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Post by hectord0g137 on Aug 19, 2024 15:06:30 GMT 1
A great post Neil. Can I have a little input. When I Retired I treated myself to an older Mercedes SLK350. A magnificent motor and I loved it. I had 3 years blissful motoring. After a while I realised this was costing too much of my disposable income and needed to have a good think how to have the same fun but with less output. So I sold the Merc (at a loss) bought a Susuki ignis and still do the same miles for less money but have a car I can afford and do less showing off. I still want the Mercedes though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 15:16:56 GMT 1
I personally and without any ambition whatsoever enjoy being a supporter of a lower league club. It has done me well for seventy years. I have no interest in the Championship or the Premier league. I sometimes look at the National league and below and see some clubs who we used to play years ago and am very grateful that thanks to Roland we are still in the league. I sadly fully expect us to be relegated this season thanks to Caldwell and Cotterill but hope for some success in League 2. Ive admitted that I have no big ambition for the club and further admit being a miserable old git but I was always at my happiest at the Gay Meadow and am content at the New Meadow. We are what we are and if you cant accept that maybe its time to latch onto a plastic club like Wrexham like so many others have done. I'm a Shrewsbury Town supporter, end of. To suggest that those that wish for some tangible success for our club are plastic fans and should change their allegiance is offensive. You might be along some others happy to plod along in the lower reaches of this league with the odd drop down and maybe a promotion back up if we're lucky, but some of us want to see the club at least competing for top half finishes and maybe the occasional flirt with the playoffs. Yes, when we go into a new season there has to be some level of expectation when you support a club through thick and thin. That's what keeps us going, isn't it? |
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 19, 2024 17:24:33 GMT 1
When did I say our fans who wanted success were plastic. Typical of this board. Twist it if you can.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 19, 2024 17:37:46 GMT 1
Support if your a supporter and stop the moaning and blame game after a defeat.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 17:45:42 GMT 1
I personally and without any ambition whatsoever enjoy being a supporter of a lower league club. It has done me well for seventy years. I have no interest in the Championship or the Premier league. I sometimes look at the National league and below and see some clubs who we used to play years ago and am very grateful that thanks to Roland we are still in the league. I sadly fully expect us to be relegated this season thanks to Caldwell and Cotterill but hope for some success in League 2. Ive admitted that I have no big ambition for the club and further admit being a miserable old git but I was always at my happiest at the Gay Meadow and am content at the New Meadow. We are what we are and if you cant accept that maybe its time to latch onto a plastic club like Wrexham like so many others have done. I'm a Shrewsbury Town supporter, end of. To suggest that those that wish for some tangible success for our club are plastic fans and should change their allegiance is offensive. You might be along some others happy to plod along in the lower reaches of this league with the odd drop down and maybe a promotion back up if we're lucky, but some of us want to see the club at least competing for top half finishes and maybe the occasional flirt with the playoffs. for most of our chairmans reign fans would have given both arms to be plodding along in league 1 for 10 seasons, the trouble is youve got complacent, maybe a few seasons in league 2, occasionally flirting with either the play offs or relegation might bring you and others down to earth a bit ;-) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 17:50:14 GMT 1
I don't want to be in league two. I don't really want the championship,I just want good quality mid upper table league one without looking over the shoulder every season. That's not going to happen under RW with a board of two and no proactive management of the only league club in the county.
We're going to league two under Roland and it's not going to be any better there either!
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 18:07:28 GMT 1
I don't want to be in league two. I don't really want the championship,I just want good quality mid upper table league one without looking over the shoulder every season. That's not going to happen under RW with a board of two and no proactive management of the only league club in the county. We're going to league two under Roland and it's not going to be any better there either! I see what you did there, you automatically think a new chairman will deliver your wishes |
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Post by servernaside on Aug 19, 2024 18:13:48 GMT 1
I don't want to be in league two. I don't really want the championship,I just want good quality mid upper table league one without looking over the shoulder every season. That's not going to happen under RW with a board of two and no proactive management of the only league club in the county. We're going to league two under Roland and it's not going to be any better there either! Pathetic, puerile nonsense. Personally I'd like to finish 10th, have a GD of 24 and have a decent run in the FA Cup. If this doesn't happen in exactly that way, then toys will be thrown out of the pram. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 19, 2024 18:58:10 GMT 1
If an offer came in for Shipley...do you think Hurst would let him go....then get a couple of defenders in,if he could.... he's gorra be thinking about it!!
