|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 13:29:08 GMT 1
you think we paid 6 figures for him ? I have no idea but I very much doubt that, I would guess it was more like 10-20k with a load of adds ons that very likely none were met oh, well I guess being ambitious has its risks at times The fee was around 100k (I like this bit) who told you ? have you got proof ? or maybe that might have been a potential maximum eg £10k upfront £10k after 10 goals £10k after 50 appearances £10k after 10 international appearances £10k on signing a contract extension £1k. goal up to 25 goals £25K promotion payment so £11k  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 13:37:37 GMT 1
Whatever the figure was, we paid money for him, he was signed on a 3 year deal, was sent on loan a few months later and then looks like he's leaving less than 12 months later (having scored 1 goal). It's a dud of a signing at the best of times, but when you are a cash-strapped club, it's an absolute shambles.
I expect Idowu to be be the next one out (having signed a 2 and a half year deal)
|
|
|
|
Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 3, 2024 13:39:54 GMT 1
Mata certainly wasnt a success but if you dont take a chance on young players untried at our level you wont have any successes.
It's the nature of the level we have to shop at these days.
Move on and hope we didnt pay anything like £100 k for him.
|
|
|
|
Post by chirkshrew on Jun 3, 2024 13:47:16 GMT 1
Now which person gave him a 3 yr contract??🤦 absolute disaster of a signing....and we can't afford anymore like that,this coming season!!
|
|
|
|
Post by suttonshrew on Jun 3, 2024 13:49:19 GMT 1
(I like this bit) who told you ? have you got proof ? or maybe that might have been a potential maximum eg £10k upfront £10k after 10 goals £10k after 50 appearances £10k after 10 international appearances £10k on signing a contract extension £1k. goal up to 25 goals £25K promotion payment so £11k what a thoroughly depressing stat |
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 13:51:34 GMT 1
Now which person gave him a 3 yr contract??🤦 absolute disaster of a signing....and we can't afford anymore like that,this coming season!! irrelevant how long his contract was if we are getting rid of him as daft as it seems had he been given a 2 year contract instead of 3 that could have had implications on our budget leaving us with even less to spend on wages |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 14:01:53 GMT 1
Mata certainly wasnt a success but if you dont take a chance on young players untried at our level you wont have any successes. It's the nature of the level we have to shop at these days. Move on and hope we didnt pay anything like £100 k for him. Signing unproven youngsters is nothing new for us, they normally get given a 12 month contract and then end up getting released at the end of that. In this case we have spent money on an unproven striker and gave him a 3 year contract, I wouldn't put that in the 'taking a chance' category |
|
|
|
Post by bizzylad on Jun 3, 2024 14:08:52 GMT 1
Outgoing but Dunkleys move to Chesterfield should to be done and dusted very soon .
|
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 14:11:53 GMT 1
Mata certainly wasnt a success but if you dont take a chance on young players untried at our level you wont have any successes. It's the nature of the level we have to shop at these days. Move on and hope we didnt pay anything like £100 k for him. Signing unproven youngsters is nothing new for us, they normally get given a 12 month contract and then end up getting released at the end of that. In this case we have spent money on an unproven striker and gave him a 3 year contract, I wouldn't put that in the 'taking a chance' category how much do you think he was on ? and what would you be saying had he scored 40 goals last year and we only gave him a 12 month contract ? the fact he still has 2 years and is rumoured to be going or gone, suggests he wasn't on much at all as I doubt he's getting a wage rise wherever he is going |
|
|
|
Post by vladimir on Jun 3, 2024 14:20:39 GMT 1
Mata certainly wasnt a success but if you dont take a chance on young players untried at our level you wont have any successes. It's the nature of the level we have to shop at these days. Move on and hope we didnt pay anything like £100 k for him. Signing unproven youngsters is nothing new for us, they normally get given a 12 month contract and then end up getting released at the end of that. In this case we have spent money on an unproven striker and gave him a 3 year contract, I wouldn't put that in the 'taking a chance' category Agreed with this, we've rarely given out 3 year deals over the years, I can think of barely 10 over 10 seasons and certainly none on unproven players (Pyke aside) All for taking a chance, but this one was a monumental miss. |
|
|
|
Post by davycrockett on Jun 3, 2024 14:35:08 GMT 1
