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Post by Pilch on Oct 1, 2023 11:16:07 GMT 1
Parents holding protests around the country against “an epidemic of careless and dangerous driving’. Data taken outside a school in Birmingham shows 91% of vehicles speeding. The war on motorists continues😕 as I pointed out earlier on this thread, in my experience the biggest hazard on the roads near schools is the lazy parents who park as close as they can possibly get , often in places they should not be parking, can make driving on those roads a bit of a minefield, this should be addressed asap, simply by intruding no parking zones half hour either side of school chucking out time
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 1, 2023 11:45:03 GMT 1
Parents holding protests around the country against “an epidemic of careless and dangerous driving’. Data taken outside a school in Birmingham shows 91% of vehicles speeding. The war on motorists continues😕 as I pointed out earlier on this thread, in my experience the biggest hazard on the roads near schools is the lazy parents who park as close as they can possibly get , often in places they should not be parking, can make driving on those roads a bit of a minefield, this should be addressed asap, simply by intruding no parking zones half hour either side of school chucking out time As they’ve done in Coleham but gone one further and closed the road. Parents shouldn’t be able to drive kids to school unless they live say more than 2 miles from a school. All this choice and ferrying kids across towns the problem. At selection two questions. Which school do you want? How will your child get to school?
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 1, 2023 11:52:19 GMT 1
Parents holding protests around the country against “an epidemic of careless and dangerous driving’. Data taken outside a school in Birmingham shows 91% of vehicles speeding. The war on motorists continues😕 as I pointed out earlier on this thread, in my experience the biggest hazard on the roads near schools is the lazy parents who park as close as they can possibly get , often in places they should not be parking, can make driving on those roads a bit of a minefield, this should be addressed asap, simply by intruding no parking zones half hour either side of school chucking out time No disagreement here, I live in a densely populated area where the schools’ catchment area is 1 mile or less. No reason for children to be driven to school. Ironically when parents are asked why they drive kids to school they claim it’s because the roads are too dangerous to cycle or walk.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 1, 2023 11:56:02 GMT 1
as I pointed out earlier on this thread, in my experience the biggest hazard on the roads near schools is the lazy parents who park as close as they can possibly get , often in places they should not be parking, can make driving on those roads a bit of a minefield, this should be addressed asap, simply by intruding no parking zones half hour either side of school chucking out time No disagreement here, I live in a densely populated area where the schools’ catchment area is 1 mile or less. No reason for children to be driven to school. Ironically when parents are asked why they drive kids to school they claim it’s because the roads are too dangerous to cycle or walk. Or they’re too lazy to walk them.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 1, 2023 12:47:15 GMT 1
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 1, 2023 12:51:53 GMT 1
Have they thought of teaming up with Just Stop Oil?
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Post by edgmond on Oct 1, 2023 13:04:59 GMT 1
No disagreement here, I live in a densely populated area where the schools’ catchment area is 1 mile or less. No reason for children to be driven to school. Ironically when parents are asked why they drive kids to school they claim it’s because the roads are too dangerous to cycle or walk. Or they’re too lazy to walk them. Most decisions made by most parents nowadays relating to their children are made for the convenience of the parents rather than what is actually better for the children. Sometimes you feel like reminding them that it is not compulsory to have children in this country. On the subject of parking close to schools, I spent most of my working life in education and it was a constant problem. On the rare occasions that a police officer was monitoring the situation it was amazing how everyone parked in a sensible, considerate manner!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 1, 2023 13:08:02 GMT 1
as I pointed out earlier on this thread, in my experience the biggest hazard on the roads near schools is the lazy parents who park as close as they can possibly get , often in places they should not be parking, can make driving on those roads a bit of a minefield, this should be addressed asap, simply by intruding no parking zones half hour either side of school chucking out time As they’ve done in Coleham but gone one further and closed the road. Parents shouldn’t be able to drive kids to school unless they live say more than 2 miles from a school. All this choice and ferrying kids across towns the problem. At selection two questions. Which school do you want? How will your child get to school? Dont disagree with your ideas about 2 miles from school. However it's not quite that simply in reality. Our grandson lives only 5 mins walk from his school so can easily be walked that distance, but his mum has started work by the time he has to go to school over the other side of Telford and she gets to take him back over to school (she works at a child nursery run by her mum). That is maybe 6-8 miles. If it's not mum who is dropping off or collecting its various grandparents who also live on the other side of Telford. There are also no doubt lots of other parents who drop off and pick up and go straight to work so a 2 mile walk just isnt practical in that situation either. I'm guessing there are plenty of other children in similar situations. Have to say though the roads round by his school are a complete PITA around 9am and 3pm. I would be very wary of riding my bike anywhere near there and I'm an experienced cyclist so can see why others dont ride to school.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 1, 2023 13:21:38 GMT 1
Bane of my life are the 4x4s and other vehicles that congregate at the top of my road from 3 p.m. onwards to pick up kids from the Lakelands School in Ellesmere.
