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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 3:39:05 GMT 1
Hmm...I don't understand the doom and gloom...last 2 or 3 seasons we were asking for entertaining football. There's losing bad and there's losing good. We lost good today. The scoreline totally flattered them. We were equal for 80% of that game. We are attacking ladies and gentlemen. Can you remember what that feels like? I barely can. We are threatening, and getting bodies forward. Long balls are actually being held up and chased for. Crosses are coming in. The players believe. We should too. exactly we just want entertainment they said so far this season we've had one of the all time classics at the new ground , and yesterday right up until they killed us off with that 3rd goal we were quite entertaining some fans are just bad losers , only happy when we are winning , it's so embarrassing , if they don't like the manager it's his fault , if they like the manager they blame someone else and cry about it and the minute that 3rd goal went it the tears started flowing and the blame game started Pure cringe |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 3:47:11 GMT 1
Wow….. This must be a record number of dummies being spat out of prams. Can I remind everyone that this was our first home game of the season. Possibly against a team that will have designs on promotion. Calm down everyone… Only most people's 'meltdowns' are actually quite well considered concerns about the club's ownership and future - and nothing to do with the events on the pitch. These concerns haven't just suddenly reared their head because Toto Nsiala can't cope with League One forwards, I can assure you. Maybe they should look closer to the guy who signed toto , not for the first time , it was for the 4th time , that guy was the manager |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 4:27:09 GMT 1
Who do we then bring in? And to do what? How many managers have we had since we returned to League One? Lets leave aside the play-off season under Hurst because clearly that was a flash in the pan as we haven't come anywhere near again since. So we had Mellon, Askey, Ricketts, Cotterill, Taylor (and now back to Hurst). Of all those listed only one of them led us to a top half finish (just) and that was because, apparently, he overspent (as in, we couldn't afford a 12th place finish). All the others led us to 20th, 18th, 18th, 17th and 18th (leaving aside the season cut short by Covid) and more than once we have needed to replace the manager as there was a danger we were heading for relegation. So when I look to that, I'm now at the stage where I do not think changing manager will make any difference. Because it hasn't. I wouldn't say I'm a Hurst acolyte nor will I look to play the MM card, there is only one mainstay throughout all this and as far as I can see unless there is a change in ownership or we get additional investment then moving from one manager to the other seems akin to nothing more than rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Early days yet of course. But three games in and no wins. It was poor against Stevenage. We managed a draw at home to a side in the division below having conceded three to them. Posh tore us a new one today. Not the best start. Hopefully Hurst can improve on things. But if he doesn't (lets hope he can!!) I do hope that the focus will be switched, if even somewhat, from the manager this time around.👍
Good post.
RW has been in charge for 28 years and in that time has got through 18 managers, starting with Fred Davies through to Matt Taylor and is now trying his luck with Hurst for a 2nd time. Of those 18 previous managers none have gone onto to noticeably bigger or better things, showing me that the chairman is clearly not a competent recruiter. The only thing close to a major success was Hurst first time around, but then he jumped ship to a higher level , however that plainly wasn't a success, seeing as he's back here trying to rebuild his reputation.
How much money do you reckon we've spent over those 28 years cancelling contracts for managers and coaching staff? How many players have those 18 managers brought in that were clearly not good enough and had their contracts paid up or sat out half their contract not even on the bench? How many players have we failed to tie down to longer term contracts for them to leave for nothing? How many of those managers have been left high and dry by the funds or lack thereof to bring in the players that we need to be competitive at this level? Personally I blame the chairman for bringing in mostly sub-par managers and then going on to hamstring them, giving them almost no chance to be successful. I've lost count of the executives that we've had even since the move to the new ground, most of which have been paid off. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pound flushed away. The buck stops at the chairmans door.
How many times does the band on the Titanic need to change the tune before someone realises that the bloody ship is going down regardless? The club has been treading water for at least 2 decades and in his 24 years in charge we have spent 16 of them in the fourth tier or lower. Since the change from North and South divisions in 1958 until RW took charge we spent around half a dozen seasons in the bottom tier. He has been a far from successful chairman over his tenure, even taking us down to the dark place which we were very fortunate to escape from, as over the season we certainly didn't deserve to get out.