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 19, 2024 19:04:21 GMT 1
If an offer came in for Shipley...do you think Hurst would let him go....then get a couple of defenders in,if he could.... he's gorra be thinking about it!! I think we’d snap someone’s hand off for around £100k with 1 year remaining. He’s the last of the high earners and I’m sure they’d be keen to save another £100k in wages too |
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 19, 2024 19:16:27 GMT 1
Enjoyed the pre-match build-up on Saturday ahead of our first home league game of the season and, on a side note, loving our various kits. However, half an hour into the match, it all turned to a sinking feeling like that experienced towards the end of Matt Taylor's tenure; a fearful sense of being at a loss as to where things go from here.
Is one sliver of hope to cling to that we have not yet necessarily seen our best starting XI and formation?
A dreadfully tough-looking set of games ahead, nevertheless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 21:49:56 GMT 1
I don't want to be in league two. I don't really want the championship,I just want good quality mid upper table league one without looking over the shoulder every season. That's not going to happen under RW with a board of two and no proactive management of the only league club in the county. We're going to league two under Roland and it's not going to be any better there either! I see what you did there, you automatically think a new chairman will deliver your wishes You keep going on about realism and how fans apparently want the heavens of top flight football! So there's some realism for you and even that's wrong! Pathetic, move your goalposts again! You automatically assume RW would be able to achieve that. And for the rest of us the reality of what we're under is clear. Relegation and even more stagnant football. Oh well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 21:53:03 GMT 1
I don't want to be in league two. I don't really want the championship,I just want good quality mid upper table league one without looking over the shoulder every season. That's not going to happen under RW with a board of two and no proactive management of the only league club in the county. We're going to league two under Roland and it's not going to be any better there either! Pathetic, puerile nonsense. Personally I'd like to finish 10th, have a GD of 24 and have a decent run in the FA Cup. If this doesn't happen in exactly that way, then toys will be thrown out of the pram. Silly to say I want that too. But I can see that under RW that's not going to happen. Anything other than players pulling off a miracle but our stagnant luck has run out. Oh but silly me! That's puerile! Oh that's too much! Oh well. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2024 22:02:42 GMT 1
I see what you did there, you automatically think a new chairman will deliver your wishes You keep going on about realism and how fans apparently want the heavens of top flight football! So there's some realism for you and even that's wrong! Pathetic, move your goalposts again! You automatically assume RW would be able to achieve that. And for the rest of us the reality of what we're under is clear. Relegation and even more stagnant football. Oh well. Its hilarious isn't it. Who has said that new ownership or investment will automatically bring about anything? As far as I can see you simply stated that you do not think the current chairman is able to bring about what you mentioned. Not that anyone else is guaranteed to do so. Some just aren't able to have an honest discussion about this, its one strawman after another. Its weird. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2024 22:06:44 GMT 1
Pathetic, puerile nonsense. Personally I'd like to finish 10th, have a GD of 24 and have a decent run in the FA Cup. If this doesn't happen in exactly that way, then toys will be thrown out of the pram. Silly to say I want that too. But I can see that under RW that's not going to happen. Anything other than players pulling off a miracle but our stagnant luck has run out. Oh but silly me! That's puerile! Oh that's too much! Oh well. So what you saying is if we move on from the current chairman we'll have Champions League football in four years?  |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 19, 2024 22:49:02 GMT 1
You can throw me in the ‘pathetic’ category, who thinks we have probably reached the end of the road now as far as Roland is concerned.
I’m so ‘pathetic’ that I’ll admit, I don’t know if change will end up for the best but I feel pretty sure staying as we are won’t be. We’re on the path to League Two because we are being left behind, doing things the sustainable way. As someone who spends silly amounts following these home and away, week in & week out, it’s not a great feeling to have absolutely no expectation of something better.
All I’m after is a bit of entertainment from a competitive squad. You can see Hurst is trying it, and I commend it. I hope it ends up paying off, but honestly think we’re going to find the amount we spend is going to lead to a team being on the pitch that just isn’t quite good enough to achieve results doing it that way and at some point we’re going to have to resort back to digging our heels in and producing the type of performances that aren’t worth turning up for, in the name of points.
