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Post by SamHarvey on Aug 13, 2024 22:53:31 GMT 1
Glad to have got the win, although a loss wouldn’t have been the end of the world. Must say I disagree with the comments regards fans venting their frustration a half time. It’s been a very frustrating few seasons, and going into half time it looked (looks) like being much of the same. All fans deserve to express their feelings. And who knows, that may have had an effect on that’s 2nd half showing.
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Post by vladimir on Aug 13, 2024 22:53:52 GMT 1
Kop this.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 13, 2024 22:53:57 GMT 1
I was really impressed with Lloyd. He's quick, strong, half decent in the air and made some brilliant runs.
Much improved game from Hoole after a shocker on Saturday.
Feeney needs to start. Nsiala was very poor, pulled out of position so easily time after time.
Winchester is like a man possessed this season.
I honestly believe Hurst instructed the players to let them have the ball at the hack first half and then implemented the press 2nf half. It worked a treat, for all of county's nice passing they could not cope with our press.
Savin worries me. Some suspect kicking, terrible blind pass straight to the attacker and I think he should have done a lot better with the shot that lead to the corner for County's 3rd goal. I was watching him warm up as the teams were taking shots at him. He saved 1 out of 20 shots. The lad defo needs time and a confidence boost.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 22:55:01 GMT 1
Feeney, Kayode and Lloyd in surely.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 13, 2024 22:57:01 GMT 1
Glad to have got the win, although a loss wouldn’t have been the end of the world. Must say I disagree with the comments regards fans venting their frustration a half time. It’s been a very frustrating few seasons, and going into half time it looked (looks) like being much of the same. All fans deserve to express their feelings. And who knows, that may have had an effect on that’s 2nd half showing. Normally I'd be more understanding but I think this season with the position we are in and the budget we have the fans need to he a hell of a lot more lenient. Shrewsbury fans are too quick to get on the players backs imo. The only acceptable time to boo/shout at players is when there is a lack of effort and I certainly did not feel that was the case at any point tonight. |
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 13, 2024 22:57:45 GMT 1
Our defending, or lack of, was appalling first half but I always felt Town were in the game and 2 0 was harsh, though when you’re that shocking at the back you deserve what comes your way etc etc.
We tightened that up second half and looked a proper unit, and continued to pose a threat we did in the first 45.
A thoroughly deserved and entertaining draw and for spirit alone, deserved the shootout win too.
Contrary to other opinion on this thread, I thought Kayode looked bright throughout and far more mobile than Marquis.
Savin and Nsiala huge concerns though.
Onto the next one, at least we know there’s some ability in there, League Two opposition or not.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 13, 2024 22:58:50 GMT 1
Well looks like they are going out. Not bothered, but they need a better second half to at least give a bit of confidence. Probably leave the team on to give them that. They don't look like they really know what to do. And in defence especially look terrified. Benning again one of the only ones that looks ok. Shipley looks totally unbothered. Wow, that didn’t age at all well did it? A game lasts 90 minutes so that is the time to assess a player’s performance. So sorry for the half dozen “true fans” in the South Stand who got up and left when we went 2-0 down - I hope they enjoyed the rest of their evening! |
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 13, 2024 23:00:53 GMT 1
Watched on sky sports plus as I got in late so admittedly only saw the 2nd half but what a really enjoyable game and comeback, and I always say winning penalties takes skill and character.
