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Post by darkshrew on Oct 16, 2021 18:51:36 GMT 1
I hope that is the last time we see Cosgrove - there was no effort and no glimmer of ability.
A world of difference when Bowman came on, and also compared to Udoh who puts his all into the game.
I really want Pyke to do well, but he was very poor too - no idea why he replaced Udoh; Udoh didn't look knackered and Bloxham would have been a much better replacement IMO.
That looked a nasty knock on Davis' knee and it does not look good for Nurse - with a midweek match that is a bit of a concern.
Good games all around except Cosgrove and Pyke. A great result and so happy to get into double figures before Xmas - let's hope that we can win the next two and start to kick on to attract some loan talent in January.
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 16, 2021 19:15:59 GMT 1
Let me get this straight, because it still hasn't registered. We beat a team in the top six, with a goal from our longest-serving player AND we kept a clean sheet?!
Remarkable.
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Post by SamHarvey on Oct 16, 2021 19:25:11 GMT 1
So happy tonight. A Shrewsbury win, a clean sheet and Wrexham in turmoil. This 19 Crimes is tasting all the better for it 😁😁
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 19:28:00 GMT 1
Probably not fair to concentrate on a negative after a great result but what the **** is wrong with Cosgrove? Any other season he’d be sent back, but being so short of numbers, we’ll have to keep him here. Lack of ability is one thing, but why doesn’t he run around abit?
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Post by harboroughshrew on Oct 16, 2021 19:40:47 GMT 1
Well done lads. Ebanks -Landell my Man of the Match - areal captains performance and he got a head or a foot on anything that came in. Very good finish by Whalley and also nice to see Ogbeta back starting. We have created more in other games and lost buts that's football and again shows the value of keeping a clean sheet.
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Post by montana on Oct 16, 2021 19:43:51 GMT 1
One word describes him lazy! Thinks himself to good to be playing in our division.I would put him in the reserves, we have had far better players in the past who have at least tried.... that's all we ask.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 16, 2021 19:46:32 GMT 1
Not much in the table, and Mark my words teams like morecambe and Cheltenham, and Wimbledon will eventually slide down the table.theres a long way to go yet
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Oct 16, 2021 20:41:59 GMT 1
I really want Pyke to do well, but he was very poor too - no idea why he replaced Udoh; Udoh didn't look knackered and Bloxham would have been a much better replacement IMO. Udoh didn’t look knackered? he was knackered like we never seen before, constantly leaning over for breathers and Cotterill wanted to know what was going on.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 16, 2021 20:52:35 GMT 1
Horrible win but the players worked really hard today so deserve to enjoy it. Oxford is a nailed on defeat but hopefully we have some players back for next Saturday, a defeat on Tuesday and a win next weekend would be a successful week for the club.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 16, 2021 20:56:39 GMT 1
For the lack of quality, you've gotta make it up by battling hard and giving 110%.if you do---- you will win more than you lose, that is a given👍🤷♂️
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 16, 2021 21:40:52 GMT 1
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Post by southstandviewer on Oct 16, 2021 21:41:47 GMT 1
First half I had to count the players as they seemed to have a spare player all the time, but for all their possession they only had the one real chance which was saved well with the legs. They just seemed more agile, free passing and didn’t need to look up to find a teammate. I was frustrated by some ball watching but will let it slide tonight as we won.
Second half yes we picked it up and pushed forward more, strung a few moves together and scored a good breakaway goal. The defence was tested and did their job, Davis made one vital interception in the box to deny a real chance for them. To sum up a battling performance, could have gone either way but we scored and they didn’t, not exciting but a pressure release in terms of clean sheets and home points builds confidence.
Onwards and up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 21:47:37 GMT 1
I seem to say this a lot but a very strange game. MK dominated and at half time I was feeling very negative, however for all their possession they created very little. Part of the reason they dominated possession so easily was lack of pressure and a lack of midfield.
