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Post by ssshrew on Jul 3, 2024 21:57:29 GMT 1
If he has gone for more money then the club statement is a fact. It’s only questionable if it’s not true. It's not a question of fact. Most players who turn down contract offers do so because they get better offers elsewhere, I don't recall the club stating other players have left because they are getting more money elsewhere. Which makes me think there is more to this than we know possibly on both sides. However it went, either due to the club, the player or his agent, it was obviously acrimonious in the end.
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Post by AlisonS on Jul 3, 2024 22:02:09 GMT 1
I think the club statement on Udoh is poor. He has been with us for three years - a long time in modern football. So what, if the negotiations have been going for a year, he completed his contract and agreement wasn't reached to sign a new one. Ends are often messy and we always move on. As a supporter who watched rather a lot of him, he doesn't owe me anything. Whatever went on behind the scenes, we could have said our goodbyes with a bit more grace - players who have given less, have received a lot more.
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Post by capitalsalopian on Jul 3, 2024 22:03:51 GMT 1
Is that statement even leagal? To say someone left for the money? It could be udoh thinks he has more chance of promotion at wycombe and it happens to be that they're offering more. I'd be annoyed if I were udoh. Unfair from the club in my opinion.
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Post by mrcricket on Jul 3, 2024 22:09:04 GMT 1
Interesting set of photos that Dan chose on his post to say bye to Salop.
Noticed the one of him and Cotterill and I suspect many players have got long memories regarding the debacle at the end of last season.
Cotterill made Udoh. Leahy led Town the previous season so its not surprising.
That said Hurst is the best man to have around now.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 3, 2024 22:16:09 GMT 1
That's the exact game udoh was playing for best part of a year , it's what everyone knows he's been doing , but I guess another opportunity for the negative crew to have a pop at the club What's new How do we know that? would it make a difference if you did know it ?
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 3, 2024 22:19:40 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jul 3, 2024 22:30:08 GMT 1
they have some serious ambition those swedes , wanted to buy Shrewsbury on the cheap , opted for a side that are even cheaper , first signing a town player who couldn't get in our side , it's taken them 2 years to get that far But hey at least it give our negative fans another opportunity to moan
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 3, 2024 22:34:41 GMT 1
Lots to be negative about at the moment Pilch sadly.
You’re welcome to counter balance the negativity with some positivity?
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Post by salop18 on Jul 3, 2024 22:36:32 GMT 1
I can see a fan protest against Roland come that first home game against Peterborough. I’ve been wanting the bloke gone for the best part of ten years as it was clear as day we need investment to succeed further in modern day football but the majority laughed and discarded what I said. Now I’ve never seen the fanbase turn so much against Roland. His legacy is well and truly tarnished now, especially after seeing what’s happening at Burton.
If ‘South Stand Flags’ or anybody similar on here is crowd funding for a ‘Wycherley Out’ flag then let me know as I’ll donate. #WycherleyOut
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Post by vladimir on Jul 3, 2024 22:48:47 GMT 1
Overrated to be honest. I much prefer a director or chairman to average a statement every few seasons or so. Perhaps rig a kit vote here or there. Concoct some stories about little girls.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 3, 2024 22:53:41 GMT 1
I can see a fan protest against Roland come that first home game against Peterborough. I’ve been wanting the bloke gone for the best part of ten years as it was clear as day we need investment to succeed further in modern day football but the majority laughed and discarded what I said. Now I’ve never seen the fanbase turn so much against Roland. His legacy is well and truly tarnished now, especially after seeing what’s happening at Burton. If ‘South Stand Flags’ or anybody similar on here is crowd funding for a ‘Wycherley Out’ flag then let me know as I’ll donate. #WycherleyOut pathetic how about a giant flag IM ONLY HERE TO MOAN Maybe get one of the sandwich boards and write the end is nigh on it
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jul 3, 2024 23:48:01 GMT 1
Alongside a banner that says I Love the Chairman and I believe everything that he says.
Then we can all sit in front of the banner that we believe.
