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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 10:56:36 GMT 1
I'd like to think both Leo and TOR will still be here after January. I looked at an article relating to Castledine and there is a trigger in January.
I assume or rather hope that's if either club or player isn't happy. I think the Modus Operandi is that these youngsters are playing football, even if it's badly.
In the case of the Castledine article it stated that he was expected to go out to a championship level club or a strong league one club.
Credit to whoever got him here I suspect it was Moore.
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 13, 2024 11:20:51 GMT 1
I'd like to think both Leo and TOR will still be here after January. I looked at an article relating to Castledine and there is a trigger in January. I assume or rather hope that's if either club or player isn't happy. I think the Modus Operandi is that these youngsters are playing football, even if it's badly. In the case of the Castledine article it stated that he was expected to go out to a championship level club or a strong league one club. Credit to whoever got him here I suspect it was Moore. Sorry but I just don’t see it with Castledine Maybe we are dragging him down to our painfully poor level? But he’s not a championship player yet anyway |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 13, 2024 11:21:55 GMT 1
Our defence is in needed of urgent medical attention - could someone please fetch the “Nurse”? Worst defence in a decade plus, make no mistake about that Hopefully stating facts doesn’t mean I enjoy us losing… |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 11:38:14 GMT 1
Pierre and Nsiala have done better in a 3 at the back. Nsiala seemed to play well yesterday and didn't cause the errors for the goals. But others there will have seen things better.
Castledine has to get used to playing mens football. It's not the same as youth level but personally i think he's doing well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 11:41:13 GMT 1
To add, saw the opening marquis goal again from a couple of different angles. It's a very well worked goal by about half the side. Rossiter, Castledine, Gilliead, M Feeney and the finish looks like it caught a deflection.
The run by Lloyd to pull off the back 2 is great to give space to shoot.
Any team would be proud of that one.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 13, 2024 11:56:25 GMT 1
I believe our squad know they are capable of easily avoiding relegation this season, but are lacking confidence and need a kick up the backside to get them going
and that kick up the arse happened yesterday the second crawly went 2-1 up
our players suddenly rolled their sleeves up and got down to some serious work and it was a joy to watch, Thursday cannot come quick enough for me now as I think the moral from yesterday will still be fresh on and off the pitch
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 13, 2024 11:59:57 GMT 1
A lot of the defensive goals were conceding are coming from the left back position....benning to be blunt... Peterborough,wxm,Crawley,and a few others I can't remember... Not marking up tight enough at the far post,when the ball comes across,or not reading the game properly,or not marking the opposing forward/winger close enough....but to be fair to him,going forward he isn't to bad,and puts some good crosses in,and corners....do you stick with him,or try nurse there.....see p Hurst🤷🤷
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Post by Pilch on Oct 13, 2024 12:18:25 GMT 1
A lot of the defensive goals were conceding are coming from the left back position....benning to be blunt... Peterborough,wxm,Crawley,and a few others I can't remember... Not marking up tight enough at the far post,when the ball comes across,or not reading the game properly,or not marking the opposing forward/winger close enough....but to be fair to him,going forward he isn't to bad,and puts some good crosses in,and corners....do you stick with him,or try nurse there.....see p Hurst🤷🤷 I'd say most goals have come from the other side , certainly stevenage, one or 2 of p'boros, huddersfield, and 2 of Wrexhams , Mansfields were both from left/centre, stockport both were scrappy half cleared balls banged in a crowded box, rotherham scored a penalty from a benning high kick but that wasnt really a positional fault |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 13, 2024 12:34:49 GMT 1
The crosses were coming in from the opposite side to benning,yes I agree pilch,but benning wasn't marking up,or tight enough to his marker....same happened with there 2nd goal yesterday....cross comes in to far post..the lad taps it in...benning nowhere near him....that's what I saw anyway 🤷
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Post by Pilch on Oct 13, 2024 12:43:57 GMT 1
The crosses were coming in from the opposite side to benning,yes I agree pilch,but benning wasn't marking up,or tight enough to his marker....same happened with there 2nd goal yesterday....cross comes in to far post..the lad taps it in...benning nowhere near him....that's what I saw anyway 🤷 its hard to pinpoint who to fault for that, the guy gets a free cross in from the left, you could argue benning left his man but he was also the only town defender who put in a challenge thus preventing an unmarked guy having a free header, many at fault there |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 12:57:24 GMT 1
Benning is very lucky to be ahead of Nurse and I suspect its more because of Nurses lack of match fitness.