My main thought is we shouldn't complain when we've just won and kept a clean sheet but my god it was hard to watch.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 16, 2021 21:51:31 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Oct 16, 2021 22:59:57 GMT 1
Shame on those hoping for a nil nil 😜 Mkd dominated but did they actually threaten ? I can’t remember , maybe first half was their best chance when makosi did a good save Good change at half time , bowman fair play after last week Udoh good game but needs to be fitter pyke on instead of Tom ? Tom showed why when he came on 3 points I didn’t expect but I’ll take them 👍 The decision to bring on pyke before bloxham was proven correct as bloxham was running around like a headless chicken chasing 5 defenders. Moments later when we had chance to break he was too out of breath to run. i could argue cosgrove spent 45 minutes saving his energy, and bowman came on running around like a headless chicken, best sub cotterill has even made
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Post by Pilch on Oct 16, 2021 23:07:48 GMT 1
Huge game for us. Not confident at all. Might stick a £10 on MK & Wrexham, that'll curse them for sure. I went to pop £5 yesterday on town and marine to both finish 1-1 town was 11/2, but no odds were being offered up for the other game at the time so didnt bother so glad I never now, its never a good feeling when town let you down by winning
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 17, 2021 7:11:54 GMT 1
I seem to say this a lot but a very strange game. MK dominated and at half time I was feeling very negative, however for all their possession they created very little. Part of the reason they dominated possession so easily was lack of pressure and a lack of midfield. My main thought is we shouldn't complain when we've just won and kept a clean sheet but my god it was hard to watch. They had more possession but they hardly dominated. Especially from 30 minutes when we finally woke up. A team that dominates manages more than 3 shots on target. It was not a pretty performance by Salop but it was a back to basics, win at all cost performance. The nice pretty football with plenty of goals can come when we have a bit of confidence and out of the relegation zone. The first 6 games of the season we played nice football, played possession football and ended up with 0 points. Fair play to SC for finding the formation and tactics to suit this squad. He has said that this isnt the type of football he wants but its needs must. Get to January having learnt from the summer and hopefully we can start to build a better squad for another league 1 campaign.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Oct 17, 2021 7:24:18 GMT 1
Much better performance 2nd half, and we 'stole' a win. Ebanks was probably MOTM but for effort alone I will give it to Danny Udoh. Some say he is not fit !! But the amount of running he did would have anyone knackered after 70 mins. Well done the Shrews. Hopefully we can get a few more wins before January so as to keep in touch with the bottom half, prior to strengthening in the transfer window.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Oct 17, 2021 8:19:33 GMT 1
My initial reaction was that he was offside but the linesman was not up with play so gave him the benefit of the doubt. I loved the way Whalley used Bowman's run as a decoy to get nearer to goal and cut in before delivering a great finish - that is the sort of clinical finishing we will need if we are to climb the table.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 8:36:01 GMT 1
I seem to say this a lot but a very strange game. MK dominated and at half time I was feeling very negative, however for all their possession they created very little. Part of the reason they dominated possession so easily was lack of pressure and a lack of midfield. My main thought is we shouldn't complain when we've just won and kept a clean sheet but my god it was hard to watch. They had more possession but they hardly dominated. Especially from 30 minutes when we finally woke up. A team that dominates manages more than 3 shots on target. It was not a pretty performance by Salop but it was a back to basics, win at all cost performance. The nice pretty football with plenty of goals can come when we have a bit of confidence and out of the relegation zone. The first 6 games of the season we played nice football, played possession football and ended up with 0 points. Fair play to SC for finding the formation and tactics to suit this squad. He has said that this isnt the type of football he wants but its needs must. Get to January having learnt from the summer and hopefully we can start to build a better squad for another league 1 campaign. Based on the stats I'd say they dominated, those same stats you have been posting on other posts to say what a great job our defence did (which I agree with). Like I said they dominated but created little, 76% possession, 13 shots, 11 corners but only 2 shots on target backs this up. Apart from that one save from Marosi in the first half I'm struggling to think anything else they created. First half was a non event where they had the ball but did very little, second half was better from our perspective and I think that was partly down to Bowman coming on who was closing down & putting pressure on the MK Dons defence unlike Cosgrove. We can question our attack and lack of midfield but we also have to give the team (and Cotterill) credit for their discipline & organisation in restricting MK to so little.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 17, 2021 8:51:03 GMT 1