Someone may be sitting by himself 🙄
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 3, 2024 23:57:36 GMT 1
Is that statement even leagal? To say someone left for the money? It could be udoh thinks he has more chance of promotion at wycombe and it happens to be that they're offering more. I'd be annoyed if I were udoh. Unfair from the club in my opinion. He will certainly have more chance of sitting on the bench. He was pretty much a guaranteed starter here but there is competition for places there.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jul 4, 2024 0:01:47 GMT 1
Exactly......I can't understand him...going for a few more quid,and sitting on his arse on the bench...rather be playing every week myself.....crack on tho udoh
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jul 4, 2024 1:18:26 GMT 1
Shrewsbury Town are disappointed to announce the signing of Toby Savin after Toby opted to leave after being offered more money elsewhere
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 5:56:37 GMT 1
would it make a difference if you did know it ? So we/you don't know that then, you could have just said that. Just like you think some of us think the club can do no right, you think the club can do no wrong and automatically defend them and make accusations about the other party. And for the record, I didn't say the club are in the wrong, I said it depends on what has happened over the past 12 months, I haven't jumped to conclusions (unlike some). Like most things at this club, we are kept in the dark so don't know what's actually happened and therefore have to speculate.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 6:10:05 GMT 1
Exactly......I can't understand him...going for a few more quid,and sitting on his arse on the bench...rather be playing every week myself.....crack on tho udoh He's not going to be Wycombes answer to Scott Carson. He will be playing fairly regularly but perhaps he won't be playing every minute because they actually have some more attacking options. So he may get the odd rest alongside a better wage and playing for a team who have promotion ambitions. Yeah it's baffling why he would choose that over us.
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Post by secretshrew on Jul 4, 2024 6:17:13 GMT 1
I think the statement lacks class. Everything like that should stay in-house especially financials and point scoring should be left to the league not in club statements.
I don’t understand what the club aims to achieve by mentioning details of money and contract negotiations. We all knew he was probably going to leave for more money so putting that in a club statement just reeks of sour grapes and I bet our current players will be looking at that thinking ‘is this how I’m going to be treated when I leave?’
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Post by capitalsalopian on Jul 4, 2024 7:02:58 GMT 1
Is that statement even leagal? To say someone left for the money? It could be udoh thinks he has more chance of promotion at wycombe and it happens to be that they're offering more. I'd be annoyed if I were udoh. Unfair from the club in my opinion. He will certainly have more chance of sitting on the bench. He was pretty much a guaranteed starter here but there is competition for places there. Pretty much, although Hurst may have said he wants a 6ft+ target man up top so he may not get as many starts. Udoh will also back himself to make an impact as a striker there and may look at leahy and the rest of the Wycombe squad as more likely to provide him with chances. We'll never know!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 4, 2024 7:16:14 GMT 1
I guess the negative is that we are losing players we deem to be our best and to clubs in the same division. It does very much indicate that others are willing and able to spend funds that we simply do not have (in order to keep them).
That said though, I think we also have to consider that the squad of players we had last season brought about a 19th place finish, scored next to no goals and were pretty poor performance wise throughout. So the question is, should we be really concerned about losing players? Our performances last season would suggest there is better out there and its all about who we bring in as a replacement and we are just going to have to trust Hurst on that (that he can put an improved squad and team together).
I hope you get my meaning. If it was a decent squad and team of players who had a decent season last time around you'd be gutted to see it broken up. But a squad of players who performed as they did last season...not sure that needs to be the case. I mean you did get the impression from what was said that Hurst certainly wasn't too impressed with the squad he inherited. So perhaps he's happy to see moves come about that allows him to bring in others he feels would do a better job. Fingers crossed anyhow, just looking to add a positive spin on things...👍
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 4, 2024 7:19:32 GMT 1
How many on here would take Ryan Woods back? He's hit 30 now, but I would think that he's still got something to offer. Been released by Hull, so a free agent.
Thoughts.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 4, 2024 7:25:39 GMT 1
How many on here would take Ryan Woods back? He's hit 30 now, but I would think that he's still got something to offer. Been released by Hull, so a free agent.