Though others have upped their game and I believe that Benning can.
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Oct 13, 2024 13:17:33 GMT 1
I believe our squad know they are capable of easily avoiding relegation this season, but are lacking confidence and need a kick up the backside to get them going and that kick up the arse happened yesterday the second crawly went 2-1 up our players suddenly rolled their sleeves up and got down to some serious work and it was a joy to watch, Thursday cannot come quick enough for me now as I think the moral from yesterday will still be fresh on and off the pitch Spelling police here....you need an E on the end of moral !!! |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 13, 2024 13:21:43 GMT 1
Our defence is in needed of urgent medical attention - could someone please fetch the “Nurse”? Worst defence in a decade plus, make no mistake about that Hopefully stating facts doesn’t mean I enjoy us losing… Disagree has to be the 2002/03 defence which took us down to the Conference, did we concede 90 odd league goals that season? |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 13, 2024 13:31:30 GMT 1
I believe our squad know they are capable of easily avoiding relegation this season, but are lacking confidence and need a kick up the backside to get them going and that kick up the arse happened yesterday the second crawly went 2-1 up our players suddenly rolled their sleeves up and got down to some serious work and it was a joy to watch, Thursday cannot come quick enough for me now as I think the moral from yesterday will still be fresh on and off the pitch Spelling police here....you need an E on the end of moral !!! on the end or at the end ?..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 13, 2024 13:36:11 GMT 1
Worst defence in a decade plus, make no mistake about that Hopefully stating facts doesn’t mean I enjoy us losing… Disagree has to be the 1992-93 defence which took us down to the Conference, did we concede 90 odd league goals that season? Think you mean 02/03....... |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 13, 2024 13:38:55 GMT 1
I'd like to think both Leo and TOR will still be here after January. I looked at an article relating to Castledine and there is a trigger in January. I assume or rather hope that's if either club or player isn't happy. I think the Modus Operandi is that these youngsters are playing football, even if it's badly. In the case of the Castledine article it stated that he was expected to go out to a championship level club or a strong league one club. Credit to whoever got him here I suspect it was Moore. Re the January trigger - Think that's pretty much a standard year long youth loan tbh. Think they all have an option in the transfer window to be recalled by the parent club, or returned from the loaning club. |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 13, 2024 13:45:10 GMT 1
Disagree has to be the 1992-93 defence which took us down to the Conference, did we concede 90 odd league goals that season? Think you mean 02/03....... sorry yes 2002/3 now edited |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 13, 2024 13:48:37 GMT 1
Think you mean 02/03....... sorry yes 2002/3 our favourite defender was recruited from the shrewsbury Sunday league  |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 13, 2024 13:55:07 GMT 1
our favourite defender was recruited from the shrewsbury Sunday league And he was better than the others around him. At least he was training I suppose which some of the others who live away weren't by all accounts. |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 13, 2024 14:06:48 GMT 1
I'd like to think both Leo and TOR will still be here after January. I looked at an article relating to Castledine and there is a trigger in January. I assume or rather hope that's if either club or player isn't happy. I think the Modus Operandi is that these youngsters are playing football, even if it's badly. In the case of the Castledine article it stated that he was expected to go out to a championship level club or a strong league one club. Credit to whoever got him here I suspect it was Moore. Re the January trigger - Think that's pretty much a standard year long youth loan tbh. Think they all have an option in the transfer window to be recalled by the parent club, or returned from the loaning club. If a loan players is not getting regular first team games, you would think the parent club would trigger the clause. They won't to see there players getting experience not sitting on the bench. |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 13, 2024 14:25:24 GMT 1
I thought that the sulking comment may have been thrown at Marquis who did look like he was sulking when on the bench recently. I could be wrong though. Or has he just got an unfortunate look, a bit like Artell, never looks happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 14:49:01 GMT 1
