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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 31, 2019 18:24:59 GMT 1
On the way back and don’t feel down about that defeat at all.
I’m a big critic of Ricketts & refrained from a post Plymouth away style rant last week after the catastrophically boring Burton 0 0 but today, today I enjoyed what we tried to do.
I personally thought the game was even with the goals being against the run of play even at such an early time but completely of our own making - fair play to Ipswich, they didn’t & probably won’t ever make the mistakes Salop did in bad areas today & Norwood is top class. Them two things alone will see them challenge all season.
We were the better team with 10 men and then they well & truly killed it with the 3rd. We had chances so I can’t really blame a negative set up for once, and 2 of the goals against us were naivety rather than a problem with 3 5 2.
It certainly didn’t deserve ridiculous chants of ‘let’s pretend we scored a goal’. Embarrassing.
Only criticism from me is for Edwards who seems to get away with a lot that others wouldn’t. Morison was better when A) slightly angry & B) when players were closer to him. I would go with someone else if there was a fit option, though. Oh and Kettle..... another joke of a performance. Maybe Whalley deserved his second yellow, but if he did I would like to see explanations for countless Ipswich fouls that went unpunished. Or the hand ball towards the end... thank flip it was already 3 0...... I hate him.
Think the break is needed & Wimbledon is a good chance to bounce back when it comes around.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 31, 2019 18:28:33 GMT 1
Let’s be honest here everyone. Our season is not going to be defined by going to places like Ipswich. It’s a shame and not a great result but again we are exactly where we need to be- comfortably mid table. We still know we need a striker but we aren’t far off a good team for this league. If you’d have told me at the start of the season we would have 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses after last season I’d have bitten your hand off so I can’t grumble. all good points and once we have a all the options available and all players fully fit plus and a good forward,it will be intresting to see how we perform. An area of concern for me is that we have now had three games were they have conceeded two goals in quick succession, we need to work on our game managment after we conceed and have a player who can slow things down and retain possesssion.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 31, 2019 18:35:13 GMT 1
I hear some sort of incident happened in our stand towards the end? The usual quiet Lower Alf Ramsey stand got louder and seemed to be amused by something then a load of stewards running towards the front of our stand in the corner and a bit of scuffling going on.
I wasn’t there but this is only what I heard.
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Post by tvor on Aug 31, 2019 18:35:20 GMT 1
Ricketts post-match. audioboom.com/posts/7356421-sam-ricketts-post-ipswich-townHe's obviously not happy with the penalty decision, but from the highlights it's not easy to say whether it was inside or outside the 18 yard box. The team selection at Port Vale on Tuesday night will be interesting given that in theory he could select a slightly stronger side given we have no game on Saturday but also we will be without Beckles and Pierre and, presumably, also Giles.
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Post by andycapp on Aug 31, 2019 19:01:55 GMT 1
Didn’t go to the game, but just watched the highlights. Very disappointed with Whalley’s reaction to getting sent off, he seemed to find it very amusing. I can’t speak for the first booking because I haven’t seen it, but the second one looked fully justified and he can have few complaints.
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Post by masshrop on Aug 31, 2019 20:51:40 GMT 1
just back , dont know where to start , so start with defence just do the basics please stupid goals to give away , midfield did we even have one , felt for morison again today we need somebody close to him to get on flicks,really on what we've seen so far are we really better than last yr , apart from accrington who fell apart we wont score goals to win games
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 31, 2019 21:58:10 GMT 1
Ricketts emphasised in his post match interview how many chances town had whilst this is true , at the end of the season no one will remember how many chances we had over the season.