The amount of sycophants saying how great it was that he saved the club is frankly puke inducing. He almost destroyed us when he put Ratcliffe in charge and only a huge slice of luck got us out of the Conference. If not for that luck we would have likely disappeared into the oblivion of non-league football or worse. How many would singing his praises then?
how short and inaccurate some people's memories are , They forget the panic when tranmere tried to poach ratcliffe only for the chairman to hang on to him , in the last 3 decades as I explained in fine details not so long ago we have on average moved forward as a club both on and off the pitch , change treading water for punching above our weight and that's were we are , right at our limit , that's why we can't sell , because there's no one out there that can take us any further forward , and how fitting that your argument puts spin on us getting back into the league at the first attempt as a huge slice of luck Yes folks , 10 years in league one is bad stewardship , and promotion is a slice of luck , you heard it here first 😝 |
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Post by East Sussex Shrew on Aug 18, 2024 5:40:34 GMT 1
What is currently needed is men of quality, steel and desires (just like the vicars mistress!)
I will be on stand by should Paul or Roland ring me!
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 18, 2024 6:31:07 GMT 1
Hmm...I don't understand the doom and gloom...last 2 or 3 seasons we were asking for entertaining football. There's losing bad and there's losing good. We lost good today. The scoreline totally flattered them. We were equal for 80% of that game. We are attacking ladies and gentlemen. Can you remember what that feels like? I barely can. We are threatening, and getting bodies forward. Long balls are actually being held up and chased for. Crosses are coming in. The players believe. We should too. We have just lost 4 1 at home, do you expect people to be positive? Football is of course all about opinions but I'd completely disagree and feels like we watched a different game. Whilst I agree that we aren't setting up as defensively as we did under the previous managers and are attempting to 'have a go', how many chances did we create yesterday? How many spells of pressure did we have? How many saves did their keeper have to make? We had one header cleared off the line, apart from that we offered very little, Personally I thought they looked a different level to us, perhaps they should considering the different budgets but that's the worrying part, most clubs will be different level when it comes to budget. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 7:13:24 GMT 1
Hmm...I don't understand the doom and gloom...last 2 or 3 seasons we were asking for entertaining football. There's losing bad and there's losing good. We lost good today. The scoreline totally flattered them. We were equal for 80% of that game. We are attacking ladies and gentlemen. Can you remember what that feels like? I barely can. We are threatening, and getting bodies forward. Long balls are actually being held up and chased for. Crosses are coming in. The players believe. We should too. exactly we just want entertainment they said so far this season we've had one of the all time classics at the new ground , and yesterday right up until they killed us off with that 3rd goal we were quite entertaining some fans are just bad losers , only happy when we are winning , it's so embarrassing , if they don't like the manager it's his fault , if they like the manager they blame someone else and cry about it and the minute that 3rd goal went it the tears started flowing and the blame game started Pure cringe The only thing that’s embarrassing is thinking Tuesday was an all time classic 😂 but at this stage I can’t work out if your parody to increase the post count on here or genuinely believe what nonsense you say I actually didn’t think we were that bad yesterday. 4-1 was harsh. But nobody can deny they were miles better than us. We’ve been left behind by a long way. I’m seeing an ever more apathetic fan base have it’s passion and soul ripped out of us week in, week out. We turn up, expect to lose, do lose, and then people try to gas light us in to accepting a 4-1 home loss watching the worst defence in probably 10 years. History won’t look kindly on people defending this History also won’t look kindly on our Chairman anymore, which is sad really. He could’ve gone a hero years ago, he’s ruined it with every single Town fan I speak to |
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 18, 2024 7:40:01 GMT 1
