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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Oct 17, 2021 13:07:01 GMT 1
A thin squad is going to be stretched to breaking point for the Oxford game if Davis and Nurse are injured. I think Leahy is serving a one-match ban for five bookings and if Vela and Pierre are still carrying knocks we'll struggle to fill the bench and could be fielding a number of players out of position. I'd be surprised if all of them miss out but if they do I had a stab at the team - anyone that isn't a striker has to play and bench is v limited. 4231 Marosi Daniels Pennington EEL Ogbeta Leshabela Bennett Bloxham Whalley Udoh Bowman Bench Burgoyne Wilson Lloyd Caton Pyke Cosgrove + 1 other youth player
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 17, 2021 13:28:55 GMT 1
Could be back to two goalies on the bench again.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 17, 2021 15:28:09 GMT 1
Hard to tell as the picture's annoyingly overlaid by Sky when I freeze it but he certainly looks onside to me. Very clever finish.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 17, 2021 17:01:21 GMT 1
Definitely on side the MK players haven’t got their arms in the air gesticulating wildly at any one who cared to watch.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 17, 2021 17:47:00 GMT 1
Definitely on side the MK players haven’t got their arms in the air gesticulating wildly at any one who cared to watch. I'd say the Lino if on the other side flags but its certainly touch and go, bowman is off, but the man tight to bowman may just be playing whalley on, would have been a harsh flag Attachments:
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 17, 2021 19:29:51 GMT 1
Can't recall negative crowd reaction getting many owners out though. Anyone have any examples? Oystons at Blackpool and Cashley at Newcastle spring to mind
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 17, 2021 19:33:59 GMT 1
Hamilton---- at wxm !!!!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 17, 2021 21:39:13 GMT 1
Felt Whalley was played onside by their number 6. If anything Bowman was offside.
Having watched the full game it seems that the MK Dons manager at half time said to them "same again lads". One paced and completely satisfied with retaining possession in inconsequential areas of the pitch.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 18, 2021 0:00:37 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game?
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Oct 18, 2021 1:32:46 GMT 1
Well done to the Town on their 1-0 win against MK Don's on Saturday.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 18, 2021 6:43:23 GMT 1
It was tight for sure but thankfully the flag stayed down. It was Whalley who broke up the MK attack that led to the goal too. And a superb finish to boot (soon after that cracker at Ipswich). He's 34 and yet looks as fit as he ever has and looks as though he still has more in the tank. I have no idea whether there was any real chance he wouldn't have been with us this season (I recall there was some chat on here about that) but thankfully he's still here...👍
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Post by northwestman on Oct 18, 2021 10:00:05 GMT 1
It was tight for sure but thankfully the flag stayed down. It was Whalley who broke up the MK attack that led to the goal too. And a superb finish to boot (soon after that cracker at Ipswich). He's 34 and yet looks as fit as he ever has and looks as though he still has more in the tank. I have no idea whether there was any real chance he wouldn't have been with us this season (I recall there was some chat on here about that) but thankfully he's still here...👍 Rumour has it that he may have been offered a 2 year contract at Tranmere, but chose to exercise a 1 year option he had in his contract to stay here.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 18, 2021 10:02:31 GMT 1
Yes it was definitely reported that he exercised the one year option to stay. Thank goodness.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 18, 2021 10:03:52 GMT 1
+ Moss and Roberts - also at Wrexham.
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Post by blamber on Oct 18, 2021 10:30:22 GMT 1
Definitely on side the MK players haven’t got their arms in the air gesticulating wildly at any one who cared to watch. I'd say the Lino if on the other side flags but its certainly touch and go, bowman is off, but the man tight to bowman may just be playing whalley on, would have been a harsh flag I agree, I think Bowman is marginally offside but Whalley, for me, definitely onside. I wonder if Whalley had squared to Bowman whether the flag would have gone up.
