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Post by Pilch on Apr 25, 2024 21:09:38 GMT 1
I heard a rumour these have been started
I've no idea who has been released but who would you let go ?
These are all those out of contract
Burgoyne Marosi
Benning Bennett Flanaghan
Obrien Bowman Udoh
We have an option on these
Bayliss Sraha Sobowale Dunkley
I don't fully understand what happens when we have an option but I'm guessing we can extend the existing contract without any talks or tear that up and start a new offer at which point the player could walk away
On that basis I would be releasing bayliss and triggering the other 3 with an option
Obrien and bowman are gone for me
Udoh probably offered a great deal and he needs to stay loyal and sign it , get pen to paper Dan
Benning I was shocked to find he's out of contract , would offer and hope he signs a new one
Flanagan and Bennett , both a no for different reasons
And I'd be happy if both keepers stayed for another year , Harry as a cheap number 2 but flip of a coin there , and marosi , he's clearly been overpaid and that's not going to continue , might take some convincing there but worth a try to keep him at a lower wage , he's been great for us but I've seen better keepers in this division this season
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Post by Scarecrow on Apr 25, 2024 21:12:37 GMT 1
Marosi and Udoh deserve contract offers but will likely turn us down.
Everyone else can leave out the exit door.
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 25, 2024 21:35:28 GMT 1
I agree with you on all that Pilch. Exactly what I would do too.
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 25, 2024 21:35:49 GMT 1
Tie down Hurst first if he isn't already.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 25, 2024 21:40:55 GMT 1
Yep.... pretty much agree with pilch.....and yes definitely offer benning a new deal..... he's done very well
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 25, 2024 22:04:37 GMT 1
Some tough decisions to be made....but hopefully the right ones
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 25, 2024 22:13:17 GMT 1
Benning has done well under Hurst and links up well with Shippers. I hope he stays too
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 25, 2024 22:25:35 GMT 1
Burgoyne - offer cheap deal but I'd guess by now he would want to play more regular even at a lower level. Dont expect him to stay. Marosi - wages will no doubt be the issue here. Offer the best we can, hopefully we can come to agreement for him to sign then sell on for better wages. Another I dont see being here being season. benning - doubt he is on a fortune. Offer a slight increase and hope he will stay. Bennett - hopefully could offer a deal as player/coach. Think he would stay here but probably only a back up player next season rather than a regular. Flanagan - surely wont be here next season. Alleged wages and certain things said off the field will mean he is off. O'Brien - nuff said. Bye bye, dont call us. Bowman - Another who wont be offered anything. Udoh - be nice if we could get him a decent partner to play alongside to bring the best out of him. But I guess we wont be able to offer what he will be offered elsewhere so will be off. Bayliss - another high earner who doesnt do enough. Thanks and bye. Sraha - If PH thinks he can use him then I doubt it would break the bank to keep him. Sobowale - another who PH might be able to turn into a better player. Wont cost a fortune if so. Dunkley - again probably a wages issue. Offer best we can but i doubt it's going to be enough to keep him.
All of that said whoever of that lot go they are all replaceable so let PH do what he needs to do, hopefully we will see a better team overall to what we have seen this season.
Of course there could be other surprises with one or two higher earners under contract not with us next year too. There can be negotiations that might move one or two on just to get them off the wage bill. I wouldnt be surprised to see that too.
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 25, 2024 22:29:12 GMT 1
We have been an unbalanced side for a few years now. Lets see if Hurst can get players through the door that will actually play in the positions they prefer. That would be a good start!
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Post by suttonshrew on Apr 25, 2024 22:41:05 GMT 1
Wouldn’t be surprised if they all go, with new offers to Udoh and Benning
Wages seem to have been the major problem financially so club will want to realign things I’d imagine
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 26, 2024 5:46:47 GMT 1
Certainly going to be interesting, and its a tough time for those making the decisions. Do you release your big name players such as Marosi & Dunkley (maybe Bayliss) because of their cost? I can understand why you would because of the financial position but you are losing a lot of quality and probably unlikely to attract anything as good in our current situation
I'm expecting Flanaghan, O'Brien, Bowman and Bennett to be released, the 4 of them haven't contributed a lot this season (for a variety of reasons).
I'm expecting Udoh will be offered a new contract but will be amazed if he remains with us.
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Post by neilsalop on Apr 26, 2024 6:04:18 GMT 1
Udoh can go. 10 goals from our so-called striker in 42 games is not a good return by any standard.
I'd keep Benning.
Bennett is a difficult one with his age, but he doesn't let us down very often and with a coaching role thrown in is IMO worth keeping.