I appreciate everyone has their own view here, and some see this as meltdown. Not all of us do, and in my opinion I'm not 'melting down', I'm carefully and gently expressing my supreme displeasure. It's not just about today's performance and result either, this has been building for at least 18 months, and what we're seeing is the culmination and reality of the level of investment that we're making (or, in our case, not making), and the stark reality of exactly how far (or not) that goes at this level, in what is an uber competitive league this season. For me it's a mixture of frustration, annoyance and apathy, and a sense that Roland's appalling recent stewardship of the club, his arrogant failure to take any responsibility for the overspend, and his stubbornness to sell the club when by all accounts there was interest, has got us into this sorry, sorry state. Hurst can only do what he can do with what he's given, and when your recruitment strategy starts with bargain basement injury prone journeymen, he's got little to no chance. Yes, Peterborough are a good side, credit where it's due, but not only did they absolutely rip us a new one but, and more worryingly, we offered absolutely no resilience or stubbornness at the back, with our league 2 (at best) defence dragged all over the place. It'll be the same against Birmingham and Wrexham and Huddersfield and Bolton and Barnsley and Rotherham and even Stockport and probably Mansfield. Unable to compete off the pitch and with absolutely no chance on it. There's a sense that the rot and, worse still, the apathy is spreading. Roland's delinquency has got us in this mess and his stubbornness will lead us to league two, where his asset will be worth even less. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, and my support will never waver, and hasn't for one single day since my first match in February 1989, despite it being almost 25 years now since I left Shrewsbury. I was at Stevenage last week and will be doing the almost 450 mile round trip from Suffolk to Huddersfield next week, and I'll continue to do so for the rest of my life but, sorry, to suggest this is a meltdown is way off beam, and doesn't appreciate that, for some of us, this is NOT a knee jerk reaction to today's pathetic performance, rather it is a considered reaction to the way that Roland has mismanaged 'our' (yes, I know Roland owns the legal entity, but show me any real fan who doesn't agree that the fans own the spirit of a club, always have, always will) club and to his arrogant and aloof failure to take any responsibility as Chairman for the mess he has allowed this club to become. He has enough credit in the bank from me that I won't direct anything other than frustrated annoyance at him rather than true vitriol (although I don't expect all to be so kind) but, Roland, it is time to go! Did anyone mention he's trying to sell , desperate to sell , can't sell , make your own story up if you like , but we need a genuine buyer to match the genuine seller , until then stop being pathetic , We are the Shrewsbury We cry when we lose Only one of us being pathetic here with our rudeness. My position on Roland is one of having a lack of confidence in his leadership and ability to take the club forward, simply due to his unwillingness to take any responsibility for the mess the club is in. He's the Chairman, in any other credible business the Chairman takes ultimate responsibility. His inability to do speaks to his arrogance and stubbornness. I know too little about the ins and outs of the club to comment on any possible sales, or not, but I know enough to know that I have lost faith in his ability as a Chairman to effectively steward 'our' club. Now, respectful debate please oh, and Roland out. |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 18, 2024 7:46:03 GMT 1
Seemed quite a poor crowd to me yesterday too.
But few mentioned that's fairly normal for first game? But I was still surprised.
Can see attendance was 500 more last year for the first game
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 7:49:43 GMT 1
Just seen Hursts interview. A good reasoned summary of the game and performance. Where I disagree is his view that Town fans are all nice kind people. Has he never looked at blue and amber. Tbf to Hurst he has never actually seen the ugly side of the fan base. I fear he soon will. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 7:53:19 GMT 1
Just seen Hursts interview. A good reasoned summary of the game and performance. Where I disagree is his view that Town fans are all nice kind people. Has he never looked at blue and amber. Tbf to Hurst he has never actually seen the ugly side of the fan base. I fear he soon will. I hope so. But I hope it’s not aimed at him |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 7:54:15 GMT 1
Seemed quite a poor crowd to me yesterday too. But few mentioned that's fairly normal for first game? But I was still surprised. Can see attendance was 500 more last year for the first game p**s poor opening day attendance, 5,000 at most there, people have had enough with the establishment in charge |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 8:17:53 GMT 1