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 18, 2021 10:38:29 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game? Ive thought this after every game this season. I certainly wouldnt like Stuart Dunns job. Contrast this latest interview with the one given by Dennis Green the Telford manager after their victory on Saturday. What a pleasant manner he had about him. Hope he is given the chance to take the job on full time.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 18, 2021 10:51:44 GMT 1
Whalley is quite the late developer, I counted 10 (mostly non league) clubs before he signed for us.
Well done Mickey Mellon for spotting potential.
There may have been some backlash on here when we signed someone who had been on loan at Telford!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 11:13:15 GMT 1
Whalley is quite the late developer, I counted 10 (mostly non league) clubs before he signed for us. Well done Mickey Mellon for spotting potential. There may have been some backlash on here when we signed someone who had been on loan at Telford! I didn't realise he was also at Wrexham, so we don't hate everyone who has a connection to Wrexham & Telford Anyway, here is the reaction to him signing, very predictable in the sense that he was useless when he signed and then a few months later fans were complaining that he wasn't being played The funniest comment I've found was someone saying they didn't want us to sign Leon Clarke (on page 3), I wonder what their reaction was 5 years later when he signed blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/90588/shaun-wally
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 18, 2021 11:42:05 GMT 1
Whalley is quite the late developer, I counted 10 (mostly non league) clubs before he signed for us. Well done Mickey Mellon for spotting potential. There may have been some backlash on here when we signed someone who had been on loan at Telford! I didn't realise he was also at Wrexham, so we don't hate everyone who has a connection to Wrexham & Telford Anyway, here is the reaction to him signing, very predictable in the sense that he was useless when he signed and then a few months later fans were complaining that he wasn't being played The funniest comment I've found was someone saying they didn't want us to sign Leon Clarke (on page 3), I wonder what their reaction was 5 years later when he signed blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/90588/shaun-wallyOur posters come out of that thread looking better than I expected! What a strong squad we had at the start of the 2015/16 season.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 18, 2021 12:14:38 GMT 1
Can't recall negative crowd reaction getting many owners out though. Anyone have any examples? Oystons at Blackpool and Cashley at Newcastle spring to mind I wouldn't be so sure about either of those examples. The Oystons owned Blackpool for 32 years! It a High Court judgment against them to finally encourage them to sell. Fans boycotting the club, throwing tennis balls on the pitch etc etc - made no difference. As for Ashley, he got exactly what he wanted - £300m return on his £55m investment. Given that he owned Newcastle for 14 years and was unpopular with fans for most of them, I don't think even the most diehard Ashley hater would claim that their actions forced him out.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 18, 2021 12:26:35 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game? Ive thought this after every game this season. I certainly wouldnt like Stuart Dunns job. Contrast this latest interview with the one given by Dennis Green the Telford manager after their victory on Saturday. What a pleasant manner he had about him. Hope he is given the chance to take the job on full time. It needs to be remembered that Mr. Green is hoping to get the job permanently, Telford had just won and as such, the interview with the radio will have done no harm to his chances. Let’s see how he comes across when they lose badly if he gets the job. Also, and I may be wrong in this but we have no idea what medication SC may still be on and how this may be affecting his interviews. I’m sure I have read that steroids, if he is still on them, can make people aggressive over a period of time. He is being interviewed straight after a match during which his adrenaline will have been at full pelt anyway. It may be that his stance is naturally aggressive, I don’t know, but it may also be that there are other factors involved. No one will have got through what he has without being bolshy and determined that’s for sure. I met some fans on Saturday who had met him in Shrewsbury and said how pleasant he had been. I’m certainly prepared to cut him some slack for a bit longer.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 18, 2021 12:26:38 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game? Ive thought this after every game this season. I certainly wouldnt like Stuart Dunns job. Contrast this latest interview with the one given by Dennis Green the Telford manager after their victory on Saturday. What a pleasant manner he had about him. Hope he is given the chance to take the job on full time. There's no pressure on Green though. He's not been asked to take on the job permanently, he's not responsible for anything that's happened before and he has no baggage with the club or fans - and his team won. Who couldn't be pleasant in that position!? Cotterill's a prickly character, that's clear enough. When he made that winning start we all thought he was a top bloke, and a lot of fans from his old clubs said the same. He's a bit thin-skinned and obviously feels the pressure when his team's struggling and can't hide it. Most of us would be the same, I suspect. Dunn's an experienced journalist, he'll be used to dealing with difficult people and situations. I hope Cotterill's nurturing an 'us against the world' mentality in the dressing room because we'll need that spirit more than giving pleasant interviews if we're going to stay up.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 18, 2021 13:08:04 GMT 1
Of all the time that a Town employee has a mic under his nose, what proportion is it Cotterill's? Cotterill is probably better placed to get the team out of the mess that Cotterill has got it into than anyone else we could realistically employ. That doesn't mean he's the best person to take post match interviews. Especially if he is this paranoid about people, for example, mentioning that it's a long time since we kept a clean sheet.