I would have thought that Hurst would maybe have enough confidence in young Beckles to start the season as our back up keeper. Not sure he's still at the club? 2 year scholarship has ended and I didn't see anywhere he was given a pro contract? Also haven’t seen anywhere that they were all released… the 1st team players that left were immediately moved from shrewweb, those still considering are still showing, he’s still showing in the Under 18 squad with a few others. |
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 14:42:56 GMT 1
Signing unproven youngsters is nothing new for us, they normally get given a 12 month contract and then end up getting released at the end of that. In this case we have spent money on an unproven striker and gave him a 3 year contract, I wouldn't put that in the 'taking a chance' category Agreed with this, we've rarely given out 3 year deals over the years, I can think of barely 10 over 10 seasons and certainly none on unproven players (Pyke aside) All for taking a chance, but this one was a monumental miss. speculating on speculation is always funny |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 14:48:10 GMT 1
Signing unproven youngsters is nothing new for us, they normally get given a 12 month contract and then end up getting released at the end of that. In this case we have spent money on an unproven striker and gave him a 3 year contract, I wouldn't put that in the 'taking a chance' category how much do you think he was on ? and what would you be saying had he scored 40 goals last year and we only gave him a 12 month contract ? the fact he still has 2 years and is rumoured to be going or gone, suggests he wasn't on much at all as I doubt he's getting a wage rise wherever he is going I'm struggling to see how the fact he has 2 years left and is going would suggest he's not on much. I've no idea how much he's on, my guess is he will be on an average STFC wage, nowhere near the top earners but more than a youth player released from a Prem/Championship club. And I'm guessing that he will now walk away with a nice pay-off because of how long he's got left on his contract, let's say he's on £1,000 a week, he's walking away from £100k+ by leaving. I'm pretty confident that his agent will be telling the club we need to pay him off if we want to get rid of him. At a time when finances are tight (to the point the club are asking fans to donate their time to do things like litter picking), then we could really afford to not waste money like this. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 14:51:45 GMT 1
Outgoing but Dunkleys move to Chesterfield should to be done and dusted very soon . Surprised at that, I thought he could still do a job in L1 With the discussion on Mata & Dunkley, perhaps we should rename this thread to 'official outgoing players rumours thread' (sadly I expect there will be more) |
|
|
|
Post by chirkshrew on Jun 3, 2024 14:55:26 GMT 1
Well let's put it like this,we can't afford to many cockups like the Mata one,unless the clubs got more money than we think!!🤔🤔😳
|
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 15:00:28 GMT 1
how much do you think he was on ? and what would you be saying had he scored 40 goals last year and we only gave him a 12 month contract ? the fact he still has 2 years and is rumoured to be going or gone, suggests he wasn't on much at all as I doubt he's getting a wage rise wherever he is going I'm struggling to see how the fact he has 2 years left and is going would suggest he's not on much. I've no idea how much he's on, my guess is he will be on an average STFC wage, nowhere near the top earners but more than a youth player released from a Prem/Championship club. And I'm guessing that he will now walk away with a nice pay-off because of how long he's got left on his contract, let's say he's on £1,000 a week, he's walking away from £100k+ by leaving. I'm pretty confident that his agent will be telling the club we need to pay him off if we want to get rid of him. At a time when finances are tight (to the point the club are asking fans to donate their time to do things like litter picking), then we could really afford to not waste money like this. there is always a conspiracy fitted around the worst possible scenario that could be dreamt up, maybe this guy just wants a sideways move to somewhere more suitable for him |
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 15:25:14 GMT 1
Just to add to the above, Mata has signed for Auckland. Should be announced today. Can’t imagine they could afford to pay much for him. Surely a six-figure loss for Town. Really poor business. did you mean today our time ? since your post its now tomorrow (Tuesday) in Aukland ;-) I guess if its true it will be later tonight our time, breakfast time there ? |
|
|
|
Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 3, 2024 16:11:57 GMT 1
It’s winter in NZ, are we sure he’s not going to play there until our season starts?