Hmm...I don't understand the doom and gloom...last 2 or 3 seasons we were asking for entertaining football. There's losing bad and there's losing good. We lost good today. The scoreline totally flattered them. We were equal for 80% of that game. We are attacking ladies and gentlemen. Can you remember what that feels like? I barely can. We are threatening, and getting bodies forward. Long balls are actually being held up and chased for. Crosses are coming in. The players believe. We should too. Agreed. It is much harder to make a team creative and threatening than it is to tighten a defence. If we had some pace at the back to get us out of trouble when our press does not work we could be a decent team. Benning got turned inside out in the first half. Feeney was doing well before he went off. Nsiala is slow, poor positionally and his passing is limited at best. Pierre is slow but at least he has the footballing brain to make up for it somehow. He is also capable of playing a decent long pass. Hoole has been really inconsistent so far, signs of a decent player but some worrying signs too. Nurse could be the answer to our problems if we can get him fit again but that would be depending a lot on an injury prone player.` A back 5 of Hoole, Feeney, Pierre, Nurse and Benning could be a solid defence. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 8:34:06 GMT 1
Seemed quite a poor crowd to me yesterday too. But few mentioned that's fairly normal for first game? But I was still surprised. Can see attendance was 500 more last year for the first game p**s poor opening day attendance, 5,000 at most there, people have had enough with the establishment in charge You would struggle to find a town fan that does not think its time for RW to enjoy retirement. The club have said he is looking to do that. I fail to understand what it is you want? Do you want the fan base to revolt? refuse to goto games? protest on the pitch? Throw some tennis balls? Sit on his Bentley until he signs over the club to the fans? What you are relentlessly campaigning for is something that is already a desired outcome for RW. |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 8:38:51 GMT 1
p**s poor opening day attendance, 5,000 at most there, people have had enough with the establishment in charge You would struggle to find a town fan that does not think its time for RW to enjoy retirement. The club have said he is looking to do that. I fail to understand what it is you want? Do you want the fan base to revolt? refuse to goto games? protest on the pitch? Throw some tennis balls? Sit on his Bentley until he signs over the club to the fans? What you are relentlessly campaigning for is something that is already a desired outcome for RW. How do you know? Because he said so? Because Pilch said so? Funny that as Darragh MacAnthony said in a podcast earlier this week a club like Shrewsbury will sell easily in this day and age The sooner you stop trusting what the establishment tell you (club and on here) and apply some critical thinking you might make some progress? Do I want protests? No. Do I think we might need to protest? Yes |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 8:42:06 GMT 1
You would struggle to find a town fan that does not think its time for RW to enjoy retirement. The club have said he is looking to do that. I fail to understand what it is you want? Do you want the fan base to revolt? refuse to goto games? protest on the pitch? Throw some tennis balls? Sit on his Bentley until he signs over the club to the fans? What you are relentlessly campaigning for is something that is already a desired outcome for RW. How do you know? Because he said so? Because Pilch said so? Funny that as Darragh MacAnthony said in a podcast earlier this week a club like Shrewsbury will sell easily in this day and age The sooner you stop trusting what the establishment tell you (club and on here) and apply some critical thinking you might make some progress? Do I want protests? No. Do I think we might need to protest? Yes The club have come out and said it. I have not seen anything to suggest they are being dishonest. Please enlighten me with your superior intelligence and explain what your critical thinking has concluded? |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 8:51:13 GMT 1
How do you know? Because he said so? Because Pilch said so? Funny that as Darragh MacAnthony said in a podcast earlier this week a club like Shrewsbury will sell easily in this day and age The sooner you stop trusting what the establishment tell you (club and on here) and apply some critical thinking you might make some progress? Do I want protests? No. Do I think we might need to protest? Yes The club have come out and said it. I have not seen anything to suggest they are being dishonest. Please enlighten me with your superior intelligence and explain what your critical thinking has concluded? I’ve not said I have superior intelligence. Don’t play the victim I’ve concluded the club has gone massively backwards over a long period of time now - there’s some great posts on this thread that explain it far better than I can. We are absolutely dying off the pitch, through rudderless and ineffective leadership. The buck stops at the top regardless of whatever gas lighting you read on here about who’s to blame. And I don’t see it getting any better without a wholesale change and clear out of the establishment - club needs gutting from all of those who have let our stadium rust through neglect, let our fans walk away through their own stubbornness, who have alienated many local businesses, the list can go on I don’t believe a word the club, or Pilch (aka Jayne) tell me anymore. Which is a sad state of affairs |
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Post by rickyspanish on Aug 18, 2024 8:56:09 GMT 1
Happy Sunday Everyone...