To keep him onside the questions he is asked post match are barely worth asking.
By the same token we don't hear much from Wycherley compared, say, to the Pereborough chairman, because it's not his forte. It's just that Wycherley sees that.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 18, 2021 13:19:57 GMT 1
I his answer re the clean sheet to be focussed on not criticising our defence players or our goalkeeper for past results in public. If, as is continually reported, they are a close net set of players, supporting them publicly must play a big part of that.
What is said in private is another matter of course.
And he’s right to an extent - I would rather win 2-1 than lose 1-0.
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 18, 2021 13:53:21 GMT 1
I his answer re the clean sheet to be focussed on not criticising our defence players or our goalkeeper for past results in public. If, as is continually reported, they are a close net set of players, supporting them publicly must play a big part of that. What is said in private is another matter of course. And he’s right to an extent - I would rather win 2-1 than lose 1-0. Paul Hurst much preferred winning 1-0 to winning 4-3.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 18, 2021 13:58:55 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game? He’s been like that in every interview I’ve heard. He did seem to be trying to make a point, possibly that the interviewer hadn’t asked how Bowman was at the start of the Ipswich interview that we only ever heard the beginning of. He just sounds defensive and unhappy but comes across as it’s not my fault…
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 18, 2021 14:01:03 GMT 1
I his answer re the clean sheet to be focussed on not criticising our defence players or our goalkeeper for past results in public. If, as is continually reported, they are a close net set of players, supporting them publicly must play a big part of that. What is said in private is another matter of course. And he’s right to an extent - I would rather win 2-1 than lose 1-0. Paul Hurst much preferred winning 1-0 to winning 4-3. He did it regular as well.
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 18, 2021 16:16:22 GMT 1
Paul Hurst much preferred winning 1-0 to winning 4-3. He did it regular as well. Not at Ipswich or Sc***horpe though.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 18, 2021 18:28:40 GMT 1
Watching the post match interview with Cotterill, he seems have quite an unpleasant demeanour about him. Is this the afterglow of whatever went on after the last game? He’s been like that in every interview I’ve heard. He did seem to be trying to make a point, possibly that the interviewer hadn’t asked how Bowman was at the start of the Ipswich interview that we only ever heard the beginning of. He just sounds defensive and unhappy but comes across as it’s not my fault… And perhaps it isn't. He might have been in charge of recruitment this summer but, if the budget was restricted, were his hands tied to that extent? Choose any player you like as long as they're within budget. I find it hard to believe Cotterill wanted such a small and unbalanced squad. I don't know, but I'm struggling to find a rational explanation for what happened beyond a tightening of the purse strings. Given that we all believe the club will be sold within the year, perhaps the biggest factor was a desire to strengthen the cash position and minimise the club's contract obligations in preparation for that. All guesswork but I'd want more evidence before I pinned the blame on Cotterill alone.
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