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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jun 12, 2020 18:57:24 GMT 1
Bolton much much much bigger . . . . . . . . . . . . .ground than we have.
No chance of Sam going there.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jun 12, 2020 19:04:07 GMT 1
There's a lot of naive people around, yes Bolton have had a bad few years but realistically next season they will be favourites for promotion, splashing more cash than us, attracting big name players at that level and playing in front of bigger crowds. Yes it will be built on a deck of cards but that doesnt matter in football, money talks and we know Mr Ricketts has shown than he's not shy in putting himself first ahead of club loyalty. Plus from his perspective, he's loved at Bolton and has an opportunity to become a bigger hero there, whereas with us, the jury is still out (at best) and the chance of success on his CV is slim. No idea if there is any truth but personally I wouldn't lose any sleep if he left. The current situation and resultant financial uncertainty probably make it a less likely than usual, but I agree with the general sentiment here. There's numerous examples of a fanbase confidently stating "why would he go there?" but ultimately if the offer's right they will irrespective of league position. Sure many Bradford fans didn't see Phil Parkinson making the move to Bolton a few years ago when they were in the same division (although Bolton were in a better position then, admittedly)
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Post by silverdaleshrew on Jun 12, 2020 19:46:05 GMT 1
I thought Keith Hill was brought into Bolton with more than half an eye on League 2 given their woeful predicament when he over particularly as he has form for taking Rochdale out of that league. SR has no promotions on his managerial CV so far so it’s a strange decision to dismiss Hill unless Hill himself doesn’t like what he sees at Bolton. I believe their finances aren’t exactly great according to one Bolton fan I know.
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Post by tdk on Jun 12, 2020 21:23:59 GMT 1
How long does SR have left on his contract? He can't be over-confident of a new one from Town given a lot of unhappy supporters. A new long term contract might tempt him, and he might (marginally) improve their terrible goalscoring record
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 22:30:09 GMT 1
SR 12/1 on sky bet.barrow boss looks more likely at moment with what ive read.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jun 12, 2020 23:48:03 GMT 1
I also see Hurst is on the list of runners and riders for the post. I could see that being their guy even after the mess he left at Ipswich and Sc***horpe. Toto also had a loan spell at Bolton so he might follow him there on a permanent basis.
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Post by Stavvy on Jun 13, 2020 10:07:18 GMT 1
Confirmed that Keith Hill and his Assistant David Flitcroft have left Bolton Wanderers.
As others has said, I would be amazed if Ricketts went there, and the current favourite is Ian Evatt from Barrow.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 13, 2020 10:14:06 GMT 1
It's nice in a way to have our man talked about in relation to other jobs rather than the dole queue.
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 13, 2020 10:22:15 GMT 1
I would like to see Hurst get the job. Its been good following his career at other clubs. He probably has one more chance to get it right at League level before ending up on the short list at Wrexham. Wherever he goes he will probably have to take a short term contract as Askey did at Port Vale to prove himself. Doubt theres anymore big pay offs for failure.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 13, 2020 12:40:50 GMT 1
we had some hot debates earlier in the year on here
if we'd listened to a few then we'd have changed the management team at great expense, splashed most of our money of loan signings
and ....
can anyone imagine the s**t we would be in now ?