"The new season will be all about scoring more goals than the opposition." Alvin Martin
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 31, 2019 22:07:28 GMT 1
Pretty poor by our own recent standards. Sloppy, sloppy for the first (with just a hint of offside), and O'Leary not brilliantly positioned albeit it was an excellent finish. Penalty was soft but was a foul so can't grumble but was a poor finish and O'Leary will surely be disappointed not to keep that out. After that we knew the game was up. Nothing in the middle again but despite that we actually created the best chances after that. Whalley got two stupid bookings, both gave Kettle no choice and we fouled repeatedly as we simply couldn't get ourselves back. Despite having only ten men I thought for the 15 mins either side of half time we were much the better side but still didn't really look like scoring and the well worked third against tired legs killed us off. Only question after that was how many they'd get but thankfully no more. Kettle bottled a booking for one of their players who pulled Morison down (who should also have been booked) and Kettle bottled an absolute nailed on penalty for handball late one. Think I was the only one who clapped Nolan when he came on. Having one of the greatest moments of my life by being right behind the line of his rocket at Charlton is something I'll always be grateful for.
A bit of a non event atmosphere wise from both sides and plenty of absolute morons in the town centre afterwards giving it large despite the fact that A) I was old enough to be their dad and B) I was walking with my son in full Ipswiwch kit as he'd been one of their mascots.
Because of my Suffolk connection I've looked forward to that one for a while but it's certainly not somewhere I'll be disappointed about if we never have to go again.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 31, 2019 22:14:38 GMT 1
Pretty poor by our own recent standards. Sloppy, sloppy for the first (with just a hint of offside), and O'Leary not brilliantly positioned albeit it was an excellent finish. Penalty was soft but was a foul so can't grumble but was a poor finish and O'Leary will surely be disappointed not to keep that out. After that we knew the game was up. Nothing in the middle again but despite that we actually created the best chances after that. Whalley got two stupid bookings, both gave Kettle no choice and we fouled repeatedly as we simply couldn't get ourselves back. Despite having only ten men I thought for the 15 mins either side of half time we were much the better side but still didn't really look like scoring and the well worked third against tired legs killed us off. Only question after that was how many they'd get but thankfully no more. Kettle bottled a booking for one of their players who pulled Morison down (who should also have been booked) and Kettle bottled an absolute nailed on penalty for handball late one. Think I was the only one who clapped Nolan when he came on. Having one of the greatest moments of my life by being right behind the line of his rocket at Charlton is something I'll always be grateful for. A bit of a non event atmosphere wise from both sides and plenty of absolute morons in the town centre afterwards giving it large despite the fact that A) I was old enough to be their dad and B) I was walking with my son in full Ipswiwch kit as he'd been one of their mascots. Because of my Suffolk connection I've looked forward to that one for a while but it's certainly not somewhere I'll be disappointed about if we never have to go again. i am sorry to hear about your experience after the match and hope it did not unsettle your son.
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 31, 2019 22:21:02 GMT 1
Despite having only ten men I thought for the 15 mins either side of half time we were much the better side but still didn't really look like scoring. I’m genuinely not having a go here, your assessment is pretty much bang on but... this particular phrase seems to come out whenever we fail to score and it baffles me. Against Burton almost nothing happened but two headed chances, hitting the post & Laurent efforts in either half weren’t enough for us to have looked like scoring?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 31, 2019 22:26:51 GMT 1
Despite having only ten men I thought for the 15 mins either side of half time we were much the better side but still didn't really look like scoring. I’m genuinely not having a go here, your assessment is pretty much bang on but... this particular phrase seems to come out whenever we fail to score and it baffles me. Against Burton almost nothing happened but two headed chances, hitting the post & Laurent efforts in either half weren’t enough for us to have looked like scoring? No, fair one, albeit the point I was making was that Laurent didn't trouble the keeper when he hit the post and should have, Morisons header was over and weak and surely covered by the keeper had it been on target, the other Laurent effort drew a world class save from Holy and the effort in the 2nd half (I can't recall who) where they tried to lob a 6 foot 9 inch keeper was really powerpuff. We definitely looked more composed during that period and saw more of the ball but just a feeling we're not clinical enough when it comes to scoring goals and nothing I saw today convinced me otherwise.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 1, 2019 8:44:07 GMT 1
I hear some sort of incident happened in our stand towards the end? The usual quiet Lower Alf Ramsey stand got louder and seemed to be amused by something then a load of stewards running towards the front of our stand in the corner and a bit of scuffling going on. I wasn’t there but this is only what I heard. I was towards the back but think the Ipswich fans were laughing and mimicking Bizzys ‘enthusiastic support’ in a light hearted way which caused some of the more vocal support to go down the front and vulgarly abuse sections of what were mainly family supporters with such friendly chants as ‘does she take it up the ass’ ‘she’s got Chlomidia’ and general aggression....... funny if your a drunken yob but not their finest hour .....
