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Post by hectord0g137 on Nov 2, 2024 18:35:46 GMT 1
Has Benning got his Badges?
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Post by armchairfan on Nov 2, 2024 18:54:23 GMT 1
Its not about being a small club, its about making the correct decisions, which looking at Roland's record on appointing managers has been very poor. I would like to see a Eric Ramsey type take over the role (some one who knows the club), but the biggest thing is to get a new owner as Roland may be a successful business man, but he is not a good judge of person in my opinion. The proof of this is letting Hurst come back, which has badly mis fired. Assuming this to be a response to pughy's earlier contribution - hear hear; certainly whilst I wasn't one who was screaming for the return of Mr Hurst, I was not AGAINST it, but I do reluctantly now accept that it has misfires. I also still maintain that the single common denominator in all of the Clubs travails over the last several years is one Mr Roland Wycherley, at whose feet the blame must lie. |
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Nov 2, 2024 19:00:25 GMT 1
I'm burying my head in the sand until there's a slight improvement, see you in 2925
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 2, 2024 19:03:03 GMT 1
Its not about being a small club, its about making the correct decisions, which looking at Roland's record on appointing managers has been very poor. I would like to see a Eric Ramsey type take over the role (some one who knows the club), but the biggest thing is to get a new owner as Roland may be a successful business man, but he is not a good judge of person in my opinion. The proof of this is letting Hurst come back, which has badly mis fired. Assuming this to be a response to pughy's earlier contribution - hear hear; certainly whilst I wasn't one who was screaming for the return of Mr Hurst, I was not AGAINST it, but I do reluctantly now accept that it has misfires. I also still maintain that the single common denominator in all of the Clubs travails over the last several years is one Mr Roland Wycherley, at whose feet the blame must lie. You act like we have been massively underachieving in the past 10 years. Lower midtable of league 1 is exactly where we should be if you compare club sizes across the football league. RW appointed Hurst who almost massively overachieved other than that we have done well to maintain league 1 football. I say it again, decent league 1 managers are out of our reach so we have to take punt on up and coming managers. I think it's only MT and Hurst who I have been disappointed with. RW has also been pretty spot on with his sacking of managers, not too hasty but takes action before its too late. |
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Post by mattmw on Nov 2, 2024 19:04:27 GMT 1
Didn’t listen to todays game but sounds bad and probably nearing the final embers of Hursts second spell in charge
Got to say well done to the Town fans who travelled today in good numbers. To have such a good turnout in our current dire state at least shows there is a strong and loyal fan base which hopefully appeals to any new owner.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Nov 2, 2024 19:07:35 GMT 1
The other common denominator is we have been pretty rubbish. We will need investors we need a hungry young manager and NO darn journeymen happy to take a wage. Look at Bournemouth and Eddie Howe. He was good prior to the influx of foreign cash.
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Post by wakemanender on Nov 2, 2024 19:17:52 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round.
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Post by dachshund on Nov 2, 2024 19:25:18 GMT 1
Let’s not judge the building work Micky Moore has done for another 7-9 years.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Nov 2, 2024 19:37:29 GMT 1
On the coach home and already reached that numb apathetic stage where you start to convince yourself that you no longer care.
In the brief flirtation we had with the final third in the second half, I had to convince myself I really wanted us to equalise but in truth I'm just glad to get home earlier.
The reception from the fans at the end of the game was as toxic as I've known it Some couldn't make their minds up if they wanted Roland out, Hurst out or both but odd that Micky Moore who was public enemy number 1 this time last year goes largely unharmed in the venting anger towards stakes.
Hurst's comments after thr game were a fair reflection I thought but I'm struggling to believe that the problem is simply that the players aren't applying themselves correctly.
I called it the moment we went with the DOF model that it would make it impossible to distinguish true accountability when things inevitably go t*s up. Is it Hurst? Is it the players? Is it the quality of players? I'd hazard a guess at probably all of the above but nothing is likely to improve until one of those factors give.