ok
time for those few to appear again soon and say exactly the same things again
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Post by scooter on Jun 13, 2020 15:31:54 GMT 1
I would have thought any team in the bottom two divisions looking for a new manager would start with Nigel Clough
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Post by crayfish on Jun 13, 2020 16:13:32 GMT 1
There might of been some logic in going to Bolton if they had moneybags new owners but it appeared that the new owners had problems paying the wages when they over and Bolton are still in fianancal trouble. This is obviously the worst time ever to have fianancial problems and it would not be any surprise to see them go completely bankrupt. If I was Ricketts agent I would be telling him not to touch them with a ten foot barge pole. I would not be surprised to see a dozen or more clubs in bankruptcy by the start of next season
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 10:35:08 GMT 1
Looks like gary bowyer is favourite for the job according to alan nixon a so called in the know sun journalist.I do realise that the rag known as the sun newspaper has never employed an in the know journo,but hes been saying this was happening way back in march,so you do wonder if theres somthing in it.Our manager they couldnt afford even if he would go,which im sure he wouldnt give up the best run club out of the 92 to go work in an asylum which is BWFC.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 14, 2020 10:44:15 GMT 1
Looks like gary bowyer is favourite for the job Perfect.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jun 14, 2020 15:16:57 GMT 1
Having no football for 3 months has made me appreciate what we had even more. In Ricketts we trust. Same.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 14, 2020 19:26:16 GMT 1
Hill sacking seems a little strange. Not as if he had any chance of keeping them up. It was a given they would be relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 20:04:18 GMT 1
Hill sacking seems a little strange. Not as if he had any chance of keeping them up. It was a given they would be relegated. The usual bland club statement: “Following on from this week's announcement by the EFL and confirmation that Bolton Wanderers will be playing in Sky Bet League Two next season, we believe it to be in the best interests of the Club that we have a fresh approach to our management and coaching structure for the next season and beyond..." It could mean anything!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 14, 2020 20:10:34 GMT 1
Hill sacking seems a little strange. Not as if he had any chance of keeping them up. It was a given they would be relegated. The usual bland club statement: “Following on from this week's announcement by the EFL and confirmation that Bolton Wanderers will be playing in Sky Bet League Two next season, we believe it to be in the best interests of the Club that we have a fresh approach to our management and coaching structure for the next season and beyond..." It could mean anything! So I guess they mean someone cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 20:25:26 GMT 1
The usual bland club statement: “Following on from this week's announcement by the EFL and confirmation that Bolton Wanderers will be playing in Sky Bet League Two next season, we believe it to be in the best interests of the Club that we have a fresh approach to our management and coaching structure for the next season and beyond..." It could mean anything! So I guess they mean someone cheaper. Indeed. They are still under a transfer embargo for another 12 months so clearly their options are limited. I can see them recruiting from within, most likely David Lee will step up from his assistant role.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 14, 2020 20:25:36 GMT 1
I'd say it almost certainly means they cant afford his wages in league 2 but did have a relegation release clause in the contract
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 22:57:16 GMT 1
Who cares who they appoint we will still have our sam to thrill and exite us next season.cough,cough.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 15, 2020 0:44:47 GMT 1
Who cares who they appoint we will still have our sam to thrill and exite us next season.cough,cough. I bet I could name more exciting games under sam than I could under many town managers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 10:07:00 GMT 1
Who cares who they appoint we will still have our sam to thrill and exite us next season.cough,cough. I bet I could name more exciting games under sam than I could under many town managers Yes that one shot at goal away to liverpool under 18s was particulary exiting.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jun 15, 2020 10:16:44 GMT 1
He won't drop down a division to a less financially stable club with less resources than ours which also has higher expectations. He's got all his old Wolves guys here too so he's got 'his' squad to work with. Wouldn't be upset if he went though. That guy Clough didn't do a bad job at Burton down the road did he? That guy Clough has been in talks with Birmingham.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 15, 2020 11:02:26 GMT 1
I bet I could name more exciting games under sam than I could under many town managers Yes that one shot at goal away to liverpool under 18s was particulary exiting. That’s unfair it was a full strength team it would appear. The FA said so!!!!
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Post by Pilch on Jun 15, 2020 11:16:44 GMT 1
I bet I could name more exciting games under sam than I could under many town managers Yes that one shot at goal away to liverpool under 18s was particulary exiting. town 1 v 1 stoke stoke 2 v 3 town town 2 v 2 wolves Bradford 4 v 3 town wolves 3 v 2 town pboro 1 v 2 town town 2 v 3 Oxford town 1 v 0 Pompey acky 2 v 3 town town 4 v 3 southend town 1 v 0 Sunderland town 3 v 4 bristol r town 1 v 0 bristol c town 2 v 2 liverpool town 2 v 3 tranmere town 2 v 3 Oxford boring boring sam
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Post by theriverside on Jun 15, 2020 12:19:52 GMT 1
Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Fleetwood Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Charlton Blackpool 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Luton Shrewsbury 0 - 0 AFC W'bledon Shrewsbury 0 - 2 Portsmouth Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Sc***horpe Barnsley 2 - 1 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Walsall MK Dons 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 4 Rotherham Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Rochdale Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Burton Ipswich 3 - 0 Shrewsbury Rotherham 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Fleetwood Lincoln 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Gillingham Wycombe 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Oxford 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 2 Rotherham Bolton 1 - 1 Shrewsbury Doncaster 2 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Lincoln Gillingham 2 - 0 Shrewsbury Rochdale 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 MK Dons Shrewsbury 0 - 2 Accrington Portsmouth 2 - 0. Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 0 Doncaster
PILCH we can all cut and paste results into this as above. we’re mainly realists who know we’re not going to play like world beaters every week, but the lack of ambition in most league games (nothing to lose in the cup so you can see the change in mindset) has been so clear. The set up at home especially has made it impossible to find positives even in the rare wins, the stats on goals scored and particularly first half goals scream ‘negative attitude’ at you. My lad who really has got into his football just wasn’t bothered to come to many games last year, and he’s old enough to get that we aren’t going to win every week but just wants too see a bit off desire to take the game to the opposition occasionally........