Longest current winless run in the top four tiers of English football (league games)
1️⃣Shrewsbury Town - 9
2️⃣Cambridge United - 8
3️⃣Luton Town - 8
4️⃣Morecambe - 7
5️⃣Preston North End - 7
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:46 GMT 1
The club have come out and said it. I have not seen anything to suggest they are being dishonest. Please enlighten me with your superior intelligence and explain what your critical thinking has concluded? I’ve not said I have superior intelligence. Don’t play the victim I’ve concluded the club has gone massively backwards over a long period of time now - there’s some great posts on this thread that explain it far better than I can. We are absolutely dying off the pitch, through rudderless and ineffective leadership. The buck stops at the top regardless of whatever gas lighting you read on here about who’s to blame. And I don’t see it getting any better without a wholesale change and clear out of the establishment - club needs gutting from all of those who have let our stadium rust through neglect, let our fans walk away through their own stubbornness, who have alienated many local businesses, the list can go on I don’t believe a word the club, or Pilch (aka Jayne) tell me anymore. Which is a sad state of affairs I am not playing the victim, I was simply going along with condescending tone. Not many would disagree with what you have concluded. But what you think needs to happen is exactly what is going to happen. It is just a matter of when. I personally agree with you, I just don't see the need to constantly make digs and go over the same subject every single week. Like I said after Stevenage, we are where we are. That is going to remain the case until a suitable offer is made. Whatever happens RW deserves respect. He has worked hard to do his best for our club. He has made mistakes but there are a lot worse owners about. |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 18, 2024 9:20:29 GMT 1
Good post.
RW has been in charge for 28 years and in that time has got through 18 managers, starting with Fred Davies through to Matt Taylor and is now trying his luck with Hurst for a 2nd time. Of those 18 previous managers none have gone onto to noticeably bigger or better things, showing me that the chairman is clearly not a competent recruiter. The only thing close to a major success was Hurst first time around, but then he jumped ship to a higher level , however that plainly wasn't a success, seeing as he's back here trying to rebuild his reputation.
How much money do you reckon we've spent over those 28 years cancelling contracts for managers and coaching staff? How many players have those 18 managers brought in that were clearly not good enough and had their contracts paid up or sat out half their contract not even on the bench? How many players have we failed to tie down to longer term contracts for them to leave for nothing? How many of those managers have been left high and dry by the funds or lack thereof to bring in the players that we need to be competitive at this level? Personally I blame the chairman for bringing in mostly sub-par managers and then going on to hamstring them, giving them almost no chance to be successful. I've lost count of the executives that we've had even since the move to the new ground, most of which have been paid off. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pound flushed away. The buck stops at the chairmans door.
How many times does the band on the Titanic need to change the tune before someone realises that the bloody ship is going down regardless? The club has been treading water for at least 2 decades and in his 24 years in charge we have spent 16 of them in the fourth tier or lower. Since the change from North and South divisions in 1958 until RW took charge we spent around half a dozen seasons in the bottom tier. He has been a far from successful chairman over his tenure, even taking us down to the dark place which we were very fortunate to escape from, as over the season we certainly didn't deserve to get out.
The amount of sycophants saying how great it was that he saved the club is frankly puke inducing. He almost destroyed us when he put Ratcliffe in charge and only a huge slice of luck got us out of the Conference. If not for that luck we would have likely disappeared into the oblivion of non-league football or worse. How many would singing his praises then?
how short and inaccurate some people's memories are , They forget the panic when tranmere tried to poach ratcliffe only for the chairman to hang on to him , in the last 3 decades as I explained in fine details not so long ago we have on average moved forward as a club both on and off the pitch , change treading water for punching above our weight and that's were we are , right at our limit , that's why we can't sell , because there's no one out there that can take us any further forward , and how fitting that your argument puts spin on us getting back into the league at the first attempt as a huge slice of luck Yes folks , 10 years in league one is bad stewardship , and promotion is a slice of luck , you heard it here first 😝 Can’t sell, but RW recently turned away the consortium who bought Burton. So to say can’t sell is not true, would be interesting to know how many our chairman has turned away because they won’t be the only ones…. The longer RW hangs on the longer the clubs decline and time it will take to recover. Roland Wycherley will take Shrewsbury back to non league |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 9:42:10 GMT 1
Good post.
