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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 21:26:29 GMT 1
Top half of Div 1 is probably our rightful place but why not want more or at least try. But I have seen the town in the old Div 2/Championship and Crewe In the Championship, Both did well for a few years so I don't see it as just a pipe dream. It as to be our goal or why bother? I'll never believe that any club has a "rightful place." A lot of clubs below us would argue their "rightful place" is higher. They'd be wrong. I'm probably of the same generation as townfanincrewe basically brought up as a Shrewsbury fan in the eighties and the salad years of playing the big teams at the old meadow. For me the last twenty seven years has been a long and painfully unsuccessful attempt at getting back there again. I feel this week will either make or break the opportunity to at least give it a real go at getting back there again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 21:26:49 GMT 1
Top half of Div 1 is probably our rightful place but why not want more or at least try. But I have seen the town in the old Div 2/Championship and Crewe In the Championship, Both did well for a few years so I don't see it as just a pipe dream. It as to be our goal or why bother? I'll never believe that any club has a "rightful place." A lot of clubs below us would argue their "rightful place" is higher. They'd be wrong. Indeed. Our natural level at the moment is yo-yoing between the bottom 2 divisions. But, it doesn't mean it will always be like that.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 10, 2016 21:55:49 GMT 1
I'll never believe that any club has a "rightful place." A lot of clubs below us would argue their "rightful place" is higher. They'd be wrong. I'm probably of the same generation as townfanincrewe basically brought up as a Shrewsbury fan in the eighties and the salad years of playing the big teams at the old meadow. For me the last twenty seven years has been a long and painfully unsuccessful attempt at getting back there again. I feel this week will either make or break the opportunity to at least give it a real go at getting back there again. Unfortunately, I have to suffer a double whammy. I've supported both Town and Worcestershire CCC since the early 1960s. Both had their last season in the sun in 1989, when Town were relegated after 10 years in the Championship, and Worcester won the last of their County Cricket Championships. Since then, the money men have taken over and Sky's financial input has had a negative effect on the smaller clubs in both sports.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 22:04:00 GMT 1
I'm probably of the same generation as townfanincrewe basically brought up as a Shrewsbury fan in the eighties and the salad years of playing the big teams at the old meadow. For me the last twenty seven years has been a long and painfully unsuccessful attempt at getting back there again. I feel this week will either make or break the opportunity to at least give it a real go at getting back there again. Unfortunately, I have to suffer a double whammy. I've supported both Town and Worcestershire CCC since the early 1960s. Both had their last season in the sun in 1989, when Town were relegated after 10 years in the Championship, and Worcester won the last of their County Cricket Championships. Since then, the money men have taken over and Sky's financial input has had a negative effect on the smaller clubs in both sports. The other thing that happened in and around the mid eighties was that the away teams half share of the home gate receipts was stopped. The big boys got fed up of the likes of little old Shrewsbury copping for half the gate from the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea and Man City. We were doing ok out of that until they pulled the plug but that income must've helped keep the Ross Maclaren's, Nige Pearson's, McNally's in our employ.
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Post by shrimpsrgood4u on Oct 10, 2016 22:18:24 GMT 1
I don't think anything will happen until after our game at Notts County tomorrow night , that's if it is to be Jim Bentley which would be a surprise.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 10, 2016 22:20:25 GMT 1
The other thing that happened in and around the mid eighties was that the away teams half share of the home gate receipts was stopped. The big boys got fed up of the likes of little old Shrewsbury copping for half the gate from the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea and Man City. We were doing ok out of that until they pulled the plug but that income must've helped keep the Ross Maclaren's, Nige Pearson's, McNally's in our employ. Yes, that was indeed the beginning of the end of us having even a fair chance to compete, exacerbated by the arrival of Sky money and the Premier League. Meanwhile, the ECB and Sky are trying to marginalise Clubs like Worcester by pushing T20 City Based Franchises.
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Post by Big Mac on Oct 10, 2016 22:31:39 GMT 1
Top half of Div 1 is probably our rightful place but why not want more or at least try. But I have seen the town in the old Div 2/Championship and Crewe In the Championship, Both did well for a few years so I don't see it as just a pipe dream. It as to be our goal or why bother? ''Rightful Place'' no club has a divine right to be anywhere other than their current position. They are there for a reason. In your language Shrewsbury are about ''right'' for a club of it's size. ''Top Half Div 1'' where is that theses days? You sound like one of those Radio Phone-in Callers from Leeds or Sheffield, fans harking on about how their ''massive clubs'' belong in the Premier League when Watford & Bournemouth do not.
