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Post by smurf on Oct 5, 2019 13:06:40 GMT 1
ZEN i am sorry i did not read your last post be for replying i think it will be a great idea, that is not taking the wewe
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 5, 2019 14:17:24 GMT 1
ZEN i am sorry i did not read your last post be for replying i think it will be a great idea, that is not taking the wewe no problem
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Post by neilsalop on Oct 5, 2019 18:12:29 GMT 1
Nice one Neil think you will find even recycled glass has to be reworked needing lots of energy,hempcrete what holds the hemp together do not say Rizlas Glass is one of the very few everyday products that is 100% recyclable 100% of the time and actually doesn't need all that much reworking compared to producing 'new' glass.
Hempcrete has a negative carbon footprint (google it) and although it would not be strong enough on its own to be the foundations of the buildings in the report that Zen posted about, it would go a long way to offset the carbon footprint of the manufactured frames. It also has far superior thermal qualities compared to regular concrete.
Steel frames for the greenhouse (and hempcrete base) could also be made from recycled steel or aluminium.
The heat for the projects comes mostly from heat pumps connected to water treatment plants that are already in service.
As I said, other power usage could come from solar or wind power.
You still haven't answered my question. Why would reducing the amount of CO2 that we are pumping into the atmosphere be a bad thing? Even if it is all a hoax, wouldn't cleaner air be a good thing?
I think that most people realise that to make solar panels and wind turbines we need to use existing energy supplies, but even you can see that the more of these things we produce, the less we need to rely on fossil fuels in their future production.
I was about to call you a Luddite, but that would have been inaccurate, because the Luddites weren't actually against modernisation, instead they were actully in favour of people getting the benefits of new technology, rather than just the mill owners. You on the other hand seem happy to let the fossil fuel industry keep stripping the planet, poisoning the atmosphere and taking every last penny that they can in the process.
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smurf
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Post by smurf on Oct 5, 2019 20:11:03 GMT 1
glass still needs to be melted to make the panels, hempcrete lime and hemp still needs co2 to set so lets get some more into the atmosphere solar panels not real good at night amd wind turbines are no fu----- good at all,no wind no good,too much wind no good if it was not for subsidies they would not be used,They can burn coal and gas in the new fandangled power stations alot cleaner now.The only other cheap clean reliable energy is NUCLEAR (PASS THE TIN HAT PLEASE)
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Post by neilsalop on Oct 6, 2019 10:07:28 GMT 1
glass still needs to be melted to make the panels, hempcrete lime and hemp still needs co2 to set so lets get some more into the atmosphere solar panels not real good at night amd wind turbines are no fu----- good at all,no wind no good,too much wind no good if it was not for subsidies they would not be used,They can burn coal and gas in the new fandangled power stations alot cleaner now.The only other cheap clean reliable energy is NUCLEAR (PASS THE TIN HAT PLEASE) I never said it would be perfect, no system ever will be, but it has got to be better than fossil fuels, high impact agriculture and non-recyclable materials. Solar panels only need daylight, so are still somewhat productive even on dull days. Newer wind turbines are capable of working in higher winds. Although the current costs are eye-watering there are other renewables coming online, such as tidal, river based turbines, bio energy and ground source heat pumps to name but a few. Nuclear energy might not add to CO2 emissions, but even the newest technology stations will still need to get rid of the waste material eventually. The best thing to do with this waste is either to encase it in a concrete building for a thousand years or send it into space, but personally I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a rocket going up with nuclear waste on it. Now neither of those options could be considered as environmentally responsible nor great value for money, especially considering the costs of building nuclear power plants in the first place. So cheap and clean doesn't exactly describe nuclear power. Don't bother with a tin hat, the tin foil one you're currently wearing will be fine.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 6, 2019 14:40:03 GMT 1
a very overlooked and underused transport is the canals , most of the freight is carried by lorries www.iims.org.uk/what-future-for-freight-on-the-uk-canal-network/i apreciate that this is not the answer to large sacle haulage but it has the potential to carry a lot more freight than it currently does. "Back in the 1990s, any guide describing the canals and rivers of Yorkshire and the north eastern part of the network would make a point of emphasising how these large-scale waterways were still busy with freight barges loading several hundred tonnes each" "Cargoes on the Trent, the Aire & Calder Navigation and the Sheffield & South Yorkshire Navigation included coal, stone, oil, gravel and sand. But one by one these traffics disappeared, not necessarily for reasons that were anything to do with the inadequacy of the transport system – deep coal mining was in terminal decline, while a major aggregates trade became surplus to requirements following mergers in the industry. And the same story had been repeated on other larger waterways such as the Severn and the Weaver. By 2014, a couple of years after the Canal & River Trust over from British Waterways, its network was carrying just three regular traffics totalling under 500,000 tonnes a year" brimingham has 35 miles of canals !