RW has been in charge for 28 years and in that time has got through 18 managers, starting with Fred Davies through to Matt Taylor and is now trying his luck with Hurst for a 2nd time. Of those 18 previous managers none have gone onto to noticeably bigger or better things, showing me that the chairman is clearly not a competent recruiter. The only thing close to a major success was Hurst first time around, but then he jumped ship to a higher level , however that plainly wasn't a success, seeing as he's back here trying to rebuild his reputation.
How much money do you reckon we've spent over those 28 years cancelling contracts for managers and coaching staff? How many players have those 18 managers brought in that were clearly not good enough and had their contracts paid up or sat out half their contract not even on the bench? How many players have we failed to tie down to longer term contracts for them to leave for nothing? How many of those managers have been left high and dry by the funds or lack thereof to bring in the players that we need to be competitive at this level? Personally I blame the chairman for bringing in mostly sub-par managers and then going on to hamstring them, giving them almost no chance to be successful. I've lost count of the executives that we've had even since the move to the new ground, most of which have been paid off. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pound flushed away. The buck stops at the chairmans door.
How many times does the band on the Titanic need to change the tune before someone realises that the bloody ship is going down regardless? The club has been treading water for at least 2 decades and in his 24 years in charge we have spent 16 of them in the fourth tier or lower. Since the change from North and South divisions in 1958 until RW took charge we spent around half a dozen seasons in the bottom tier. He has been a far from successful chairman over his tenure, even taking us down to the dark place which we were very fortunate to escape from, as over the season we certainly didn't deserve to get out.
The amount of sycophants saying how great it was that he saved the club is frankly puke inducing. He almost destroyed us when he put Ratcliffe in charge and only a huge slice of luck got us out of the Conference. If not for that luck we would have likely disappeared into the oblivion of non-league football or worse. How many would singing his praises then?
how short and inaccurate some people's memories are , They forget the panic when tranmere tried to poach ratcliffe only for the chairman to hang on to him , in the last 3 decades as I explained in fine details not so long ago we have on average moved forward as a club both on and off the pitch , change treading water for punching above our weight and that's were we are , right at our limit , that's why we can't sell , because there's no one out there that can take us any further forward , and how fitting that your argument puts spin on us getting back into the league at the first attempt as a huge slice of luck Yes folks , 10 years in league one is bad stewardship , and promotion is a slice of luck , you heard it here first 😝 Is 3rd tier football really punching above our weight? Until RW took over the helm this club spent more seasons in the 2nd tier than the 4th. Of the 28 years under RW we have spent 16 in the bottom tier or lower. We are now entering our 10th consecutive season in League 1. WooHoo. Of the previous 9 we have ended the season with more than 60 points just once and have managed a top half finish twice, every other season has been a battle for survival, usually guaranteeing that survival on the 2nd last weekend of the season. That's not the sort of excitement fans are looking for. One season we actually punched above our weight, one in 28 years. Not good enough.
We were 10 points behind Hereford. The play-offs only came in that season, prior to that we would have not had the chance to come back up via that route and we would have been stuck in the Conference, where and let's be honest here we hardly pulled up any trees, if not for a sprinkling of goals from our 44 year old manager off the bench we probably wouldn't even have reached the play-offs.
In hindsight it would have better for the chairman to let Ratcliffe go to Tranmere.
Off the pitch the club have stumbled forward, on that we can find agreement, but how much of that has been in spite of the chairman, rather than because of him? The move to the new ground is something he can take a lot of credit for, but there were a hell of lot of other people that went above and beyond without whom he would not have been successful. Would it have happened with a different person in charge? I don't know, no-one does.
I honestly don't know what the answer is, but what I do know is that (almost) every person on here wants the club to be successful, go on cup runs, beat the odds, push for promotion. Unfortunately we have stagnated into a struggling 3rd tier club, with dwindling support, lack of funds to move forward, a chairman unable or unwilling to work to bring in new investment or ownership and a fed up fan base that is just waiting for inevitable relegation and to becoming a struggling 4th tier club. It's doing no-one any good just sitting back and watching this happen in real time while defending the status quo and saying 'In Roland We Trust'.
He had his time to leave as a hero, even though he 'saved the club' from a mess of his own making, but that time is passed. He can leave in the very near future with some semblance of accomplishment intact or he can drag it out for a few more years and kiss goodbye to any perceived legacy.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 18, 2024 9:42:20 GMT 1
Extended highlights of the game.