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Post by Pilch on Jun 15, 2020 12:44:21 GMT 1
Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Fleetwood Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Charlton Blackpool 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Luton Shrewsbury 0 - 0 AFC W'bledon Shrewsbury 0 - 2 Portsmouth Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Sc***horpe Barnsley 2 - 1 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Walsall MK Dons 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 4 Rotherham Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Rochdale Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Burton Ipswich 3 - 0 Shrewsbury Rotherham 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 0 - 3 Fleetwood Lincoln 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Gillingham Wycombe 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Oxford 0 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 2 Rotherham Bolton 1 - 1 Shrewsbury Doncaster 2 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 Lincoln Gillingham 2 - 0 Shrewsbury Rochdale 1 - 0 Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 1 MK Dons Shrewsbury 0 - 2 Accrington Portsmouth 2 - 0. Shrewsbury Shrewsbury 1 - 0 Doncaster PILCH we can all cut and paste results into this as above. we’re mainly realists who know we’re not going to play like world beaters every week, but the lack of ambition in most league games (nothing to lose in the cup so you can see the change in mindset) has been so clear. The set up at home especially has made it impossible to find positives even in the rare wins, the stats on goals scored and particularly first half goals scream ‘negative attitude’ at you. My lad who really has got into his football just wasn’t bothered to come to many games last year, and he’s old enough to get that we aren’t going to win every week but just wants too see a bit off desire to take the game to the opposition occasionally........ but my point was that I could name more exciting games under Sam than I could under most town managers and those games I’ve listed are almost all within 1 year if you support town you have to give and take or at least be realistic I’m quite happy to see a young fresh manager continue to learn his trade here rather than one of the overpriced Merry go round fools who nearly always fail anyway I thinks it’s reasonable to hope for us to finish top half this season but also reasonable to expect reaching the play offs is going to be very difficult , he has a contract until the end of the season and so far everything is going to plan and I’m satisfied with him I just hope he’s given a fair chance again this season
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jun 15, 2020 15:55:29 GMT 1
I think the vast majority of fans will give Ricketts a fair chance next season. It was promising how we were often playing with a front three at the end of last season and the emergence of Udoh as a centreforward was a big plus. Yes we were negative at home at times in the league but I am sure Ricketts will have learned from that and not be quite so safety first next season. Its a bit unfair to cite the Liverpool away game as an example of negative tactics - the plan certainly was to keep it tight but I just think the occasion got to several of our lads and we never had the confidence to get up the pitch enough.Even given that Liverpool did not look like scoring until that farcical own goal and I will always maintain we did score a fair goal - you dont often see VAR overturn a goal for a marginal offside decision three phases back in the play.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 16, 2020 8:52:15 GMT 1
Where have you read this out of interest? Well no great source of any reliability.Its long drawn out tale,i was reading an article on lord leverhume and links to his rascist background.then i ended up on the bolton news site their local rag.There i saw the bolton manager may be leaving the club,and from there ended up reading a few fans comments especialy a fans forum called wanderers ways.On that site alot of their fans are very keen on ricketts one comment said there was a news link but never found it.Hope your happy now,told you it ws long drawn out story. Thank you for bringing football back to the board - has been a long time. Hopefully conjecture about player signings and departures will pick up too.
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