Onwards and upwards PHBA
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Post by Pilch on Aug 13, 2024 23:01:13 GMT 1
It’s a strange old one when on the one hand we’ve sold record season tickets, and on the other hand this looks like being one of the lowest attendances for a competitive, non-FLT game in modern memory. wrong again, best attendance for a long time town v notts 2914 in recent seasons, 1st or 2nd round games at home Taylor n/a cotterill town v Lincoln 2069 town v Carlisle 2269 town v rochdale 2229 ricketts town v rotherham 2813 askey town v burton 2708 hurst n/a Mellon town huddersfield 2862 we go back to 2014 before its bettered 4524 v Blackpool |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 23:11:53 GMT 1
Glad to have got the win, although a loss wouldn’t have been the end of the world. Must say I disagree with the comments regards fans venting their frustration a half time. It’s been a very frustrating few seasons, and going into half time it looked (looks) like being much of the same. All fans deserve to express their feelings. And who knows, that may have had an effect on that’s 2nd half showing. Normally I'd be more understanding but I think this season with the position we are in and the budget we have the fans need to he a hell of a lot more lenient. Shrewsbury fans are too quick to get on the players backs imo. The only acceptable time to boo/shout at players is when there is a lack of effort and I certainly did not feel that was the case at any point tonight. I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 13, 2024 23:19:16 GMT 1
Normally I'd be more understanding but I think this season with the position we are in and the budget we have the fans need to he a hell of a lot more lenient. Shrewsbury fans are too quick to get on the players backs imo. The only acceptable time to boo/shout at players is when there is a lack of effort and I certainly did not feel that was the case at any point tonight. I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. Feel for Savin, he replaced a keeper, who apart from one or two weaknesses was the best keeper in league 1. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 23:19:30 GMT 1
It’s a strange old one when on the one hand we’ve sold record season tickets, and on the other hand this looks like being one of the lowest attendances for a competitive, non-FLT game in modern memory. wrong again, best attendance for a long time town v notts 2914 in recent seasons, 1st or 2nd round games at home Taylor n/a cotterill town v Lincoln 2069 town v Carlisle 2269 town v rochdale 2229 ricketts town v rotherham 2813 askey town v burton 2708 hurst n/a Mellon town huddersfield 2862 we go back to 2014 before its bettered 4524 v Blackpool Nice passive aggressive start to that post. I overheard a steward saying they’d been told a likely crowd of around 1500, so there must’ve been a spate of sales today. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2024 0:07:49 GMT 1
I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. Feel for Savin, he replaced a keeper, who apart from one or two weaknesses was the best keeper in league 1. once again, first half. was a bit annoyed with our goalkeeper coach, now Savin or any keeper will know when they have made a mistake during the game, whether a big one or just a little flap, the last thing they then need is to see the GK coach hobble off the bench and wave his hand in the air, all it does is become a distraction to him, he will start looking out for it, it will play on his mind, and it will sure as hell result in another error, once the game kicks off leave him alone , after making an error all that needs to be on a keepers mind is to focus 100% on becoming a superhero to wipe away that error |
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 14, 2024 6:13:47 GMT 1
Normally I'd be more understanding but I think this season with the position we are in and the budget we have the fans need to he a hell of a lot more lenient. Shrewsbury fans are too quick to get on the players backs imo. The only acceptable time to boo/shout at players is when there is a lack of effort and I certainly did not feel that was the case at any point tonight. I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. I imagine they did, you could hear the managers loud and clear between chants. What a terrible first impression of the Salop home crowd for our new players. The majority in the RW stand couldn't even be bothered to clap at the end of the game. I know the game was not very important but show some appreciation for the players that have just come back from 2-0 down to win the game. Can I ask why you think the half time boos was Warrented! Other than the two goals we gift county I thought it was an even half in which we did have spells of dominance. |
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Post by rickyspanish on Aug 14, 2024 6:24:49 GMT 1
Ok, so a quick re-cap.
We were spurred on to be better in the 2nd half by the booing that at happened at the end of the 1st half.
We nearly lost the game though because of our Goalkeeping coaches antics.
And when we did finally win, people in the RW stand just got up and left.
What a night.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 14, 2024 7:09:15 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2024 7:50:08 GMT 1
I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. I imagine they did, you could hear the managers loud and clear between chants. What a terrible first impression of the Salop home crowd for our new players. The majority in the RW stand couldn't even be bothered to clap at the end of the game. I know the game was not very important but show some appreciation for the players that have just come back from 2-0 down to win the game. Can I ask why you think the half time boos was Warrented! Other than the two goals we gift county I thought it was an even half in which we did have spells of dominance. it's because some fans can't read a game , just the scoreboard Ps the RW stand was very appreciative at the end of the game , I know , I was there |
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 14, 2024 8:19:31 GMT 1
I don’t mind a half time boo off, it was warranted and it’s not personal, but I think individuals shouting focused abuse at the likes of Savin and Hoole isn’t on, in particular so soon into their Town careers. Heard a few distasteful shouts tonight, hopefully they didn’t. Feel for Savin, he replaced a keeper, who apart from one or two weaknesses was the best keeper in league 1. The weaknesses though were not minor ones. A keeper who doesn’t command his box and is suspect on crosses will find it hard to move up a level (as is seemingly the case). Add to that he hesitancy to “put his head in there” when coming out foe a 50/50 - understandably after a nasty injury at Coventry. Cech and Leutwiler had similar injuries and were never quite the same again. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2024 8:26:46 GMT 1
Can I ask why you think the half time boos was Warrented! Other than the two goals we gift county I thought it was an even half in which we did have spells of dominance. I didn’t boo myself, but when you put that first half into context, especially defensively, we were all at sea, and the longer the half went on the more vulnerable we looked, the more basic errors were being made, and we reverted to type of the past rubbish of being passengers on our own pitch. I can’t in all honesty say that it was an acceptable performance, even with mitigating factors. Fortunately we were much better after the break and so refreshing to see us throwing numbers forward, players being free to roam and with numerous creative outlets on the same pitch. I just hope we can show the same attacking spark when we’re not chasing the game. |
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 14, 2024 8:31:59 GMT 1
Savin - 4 - lacked confidence coming to get crosses, in the second half flapped one right down into the six yard box; the panic after that backpass in the first half was the start of the second goal for them.