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Post by Onest Arry on Oct 10, 2016 23:42:36 GMT 1
Hello to everybody up there in Wales,this is the first time I've posted on here and I got the trouble and strife to do the typing cos you may or may not know I'm a bit dyslexic.We've been reading your board as part of our research to try and set some odds on the manager's job for our local punters in the Smoke but I have to say that you farm boys don't seem to know much about betting.So,out of the kindness of my heart,I will give you the benefit of my professional advice. It's a heck of a big field 100 or more so I'd guess Simpson(Homer that is) and Bond(James)even must be in there somewhere,really confusing for you all especially with a Chairman who's so unpredictable.I personally wouldn't risk any of my hard earned on this one at all but ,if you must have a bet, you may as well go with one of the long shots.Maybe a bullseye on Simpson but I'd only have a pony on Bond.Good luck all.
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Post by shrewder on Oct 11, 2016 7:43:39 GMT 1
Hello to everybody up there in Wales,this is the first time I've posted on here and I got the trouble and strife to do the typing cos you may or may not know I'm a bit dyslexic.We've been reading your board as part of our research to try and set some odds on the manager's job for our local punters in the Smoke but I have to say that you farm boys don't seem to know much about betting.So,out of the kindness of my heart,I will give you the benefit of my professional advice. It's a heck of a big field 100 or more so I'd guess Simpson(Homer that is) and Bond(James)even must be in there somewhere,really confusing for you all especially with a Chairman who's so unpredictable.I personally wouldn't risk any of my hard earned on this one at all but ,if you must have a bet, you may as well go with one of the long shots.Maybe a bullseye on Simpson but I'd only have a pony on Bond.Good luck all.[/. quote] Yes like they always say, betting is a mugs game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 8:49:18 GMT 1
Hello to everybody up there in Wales,this is the first time I've posted on here and I got the trouble and strife to do the typing cos you may or may not know I'm a bit dyslexic.We've been reading your board as part of our research to try and set some odds on the manager's job for our local punters in the Smoke but I have to say that you farm boys don't seem to know much about betting.So,out of the kindness of my heart,I will give you the benefit of my professional advice. It's a heck of a big field 100 or more so I'd guess Simpson(Homer that is) and Bond(James)even must be in there somewhere,really confusing for you all especially with a Chairman who's so unpredictable.I personally wouldn't risk any of my hard earned on this one at all but ,if you must have a bet, you may as well go with one of the long shots.Maybe a bullseye on Simpson but I'd only have a pony on Bond.Good luck all.[/. quote] Yes like they always say, betting is a mugs game. I'd change that to gambling is a mugs game.
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Post by Cellinio on Oct 11, 2016 11:35:23 GMT 1
Hello to everybody up there in Wales,this is the first time I've posted on here and I got the trouble and strife to do the typing cos you may or may not know I'm a bit dyslexic.We've been reading your board as part of our research to try and set some odds on the manager's job for our local punters in the Smoke but I have to say that you farm boys don't seem to know much about betting.So,out of the kindness of my heart,I will give you the benefit of my professional advice. It's a heck of a big field 100 or more so I'd guess Simpson(Homer that is) and Bond(James)even must be in there somewhere,really confusing for you all especially with a Chairman who's so unpredictable.I personally wouldn't risk any of my hard earned on this one at all but ,if you must have a bet, you may as well go with one of the long shots.Maybe a bullseye on Simpson but I'd only have a pony on Bond.Good luck all. Have you considered sacking the misses after writing that out for you? A Dyslexic bookie!! or a Dyslexic Punter!! where do you work/bet? I got a few quid to make dishonestly. How will you know what bet you placed/taken if you cannot read the slip? Which ever way, you have a knowledge of ex/dead managers like someone who's been following Shrewsbury a lot longer than a week since the Manager left
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 11, 2016 19:07:06 GMT 1
Lots of names mentioned for the job but Bentley has six pages. Why. Where did all the speculation come from in the first place. Why Bentley.
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Post by akonku on Oct 11, 2016 19:43:18 GMT 1
Very good point wakeman.. Bet it's none of the already mentioned.
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Post by peterjones1 on Oct 11, 2016 20:41:11 GMT 1
What about someone like Paul Hartley of Dundee. What? When MM went you touted the need for experience and reeled off names like Adkins and Jackett. You've stated you would stop going with Bentley in charge because we could do so much better and because presumably he lacks experience at our level. And now your next gambit is a manager with only I believe three seasons (three promotions I grant you) in management none of which are in English football. Don't get it. Do you want experience or do you want a gamble?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 20:54:22 GMT 1
Ian Sharps if we are going to take a gamble?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 20:13:53 GMT 1
The other thing that happened in and around the mid eighties was that the away teams half share of the home gate receipts was stopped. The big boys got fed up of the likes of little old Shrewsbury copping for half the gate from the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea and Man City. We were doing ok out of that until they pulled the plug but that income must've helped keep the Ross Maclaren's, Nige Pearson's, McNally's in our employ. Meanwhile, the ECB and Sky are trying to marginalise Clubs like Worcester by pushing T20 City Based Franchises. At least the ECB have stepped in to bail out Durham...