My expectations are genuinely fairly low. That was occasionally win in an entertaining fashion. Sadly, such is is the stupid world of football nowadays, I don’t think Roland’s way is going to be even able to achieve that.
For the avoidance of doubt from certain quarters of this messageboard - I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2024 22:54:38 GMT 1
Silly to say I want that too. But I can see that under RW that's not going to happen. Anything other than players pulling off a miracle but our stagnant luck has run out. Oh but silly me! That's puerile! Oh that's too much! Oh well. So what you saying is if we move on from the current chairman we'll have Champions League football in four years? No! I really don't even want us anywhere near the premiership! Just not the bloody painful soul destroying relegation battle every p**sing season. That's too much to ask. So I'm voting with my feet. Already missed two games I would have gone to. So yeah, that's how well RW is doing. I'm happily finding better ways to spend 400 or so pounds. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2024 23:10:59 GMT 1
You can throw me in the ‘pathetic’ category, who thinks we have probably reached the end of the road now as far as Roland is concerned. I’m so ‘pathetic’ that I’ll admit, I don’t know if change will end up for the best but I feel pretty sure staying as we are won’t be. We’re on the path to League Two because we are being left behind, doing things the sustainable way. As someone who spends silly amounts following these home and away, week in & week out, it’s not a great feeling to have absolutely no expectation of something better. All I’m after is a bit of entertainment from a competitive squad. You can see Hurst is trying it, and I commend it. I hope it ends up paying off, but honestly think we’re going to find the amount we spend is going to lead to a team being on the pitch that just isn’t quite good enough to achieve results doing it that way and at some point we’re going to have to resort back to digging our heels in and producing the type of performances that aren’t worth turning up for, in the name of points. My expectations are genuinely fairly low. That was occasionally win in an entertaining fashion. Sadly, such is is the stupid world of football nowadays, I don’t think Roland’s way is going to be even able to achieve that. For the avoidance of doubt from certain quarters of this messageboard - I sincerely hope I’m wrong. What is hurst trying ? In ricketts last 5 games we lost once away to Ipswich in the last minute , we scored 12 goals and had 10 against guess what it turned out fans didn't want exciting football after all , they just wanted to win |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 20, 2024 0:12:12 GMT 1
You can throw me in the ‘pathetic’ category, who thinks we have probably reached the end of the road now as far as Roland is concerned. I’m so ‘pathetic’ that I’ll admit, I don’t know if change will end up for the best but I feel pretty sure staying as we are won’t be. We’re on the path to League Two because we are being left behind, doing things the sustainable way. As someone who spends silly amounts following these home and away, week in & week out, it’s not a great feeling to have absolutely no expectation of something better. All I’m after is a bit of entertainment from a competitive squad. You can see Hurst is trying it, and I commend it. I hope it ends up paying off, but honestly think we’re going to find the amount we spend is going to lead to a team being on the pitch that just isn’t quite good enough to achieve results doing it that way and at some point we’re going to have to resort back to digging our heels in and producing the type of performances that aren’t worth turning up for, in the name of points. My expectations are genuinely fairly low. That was occasionally win in an entertaining fashion. Sadly, such is is the stupid world of football nowadays, I don’t think Roland’s way is going to be even able to achieve that. For the avoidance of doubt from certain quarters of this messageboard - I sincerely hope I’m wrong. What is hurst trying ? In ricketts last 5 games we lost once away to Ipswich in the last minute , we scored 12 goals and had 10 against guess what it turned out fans didn't want exciting football after all , they just wanted to win Well, we aren’t intentionally camping in our own half like we did most of the time under Taylor & Cotterill. It hasn’t worked so far, clearly. Ricketts did the same most of the time. Hurst will end up doing it too. It’s not really a shock that fans want their team to win by the way but I’d take a mixture of chaotic defeat followed by entertaining victory all day long over the stuff served up by Cotterill & co to steal points. |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 20, 2024 6:52:28 GMT 1