On the coach home, Carl Winchester was voted 'man of the match' after a poll probably on a par with voting for your favourite war criminal
The general consensus for him winning was "because he looked like he cared" at the end.
Give me strength.
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Post by Luke on Nov 2, 2024 19:41:12 GMT 1
Didn’t expect to get through today. Just another terrible chapter in a disaster of a season.
Earlier this evening, a Town fan wrote in Twitter that he would wager Town could well double dip come the end of the 25/26 season. I, too, wouldn’t exactly bet against it.
Even if that doomsday scenario doesn’t materialise, it’s clear Town are - at the very least - heading down this term.
And if Wycherley does sell up, it means we’ll largely be in the same position as when he took over. Legacy-destroying stuff.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 19:41:47 GMT 1
Let’s not judge the building work Micky Moore has done for another 7-9 years. Lets not judge hurst at all |
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 2, 2024 19:42:50 GMT 1
On the coach home and already reached that numb apathetic stage where you start to convince yourself that you no longer care. In the brief flirtation we had with the final third in the second half, I had to convince myself I really wanted us to equalise but in truth I'm just glad to get home earlier. The reception from the fans at the end of the game was as toxic as I've known it Some couldn't make their minds up if they wanted Roland out, Hurst out or both but odd that Micky Moore who was public enemy number 1 this time last year goes largely unharmed in the venting anger towards stakes. Hurst's comments after thr game were a fair reflection I thought but I'm struggling to believe that the problem is simply that the players aren't applying themselves correctly. I called it the moment we went with the DOF model that it would make it impossible to distinguish true accountability when things inevitably go t*s up. Is it Hurst? Is it the players? Is it the quality of players? I'd hazard a guess at probably all of the above but nothing is likely to improve until one of those factors give. On the coach home, Carl Winchester was voted 'man of the match' after a poll probably on a par with voting for your favourite war criminal The general consensus for him winning was "because he looked like he cared" at the end. Give me strength. How did TOR play today? |
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Post by gobowenshrew on Nov 2, 2024 19:45:41 GMT 1
On the coach home and already reached that numb apathetic stage where you start to convince yourself that you no longer care. In the brief flirtation we had with the final third in the second half, I had to convince myself I really wanted us to equalise but in truth I'm just glad to get home earlier. The reception from the fans at the end of the game was as toxic as I've known it Some couldn't make their minds up if they wanted Roland out, Hurst out or both but odd that Micky Moore who was public enemy number 1 this time last year goes largely unharmed in the venting anger towards stakes. Hurst's comments after thr game were a fair reflection I thought but I'm struggling to believe that the problem is simply that the players aren't applying themselves correctly. I called it the moment we went with the DOF model that it would make it impossible to distinguish true accountability when things inevitably go t*s up. Is it Hurst? Is it the players? Is it the quality of players? I'd hazard a guess at probably all of the above but nothing is likely to improve until one of those factors give. On the coach home, Carl Winchester was voted 'man of the match' after a poll probably on a par with voting for your favourite war criminal The general consensus for him winning was "because he looked like he cared" at the end. Give me strength. How did TOR play today? Largely absent I'd say. Neither the worst player on the pitch but also not the answer to all our woes as some might have you believe. Sagoe Jr being replaced by Gillead at HT was a real white flag moment. Didn't think CSJ played that bad |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 19:49:18 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 |
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Post by servernaside on Nov 2, 2024 20:05:45 GMT 1
I won’t be going to any more matches until we win a home game.
Might be a long wait.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 2, 2024 20:16:08 GMT 1
Hurst trains them, puts out a team he thinks can win. The biggest problem is no one's bossing the team on the pitch
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Post by johnno on Nov 2, 2024 20:16:19 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 nt and yet none of these sides are having quite the season Salop are, we cry a lot at present, you continue to see the sun even if it doesnt shine if you want |
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Post by wakemanender on Nov 2, 2024 20:16:50 GMT 1
TNS back at the Meadow soon.