I have to plan my day accordingly to avoid being anywhere near there at that time. Fortunately, as I'm now retired the morning clutter doesn't affect me.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 1, 2023 14:18:19 GMT 1
I accept that there are some people who have to drop kids off at school, the huge reduction in traffic during school holidays suggests that there isn’t many of them.
I also appreciate that my experience of living in a metropolitan area with excellent public transport is different from living in more rural areas. Here most travel to work by metro or bus.
I’m pretty sure all those cars gathering near schools with engines running 30 minutes before home time are not working parents.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 10, 2023 13:33:49 GMT 1
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Post by wookeywombat on Oct 10, 2023 17:03:02 GMT 1
Letter is incorrect:- "By 1997 support for devolution had increased and was narrowly supported in a referendum."
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 11, 2023 9:38:31 GMT 1
Are Welsh drivers getting used to this 20mph business? Are you finding yourselves doing 20mph in an English built up area out of habit?
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Post by vladimir on Oct 11, 2023 9:48:26 GMT 1
Are Welsh drivers getting used to this 20mph business? Are you finding yourselves doing 20mph in an English built up area out of habit? No. Amazingly as a driver I'm capable of observing road signs and my surroundings to drive at a safe and appropriate speed following any limits in place.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 11, 2023 10:00:44 GMT 1
Are Welsh drivers getting used to this 20mph business? Are you finding yourselves doing 20mph in an English built up area out of habit? No. Amazingly as a driver I'm capable of observing road signs and my surroundings to drive at a safe and appropriate speed following any limits in place. At 30 mph I know the engine note that is 29 mph, no need to keep checking the speedo, I keep my eyes on the road looking out for all the hazards that occur in a built up area.
In addition, in England at least, a built up area does not have to be signposted at 30 mph to be 30 mph.
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Post by servernaside on Oct 11, 2023 10:28:57 GMT 1
This is all Tony Blair's (Labour Party) fault with his insane devolution agenda (Devo Max) which anyone with a couple of brain cells would have realised, had the potential to set one group of Britons against another. Health, Transport, Education and many other other issues which should properly apply nationwide to all taxpayers, are now devolved and run by jumped-up parish councillors like Drakeford in Wales and formerly Sturgeon in Scotland.
Blair is surely a man who belongs behind bars for reasons too numerous to list here.
PS. He also did really well in his role as 'peacemaker' in resolving the Arab - Israeli conflict as we have all witnessed this week.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 11, 2023 10:36:05 GMT 1
Most of the drivers in Wales that I've been following have been doing 26 - 30 m.p.h.
We know where the fixed cameras are plus the favoured places where the Arrive Alive vans are likely to be situated.
I always check whether I'm being followed by a police car and am familiar with the make of their unmarked cars.
