pazza
Shropshire County League
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Post by pazza on Nov 2, 2024 20:58:59 GMT 1
Bolton sitting in the League one play offs and rotherham have spent a number of years in the championship. We've won two, yes two, games so far this season. Add to the fact, the club is in disarray. Shame on our fan base for being a bit brassed off hey .... Yes , you've made an observation , just like I did Seems your are only welcome on this thread if you are ranting at the club I was there today too , s**t happens , get over it People are absolutely right to complain (or cry as you put it) about how bad we are. What amazes me , Pilch, is just how relaxed and accepting you seem to be about the mess that we are in! |
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Post by gtismygod on Nov 2, 2024 20:59:57 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Gav Cowan back to Salop. Having heard the way he talks about management and coaching on In The Stiffs we could do a lot worse Agreed. Seems spot on in pretty much everything he says when he talks about management. Unlucky not to take Brackley up last season. Also has experience of managing Telford when they didn’t have two pennies to rub together. |
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Post by gtismygod on Nov 2, 2024 21:05:15 GMT 1
That performance today was as bad as it gets IMO. There was absolutely no quality from anybody, but there was also a lack of heart and desire which really is unacceptable.
It didn’t feel as though we were in control of the game at any point today. We were so bad in possession. I was expecting a period of sustained pressure in the second half, but it never came. And neither did any chances.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 21:14:00 GMT 1
Yes , you've made an observation , just like I did Seems your are only welcome on this thread if you are ranting at the club I was there today too , s**t happens , get over it People are absolutely right to complain (or cry as you put it) about how bad we are. What amazes me , Pilch, is just how relaxed and accepting you seem to be about the mess that we are in! I'm more concerned about getting home , currently in a bar near picadilly with all trains to shrews currently cancelled I don't worry about football at all , we've got a bigger game to worry about next week , when people start crying about losing a cup tie away to a side in the division below they really need another less stressful hobby like knitting 🙄 |
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Post by johnno on Nov 2, 2024 21:45:47 GMT 1
People are absolutely right to complain (or cry as you put it) about how bad we are. What amazes me , Pilch, is just how relaxed and accepting you seem to be about the mess that we are in! I'm more concerned about getting home , currently in a bar near picadilly with all trains to shrews currently cancelled I don't worry about football at all , we've got a bigger game to worry about next week , when people start crying about losing a cup tie away to a side in the division below they really need another less stressful hobby like knitting 🙄 Oh that's ok then,"knit one pearl one" |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Nov 2, 2024 21:46:07 GMT 1
People are absolutely right to complain (or cry as you put it) about how bad we are. What amazes me , Pilch, is just how relaxed and accepting you seem to be about the mess that we are in! I'm more concerned about getting home , currently in a bar near picadilly with all trains to shrews currently cancelled I don't worry about football at all , we've got a bigger game to worry about next week , when people start crying about losing a cup tie away to a side in the division below they really need another less stressful hobby like knitting 🙄 I'm curious, you seem to think that fans giving an opinion that you don't agree with is crying and they shouldn't worry too much about the game. What are you expecting people to post on here? "Oh well, we lost, disappointing but it's only a game so let's not think about it too much". Something like that? |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 2, 2024 21:59:00 GMT 1
Awful game.
Set up in a grossly ineffective way.
Outfought and out thought.
O'Reilly first half showed every inch of why he's not been playing.