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Post by mattmw on Nov 2, 2024 20:23:21 GMT 1
Wonder if there will be any coms from the club in the coming week about the current situation. Vote of confidence for Hurst and a rallying call to fans ahead of the vital Burton game
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Post by socrates1974 on Nov 2, 2024 20:25:45 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....yawn. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 2, 2024 20:27:20 GMT 1
Wonder if there will be any coms from the club in the coming week about the current situation. Vote of confidence for Hurst and a rallying call to fans ahead of the vital Burton game HAHA!! |
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Post by SamHarvey on Nov 2, 2024 20:28:51 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 Bolton sitting in the League one play offs and rotherham have spent a number of years in the championship. We've won two, yes two, games so far this season. Add to the fact, the club is in disarray. Shame on our fan base for being a bit brassed off hey .... |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Nov 2, 2024 20:30:40 GMT 1
Hurst needs to be sacked, not entirely sure he’s the main issue but we need fresh ideas if there’s any slim chances of avoiding the drop.
As many have suggested, if we go down we’ll be a bottom half league 2 club fighting for survival going forward. We wouldn’t be going down as a big fish in a small pond anymore! Our budget would probably be mid table
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Post by pazza on Nov 2, 2024 20:39:08 GMT 1
Not the best time to change the manager with the prospect of a change of ownership on the horizon. How do you know there is a change of ownership on the horizon? There has been nothing in the press that I have seen to suggest there is a take over soon. Roland is totally disrespectful to the loyal fans who have watched this rubbish for years. Paul Simpson Sam Ricketts John Askey Micky Moore Paul Hurst (2nd time around) The list goes on, all poor managers which Roland signed, paid money to Grimsby in compensation for Hurst first time around and agrees to players having their contracts paid up. My brother worked for him years ago at s**t=re vending and said he was an arrogant person, leopards do not change their spots. Rant over A view shared by a good few Directors and Executives at other clubs who meet Roland |
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Post by pazza on Nov 2, 2024 20:43:34 GMT 1
Looking at a couple of the days positives. Steve Cotterill and Forest Green also lost. Gavin Cowan's Brackley through to second round. Gav Cowan back to Salop. Having heard the way he talks about management and coaching on In The Stiffs we could do a lot worse |
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Post by lancsman on Nov 2, 2024 20:44:52 GMT 1
Hurst needs to be sacked, not entirely sure he’s the main issue but we need fresh ideas if there’s any slim chances of avoiding the drop. As many have suggested, if we go down we’ll be a bottom half league 2 club fighting for survival going forward. We wouldn’t be going down as a big fish in a small pond anymore! Our budget would probably be mid table I agree to an extent to what you are saying. The current players are sitting in the dressing room saying wtf is this manager doing. I defy anyone to suggest that another manager cannot do better that this one. Hurst does not know how to get the best out of these players. If you say to me who then would you get. Someone who knows the club, what it stands for, and the heritage salop is and why we need someone who, as a manager will die for this club……..end of. |
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 2, 2024 20:45:52 GMT 1
Not the best time to change the manager with the prospect of a change of ownership on the horizon. We can't carry on as we are, can we? Youd have thought some sort of minimum standard was set when he was employed. I can’t believe he’s got anywhere near meeting it? Currently ticking along with a 16.2% win ration 🤔 |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 20:49:50 GMT 1
Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....yawn. Zzzzzzzz yawn |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2024 20:52:20 GMT 1
Rotherham lost at home to Cheltenham , I think Rotherham need to sell up now 😝 Bolton lost to Walsall , Bolton fans need to start a revolution on the back of it The magic of the cup eh Celebrate when you win Cry when you lose We are the Shrewsbury , we cry when we lose 😭😢🥹🥲 Bolton sitting in the League one play offs and rotherham have spent a number of years in the championship. We've won two, yes two, games so far this season. Add to the fact, the club is in disarray. Shame on our fan base for being a bit brassed off hey .... Yes , you've made an observation , just like I did Seems your are only welcome on this thread if you are ranting at the club I was there today too , s**t happens , get over it |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Nov 2, 2024 20:57:31 GMT 1
What did you think of today Pilch? Surely you are as frustrated as everyone else with the situation
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