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Post by hectord0g137 on Sept 21, 2024 19:06:10 GMT 1
Northwestern No we wouldn't. From first had experience this season we are streets ahead of all but Barrow.ive been to 4 games
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Post by mattmw on Sept 21, 2024 19:30:11 GMT 1
Not quite sure which is more dispiriting the poor overall performance and result at Wrexham or todays better overall performance but still a disappointing defeat
Opening 30 minutes was probably our best overall attacking display of the season, but the second half fade away is becoming a bit of a concern. We have to find a way to play well over 90 plus minutes not just short bursts.
Defence remains as before a major issue and hope news on Josh Feeney is positive as clearly the back up options just aren’t league one level
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Post by vladimir on Sept 21, 2024 20:02:18 GMT 1
I have little doubt that there will be calls for Mr Hurst's dismissal, and I honestly do understand the reasons, but - and yes, I always include a "but" because I realise that I am only offering an opinion - I cannot support such views; for reasons that are probably irrational and possibly fuelled by nostalgia, I do not believe that Paul Hurst should be offered up as a scapegoat - a sacrificial lamb - for the mistakes of others. Pointless to get rid of Hurst. It's his team, wpuld someone else be able to get better out of his team?? Most give 110% every week. It's just a lack of quality due to budget. I've been firmly in the Hurst camp, but even the mind does wonder with what an Ainsworth (don't shoot me) or a Sadler ( yep no chance of getting him) could do with the unit. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 21, 2024 20:12:43 GMT 1
I do wonder whether some people watch the same game sometimes. I have seen more than enough this season to be confident we are more than capable of staying up. Castledine puts away his great chance first half and we win comfortably. One of the many chances go in last week and we win comfortably. Its such small margins and I am yet to see a game we have not been competitive in (I don't even think Wrexham was that bad before the collapse).
Also the talk of sacking Hurst is a waste of time. Disregarding the fact we would not get anyone in that's anywhere near capable of keeping us up this season, it's a work in progress and the players are fighting for Hurst. Also wasting money getting rid of Hurst makes no sense.
Hurst is going nowhere, Moore is going nowhere and we are stuck with this squad until January.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2024 20:57:11 GMT 1
Seems a lot resting on the young shoulders of Castledine, I listened to the Radio Shropshire and found a live feed. He seems streets ahead of everyone else on the pitch but its still a lot to ask.
Nsiala was getting dragged out of position time after time and exposing Feeney and Hoole, It seems strange to play 3 defensive midfielders and Shipley and Marquis don't even come on and possibly that Young is now injured.
I haven't thrown in the towel just yet but its very worrying.
Also don't worry what Wrexham are doing, nor Forest Green.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Sept 21, 2024 21:10:52 GMT 1
What's definitely changed with Hurst is his own confidence. Gone are the days when really bold confident substitutions were made.
The two tanks at the back are going to make it a long long season. The fact is Hurst wanted them and they ain't good enough..
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Post by lancsman on Sept 21, 2024 21:13:40 GMT 1
I read what is said here snd oh is it awful.
You can work miracles to get to the opposing box but…..you have to finish and we can’t.
So there have to be big changes from the top down before you can think about staying up.
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Post by dachshund on Sept 21, 2024 21:13:48 GMT 1
Micky Moore is stealing a living
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Post by lancsman on Sept 21, 2024 21:28:06 GMT 1
Listening to Hurst after the game he sounds bemused at the way we played. He is clearly struggling to know what to do next……..,and to be honest that says it all.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 21, 2024 21:32:38 GMT 1
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Sept 21, 2024 21:38:27 GMT 1
Micky Moore is stealing a living There’s only so much MM can do on a league 2 budget, league 1 has gone up a notch again over the summer and we simply cannot compete any longer at this level. Certain player recruitment like Nsiala was a Hurst decision and clearly a huge mistake. We need investment as we all know and it isn’t coming anytime soon. The lack of investment and show string budget will be the reason we are relegated. |
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Post by dachshund on Sept 21, 2024 21:41:29 GMT 1
Micky Moore is stealing a living say something different for a change zzz Would be awful if someone said the same thing all the time on this message board |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 21, 2024 22:09:31 GMT 1
say something different for a change zzz Would be awful if someone said the same thing all the time on this message board Its the match thread , talk about the match and not your personal vendettas maybe we could debate if the manager picked his best side for example |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2024 22:24:11 GMT 1
It’s all well and good saying things like we played well in patches and if we keep playing well the points will come, but the cold hard facts are that we’ve won one and lost five. So despite showing encouragement in patches, we’re still finding different ways of losing games, it’s a recipe for disaster.
Particularly gutted about this one as I genuinely thought we’d get something out of it, and we put ourselves in a great position to do so.