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Post by shrewswolf on Nov 2, 2024 22:08:10 GMT 1
Gav Cowan back to Salop. Having heard the way he talks about management and coaching on In The Stiffs we could do a lot worse Agreed. Seems spot on in pretty much everything he says when he talks about management. Unlucky not to take Brackley up last season. Also has experience of managing Telford when they didn’t have two pennies to rub together. He’s about as non league as they come. If we appoint someone previously sacked by Telford, having achieved nothing with decent money at Brackley, we are in big trouble. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 2, 2024 22:12:14 GMT 1
Very clever of Mr Hurst. If it goes great he's a genius and if it doesn't then he gave the fans what they wanted so they got what they deserve No team containing Benning, Ojo and Toto is giving me what I wanted. If you are playing with a flat back four. Nurse must start on the mleft and someone of the right side who doesn’t get turned inside out every time a winger attacks him. Whenever Toto starts, you automatically know you will need to score at least two to have a chance. Ojo is like a 24 handicap golfer on the greens, he has no idea of “touch” as every pass is either over hit or under hit. He is not good enough to play for STFC. Vale fans are laughing at us relieving them of some surplus rubbish. None of us are happy with Hurst be we know the only viable alternative would be Mickey Moore so be careful what you wish for. |
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Post by gtismygod on Nov 2, 2024 22:31:34 GMT 1
Very clever of Mr Hurst. If it goes great he's a genius and if it doesn't then he gave the fans what they wanted so they got what they deserve No team containing Benning, Ojo and Toto is giving me what I wanted. If you are playing with a flat back four. Nurse must start on the mleft and someone of the right side who doesn’t get turned inside out every time a winger attacks him. Whenever Toto starts, you automatically know you will need to score at least two to have a chance. Ojo is like a 24 handicap golfer on the greens, he has no idea of “touch” as every pass is either over hit or under hit. He is not good enough to play for STFC. Vale fans are laughing at us relieving them of some surplus rubbish. None of us are happy with Hurst be we know the only viable alternative would be Mickey Moore so be careful what you wish for. Ojo looks like a non-league player, but for some reason he seems to be the first name on the team sheet every week. I’d take Winchester, Rossiter, Perry and Shipley in the middle before him. Doesn’t seem to offer anything other than a simple passing game which includes loads of misplaced passes and poor touches. |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 22:55:43 GMT 1
I'm more concerned about getting home , currently in a bar near picadilly with all trains to shrews currently cancelled I don't worry about football at all , we've got a bigger game to worry about next week , when people start crying about losing a cup tie away to a side in the division below they really need another less stressful hobby like knitting 🙄 I'm curious, you seem to think that fans giving an opinion that you don't agree with is crying and they shouldn't worry too much about the game. What are you expecting people to post on here? "Oh well, we lost, disappointing but it's only a game so let's not think about it too much". Something like that? Each other own , but I find it amusing reading posts from grown men on here just as the mushroom cloud is forming after a defeat , I usually post just to give them a punch bag to use as stress relief Anyway I've just found a train heading to shrews 🚂🚃🚃🚃 |
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Post by armchairfan on Nov 2, 2024 23:13:12 GMT 1
Assuming this to be a response to pughy's earlier contribution - hear hear; certainly whilst I wasn't one who was screaming for the return of Mr Hurst, I was not AGAINST it, but I do reluctantly now accept that it has misfires. I also still maintain that the single common denominator in all of the Clubs travails over the last several years is one Mr Roland Wycherley, at whose feet the blame must lie. You act like we have been massively underachieving in the past 10 years. Lower midtable of league 1 is exactly where we should be if you compare club sizes across the football league. RW appointed Hurst who almost massively overachieved other than that we have done well to maintain league 1 football. I say it again, decent league 1 managers are out of our reach so we have to take punt on up and coming managers. I think it's only MT and Hurst who I have been disappointed with. RW has also been pretty spot on with his sacking of managers, not too hasty but takes action before its too late. Actually, I don't "act" like anything at all - I do, however, FEEL that the current regime, personified by Mr Wycherley, has let each one of us down; we all love and support our Club and have done so for many years, collectively, in my case back to the late 1950s. Football support is essentially a matter of emotional connection, and your implication, that we should somehow be satisfied with things as they are, effectively renders that emotional attachment all but irrelevant and inconsequential; that is not my idea of football fandom, nor is it, I suggest anyone else's idea either. It is arguable whether Mr Wycherley's decisions to dismiss were "spot-on" they were forced upon him by their failures (Mr Askey possibly excepted), and anyway who was it who made all those appointments in the first place? Mr Wycherley's past achievements are not denied, but to Oliver Cromwell "you have been in this place too long - in the name of God, I bid you be gone" or words to that effect. |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2024 1:10:35 GMT 1
damn trains, approaching crewe it was announced only the front 2 coaches would be heading for shrewsbury, so another mad scramble for a seat, oh well another long day in the history of following the town
we were poor first half, we livened up 2nd half but just couldn't put the final ball away, mostly from not connecting with it, again a goal ruled out for a dodgy looking offside, would like to see it again , I can handle losing to lower league opposition in the cup, its what the cup is all about, when its the other way around its fantastic but not to be today, next week however is a must win, hoping they dont have a new manager in place by then ( thats Burton ) ;-)
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2024 1:48:26 GMT 1
Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 Bolton sitting in the League one play offs and rotherham have spent a number of years in the championship. We've won two, yes two, games so far this season. Add to the fact, the club is in disarray. Shame on our fan base for being a bit brassed off hey .... northampton 1 v 2 Kettering ( same division as telford ) the magic of the cup |
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Post by suttonshrew on Nov 3, 2024 2:22:33 GMT 1
What good will sacking Hurst do? Waste more money (which we don’t have) new manger would then be needed…. who would be interested given the budget and also the fact we are a club in the process of being sold. Like everyone I’m annoyed by the results and fed up, but at the same time realistically what good would changing the manager now do? People thinking managers like Pearson,Lowe etc would want to come here are way off the mark.