Thoughts.
Signed permanently for Exeter. And to be honest, I think we need more physical and mobile players, we’ve never been a particularly gifted footballing side so him, or others of his style, would stand out like a sore thumb.
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 4, 2024 7:29:43 GMT 1
How many on here would take Ryan Woods back? He's hit 30 now, but I would think that he's still got something to offer. Been released by Hull, so a free agent.
Thoughts.
Signed permanently for Exeter. And to be honest, I think we need more physical and mobile players, we’ve never been a particularly gifted footballing side so him, or others of his style, would stand out like a sore thumb. Fair enough, I didn't know that he'd signed for Exeter. I disagree that he wouldn't fit in though, the lack of anyone with a footballing brain and the ability to pick a pass has been obvious at the club for years. That's why we're in a constant relegation fight.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jul 4, 2024 7:51:35 GMT 1
The club need to put a statement out ASAP.
Everything appears to be a shambles looking in - fans need an update. MM was due to give us one ages ago
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Post by East Sussex Shrew on Jul 4, 2024 8:09:42 GMT 1
Everything appears to be a shambles looking in - fans need an update? What looks a shambles? We are a club that is in debt due to the lack of money coming in via covid period and the Premiership not sticking to their word and helping support low league clubs. Yes, the club is in a transition stage at the moment, but at least we are not making 250 people redundant (Man Utd). My view is that we have a honest hard working manager and he will hopefully find some younger hungry players from division 2 or non league that we can develop and move on for money. Regarding Dan Udoh, he is 27 so its probably his last chance to get a good package more than town were offering. I dont blame Dan, but his greedy agent who probably was in his ear telling him he can get a better deal whilst he was thinking of his commission.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Jul 4, 2024 8:30:20 GMT 1
Now Udoh is gone let’s hope we can go after the loan option with Fraser again. As I understand it he was happy to come to Salop before having to be thrown into the wolves first team prematurely.
The boy is raw but clearly a talent. Geographically for closer to home we may still have an advantage to get him but clearly we can’t compete if bigger clubs want to take a punt.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 4, 2024 8:39:47 GMT 1
If he has gone for more money then the club statement is a fact. It’s only questionable if it’s not true. It says we offered what he wanted but he obviously wanted more so a bit of a strange statement. We offered him what we thought he wanted it seems. Maybe he wanted away from what’s been a bit of a car crash club over the last few years to a club showing ambitions above their size.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 4, 2024 8:52:13 GMT 1
If he has gone for more money then the club statement is a fact. It’s only questionable if it’s not true. It says we offered what he wanted but he obviously wanted more so a bit of a strange statement. We offered him what we thought he wanted it seems. Maybe he wanted away from what’s been a bit of a car crash club over the last few years to a club showing ambitions above their size. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had initial demands that we messed around with, and by the time we finally met them he was already having second thoughts due to the s**t show that was coming from the pitch but also the boardroom and felt even worse was to come. He’s absolutely entitled to choose to move on for whatever reason he wishes.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 8:59:45 GMT 1
Going back to the statement, maybe I've got it wrong when I thought it was classless and the sort of thing you'd expect from a petulant teenager ranting on twitter seeing their favourite player leave. Perhaps, it is in fact a new era at the club where they are going to start being open with us and telling us more about the reasons for certain events, in this case Daniel Udoh leaving because he is choosing to get more money elsewhere. I look forward to similar updates as players arrive & depart in the future.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 4, 2024 9:04:39 GMT 1
Now Udoh is gone let’s hope we can go after the loan option with Fraser again. As I understand it he was happy to come to Salop before having to be thrown into the wolves first team prematurely. The boy is raw but clearly a talent. Geographically for closer to home we may still have an advantage to get him but clearly we can’t compete if bigger clubs want to take a punt. The most worrying part for me is on an 'incoming players' thread, most of the conversation is about departing players. A lad at work has asked me who are we bringing in to replace Udoh, I have no idea, there's not even any rumours about incoming players at the moment
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