Moore and Hurst have blood on their hands for giving us this defence. I honestly think we’re going down.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 21, 2024 22:38:08 GMT 1
Who was it signed nsiala for the 4th time ?
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Post by markglasgow on Sept 21, 2024 23:14:49 GMT 1
This nonsense needs to ends and end now. Shame on any of you who supported this PH BS.
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 21, 2024 23:45:04 GMT 1
I thought we played well overall. It was good stuff to watch, we were dominant for 30 minutes, Mansfield grew into it and became the superior team second half but were never in control as we were at the start of the game. Either team could have won it, me with my biased specs feels it should’ve been us, and at the end of the day we have come home without any points because we have an individual (arguably two if being harsh on Pierre) in Toto who Mansfield simply don’t have in their ranks. He cost his team mates points, probably all three. I don’t think if you tuned in as a neutral you’d say we looked a bad side today. That we managed to lose despite playing really well for a good chunk of the game, and then didn’t have enough about us to hold onto the lead just as the opponents came into it, probably confirms we are the bad side we all know we are. Personally I think Hurst is getting a good go out of a terrible budget and low quality side and we just haven’t managed a s**thouse win yet. We’ll go down. The league is too much for us and would be even if we sat back and tried boring us to death like Taylor, Ricketts and Cotterill. At least we are having our own go at it. Honestly, we could’ve easily come away with 6 points this last week, sometimes we won under those guys and it was barely worth watching. Keep going at it Salop  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 0:11:41 GMT 1
I feel for Morgan Feeney originally starting ahead behind both Nsiala and Pierre, Feeney one of the more mature and better players in the squad.
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Post by AlisonS on Sept 22, 2024 0:28:58 GMT 1
I thought we played well overall. It was good stuff to watch, we were dominant for 30 minutes, Mansfield grew into it and became the superior team second half but were never in control as we were at the start of the game. Either team could have won it, me with my biased specs feels it should’ve been us, and at the end of the day we have come home without any points because we have an individual (arguably two if being harsh on Pierre) in Toto who Mansfield simply don’t have in their ranks. He cost his team mates points, probably all three. I don’t think if you tuned in as a neutral you’d say we looked a bad side today. That we managed to lose despite playing really well for a good chunk of the game, and then didn’t have enough about us to hold onto the lead just as the opponents came into it, probably confirms we are the bad side we all know we are. Personally I think Hurst is getting a good go out of a terrible budget and low quality side and we just haven’t managed a s**thouse win yet. We’ll go down. The league is too much for us and would be even if we sat back and tried boring us to death like Taylor, Ricketts and Cotterill. At least we are having our own go at it. Honestly, we could’ve easily come away with 6 points this last week, sometimes we won under those guys and it was barely worth watching. Keep going at it Salop I like this team! For so much of this afternoon it was a really good watch. All teams make mistakes - but all ours are being punished right now, disheartening for everyone. Losing 6/7 isn’t great, but it doesn’t really reflect the performances I’ve seen - and more challenging games to come but relegation in September is a bit previous. Agree - keep going 🙂 but relegation in September is a bit previous |
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 22, 2024 7:28:49 GMT 1
One thing worth noting is despite the result and the table it was another entertaining game. We are fun to watch this season and nearly every game this season has been the same.
We all cried out to just have a go over the last few years and now we are doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 7:37:47 GMT 1
One thing worth noting is despite the result and the table it was another entertaining game. We are fun to watch this season and nearly every game this season has been the same. We all cried out to just have a go over the last few years and now we are doing it. We’re the lowest scoring team in the league (as usual) and are up there with the worst defensive records too. Yesterday we see the likes of Northampton winning at Huddersfield, Wrexham struggling to beat Crawley and Leyton Orient thrashing Stockport and yet we’re conditioned to accept that we should get nothing against these sort of teams. If we were improving and not making the same errors week in week out I might feel a bit more positive. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 7:57:31 GMT 1
I was chatting last night with a mate and we both said the same, we are amazed at how relaxed a large percentage of our fans are. We've lost 6 out of 7 this season but you hear "we are playing well, results will come".