So as you might appreciate, it's not much fun in Wales. Their latest ruse is to put their Arrive Alive vans on a 40 m.p.h. stretch coming out of Flint where drivers are accelerating away from the tedious 20 m.p.h. restriction, the last half mile of which is almost exclusively flanked by just trees.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 11, 2023 12:04:34 GMT 1
Apparently there is a stretch of road near Overton where the sign going from England says 30mph and the exact same road leaving Wales says 20mph, so if you happened to overtake which speed limit would apply (ONLY JOKING)
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Post by servernaside on Oct 11, 2023 12:19:08 GMT 1
Most of the drivers in Wales that I've been following have been doing 26 - 30 m.p.h. We know where the fixed cameras are plus the favoured places where the Arrive Alive vans are likely to be situated. I always check whether I'm being followed by a police car and am familiar with the make of their unmarked cars. So as you might appreciate, it's not much fun in Wales. Their latest ruse is to put their Arrive Alive vans on a 40 m.p.h. stretch coming out of Flint where drivers are accelerating away from the tedious 20 m.p.h. restriction, the last half mile of which is almost exclusively flanked by just trees. We are all now living in George Orwell's book - 1984.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 11, 2023 12:26:34 GMT 1
Most of the drivers in Wales that I've been following have been doing 26 - 30 m.p.h. We know where the fixed cameras are plus the favoured places where the Arrive Alive vans are likely to be situated. I always check whether I'm being followed by a police car and am familiar with the make of their unmarked cars. So as you might appreciate, it's not much fun in Wales. Their latest ruse is to put their Arrive Alive vans on a 40 m.p.h. stretch coming out of Flint where drivers are accelerating away from the tedious 20 m.p.h. restriction, the last half mile of which is almost exclusively flanked by just trees. We are all now living in George Orwell's book - 1984. Yeah, my main takeaway from that book was the bit where they had to drive slightly slower.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 11, 2023 12:58:37 GMT 1
🤷🤷already changed one 20mph sign,coming into Chirk village,back to 30 mph.......you heard it here first🤷🤷😲🤦
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Post by servernaside on Oct 12, 2023 9:33:48 GMT 1
We are all now living in George Orwell's book - 1984. Yeah, my main takeaway from that book was the bit where they had to drive slightly slower. One day you might have something intelligent to say, but I'm not holding my breath,
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 12, 2023 11:04:36 GMT 1
Yeah, my main takeaway from that book was the bit where they had to drive slightly slower. One day you might have something intelligent to say, but I'm not holding my breath, Are you under the impression that's a line from the book? Just asking cos it doesn't appear you've read it before, so just wanted to check.
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Post by wookeywombat on Oct 12, 2023 11:56:17 GMT 1
Yeah, my main takeaway from that book was the bit where they had to drive slightly slower. One day you might have something intelligent to say, but I'm not holding my breath, Classic pot, kettle, black. Still awaiting at least one answer to your sweeping generalisations over time.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Oct 12, 2023 17:32:14 GMT 1
Drove from home (near Llanymynech) to Pontypool onto Swansea and home yesterday - my longest just in Wales journey since the 20mph limit came in. It added around 15 minutes on the last leg.
I appreciate that the safety aspect around areas where there are vulnerable pedestrians and would support the 20mph limit around such areas but there are large swathes of the 20mph limit where no such buildings exist. Many speed limit signs down in South Wales have been 'vandalised' by being painted out.
I utilise my speedo, SatNav and have to Speed Camera App on the phone so hopefully will not fall foul of any speeding!
I know that even with the current petition standing at 461,314 the Welsh Government will not rescind the change - but just wanted to rant to my fellow B&A fellows/fellowesses!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 12, 2023 21:23:04 GMT 1
spent a couple of days in Cardiff last week, if only the pavements had a 20mph limit for all the cycles and scooters , I guess there is no money in that
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Post by servernaside on Oct 13, 2023 8:44:45 GMT 1
One day you might have something intelligent to say, but I'm not holding my breath, Are you under the impression that's a line from the book? Just asking cos it doesn't appear you've read it before, so just wanted to check. Of course it's not a line from the book. It's a reference to the whole point of the story that 'Big Brother' ie. government is watching and controlling our every movement.
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Post by servernaside on Oct 13, 2023 8:46:02 GMT 1
One day you might have something intelligent to say, but I'm not holding my breath, Classic pot, kettle, black. Still awaiting at least one answer to your sweeping generalisations over time. Your comments rarely deserve an answer. I'm making an exception in this case.
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Post by kenwood on Oct 13, 2023 9:25:44 GMT 1
Are you under the impression that's a line from the book? Just asking cos it doesn't appear you've read it before, so just wanted to check. Of course it's not a line from the book. It's a reference to the whole point of the story that 'Big Brother' ie. government is watching and controlling our every movement. Don’t want to spoil your enjoyment old chap but I think Mr. Rickerton is aware of that . In other words he’s taking the p**s . Anyway , got to go , there’s a strange man watching my house and I fear the worst .😳
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Post by wookeywombat on Oct 13, 2023 16:47:11 GMT 1
Classic pot, kettle, black. Still awaiting at least one answer to your sweeping generalisations over time. Your comments rarely deserve an answer. I'm making an exception in this case. You don't even answer direct questions never mind responding to comments. I'm still awaiting an answer to this for example:- Jun 21, 2023 at 9:20am servernaside said: "I think the thread heading would be a more appropriate title for this board. Mercifully, such nonsense has been removed from the main board and I don't have to view this nonsense on a routine basis. I did however make a rare visit this morning to see what nonsense was afoot and true enough the Guardianistas are out in force, spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects. Long may these comments remain away from the main board. My Reply "Examples please or are you just going to run away like Boris".
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