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pazza
Shropshire County League
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Post by pazza on Nov 3, 2024 3:57:47 GMT 1
What good will sacking Hurst do? Waste more money (which we don’t have) new manger would then be needed…. who would be interested given the budget and also the fact we are a club in the process of being sold. Like everyone I’m annoyed by the results and fed up, but at the same time realistically what good would changing the manager now do? People thinking managers like Pearson,Lowe etc would want to come here are way off the mark. At least it would give us a shot at survival - the status quo isn’t working. Even Hurst knows that much of the responsibility lies at his door. Some manager out there might just relish the fight to survive, proving his worth in the process. I don’t see any fight in Hurst |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Nov 3, 2024 7:35:23 GMT 1
Seen somebody suggest we sack Hurst and put Shipley in charge on Facebook 👍👍
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Post by secretshrew on Nov 3, 2024 8:05:35 GMT 1
I didn’t watch or listen as was at birthday party. My guess is that he’ll get the Burton game and then RW will reluctantly act if we lose.
I just wish Hurst would decide on his best eleven. The good news is that Shipley is almost back for 90 minutes. Need him & Nurse on that left side but as someone else said any defence with Nsiala & Pierre is going to represent a challenging time.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Nov 3, 2024 8:23:49 GMT 1
I didn’t watch or listen as was at birthday party. My guess is that he’ll get the Burton game and then RW will reluctantly act if we lose. I just wish Hurst would decide on his best eleven. The good news is that Shipley is almost back for 90 minutes. Need him & Nurse on that left side but as someone else said any defence with Nsiala & Pierre is going to represent a challenging time. With our options in defence relegation is a certainty unfortunately. Morgan Feeney is the best of our “own” defenders and he’s still a decent league 2 defender but he wouldn’t get in any other starting 11 in league 1, that’s a fact |
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 3, 2024 9:04:45 GMT 1
I didn’t watch or listen as was at birthday party. My guess is that he’ll get the Burton game and then RW will reluctantly act if we lose. I just wish Hurst would decide on his best eleven. The good news is that Shipley is almost back for 90 minutes. Need him & Nurse on that left side but as someone else said any defence with Nsiala & Pierre is going to represent a challenging time. Nurse has been poor since his return (understandably), Benning offers more for me. |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Nov 3, 2024 9:05:24 GMT 1
What good will sacking Hurst do? Waste more money (which we don’t have) new manger would then be needed…. who would be interested given the budget and also the fact we are a club in the process of being sold. Like everyone I’m annoyed by the results and fed up, but at the same time realistically what good would changing the manager now do? People thinking managers like Pearson,Lowe etc would want to come here are way off the mark. If we are close to a takeover happening then I agree it's pointless sacking Hurst. However that's the big question, are we close or just going through the standard "looking for investment", if its the latter then we can't stick with Hurst until a takeover happens because how long will it be? If we were to sack him then clearly we aren't going to be attracting big names in our position but when do we anyway? I've got no doubt that there would still be a lot of interest and there may be someone out there who can get the team fit, organised and actually showing some passion |
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Post by secretshrew on Nov 3, 2024 9:14:54 GMT 1
I didn’t watch or listen as was at birthday party. My guess is that he’ll get the Burton game and then RW will reluctantly act if we lose. I just wish Hurst would decide on his best eleven. The good news is that Shipley is almost back for 90 minutes. Need him & Nurse on that left side but as someone else said any defence with Nsiala & Pierre is going to represent a challenging time. Nurse has been poor since his return (understandably), Benning offers more for me. Yeah it’s a tough one. I think Benning from last season versus a confident fit Nurse with a run of games is a tough decision to make. Nurse needs a run of games, that’s obvious thus my frustration of the chopping and changing from Hurst. His success last time around was based on a solid XI 👍🏻 |
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 3, 2024 9:53:29 GMT 1