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Post by northwestman on Oct 12, 2016 20:28:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 20:50:45 GMT 1
It is sad that Durham were allowed to go into financial meltdown before action was taken. Durham should never have entered the bidding war to stage test matches but the carrot was just too much and for that the ECB have a lot to answer for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 11:53:05 GMT 1
Why is Sloppy Star hell bent on promoting Bentley for the Town job they can f… *ff as far as I am concerned!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 13:07:06 GMT 1
Why is Sloppy Star hell bent on promoting Bentley for the Town job they can f… *ff as far as I am concerned! Telford connections...I mean this is a paper that called Steve Palmer a "Big Name in Shropshire" ha ha.
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Post by cumbriablue on Oct 14, 2016 16:47:52 GMT 1
My understanding is that the new owners of Morecambe are preparing a new improved contract for Bentley in an attempt to see off any approach from another club that he may find too attractive to turn down. With finance to rebuild the existing squad in the New Year the prospect of working under less financial pressures than previously may prove attractive to him.
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Post by kinder on Oct 14, 2016 16:55:56 GMT 1
We can only hope & pray that the rumour is true.....but a new & improved contract at Morecambe may only be 10 extra sticks of rock a week.....and who in their right mind would want to live there, oh yea sorry it's Bentley we're talking about....no mind let alone a right one....
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 15, 2016 9:26:05 GMT 1
I read early this week that Morecambe were expecting an approach from STFC within 24 hours. Hopefully they are still waiting and will continue to do so for many years to come.
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Post by Stavvy on Oct 15, 2016 9:37:07 GMT 1
Jim Bentley wouldn't be my choice, and I'm not convinced it will be him anyway but I do think it will be an up and coming manager from a lower league that comes rather than someone overly experienced. If it was down to be and we were going to look at leagues below I would look at someone of the ilk of Paul Tisdale. He's done very well considering some of the issues he has had to deal with down there like a big lack of funds. We can't throw money around willy-nilly but with having to cut the cloth accordingly like he has had to down there, having that extra bit of freedom here could make all the difference. To have been manager there 10 years and still be there is a great achievement.
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Post by didntwantosignup on Oct 15, 2016 10:01:00 GMT 1
Jim Bentley wouldn't be my choice, and I'm not convinced it will be him anyway but I do think it will be an up and coming manager from a lower league that comes rather than someone overly experienced. If it was down to be and we were going to look at leagues below I would look at someone of the ilk of Paul Tisdale. He's done very well considering some of the issues he has had to deal with down there like a big lack of funds. We can't throw money around willy-nilly but with having to cut the cloth accordingly like he has had to down there, having that extra bit of freedom here could make all the difference. To have been manager there 10 years and still be there is a great achievement. I don't believe Bentley has applied for the job
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Post by wakemanender on Oct 15, 2016 11:00:04 GMT 1
I think Paul Tisdale is a good shout. Not going too well for him at the moment but it would be interesting to see how he gets on with a bigger budget. He must however be well settled in the south west.
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Post by dooble78 on Oct 15, 2016 11:25:42 GMT 1
Good shout on Paul tisdale at least we would have a smarter touch line. Coz of him wearing his flat cap and waist coat etc :-)
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Post by barrynic on Oct 15, 2016 13:23:49 GMT 1
I cannot believe our Chairman is stupid enough to think that Bentley is a good fit for us....because if he does come and we go down season tickets for the following year will be in 3 figures.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 16:41:35 GMT 1
1,212 at Morecambe's match today.
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Post by wiseone on Oct 15, 2016 17:03:43 GMT 1
I cannot believe our Chairman is stupid enough to think that Bentley is a good fit for us....because if he does come and we go down season tickets for the following year will be in 3 figures. When it comes to good fit I wanted to ask you is it the style of play that you do not agree with? If it not his style of play, is it his coaching, management style or work in the community that is not up to scratch. I know his management results are not top 7 but neither are his resources. I am not saying he is our man but your statement is very very dramatic and it would be good to learn from your in-depth knowledge of what is a good fit for town and what Bentley would need change to match your requirements 😊
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