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 1, 2019 8:48:08 GMT 1
Despite having only ten men I thought for the 15 mins either side of half time we were much the better side but still didn't really look like scoring. I’m genuinely not having a go here, your assessment is pretty much bang on but... this particular phrase seems to come out whenever we fail to score and it baffles me. Against Burton almost nothing happened but two headed chances, hitting the post & Laurent efforts in either half weren’t enough for us to have looked like scoring? Not to mention two worldy saves by their keeper in the second half
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Post by CopthorneShrew on Sept 1, 2019 9:28:23 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! Don’t say I didn’t warn you - and yes I did travel yesterday!
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Sept 1, 2019 9:31:58 GMT 1
I’m genuinely not having a go here, your assessment is pretty much bang on but... this particular phrase seems to come out whenever we fail to score and it baffles me. Against Burton almost nothing happened but two headed chances, hitting the post & Laurent efforts in either half weren’t enough for us to have looked like scoring? Not to mention two worldy saves by their keeper in the second half Honestly, i don't recall either of those. I remember a simple catch from a weak lob as being pretty much his only save in the 2nd half.
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Post by wakemanender on Sept 1, 2019 9:57:50 GMT 1
And the good news. Wrexham and Scunny both lost at home.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 1, 2019 10:04:22 GMT 1
And the good news. Wrexham and Scunny both lost at home. Only 1 team to be relegated to the National League this year. So Sc***horpe will need to remain at the bottom.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 1, 2019 10:10:01 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! Don’t say I didn’t warn you - and yes I did travel yesterday! we lost away to the league leaders who have just come down from a higher league for the first time since before I can remember I listened to the game and it sounded like we were better than the scoreline suggested and considering we were down to 10 men early on on all I can say is this happens occasionally to sides who are expected to finish mid table and you want to make a change on the back of it ? oh dear
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 1, 2019 10:20:01 GMT 1
Once again can't fault the work rate. I've seen every game and they've put in shift in in every one of them. But that's just not enough. As Chris Wilder said last Saturday, that's a given and players shouldn't get credit for that. I suppose so but not so much credit, my point is it's not from want of trying that we're not getting on the scoresheet. I can't fault their effort. Its something else that is lacking. At the moment anyhow.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Sept 1, 2019 10:21:04 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! Don’t say I didn’t warn you - and yes I did travel yesterday! Time for a change of what? Manager, which would have someone new inherit a squad of players without any room for movement until January? Or change the players within the next 24 hours? Unless there is another change I am missing then it would be interesting to know your proposed plans for improvement.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 1, 2019 10:25:23 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! As in the manager? Bit early for that. If things do continue as is then I think we will struggle (and I know we have the second best start at this level but if you can't score it will catch up with us) but let's wait until we have everyone back and Ricketts is finished in the transfer market. Way too early to talk about a change.