|
|
|
|
Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 3, 2024 16:14:44 GMT 1
It’s winter in NZ, are we sure he’s not going to play there until our season starts? Doubt it, he could have stayed playing in LOI if that was going to happen as they play in summer months. He was recalled about 2 weeks ago, reason now becoming obvious. |
|
|
|
Post by blood red shrews on Jun 3, 2024 17:13:56 GMT 1
Think New Zealand have games next week at the OFC nations cup and Chris Wood is injured so imagine he was always going to be leaving Ireland then as LOI season is still ongoing. The poor lads probably not had time off for 2 years going from LOI season to the UK then back and now international football.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jun 3, 2024 17:33:18 GMT 1
how much do you think he was on ? and what would you be saying had he scored 40 goals last year and we only gave him a 12 month contract ? the fact he still has 2 years and is rumoured to be going or gone, suggests he wasn't on much at all as I doubt he's getting a wage rise wherever he is going I'm struggling to see how the fact he has 2 years left and is going would suggest he's not on much. I've no idea how much he's on, my guess is he will be on an average STFC wage, nowhere near the top earners but more than a youth player released from a Prem/Championship club. And I'm guessing that he will now walk away with a nice pay-off because of how long he's got left on his contract, let's say he's on £1,000 a week, he's walking away from £100k+ by leaving. I'm pretty confident that his agent will be telling the club we need to pay him off if we want to get rid of him. At a time when finances are tight (to the point the club are asking fans to donate their time to do things like litter picking), then we could really afford to not waste money like this. I'd like to hope he wanted to return home, and Auckland FC wanted him (they are a new club pulling together a squad so will have more freedom than most budget wise) and so an agreement was made that town would waive a fee to allow it to happen but without paying him off. Obviously I've no idea, but I agree I doubt he's on a high wage, Either way, if Hurst was never going to play him, it's better he's moved on as early as possible so that they know who to look and how much money they have for them |
|
|
|
Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jun 3, 2024 18:33:43 GMT 1
how much do you think he was on ? and what would you be saying had he scored 40 goals last year and we only gave him a 12 month contract ? the fact he still has 2 years and is rumoured to be going or gone, suggests he wasn't on much at all as I doubt he's getting a wage rise wherever he is going I'm struggling to see how the fact he has 2 years left and is going would suggest he's not on much. I've no idea how much he's on, my guess is he will be on an average STFC wage, nowhere near the top earners but more than a youth player released from a Prem/Championship club. And I'm guessing that he will now walk away with a nice pay-off because of how long he's got left on his contract, let's say he's on £1,000 a week, he's walking away from £100k+ by leaving. I'm pretty confident that his agent will be telling the club we need to pay him off if we want to get rid of him. At a time when finances are tight (to the point the club are asking fans to donate their time to do things like litter picking), then we could really afford to not waste money like this. Agree with your points , but no chance he will be on £1k a week. strikers don’t come cheap, even from Ireland he will be on £1,500+ |
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Jun 3, 2024 18:47:16 GMT 1
I'm struggling to see how the fact he has 2 years left and is going would suggest he's not on much. I've no idea how much he's on, my guess is he will be on an average STFC wage, nowhere near the top earners but more than a youth player released from a Prem/Championship club. And I'm guessing that he will now walk away with a nice pay-off because of how long he's got left on his contract, let's say he's on £1,000 a week, he's walking away from £100k+ by leaving. I'm pretty confident that his agent will be telling the club we need to pay him off if we want to get rid of him. At a time when finances are tight (to the point the club are asking fans to donate their time to do things like litter picking), then we could really afford to not waste money like this. Agree with your points , but no chance he will be on £1k a week. strikers don’t come cheap, even from Ireland he will be on £1,500+ ignore that though, Mata was on close to €90,000 |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 16:37:28 GMT 1
Jack Nolan would have been an interesting punt, if only he had not signed for Gillingham!
|
|
|
|
Post by darkshrew on Jun 5, 2024 8:19:40 GMT 1
Jack Nolan would have been an interesting punt, if only he had not signed for Gillingham! I completely agree - just the kind of player we should be after - under 25 with potential. Unfortunately it would have required a fee and we aren't in a position to pay one. |
|
|
|
Post by gtismygod on Jun 6, 2024 12:24:36 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of rumours that Price will be signing elsewhere since we haven’t offered him a deal. Very disappointing if true.
|
|
|
|
Post by Exkeeper on Jun 6, 2024 12:37:39 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of rumours that Price will be signing elsewhere since we haven’t offered him a deal. Very disappointing if true. No club are likely to take a chance on him unless he can prove his fitness to last 90minutes and that is exactly the programme that we have offered him. |
|
|
|
Post by gtismygod on Jun 6, 2024 12:40:10 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of rumours that Price will be signing elsewhere since we haven’t offered him a deal. Very disappointing if true. No club are likely to take a chance on him unless he can prove his fitness to last 90minutes and that is exactly the programme that we have offered him. People on Facebook and Twitter are saying that he’s had offers. As I say, not sure how true that is. |
|
|
|
Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 6, 2024 12:51:00 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of rumours that Price will be signing elsewhere since we haven’t offered him a deal. Very disappointing if true. We cant afford to take any chances on a player who will command a decent wage. He gave me no indications in his few weeks with us last season that we should be offering him a contract unless he can significantly step up from where he was 6/8 weeks ago. I doubt too many clubs would do so either. |
|
|
|
Post by chirkshrew on Jun 6, 2024 13:19:18 GMT 1
Absolutely.... it's not worth the risk,need young players to get around our bigger pitch,and yes,a couple of experienced ones,who are still fit,and ready to go👍
|
|
