arsed to keep fans in the loop? Or has he learnt nothing from 20ish years as a Chairman? Maybe, it's because despite getting messed around he remains professional and as always acts in the best interest of the club, slagging off time wasters probably isn't the best way forward when you are trying to sell , it's likely to deter those Who might be interested , any case those facts have filtered out one way or another and most have ignored them and made up their own untrue versions , that's what footballs fans do |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 19, 2024 15:45:31 GMT 1
Surely no one can deny that Roland is a fan who has devoted his retirement to running Shrewsbury Town, rather than having the time of his life on his wealth?
Roland's long term plan was to have a new stadium and Championship football. He's taken risks to try and achieve Championship football, for example, appointing SC who has been there and persuaded RW he could achieve the dream.
Roland does not deserve "Roland out" protests, nor even threads like this.
He's earned the right to pass on the baton in his own way in his own time.
Where would we (and Paul Hurst) be now if we had won that play off final? Or even if PH had stayed on to try again the next season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 15:47:15 GMT 1
If this is indeed the case, then why doesn’t Roland communicate with the fans and tell them what happened? As always, we’re treated like mushrooms, and expected to plough our time and money into the club unconditionally. Can he just not be arsed to keep fans in the loop? Or has he learnt nothing from 20ish years as a Chairman? any case those facts have filtered out one way or another and most have ignored them and made up their own untrue versions , that's what footballs fans do Where are these facts? The post from Dibbly may well be right but it's also just another post from a fan on a messageboard saying what they've heard, I'm not aware any of these stories being confirmed by the club. And we are back to the problem, no communication from the club, other than Liam responding with "we are seeking investment/are in talks with potential parties" every few months when asked at a fans parliament. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 15:56:29 GMT 1
Surely no one can deny that Roland is a fan who has devoted his retirement to running Shrewsbury Town, rather than having the time of his life on his wealth? Roland's long term plan was to have a new stadium and Championship football. He's taken risks to try and achieve Championship football, for example, appointing SC who has been there and persuaded RW he could achieve the dream. Roland does not deserve "Roland out" protests, nor even threads like this. He's earned the right to pass on the baton in his own way in his own time. Where would we (and Paul Hurst) be now if we had won that play off final? Or even if PH had stayed on to try again the nest season. No one has denied is a fan. No one has denied he has devoted a lot of time to firstly saving and then running the football club. And there have been no protests aimed at him But people are debating about his running of the club today, (well probably longer), as far as I'm aware, this isn't North Korea and we should be able to question/challenge our leader and of course , those who want to defend him, feel free to do so. But as I've said elsewhere today, do you think that it's healthy that our football club has a board consisting of an 82 year old man and his accountant? |
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Post by lancsman on Aug 19, 2024 16:04:41 GMT 1
The issue is, with every poor result the dark sceptre of the clubs leadership hangs over like a very dark and very gloomy cloud. Is RW directly responsible for us losing 4-1? Of course not. Does he bear responsibility for the circumstances that we currently find ourselves in that directly contribute to where we currently are as a club? Of course he does. I’d also add people should be allowed to offer their opinion on the chairman and his stewardship without the attack dogs having to retaliate to every single slightly critical post. Freedom of speech, differing opinions and passionate debate should be welcomed. It staggers me that some people seem to think B&A would be a better and more harmonious place if we all refused any criticism and just supported every decision the club makes. I think the underlying factors of where we are now need to be set out in no uncertain terms. Firstly the Chairman finds himself in a dark place because of the financial situation the club is in. Basically he is struggling to support the club going forward. You say the chairman cannot be held responsible for the results……. Yes he is responsible because we simply do not have the quality players to compete in this league. So then you look at salop and the supporters. If the performances and result do not improve, and I suggest in reality, they will not, supporters will turn away , then see the coffers to run the club dry up. So what is Roland’s answer? He can put more money in to an already singing ship which I think he will not want to do. The next way forward for him is to sell the club for the reportedly rumoured sum of £10m. What he needs to realise is that if doesn’t sell now and we get relegated that figure will drop. If he doesn’t realise this he is in cuckoo land. On the point of selling the best suggestion yet is a supporters trust with the likes of Delves and a few others. Any person with the capital to put forward will see what fans are saying on this forum. So in a nutshell your point about where responsibility lies falls fairly and squarely with Roland. At this point in time I feel for Paul Hurst. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 19, 2024 16:07:07 GMT 1