I think that the players offered new or extended contracts will look at Hurst and think that he could deliver with a full transfer window and pre-season and that might give them the confidence to stay here
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mike75
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Post by mike75 on Apr 26, 2024 6:21:03 GMT 1
Pilch, I believe you have left a name off your list
Aaron Pierre for me he probably deserves a one year offer, I don't think he would be on mega bucks
I wouldn't be surprised if the following were released
Burgoyne Marosi Dunkley Flanagan Bennett Bowman O'Brien
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Post by darkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 6:29:28 GMT 1
Burgoyne - offer cheap deal but I'd guess by now he would want to play more regular even at a lower level. Dont expect him to stay. Marosi - wages will no doubt be the issue here. Offer the best we can, hopefully we can come to agreement for him to sign then sell on for better wages. Another I dont see being here being season. benning - doubt he is on a fortune. Offer a slight increase and hope he will stay. Bennett - hopefully could offer a deal as player/coach. Think he would stay here but probably only a back up player next season rather than a regular. Flanagan - surely wont be here next season. Alleged wages and certain things said off the field will mean he is off. O'Brien - nuff said. Bye bye, dont call us. Bowman - Another who wont be offered anything. Udoh - be nice if we could get him a decent partner to play alongside to bring the best out of him. But I guess we wont be able to offer what he will be offered elsewhere so will be off. Bayliss - another high earner who doesnt do enough. Thanks and bye. Sraha - If PH thinks he can use him then I doubt it would break the bank to keep him. Sobowale - another who PH might be able to turn into a better player. Wont cost a fortune if so. Dunkley - again probably a wages issue. Offer best we can but i doubt it's going to be enough to keep him. All of that said whoever of that lot go they are all replaceable so let PH do what he needs to do, hopefully we will see a better team overall to what we have seen this season. Of course there could be other surprises with one or two higher earners under contract not with us next year too. There can be negotiations that might move one or two on just to get them off the wage bill. I wouldnt be surprised to see that too. Agree completely - really hope that Elliott Bennett does stay as player coach - he is a class act.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 26, 2024 6:35:03 GMT 1
Pilch, I believe you have left a name off your list Aaron Pierre for me he probably deserves a one year offer, I don't think he would be on mega bucks I wouldn't be surprised if the following were released Burgoyne Marosi Dunkley Flanagan Bennett Bowman O'Brien Yes , I agree with Pierre , and also forgot jack price I think Pierre will get a contract and price offered something too
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Post by secretshrew on Apr 26, 2024 6:38:49 GMT 1
Agree with everyone else. There’s always a ‘shock’ in the list. I think we’ll offer Bennett another year. His experience was obvious in our last few games. Hopefully Price too but I’m not sure that will happen sadly. Think his body has given up on him! Are Anderson & Perry on longer contracts? Pierre over Sraha for me too. Never thought I’d be saying that.
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shrewinspain
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Post by shrewinspain on Apr 26, 2024 7:33:54 GMT 1
My prediction is:
Release: Harry Burgoyne Tom Flanagan Josh Bailey Declan Hutchings Nana Owusu Tom Bayliss Ryan Bowman Aiden O'Brien Aaron Pierre
Offer BUT not accepted: Marko Marosi Chey Dunkley Daniel Udoh
Sell: Roland Idowu Max Mata
Offer AND accepted: Elliot Bennett – as said above player/coach role Mal Benning Jack Price - pay per play
Retain: George Nurse Morgan Feeney Jason Sraha Tunmise Sobowale Jordan Shipley Carl Winchester Taylor Perry Tom Bloxham
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Apr 26, 2024 7:34:16 GMT 1
Have to keep Udoh & Dunkley. Same Marosi.
Happy for Benning to have another year, rate him.
I’ll drive Bowman anywhere. Gutted but Bayliss doesn’t want to be here so bye. O’Brien….off the wage bill.
Bennett has been an amazing servant to the club on and off the pitch happy to see what PH decides.
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Post by darkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 7:48:55 GMT 1
My prediction is: Release: Harry Burgoyne Tom Flanagan Josh Bailey Declan Hutchings Nana Owusu Tom Bayliss Ryan Bowman Aiden O'Brien Aaron Pierre Offer BUT not accepted: Marko Marosi Chey Dunkley Daniel Udoh Sell: Roland Idowu Max Mata Offer AND accepted: Elliot Bennett – as said above player/coach role Mal Benning Jack Price - pay per play Retain: George Nurse Morgan Feeney Jason Sraha Tunmise Sobowale Jordan Shipley Carl Winchester Taylor Perry Tom Bloxham Not sure on Pierre - good servant, was infinitely better than I thought he would be when he came back, and cheap; but will Hurst find better out there ? Agree that may be the way for Jack Price - cannot see him getting a contract elsewhere until he has proven he can play again - pay per play would be a good deal for both parties I have a nasty feeling that the surprise will be Shipley being put up for sale - I hope not
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 26, 2024 8:29:00 GMT 1
Agree with everyone else. There’s always a ‘shock’ in the list. I think we’ll offer Bennett another year. His experience was obvious in our last few games. Hopefully Price too but I’m not sure that will happen sadly. Think his body has given up on him! Are Anderson & Perry on longer contracts? Pierre over Sraha for me too. Never thought I’d be saying that. Anderson is on loan from Sunderland but I think he may be out of contract on the end of the season.