Hule - 5 - did ok; certainly looks like he has room to develop
Nsiala - 4 - some good headers but too easily caught out by runners and needed to be helped out a couple of times by Feeney
Feeney - 7 - some excellent tackles back; covered for Nsiala and allowed Benning to go forward. Clearly would prefer to be on the right side of the pair, but better than Pierre. I'm hoping the other Feeney can play LCB.
Benning - 8 - my mom - always running, tackling back and at times our best creative threat.
Winchester - 6 - first half was running everything down, quieter second half but always there.
Rossiter - 6 - woeful header to put them through for the first goal, tried to make up for it with a couple of equally poor shots, moved forward of Winchester in the second half and improved - great assist.
O'Reilly - 7 - some excellent turns and always an outlet when things are tight; a few fantastic balls through to release players and some really neat turns.
Biggins - 4 - ran a lot and nearly got on the end of a couple of O'Reilly balls into the box; but always a couple of yards short and limited in what he does with the ball and passing vision.
Shipley - 7 - things didn't happen in the first half but in the second half he bossed the show; not just the two goals, but he was running all over the place and putting the tackles in. Great celebration to their fans after his penalty.
Kayode - 7 - cannot understand the criticism above; he was the only bright spot in the first half - closed down well, a real handful in the air and has quick feet on the ball - which he showed later in taking his goal really well.
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Lloyd - runs around a lot and has a great touch - I'd like to have seen him come in in place of Biggins in the number 10 role - he's got the skill to link up with Shipley, O'Reilly and the forward that I don't see in Biggins.
Bloxham - not the same outlet as O'Reilly on the right side, but offers something different - what a penalty.
Overall a really entertaining game.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 14, 2024 8:58:57 GMT 1
Ok, so a quick re-cap. We were spurred on to be better in the 2nd half by the booing that at happened at the end of the 1st half. We nearly lost the game though because of our Goalkeeping coaches antics. And when we did finally win, people in the RW stand just got up and left. What a night. Youve missed that it was all down to Taylor Perry who didn’t even play! |
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 14, 2024 9:06:23 GMT 1
I imagine they did, you could hear the managers loud and clear between chants. What a terrible first impression of the Salop home crowd for our new players. The majority in the RW stand couldn't even be bothered to clap at the end of the game. I know the game was not very important but show some appreciation for the players that have just come back from 2-0 down to win the game. Can I ask why you think the half time boos was Warrented! Other than the two goals we gift county I thought it was an even half in which we did have spells of dominance. it's because some fans can't read a game , just the scoreboard Ps the RW stand was very appreciative at the end of the game , I know , I was there Must be a good view from the Directors box?  |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 14, 2024 9:12:26 GMT 1
Firstly, well done to the management/players for the turnaround, on the hour mark we were 33/1 to win so great to come back to win from that position. Last night certainly wasn't a must win or anything like that but after the poor performance Saturday, it would have been demoralising to lose to a team in a league below. And it would have been easy for the team to crumble, 2 nil down with the fans on the back, showed a lot of character
As for the booing, I don't like culture that has crept in amongst some supporters that if you are losing you automatically boo, but come on, what did people expect last night? After a poor start on Saturday we wanted a response and found ourselves 2-0 down at half time to a team from the league below. Hurst himself has said that he told the team at half time time to the basics better (run more, close down players, use the ball better), if he's saying that then it's no no wonder fans aren't happy.