They had more possession but they hardly dominated. Especially from 30 minutes when we finally woke up. A team that dominates manages more than 3 shots on target. It was not a pretty performance by Salop but it was a back to basics, win at all cost performance. The nice pretty football with plenty of goals can come when we have a bit of confidence and out of the relegation zone. The first 6 games of the season we played nice football, played possession football and ended up with 0 points. Fair play to SC for finding the formation and tactics to suit this squad. He has said that this isnt the type of football he wants but its needs must. Get to January having learnt from the summer and hopefully we can start to build a better squad for another league 1 campaign. Based on the stats I'd say they dominated, those same stats you have been posting on other posts to say what a great job our defence did (which I agree with). Like I said they dominated but created little, 76% possession, 13 shots, 11 corners but only 2 shots on target backs this up. Apart from that one save from Marosi in the first half I'm struggling to think anything else they created. First half was a non event where they had the ball but did very little, second half was better from our perspective and I think that was partly down to Bowman coming on who was closing down & putting pressure on the MK Dons defence unlike Cosgrove. We can question our attack and lack of midfield but we also have to give the team (and Cotterill) credit for their discipline & organisation in restricting MK to so little. I suppose it depends on what you class as dominating. Yes MK had a lot of possession, especially first half but I put that down to the fact we kept giving the ball away cheaply by trying to force it and MK making comfortable passes around the back. They only opened us up once which led to a decent save. Other than that they never got behind us and we were comfortable throughout. I would actually surmise that we had the better half chances when hitting them on the counter. It also seemed to be our game plan to have the defence a midfield sit deeper to keep things tight whilst the front 3 pressed to try counter off a mistake.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 17, 2021 8:58:32 GMT 1
One word describes him lazy! Thinks himself to good to be playing in our division.I would put him in the reserves, we have had far better players in the past who have at least tried.... that's all we ask. If only we had some reserves.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 17, 2021 10:10:49 GMT 1
I really want Pyke to do well, but he was very poor too - no idea why he replaced Udoh; Udoh didn't look knackered and Bloxham would have been a much better replacement IMO. I said this during the game whilst udoh was still on, I was wondering why the crowd didnt start chanting you dont know what your doing when pyke stood up different side 2nd half , cosgrove must be cringing , udoh playing well but seems so unfit , good time for Tom I say
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 11:02:01 GMT 1
Tried to pause as Udoh strikes the ball. I’d say level, benefit to the attacker. Last year in the PL it’s probably offside with VAR, this year with relaxation of the rules it would probably stand.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 17, 2021 11:35:02 GMT 1
Things look brighter this morning with yesterdays victory.
Mk fans must enjoy watching their side based on yesterdays performance. Really good on the eye but toothless in the final third.
Cotterill performed a tactical masterclass yesterday and set the team up perfectly to absorb MKs gameplay and stepped up a gear second half. Despite having the ball for nearly 80% of the game they never really looked like breaking us down.
Can we do similar at Oxford?
Gulp
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Post by secretshrew on Oct 17, 2021 11:49:26 GMT 1
MK did have lots of possession but it was really worrying how easily they got to the edge of our penalty area and into dangerous positions. A more clinical team could have been 2/3-0 up if they can create a killer pass. Cosgrove isn’t right for us and luckily for him we’re really short of options. Although I can see him chipping in with a vital goal or 2 at some point during the season - if he’s still here. Can we terminate a season-loan early eg is there a break clause like renting a flat?’ I thought Davis was effective today, just needs to be a bit more composed in possession once he’s won the ball.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 17, 2021 12:21:09 GMT 1
Hmm. Negative crowd reaction is not beneficial short term, but it is long term. It gets managers sacked. It gets players dropped. It gets owners out. That's fan power. That's why all football supporters do it. In other words, negative crowd reaction will not help the team today. But it will eventually. Every team that's ever existed will have experienced it. And every team in the future will too. So I disagree that it's 'not helpful' or 'shows a lack of support'. It in fact shows the opposite. As a poster summed it up earlier...should we just politely clap??? I'm not one to boo or hurl abuse etc. Just playing devils advocate here. Negative crowd reaction might sometimes help bring about change (though not in isolation) but the change isn't necessarily beneficial. I'd guess things stay the same or get worse at least as often as they get better - though I haven't a shred of evidence to back that up! Can't recall negative crowd reaction getting many owners out though. Anyone have any examples?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 17, 2021 12:40:41 GMT 1
Things look brighter this morning with yesterdays victory. Mk fans must enjoy watching their side based on yesterdays performance. Really good on the eye but toothless in the final third. Cotterill performed a tactical masterclass yesterday and set the team up perfectly to absorb MKs gameplay and stepped up a gear second half. Despite having the ball for nearly 80% of the game they never really looked like breaking us down. Can we do similar at Oxford? Gulp yes it worked and im glad it worked but against better teams im not sure it will, but then what choices do we have as in open play without the midfield sitting deep we have been opened up far to often
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Post by darkshrew on Oct 17, 2021 12:50:14 GMT 1
Tried to pause as Udoh strikes the ball. I’d say level, benefit to the attacker. Last year in the PL it’s probably offside with VAR, this year with relaxation of the rules it would probably stand. From block 14 I could see two things: 1. the linesman was not up with play at all; & 2) Bowan was at least a yard offside. But sometimes they have to go in our favour don't they? The linesman was behind play quite a bit and it wasn't the only duff decision - how he missed the elbow in the back of Bennett's head I do not know as that was directly in his line of vision and was in the path of the ball.
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 17, 2021 12:58:27 GMT 1
A thin squad is going to be stretched to breaking point for the Oxford game if Davis and Nurse are injured. I think Leahy is serving a one-match ban for five bookings and if Vela and Pierre are still carrying knocks we'll struggle to fill the bench and could be fielding a number of players out of position.
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