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Post by MartinB on Apr 26, 2024 8:44:50 GMT 1
I am sure when Matt Taylor was still manager he said that Udoh had been offered a new contract but hadn't signed it yet. With Udoh's comments about wanting to stay he is pushing for more money but only a guess
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 26, 2024 9:09:07 GMT 1
Udoh can go. 10 goals from our so-called striker in 42 games is not a good return by any standard.
It's a very good return when you consider the style of football we play and we've only scored 34 goals in total
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 9:13:05 GMT 1
Think Hurst will look for new centre back..... Pierre and dunkley playing together,lacked pace,when I watched them,but who knows🤷🤷
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 26, 2024 9:23:52 GMT 1
As others have suggested, it's not just about the out of contract players, I wonder if the club (Hurst) will want to move on some of the under contact players too. It will be interesting to see how many of the signings from this season are part of the squad which kick off in August, my betting is not many
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Apr 26, 2024 9:27:04 GMT 1
I heard a rumour these have been started I've no idea who has been released but who would you let go ? These are all those out of contract Burgoyne Marosi Benning Bennett Flanaghan Obrien Bowman Udoh We have an option on these Bayliss Sraha Sobowale Dunkley I don't fully understand what happens when we have an option but I'm guessing we can extend the existing contract without any talks or tear that up and start a new offer at which point the player could walk away On that basis I would be releasing bayliss and triggering the other 3 with an option Obrien and bowman are gone for me Udoh probably offered a great deal and he needs to stay loyal and sign it , get pen to paper Dan Benning I was shocked to find he's out of contract , would offer and hope he signs a new one Flanagan and Bennett , both a no for different reasons And I'd be happy if both keepers stayed for another year , Harry as a cheap number 2 but flip of a coin there , and marosi , he's clearly been overpaid and that's not going to continue , might take some convincing there but worth a try to keep him at a lower wage , he's been great for us but I've seen better keepers in this division this season Don't disagree with a word of this. Remember Benning was a last minute stop gap after Nurse's injury, so was only ever going to be one year. After a ropey start he's been superb, definitely deserves another year.
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lynch
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Post by lynch on Apr 26, 2024 9:45:15 GMT 1
Pierre had a grade 4 groin tear (even Hurst hadn't heard of grade 4) and I've no idea how long that takes to recover and seen no updates from club? Still young at 31 but last few years has had injuries and he may get to point of looking after himself & calling it a day?
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 26, 2024 10:16:20 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 26, 2024 10:17:26 GMT 1
I thought he’d re-signed earlier in the year?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 26, 2024 10:23:35 GMT 1
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Post by blamber on Apr 26, 2024 10:29:12 GMT 1
For those out of contract or where there is a trigger clause, I'd definitely try to keep:
Marosi - even if he's paid a lot, he deserves it. Without him, we'd be playing in league two next season. Better keepers in this division will probably earn more Dunkley - he was off the pace in my view towards the end of the season but he's still a decent player at this level Udoh - says he wants to stay but he'll want more money. He does score goals so worth going the extra mile to get him signed up Bennett - worth another year. Consummate professional and is still good enough at this level even if he won't be playing 46 games. Also very versatile Benning - a real revelation. Will provide a good option down the left Sobowale - got to be worth another year. He's raw but with time and improvement he might turn out to be a very good signing. Has some much needed pace and trickery Shipley - hopefully, he's already under contract but if not he should stay. Good player at this level Burgoyne - definite number 2 but cheap and doesn't mind being second string
Release Bowman - time is up as it was this time last year Sraha - not shown enough for me and I think we can recruit better for his position Price - too injury prone and another older player (or pay per play but suspect he'll want more than that) Bayliss - too inconsistent and looks like he wants to be somewhere else Flanagan - good player but time to move on. Also too old O'Brien - just not up to it at this level Pierre - good player but now getting on. Injuries are happening more and more
Retained under contract Bloxham Nurse Feeney Winchester Idowu (don't know enough about him to say one way or another) Perry (but I'd try to move him on) Mata (try to move him on)
I don't know enough about the youth team players like Bailey, Hutchings etc but they won't be expensive so if there is a chink of potential then keep them.
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