Winchesters goal was brilliant technique.
Posh 3rd goal was a clear foul on Benning who got pushed in the back.
Benning does not come out of that match with much credit. Arguable should have done better with the first 3 Posh goals.
The highlights show just how much quality Posh have. Team full of pace, cohesion and quality finishing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 10:21:35 GMT 1
Seemed quite a poor crowd to me yesterday too. But few mentioned that's fairly normal for first game? But I was still surprised. Can see attendance was 500 more last year for the first game p**s poor opening day attendance, 5,000 at most there, people have had enough with the establishment in charge I had suggested a crowd of 5,570 in the pre match thread. Might have sounded a bit negative but ticket sales didn't seem that healthy at the time. Early kick off, on TV, holiday time contributory factors? |
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Post by kl8-2 on Aug 18, 2024 10:27:44 GMT 1
Cricket season.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 18, 2024 10:28:32 GMT 1
how short and inaccurate some people's memories are , They forget the panic when tranmere tried to poach ratcliffe only for the chairman to hang on to him , in the last 3 decades as I explained in fine details not so long ago we have on average moved forward as a club both on and off the pitch , change treading water for punching above our weight and that's were we are , right at our limit , that's why we can't sell , because there's no one out there that can take us any further forward , and how fitting that your argument puts spin on us getting back into the league at the first attempt as a huge slice of luck Yes folks , 10 years in league one is bad stewardship , and promotion is a slice of luck , you heard it here first 😝 Can’t sell, but RW recently turned away the consortium who bought Burton. So to say can’t sell is not true, would be interesting to know how many our chairman has turned away because they won’t be the only ones…. The longer RW hangs on the longer the clubs decline and time it will take to recover. Roland Wycherley will take Shrewsbury back to non league I think we all know the answer to our problems, it lies at the very top, but if we say so, we risk having our post removed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 10:31:20 GMT 1
Can’t sell, but RW recently turned away the consortium who bought Burton. So to say can’t sell is not true, would be interesting to know how many our chairman has turned away because they won’t be the only ones…. The longer RW hangs on the longer the clubs decline and time it will take to recover. Roland Wycherley will take Shrewsbury back to non league we risk having our post removed. As a respected poster I think you will be ok, I'm treading on eggshells though! All I would say is that leadership should come from the top. |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 18, 2024 10:36:35 GMT 1
Now I’ve slept on it, I think our performance yesterday (though outclassed) would’ve been enough to beat quite a number of teams in the bottom half last season. Now I fear there aren’t many of those type of teams in the division now, the teams who’ll sit 12th, 13th, 14th will have significantly more quality than us.
Oh and the idea Roland can’t find someone to sell the club to is absolutely laughable.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2024 10:37:02 GMT 1
Tbf to Hurst he has never actually seen the ugly side of the fan base. I fear he soon will. I hope so. But I hope it’s not aimed at him yes, because hursts recent record suggests hes faultless |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2024 10:37:51 GMT 1
I hope so. But I hope it’s not aimed at him yes, because hursts recent record suggests hes faultless Yet again, nobody has said that… don’t invent things |
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Post by blamber on Aug 18, 2024 10:39:51 GMT 1
I wasn't there yesterday but was at Stevenage. From what I saw at the Lamax it's not hard to work out that we are in for another season of struggle. What Cotterill spent in his final season with us is probably what we need as a budget to consistently be competitive in this division. But clearly, that sort of spend is not deemed affordable or sustainable for our club by the current regime. So, until Roland sells or more investment is secured, our sights will be set on doing better than other smaller clubs like Cambridge, Crawley, Northampton and Exeter. The problem is that our budget may be even smaller than those clubs. Where typically, we would try and work with a small squad that has some quality, we currently have a very small squad with very limited quality. The only plus is that we have got two very tough games against Posh and away at Stevenage (where we always lose) out of the way and we still have a couple of weeks to bring in some meaningful reinforcements - hopefully a central defender with some pace is among them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 10:43:30 GMT 1
Sadly even though yesterdays performance was far from the worst we’ve ever seen, it says a lot that we can still lose 4-1, imagine how bad it’ll be on a day when we do play rubbish. And with injuries to Feeney and Rossiter, it feels like the wheels are already well and truly off.
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