Surely no one can deny that Roland is a fan who has devoted his retirement to running Shrewsbury Town, rather than having the time of his life on his wealth? Roland's long term plan was to have a new stadium and Championship football. He's taken risks to try and achieve Championship football, for example, appointing SC who has been there and persuaded RW he could achieve the dream. Roland does not deserve "Roland out" protests, nor even threads like this. He's earned the right to pass on the baton in his own way in his own time. Where would we (and Paul Hurst) be now if we had won that play off final? Or even if PH had stayed on to try again the nest season. No one has denied is a fan. No one has denied he has devoted a lot of time to firstly saving and then running the football club. And there have been no protests aimed at him But people are debating about his running of the club today, (well probably longer), as far as I'm aware, this isn't North Korea and we should be able to question/challenge our leader and of course , those who want to defend him, feel free to do so. But as I've said elsewhere today, do you think that it's healthy that our football club has a board consisting of an 82 year old man and his accountant? In particular it's the idea some put forward of "Roland out" protests at the ground. That's shabby. "No one has denied he is a fan. No one has denied he has devoted a lot of time to firstly saving and then running the football club". Doesn't that earn an 82 year old the right to an honourable handover to who he considers the right people t the right time? With a thread title of "Is it time for Roland to go", are we really debating his running of the club, or just organising a witchunt? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 16:20:44 GMT 1
In particular it's the idea some put forward of "Roland out" protests at the ground. That's shabby. "No one has denied he is a fan. No one has denied he has devoted a lot of time to firstly saving and then running the football club". Doesn't that earn an 82 year old the right to an honourable handover to who he considers the right people t the right time? I haven't seen the idea of a protest. Personally I wouldn't do that now but come the end of the season if results were poor and communication continued to be non-existent then I wouldn't necessarily be against it (hopefully doesn't come to that). As for this handover,, it comes across like you are speaking like he's the chairman of a local cricket league where he's donated thousands of hours for the love of game and is now handing it over to the nect volunteer . The reality is he will make millions from the sale of his shares. Plenty will say he's deserved it and I certainly won't begrudge it but let's not pretend Roland is only doing what's right for STFC, he's a businessman, he will be doing what's best for Roland and what he believes to be best for STFC. |
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Post by Scarecrow on Aug 19, 2024 17:22:30 GMT 1
Football forums are often places where fans give opinions on the team, management and concerns they have. They also praise where it’s due. I remember about two years ago starting a thread praising how good Luke Leahy had been as captain and how good he was as for us as a club.
When things are going bad people look for people to blame and single out for criticism. For some that might be Toto and Pierre at the weekend, for others it might be the formation or the director of football making the signings. Sometimes that can be a manager like Ricketts and Taylor.
For some of us we’ve drawn the conclusion that if this season goes as badly as we expect, the manager or team is not to blame but the ownership and budget of this football club not being competitive.
I can understand for the past few years fans being annoyed at Ricketts, Askey and Taylor, but we’ve got a manager in charge of the club who has had success previously and I genuinely think is a very good football league manager with experience. Therefore when I look at the squad, the performance at the weekend who exactly should we be looking at to explain the result? If we are bottom of the league at the end of October I won’t be blaming or pouring scorn on Hurst for this mess because this is a pattern now.
One outstanding finish of 3rd, another solid finish of 12th in a decade whilst finishing in the bottom half of the table with no investment and relegation scraps every year demonstrate a pattern. We’ve tried to be cheap every single year and as much as Steve and Brian overspent, I’m of the opinion that they knew the budget needed for a competitive team in league one whilst Roland does not have the resources to provide it. That’s fine, it’s not against Roland not being able to have a large budget but I will question the fact we’ve been unable to secure any investment under his tenure which would be in the best interests of Shrewsbury town football club to help this club progress and solidifying further in league one. I will also question to what extent a chairman who puts in no money for the past decade out of his own pocket really is the golden messiah people portray him to be. Other chairman in this division and league two will put in their own money to help improve the club and yet Roland has made a fortune off his investment into this club with regards to assets but acted in last summer like we should kiss his feet for bailing us out of a problem he created to the tune of 500k, which some teams in this division spend on a single player to improve their team. That’s not investment and he’s not done that for us out of the kindness of his heart, but he expects fans to give him plaudits for it. I don’t.
If Roland brought in investors which diluted his power of the club in exchange for financial investment to help the club improve I’d have very little issue with him retaining control of this club, but time after time the revolving door continues to roll and he’s unwilling to shed any power or control he has to the detriment of this football club we all love. This season we are likely to get relegated, and that’s on Roland for me.
If you disagree with my take, fine, but I think some fans are right to be aiming their frustration at the board instead of the players or manager at this point as we look to play out another relegation scrap this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 17:32:40 GMT 1
Good post.