damn trains, approaching crewe it was announced only the front 2 coaches would be heading for shrewsbury, so another mad scramble for a seat, oh well another long day in the history of following the town we were poor first half, we livened up 2nd half but just couldn't put the final ball away, mostly from not connecting with it, again a goal ruled out for a dodgy looking offside, would like to see it again , I can handle losing to lower league opposition in the cup, its what the cup is all about, when its the other way around its fantastic but not to be today, next week however is a must win, hoping they dont have a new manager in place by then ( thats Burton ) ;-) Hurst report was more critical of the team, especially the disappointing ineffective 2nd half. Fans are disappointed because the teams got a 16% win ratio since Hurst arrived. With Burton being a ‘must win’ game what should happen if we don’t? |
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 3, 2024 10:30:31 GMT 1
Nurse has been poor since his return (understandably), Benning offers more for me. Yeah it’s a tough one. I think Benning from last season versus a confident fit Nurse with a run of games is a tough decision to make. Nurse needs a run of games, that’s obvious thus my frustration of the chopping and changing from Hurst. His success last time around was based on a solid XI 👍🏻 I agree, we need to stick to a team and formation for the players to gel. We might be a 3rd of the way into the season but we have not had a settled team (especially back 4) all season. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 3, 2024 10:34:27 GMT 1
Few observations from the highlights
Hoole at Fault for both goals, got beat to easily and then lost his man at the corner.
Our goal was quality, great cross by Benning.
Lloyd is one of the worst finishers I have ever seen pull on a town shirt. Love his workrate but every single game he wastes great opportunities.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Nov 3, 2024 10:35:02 GMT 1
If the players aren't bovvered neither am I. I'm going to give Shrewsbury a rest until our present manager is gone. I came to this conclusion yesterday, when I realised for the fust time in my life, I wasn't disappointed when Salop lost.
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Post by callum on Nov 3, 2024 10:51:01 GMT 1
Awful game. Set up in a grossly ineffective way. Outfought and out thought. O'Reilly first half showed every inch of why he's not been playing. I wasn't at the game but I think it's harsh to expect O'Reilly or anyone for that matter to come in from the cold and perform to a great level straight away, they will lack that match sharpness and be rusty. |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2024 11:18:52 GMT 1
What good will sacking Hurst do? Waste more money (which we don’t have) new manger would then be needed…. who would be interested given the budget and also the fact we are a club in the process of being sold. Like everyone I’m annoyed by the results and fed up, but at the same time realistically what good would changing the manager now do? People thinking managers like Pearson,Lowe etc would want to come here are way off the mark. At least it would give us a shot at survival - the status quo isn’t working. Even Hurst knows that much of the responsibility lies at his door. Some manager out there might just relish the fight to survive, proving his worth in the process. I don’t see any fight in Hurst it could more like give us a good shot at massive financial problems ps did you go yesterday ? |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2024 11:25:12 GMT 1
Seen somebody suggest we sack Hurst and put Shipley in charge on Facebook 👍👍 when they wake up, instead of a 27 year old footballer with absolutely zero experience , they might discover that with the current finances and ongoing talks about selling the chairman might have no option other than putting Micky moore in charge if for any reason hurst would leave |
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Post by kenwood on Nov 3, 2024 11:29:44 GMT 1
You act like we have been massively underachieving in the past 10 years. Lower midtable of league 1 is exactly where we should be if you compare club sizes across the football league. RW appointed Hurst who almost massively overachieved other than that we have done well to maintain league 1 football. I say it again, decent league 1 managers are out of our reach so we have to take punt on up and coming managers. I think it's only MT and Hurst who I have been disappointed with. RW has also been pretty spot on with his sacking of managers, not too hasty but takes action before its too late. Mr Wycherley's past achievements are not denied, but to Oliver Cromwell "you have been in this place too long - in the name of God, I bid you be gone" or words to that effect. I thought that was David Davis 😉 |
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