You can throw me in the ‘pathetic’ category, who thinks we have probably reached the end of the road now as far as Roland is concerned. I’m so ‘pathetic’ that I’ll admit, I don’t know if change will end up for the best but I feel pretty sure staying as we are won’t be. We’re on the path to League Two because we are being left behind, doing things the sustainable way. As someone who spends silly amounts following these home and away, week in & week out, it’s not a great feeling to have absolutely no expectation of something better. All I’m after is a bit of entertainment from a competitive squad. You can see Hurst is trying it, and I commend it. I hope it ends up paying off, but honestly think we’re going to find the amount we spend is going to lead to a team being on the pitch that just isn’t quite good enough to achieve results doing it that way and at some point we’re going to have to resort back to digging our heels in and producing the type of performances that aren’t worth turning up for, in the name of points. My expectations are genuinely fairly low. That was occasionally win in an entertaining fashion. Sadly, such is is the stupid world of football nowadays, I don’t think Roland’s way is going to be even able to achieve that. For the avoidance of doubt from certain quarters of this messageboard - I sincerely hope I’m wrong. Some very good points. I would argue that we have been poor from a business point of view. We have not been sustainable, we sat on a nest egg for a long time without taking many gambles so it just dwindled away for one reason or another. We were probably richer than most other clubs as not many were in the black. We wasted money getting rid of managers, giving poor managers money to spend, paying off players, paying poor players high wages, poor teams meaning lower attendances and so on. For years I wished we would have pushed the boat out and go for it a bit (Taking some risks, but not risking the clubs future). Its a dam shame we did it with SC who could not sign a player for anything less than silly money on a silly contract whilst still being unable to build a big enough squad to be competitive. If we went for a decent league 1 manager and a decent budget following the Hurst season we could have really kicked on as a club. Instead we went with Askey who lasted 5 minutes before we had to pay him off and was left with his poor signings and all momentum had gone to then bring in Ricketts who failed again before eventually RW has taken a gamble on SC who he had admired for many years. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but it does not look kindly on RW over the last few years. RW is a legend, he has done more for this club than most of us every will but it is time for him to enjoy his retirement. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 20, 2024 7:51:53 GMT 1
What is hurst trying ? In ricketts last 5 games we lost once away to Ipswich in the last minute , we scored 12 goals and had 10 against guess what it turned out fans didn't want exciting football after all , they just wanted to win Well, we aren’t intentionally camping in our own half like we did most of the time under Taylor & Cotterill. It hasn’t worked so far, clearly. Ricketts did the same most of the time. Hurst will end up doing it too. It’s not really a shock that fans want their team to win by the way but I’d take a mixture of chaotic defeat followed by entertaining victory all day long over the stuff served up by Cotterill & co to steal points. thats my point you wont, I seem to remember you were still unhappy when ricketts ditched 5 at the back late in his penultimate season and went on the attack, an example being Tranmere, 2-2 and threw everyone forward in injury time looking for the winner and got caught on he break 2-3, a defeat that didnt even matter as far as the league table was concerned, it did not deter any moaning and im sure you moaned too, fans that moan, always moan, end of |
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Post by servernaside on Aug 20, 2024 8:49:35 GMT 1
Well, we aren’t intentionally camping in our own half like we did most of the time under Taylor & Cotterill. It hasn’t worked so far, clearly. Ricketts did the same most of the time. Hurst will end up doing it too. It’s not really a shock that fans want their team to win by the way but I’d take a mixture of chaotic defeat followed by entertaining victory all day long over the stuff served up by Cotterill & co to steal points. thats my point you wont, I seem to remember you were still unhappy when ricketts ditched 5 at the back late in his penultimate season and went on the attack, an example being Tranmere, 2-2 and threw everyone forward in injury time looking for the winner and got caught on he break 2-3, a defeat that didnt even matter as far as the league table was concerned, it did not deter any moaning and im sure you moaned too, fans that moan, always moan, end of Amen |
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Post by kenwood on Aug 20, 2024 10:53:19 GMT 1
Oh well , played 2 lost 2,.
First game against a side who did well last season and second game against a very good side who have spent big on quality players .
We cannot afford to do that but apart from goals 3-4 which were hideous we competed well , worked hard and looked o k . Not great but with potential to improve.
We will be fine , no need for all this panic .
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