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 6, 2019 17:45:29 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 10, 2019 15:45:48 GMT 1
Not sure if everyone caught it but there was a good interview from Andrew Neil yesterday with Extinction Rebellion spokesman Zion Lights...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 17, 2019 8:19:15 GMT 1
Well it would seem that in at least some parts of London people are getting fed up with ER and their antics. State of this... Working people looking to use public transport in order to get to work. They really don't do themselves any favours at times...
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 17, 2019 9:55:22 GMT 1
I’ve just read on the BBC site that commuters pulled them off the top of the train.
On another note Zion Lights is that a real name?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 17, 2019 10:02:35 GMT 1
On another note Zion Lights is that a real name? Yeeeeeah baby, yer dig? I think its pretty cool meself...
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 17, 2019 12:25:30 GMT 1
I’ve just read on the BBC site that commuters pulled them off the top of the train. On another note Zion Lights is that a real name? Good on them, hard working tax payers just trying to get to work and using public transport being blocked by this bunch of freaks!
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Post by neilsalop on Oct 17, 2019 14:26:13 GMT 1
I’ve just read on the BBC site that commuters pulled them off the top of the train. On another note Zion Lights is that a real name? Good on them, hard working tax payers just trying to get to work and using public transport being blocked by this bunch of freaks! I suppose you think Emily Davison was a freak too.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Oct 17, 2019 18:47:46 GMT 1
My view on the climate strikes are;
1. We all have a view about the planet and its abuse that man has inflicted over the years, which if not reigned in will be a disaster for some. But how much does the working man care to do about it, and by that I mean the majority of people in this country. Answer is quite simple we will make a little noise do some recycling and say the right things in the right places, it's called lip service. 2. The protesters themselves unfortunately have very little in common with the majority, financially supported by middle class families, you dont see these so called unemployed people at the job centre, siblings of families that have shares in business who have had a huge contribution on the climate itself. Listening to a radio debate last week they had people who had protested on there and believe you me there wasn't a working class accent in sight. 3. Essentially this is not a protest by the common man, because how many people do you know have taken time off work to join in, answer is very few, either they can't afford to or don't feel strongly enough about it. The last time I remember a real protest by the majority was the poll tax marches, which made the government listen but not for long. 4. Which leads me to suggest that the authorities know that this protest is not widely supported and that is why they will let it run its course and fizzle out. I don't particularly condone the action of the commuters in London today but does that give us an indication about the overall support. 5. Lastly I don't profess to know the answer and I'm not saying protests are wrong, but I dont believe people have the appetite to get off there backsides and give up a few days pay to make a point, unless you can afford to of course.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 18, 2019 7:14:15 GMT 1
I’ve just read on the BBC site that commuters pulled them off the top of the train. On another note Zion Lights is that a real name? Good on them, hard working tax payers just trying to get to work and using public transport being blocked by this bunch of freaks! I gather this isn't your sort of thing then?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 7:26:06 GMT 1
A friend of mine, who happens to be a working woman, a days holiday last week to head to London with other working women to participate in the protest.
Just saying....
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 18, 2019 8:45:40 GMT 1
Fine if she feels she is doing good. Nothing wrong with peaceful demonstrations that do not affect other members of the public from going about their business. I bet she wasn’t one of the idiots climbing on trains and being a nuisance to others who have to work and may well share their good intentions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 11:19:08 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 18, 2019 11:51:53 GMT 1
i was going through london that day on the way to Brighton ( somthing i had arranged months before), with the parts of the northen line and centeral line not working, also a person was hit by a traine on the line at Bexleyheath line which reasulted in virgin trains been cancelled and a two hour back up of services. the underground was like a sauna and the trains were packed . so i would guess some commuters ran out of tolerance .
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