There's a reason we play well in patches and still lose, we have a lack of quality throughout the team so when it comes to the crucial moments, we aren't good enough to either score or stop the opposition from scoring
Several people have said there's no point getting rid of Hurst as nothing will change until Roland goes, I agree to an extent but we were pushing for Taylor to go for improvement and I see no reason why Hurst shouldn't come under the same scrutiny. There is always another option, it doesn't guarantee improvement but it does mean something different and doesn't involve signing ex Grimsby players.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Sept 22, 2024 8:57:57 GMT 1
Listening to Hurst after the game he sounds bemused at the way we played. He is clearly struggling to know what to do next……..,and to be honest that says it all. Disagree 100%. Hurst knows exactly what is required, the squad lacks self belief especially after conceding a goal even after dictating the game. PH and CD are the best hop we have of staying up this season. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 22, 2024 9:44:52 GMT 1
I feel for Morgan Feeney originally starting ahead behind both Nsiala and Pierre, Feeney one of the more mature and better players in the squad. Morgan Feeney originally started the season with an injury, that's why we started with Pierre and Nsiala. There was no one else to pick. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 9:48:02 GMT 1
This nonsense needs to ends and end now. Shame on any of you who supported this PH BS. But what are the alternatives? We are skint, no new investment is forthcoming, no new ownership is on the horizon. We are basically stuck with what we've got, like it or not. It's rum I know but we are what we are at the moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 9:59:57 GMT 1
Given the start we’ve had always looked challenging on paper, I think had we won yesterday 6 points would’ve been a reasonable start from the fixtures. But to get it turned around and come away with nothing stings, we’re now firmly lodged in the relegation zone, have played a game more than most teams, have the worst goal difference in the league, it’s grim and bleak.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 22, 2024 11:02:03 GMT 1
I was chatting last night with a mate and we both said the same, we are amazed at how relaxed a large percentage of our fans are. We've lost 6 out of 7 this season but you hear "we are playing well, results will come". There's a reason we play well in patches and still lose, we have a lack of quality throughout the team so when it comes to the crucial moments, we aren't good enough to either score or stop the opposition from scoring Several people have said there's no point getting rid of Hurst as nothing will change until Roland goes, I agree to an extent but we were pushing for Taylor to go for improvement and I see no reason why Hurst shouldn't come under the same scrutiny. There is always another option, it doesn't guarantee improvement but it does mean something different and doesn't involve signing ex Grimsby players. maybe they are some of those who have been screaming for Hurst to come back since 2018 fans dont like admitting they were wrong, probably why there isn't a 1 win in 16 thread doing the rounds , because we all know the 1 win in 9 was a vicious thread on here a few years back ending when the manager got the sack, in all comps that seasons 18 games had started 5 wins, 6 draws, 7 defeats, how we would kills for form like that today  compare that to our last 18 games 1 win, 5 draws, 12 defeats |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 11:07:20 GMT 1
I was chatting last night with a mate and we both said the same, we are amazed at how relaxed a large percentage of our fans are. We've lost 6 out of 7 this season but you hear "we are playing well, results will come". There's a reason we play well in patches and still lose, we have a lack of quality throughout the team so when it comes to the crucial moments, we aren't good enough to either score or stop the opposition from scoring Several people have said there's no point getting rid of Hurst as nothing will change until Roland goes, I agree to an extent but we were pushing for Taylor to go for improvement and I see no reason why Hurst shouldn't come under the same scrutiny. There is always another option, it doesn't guarantee improvement but it does mean something different and doesn't involve signing ex Grimsby players. maybe they are some of those who have been screaming for Hurst to come back since 2018 fans dont like admitting they were wrong, probably why there isn't a 1 win in 16 thread doing the rounds , because we all know the 1 win in 9 was a vicious thread on here a few years back ending when the manager got the sack, in all comps that seasons 18 games had started 5 wins, 6 draws, 7 defeats, how we would kills for form like that today compare that to our last 18 games 1 win, 5 draws, 12 defeats The person who wanted him back was the chairman. Perhaps it's time for him to admit he was wrong |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 11:15:04 GMT 1
I did say when Hurst was rumoured with the return that the good news was that regardless of if he’s a success or not it will be good to finally quieten down that small part of our fanbase who’ve called for the messiahs return every time we lost a game under Ricketts, Cotterill or Taylor.
His job should be under pressure, but really and truthfully, what’s the point? I don’t trust Roland and Moore to pick a good one, and it’s not the most attractive job to entice in talent when it’s made public knowledge we have no money and are on a slow road to nowhere.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 22, 2024 11:16:32 GMT 1
maybe they are some of those who have been screaming for Hurst to come back since 2018 fans dont like admitting they were wrong, probably why there isn't a 1 win in 16 thread doing the rounds , because we all know the 1 win in 9 was a vicious thread on here a few years back ending when the manager got the sack, in all comps that seasons 18 games had started 5 wins, 6 draws, 7 defeats, how we would kills for form like that today compare that to our last 18 games 1 win, 5 draws, 12 defeats The person who wanted him back was the chairman. Perhaps it's time for him to admit he was wrong chairman gives majority of fans what they are been screaming out for shock bit like he did in bringing back graham turner like I keep says, just get on with it, see where we are at the end of the season and are it from there, throwing good money after back has been our demise for the past 6 years, its time to see how the story ends for once |
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