Ultimately sole blame doesn’t lie with Roland - players can underperform, Hurst can get his tactics wrong, the signings could be the wrong players, for me nobody is exempt from criticism if and when things are bad.
But the buck stops at the top, and I feel like the only defences we hear are that he ‘has the clubs best interests at heart’ or ‘what more do you expect’, I feel like at the very least his role in things deserves questioning.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 19, 2024 17:47:22 GMT 1
The issue is, with every poor result the dark sceptre of the clubs leadership hangs over like a very dark and very gloomy cloud. Is RW directly responsible for us losing 4-1? Of course not. Does he bear responsibility for the circumstances that we currently find ourselves in that directly contribute to where we currently are as a club? Of course he does. I’d also add people should be allowed to offer their opinion on the chairman and his stewardship without the attack dogs having to retaliate to every single slightly critical post. Freedom of speech, differing opinions and passionate debate should be welcomed. It staggers me that some people seem to think B&A would be a better and more harmonious place if we all refused any criticism and just supported every decision the club makes. There's constructive criticism and there's, I think it's called "trolling". Recently the "he must go" stuff, without thought to what we do when they've gone, stuff has been aimed at our DofF and then our Chairman. |
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Post by servernaside on Aug 19, 2024 18:09:28 GMT 1
Surely no one can deny that Roland is a fan who has devoted his retirement to running Shrewsbury Town, rather than having the time of his life on his wealth? Roland's long term plan was to have a new stadium and Championship football. He's taken risks to try and achieve Championship football, for example, appointing SC who has been there and persuaded RW he could achieve the dream. Roland does not deserve "Roland out" protests, nor even threads like this. He's earned the right to pass on the baton in his own way in his own time. Where would we (and Paul Hurst) be now if we had won that play off final? Or even if PH had stayed on to try again the next season. Your are quite right. Some of the negative posters on this messageboard live in a parallel universe. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2024 21:42:09 GMT 1
Maybe you would like to enlighten everyone regarding the Scandinavian consortium bid to buy the club which RW rejected, who have since invested in Burton. This was reported by several tabloids S Star and Derby Telegraph As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! What other irons were in the fire and how did they compare to the one from the Nordic consortium that eventually took over at Burton? Are those other parties still interested, are talks ongoing? As we know the Nordic group were genuine and legit because they went on to buy another club. What about the irons you mention? |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 22:05:36 GMT 1
As I understand it that one has been on here a few times also, in January for example, in summary they came in behind delves, made out they had only enough money to just buy it, were put off by BC and SC and then PD initially, their consortium pulled out three times, then fell apart, brought in new members from different countries, and then rocked up months later wanting immediate exclusivity when other irons were in the fire, and were still not suggesting that they had funds to invest or indeed any proper go forward plans. That their first two teams fell apart with some bitterness did not bode well either. Given the speed of their final deal, they must have already been in with Burton long before they came back for the last time demanding immediate action and were stringing both clubs along. Make of it what you will, no point going over it again and again, it is done, and we have to look forward and learn what we can from it. Roll on Tuesday! What other irons were in the fire and how did they compare to the one from the Nordic consortium that eventually took over at Burton? Are those other parties still interested, are talks ongoing? As we know the Nordic group were genuine and legit because they went on to buy another club. What about the irons you mention? that means 777 partners must be more than genuine and legit as they have bought several clubs |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2024 22:08:11 GMT 1
What other irons were in the fire and how did they compare to the one from the Nordic consortium that eventually took over at Burton? Are those other parties still interested, are talks ongoing? As we know the Nordic group were genuine and legit because they went on to buy another club. What about the irons you mention? that means 777 partners must be more than genuine and legit as they have bought several clubs This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Can you answer the questions I asked or not? |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 22:10:22 GMT 1
that means 777 partners must be more than genuine and legit as they have bought several clubs This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Can you answer the questions I asked or not? You claim someone buying a club makes them legit I just pointed out that rogues also buy clubs |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2024 22:11:11 GMT 1
This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Can you answer the questions I asked or not? You claim someone buying a club makes them legit I just pointed out that rogues also buy clubs Are the Nordic group rogues then? What are you basing that on? |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 22:14:27 GMT 1
You claim someone buying a club makes them legit I just pointed out that rogues also buy clubs Are the Nordic group rogues then? What are you basing that on? are they legit ? What are you basing that on ? Because all we do know is they turned up 3 times within the past 4 years and backed out and then came back for 4th time and demanded we drop all talks with anyone else and talk with them again I'm amazed we gave them a 3rd chance to be honest |
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