Worst defence in a decade plus, make no mistake about that Hopefully stating facts doesn’t mean I enjoy us losing… Disagree has to be the 2002/03 defence which took us down to the Conference, did we concede 90 odd league goals that season? Co needed 92 goals in 46 games, exactly an average of 2 per game while being managers by a former renowned central defender and captain of Wales😠😠 |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 13, 2024 15:35:46 GMT 1
Well whatever.....most posters on here see the same things about our defence...not closing down,poor marking,poor tackling,not getting out quick enough etc.....needs addressing by the defensive coaches/ manager pretty quickly, because the same mistakes have been going on to long now.....or aren't the players listening,or maybe not good enough🤷
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 13, 2024 15:50:58 GMT 1
Well whatever.....most posters on here see the same things about our defence...not closing down,poor marking,poor tackling,not getting out quick enough etc.....needs addressing by the defensive coaches/ manager pretty quickly, because the same mistakes have been going on to long now.....or aren't the players listening,or maybe not good enough🤷 You have sumed up what we have seen in every game, they are paid professionals who keep making school boy errors. So unless something changes if we are to win games.we need to score first and score more goals than we conceded. as we will keep concededing them Just as we did today. No idea what they are doing defensively on the training ground but it is not working. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 13, 2024 16:40:11 GMT 1
Spelling police here....you need an E on the end of moral !!! on the end or at the end ?..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatever, you need an e up the end, or in the end, sideways....
But, your incorrect spelling still got the message over, which is all it needs to do, it just grates on those that can spell.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Oct 13, 2024 16:46:39 GMT 1
Worst defence in a decade plus, make no mistake about that Hopefully stating facts doesn’t mean I enjoy us losing… Disagree has to be the 2002/03 defence which took us down to the Conference, did we concede 90 odd league goals that season? I’ve checked using three different calculators, and I can confirm 2002/03 was definitely more than a decade ago. Case closed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2024 16:59:33 GMT 1
Well whatever.....most posters on here see the same things about our defence...not closing down,poor marking,poor tackling,not getting out quick enough etc.....needs addressing by the defensive coaches/ manager pretty quickly, because the same mistakes have been going on to long now.....or aren't the players listening,or maybe not good enough🤷 You have sumed up what we have seen in every game, they are paid professionals who keep making school boy errors. So unless something changes if we are to win games.we need to score first and score more goals than we conceded. as we will keep concededing them Just as we did today. No idea what they are doing defensively on the training ground but it is not working. When you look at how many games they've already got under their collective belts you've got to wonder why they are conceding these sloppy goals. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 13, 2024 17:35:00 GMT 1
Absolutely no idea....not listening,not good enough,no communication 🤷🤷
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 13, 2024 17:43:41 GMT 1
Reading between the lines of Hurst post match interview suggests to me TOR is firmly on the naughty step and doesn't look like moving any time soon. There was also a hint that Marquis was one of the players having a sulk. I think TOR will get his chance once Hurst has made his point about who’s in charge. It will be up to the player to earn his place. He won’t do himself any favours in long run as it will get back to Villa if he has a poor attitude. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 13, 2024 17:50:16 GMT 1
A lot of the defensive goals were conceding are coming from the left back position....benning to be blunt... Peterborough,wxm,Crawley,and a few others I can't remember... Not marking up tight enough at the far post,when the ball comes across,or not reading the game properly,or not marking the opposing forward/winger close enough....but to be fair to him,going forward he isn't to bad,and puts some good crosses in,and corners....do you stick with him,or try nurse there.....see p Hurst🤷🤷 We played 5 at the back, Fenney should also have been covering. It seemed to me that Benning was playing as a RB as he was very narrow leaving space out wide as we were not playing wingers. Benning was involved in most of our attacking play yesterday. He makes mistakes with his positioning but he bring a lot to the team. Worth noting it was Benning's intelligent play after the corner to shift the ball before crossing which lead to our 2nd goal, it was his great cross that resulted in Marquis winning the penalty and it was his corner that was knocked down for Lloyd to put away our 4th. Still very early days for Nurse after so long out but I was disappointed with him during the Bolton game both defensively and offensively. |
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