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 1, 2019 10:46:57 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! Don’t say I didn’t warn you - and yes I did travel yesterday! What an idiot.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 1, 2019 10:53:39 GMT 1
Let’s be honest here guys, Ipswich are by far the best team in this division and should win the league. We will get games like this where we get rolled over, no need to panic. Let’s get that striker on board in the next few days and go again. Commentators comments and stats are pointing towards a reasonably even game, the annoying thing is it's our mistakes and lack of discipline in Whalley's case that sees us 0-2 down. sloppy play a lack of common sense and a lack of clinical finishing in the last third contributed to our defeat today
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Post by Mr Brightside on Sept 1, 2019 12:31:42 GMT 1
Ricketts post-match. audioboom.com/posts/7356421-sam-ricketts-post-ipswich-townHe's obviously not happy with the penalty decision, but from the highlights it's not easy to say whether it was inside or outside the 18 yard box. The team selection at Port Vale on Tuesday night will be interesting given that in theory he could select a slightly stronger side given we have no game on Saturday but also we will be without Beckles and Pierre and, presumably, also Giles. It was difficult to say at the time, seemed 50/50 from my angle but highlights show it clearly outside the box.
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Post by TheFoz on Sept 1, 2019 13:14:20 GMT 1
Using the “Expected Goals” model, we matched Ipswich.
The score line doesn’t always indicate the level of the performance.
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Post by blazey on Sept 1, 2019 13:16:09 GMT 1
Had a good trip down, but probably one of the most forgettable towns you will ever visit. Saw the ropey pub opposite the station and walked past some pricey bars on the waterside, but couldn’t find anything else pre-match? Even struggled to find even a post match off licence... Polish shop near the station saved the day!
The stand had a bit of character about it, but view of the pitch was poor, which is pretty outrageous given the £27 ticket price...
I felt down about our performance during the match and on the way home. The formation and way we play seem a waste of time once we go a goal down, particularly if it’s early on, and I didn’t feel we really laid a glove on Ipswich who cruised to a fairly routine three points (it feels quite a while since we did the same tbh). I still feel our main issues are in midfield, Edwards form in particular is a real concern, and he could certainly do with an extended “rest”.
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Post by tractorgirl86 on Sept 1, 2019 14:14:30 GMT 1
What a garbage can of a stadium. On arrival they had run out of tea there were only 2 toilets in the ladies and both had flooded half time. There was very little leg room in the stadium but credit to the ipsh**e fans the stadium looked nearly full but our fans as usual loud and superb drowned them out. This Ref as usual is an absolute disgrace. My MOM surprisingly for me was Beckles! He won a lot of balls and headers and his passing was much better and he made an effort ( as they all did) instead of strolling in the park. I thought we played ok some poor passing but fought hard. I’ll leave the technical side to those with the knowledge No idea where our goals are going to come from as we are as usual lacking in confidence in front of goal. Got the photo got the programme not sure I’ll be in a hurry to return.? Onwards and upwards. COYB
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Post by tractorgirl86 on Sept 1, 2019 14:17:15 GMT 1
Lol some of these comments are so funny how you think Shrewsbury were better than ipswich is a laugh and as for the one who said you all drowned us out, did you go to the right game... at Portman road the Shrewsbury fans forgot their voices
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Post by 18stfc86 on Sept 1, 2019 15:48:40 GMT 1
Lol some of these comments are so funny how you think Shrewsbury were better than ipswich is a laugh and as for the one who said you all drowned us out, did you go to the right game... at Portman road the Shrewsbury fans forgot their voices I bet that you're that red head that was getting mouthy with your boyfriend when our fans sang chants directed at you. Your fans were s**te. End of.
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Post by accordingtome on Sept 1, 2019 15:56:38 GMT 1
Time for a change before this turns into a miserable relegation battle! Don’t say I didn’t warn you - and yes I did travel yesterday! Time for a change of what? Manager, which would have someone new inherit a squad of players without any room for movement until January? Or change the players within the next 24 hours? Unless there is another change I am missing then it would be interesting to know your proposed plans for improvement. perhaps what copthorne shrew means is a change of manager for one who is tactically aware and doesn't set up not to lose. Boring boring football from a tactically inept inexperienced manager. Jog on Ricketts. Will be in a relegation scrap soon
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