I know it's early days but I'm seeing fans expressing concern about Savin, Nsiala and Pierre, frankly I'm amazed as so many of our fans seemed relaxed about losing our first choice goalkeeper & centre half and said it wouldn't be difficult to replace them
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Aug 14, 2024 9:21:01 GMT 1
Mega impressed by Sky Sports +, first time in my life I've bought Sky Sports and not used someone elses just to be able to watch the Town, and what a game I chose to start.
That win will do wonders - our defending was abysmal mind.
Also I will try not to dampen the mood too much but to me it felt like as soon as Jodi Jones got subbed off for Notts we suddenly had control of the game, before that we weren't really up to much.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 14, 2024 9:35:09 GMT 1
Well done town for a fighting comeback and holding your nerve to get out first win.
This team is still sorting itself out and players may not be on each others wavelength yet.
I have concerns about our defence unless they improve we are going to struggle against the better teams and this looks to be a lot tougher league than last year.
I don't understand why anyone gets on players backs, who knows how much that might play on there minds and impact on their confidence and performance.
The second half did show that the team have the ability to do the basics if they can do that in every game and be tighter in defence will get us points.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 14, 2024 9:42:34 GMT 1
I followed the thread on b&a during the match. It was very amusing to see peoples emotions from wanting to jump off a bridge, to wanting to jump up on Juan.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2024 9:49:12 GMT 1
it's because some fans can't read a game , just the scoreboard Ps the RW stand was very appreciative at the end of the game , I know , I was there Must be a good view from the Directors box? Wouldn't know , never been near it , I was in block 6 |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2024 9:52:29 GMT 1
Firstly, well done to the management/players for the turnaround, on the hour mark we were 33/1 to win so great to come back to win from that position. Last night certainly wasn't a must win or anything like that but after the poor performance Saturday, it would have been demoralising to lose to a team in a league below. And it would have been easy for the team to crumble, 2 nil down with the fans on the back, showed a lot of character As for the booing, I don't like culture that has crept in amongst some supporters that if you are losing you automatically boo, but come on, what did people expect last night? After a poor start on Saturday we wanted a response and found ourselves 2-0 down at half time to a team from the league below. Hurst himself has said that he told the team at half time time to the basics better (run more, close down players, use the ball better), if he's saying that then it's no no wonder fans aren't happy. I know it's early days but I'm seeing fans expressing concern about Savin, Nsiala and Pierre, frankly I'm amazed as so many of our fans seemed relaxed about losing our first choice goalkeeper & centre half and said it wouldn't be difficult to replace them Speaking of bets , I had just 75p in my account and headed to put it in a 3-3 draw , whilst hunting for the correct score tab I foolishly saw another wild option and went for that instead ☹️ |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2024 9:57:26 GMT 1
Firstly, well done to the management/players for the turnaround, on the hour mark we were 33/1 to win so great to come back to win from that position. Last night certainly wasn't a must win or anything like that but after the poor performance Saturday, it would have been demoralising to lose to a team in a league below. And it would have been easy for the team to crumble, 2 nil down with the fans on the back, showed a lot of character As for the booing, I don't like culture that has crept in amongst some supporters that if you are losing you automatically boo, but come on, what did people expect last night? After a poor start on Saturday we wanted a response and found ourselves 2-0 down at half time to a team from the league below. Hurst himself has said that he told the team at half time time to the basics better (run more, close down players, use the ball better), if he's saying that then it's no no wonder fans aren't happy. I know it's early days but I'm seeing fans expressing concern about Savin, Nsiala and Pierre, frankly I'm amazed as so many of our fans seemed relaxed about losing our first choice goalkeeper & centre half and said it wouldn't be difficult to replace them If ever there was a reason for not booing , last night was the perfect example , we've come back from worse against better sides and won in this comp not so long ago , a chap I was sat with actually left at half time , can't wait to see him on Saturday 😝 , end of the day it's a game of football , just turn up support your side and very occasionally you'll go home delighted , sometimes happy , more often just satisfied but mostly disappointed , just take it or leave it , don't cry about it , that's what kids of 6 years old do when their side loses in the play off final 🥲 |
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 14, 2024 10:16:06 GMT 1
A word about the goalkeepers.....to me, there's not much between them.said that Savin looked 'tentative' after the derby friendly,and again last night.if young keeps working hard, he'll get his chance imo....his passing and kicking out is better than savings....we will see
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