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Post by davycrockett on Apr 26, 2024 11:25:33 GMT 1
A bit surprised Burgoyne being touted as no2 keeper when we’ve got Frankie Beckles who’s proved himself against men internationally (well didn’t let anyone down) surely we need to integrate him into the first team as No 2?
Harry’s only 27 but surely he’d be better somewhere he’d get regular games otherwise another season here could be the end of his career.
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Post by MetaShrew on Apr 26, 2024 11:25:43 GMT 1
We must at least make Benning an offer.
Would love to keep Marosi, but just can't see that happening whether because our offer is too low or a bigger club comes in for him.
No problem with Burgoyne staying as back-up, but the desire to be No. 1 somewhere may kick in at some point.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 26, 2024 11:46:46 GMT 1
Harry Burgoyne has been very patient and learned his trade under a very good keeper in Marosi but at his age he needs to be a first choice in League 2. Cant see him being first choice at town irrespective of whether or not Marosi stays. Good luck to him anyway. He is a good player to have round the place and if he does move on I think he will be missed. Bennett is another player who would be missed if not offered another contract. Would love to see him kept on in a player/coach role. If he decides to retire he would be a fantastic addition to the hospitality side of the club or the foundation with Jamie Edwards having moved on to a lesser football club.
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Post by barrynic on Apr 26, 2024 12:45:24 GMT 1
On and off the pitch Benno does well...would love to see him stay.....he has had a great end of season couple of games and steadies midfield.
My belief is that Bayliss is carrying an injury and is far from fully fit.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 15:48:55 GMT 1
Think bayliss has been carrying an injury for 2+ yrs!!......poor, I'll be shocked if Hurst wants to keep him
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 26, 2024 16:46:36 GMT 1
Id like to keep Marosi (but I expect wages will be an issue) I'm in a minority but I don't rate Burgoyne at all. Like to keep Bennet, benning, Bloxham, price, It is a bit unfair to rate Udoh on thegoalshe has scored as his service has been dismall but saying that his first touch is poor, his awareness of what is going on around him and a failure to anticipate all led to missed chances he played opposite a number of forwards and did not seem to link up well. All of which Hurst will need to coach him as to see if he canimprove , with a creative midfielder and better service I wpulike to see what he can do. Keep all the youth players
Is Idowu a town player or did he come on loan, if he is a loan player send him back a player who did very little and looked out of his depth if he is a town player send him out on loan
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 17:03:23 GMT 1
Think there's more improvement in udoh under Hurst... I'd up his wages if possible....then saves scratching around for other strikers(if there's any available) need at least another 2/3 tho
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 26, 2024 17:05:54 GMT 1
Listening to PH's pre match interview.
Sounds like it will be a very different squad come start of the new season.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 26, 2024 17:07:48 GMT 1
Id like to keep Marosi (but I expect wages will be an issue) I'm in a minority but I don't rate Burgoyne at all. Like to keep Bennet, benning, Bloxham, price, It is a bit unfair to rate Udoh on thegoalshe has scored as his service has been dismall but saying that his first touch is poor, his awareness of what is going on around him and a failure to anticipate all led to missed chances he played opposite a number of forwards and did not seem to link up well. All of which Hurst will need to coach him as to see if he canimprove , with a creative midfielder and better service I wpulike to see what he can do. Keep all the youth players Is Idowu a town player or did he come on loan, if he is a loan player send him back a player who did very little and looked out of his depth if he is a town player send him out on loan Idowu and Mata are both ours for another season.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 26, 2024 17:18:42 GMT 1
Think bayliss has been carrying an injury for 2+ yrs!!......poor, I'll be shocked if Hurst wants to keep him One thing that players will need to be come next season is fit to keep on playing and pressing for 120 mins if needs. Doubt Bayliss could do that, though he isnt alone in the current squad
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 17:47:23 GMT 1
Yep......you have been warned......whoever we sign,needs to enjoy there summer break,because at the end of June....the HARD work will start!!!👍
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 26, 2024 17:58:21 GMT 1
Marosi and Udoh deserve contract offers but will likely turn us down. Everyone else can leave out the exit door. You don't think Sraha or Sobowale deserve a contract offer? Sraha in particular has been fairly decent for such a young lad.
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Post by blamber on Apr 26, 2024 18:02:00 GMT 1
One thing I picked up in Hurst's pre match interview was a suggestion that his own future at Town is not a certainty. He said, "Again, there will be some situations we have to wait on, that's myself included".
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 26, 2024 18:03:23 GMT 1
One thing I picked up in Hurst's pre match interview was a suggestion that his own future at Town is not a certainty. He said, "Again, there will be some situations we have to wait on, that's myself included". Good spot, I missed that.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 26, 2024 18:04:09 GMT 1
Udoh can go. 10 goals from our so-called striker in 42 games is not a good return by any standard.
I'd keep Benning.
Bennett is a difficult one with his age, but he doesn't let us down very often and with a coaching role thrown in is IMO worth keeping.
I think that the players offered new or extended contracts will look at Hurst and think that he could deliver with a full transfer window and pre-season and that might give them the confidence to stay here
Bit unfair, he has had terrible service this season. Under MT he spent the whole game chasing long punt and trying to out muscle much bigger CB's. Udoh is not the player he was pre-injury but he has done very well since Hurst came in. Udoh said in his post match interview that he is a Shrewsbury fan and wants to stay but the ball is in the clubs court. He is the player we should be building the squad around as he could easily get 20 goals next season with decent service. I have really liked the look of him in a front two with Bloxham. They could be a real threat next season with a creative midfield behind them.
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Post by ipswichshrews on Apr 26, 2024 18:10:27 GMT 1
One thing I picked up in Hurst's pre match interview was a suggestion that his own future at Town is not a certainty. He said, "Again, there will be some situations we have to wait on, that's myself included". Good spot, I missed that. I heard that but I thought he was suggesting he would also have to wait on decisions by players who are offered a contract.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 18:48:23 GMT 1
Hurst has been offered pay per game👍👍
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Apr 26, 2024 19:14:20 GMT 1
Burgoyne - not overly fussed. He's fine as a no2 and it is helpful to have someone who is happy to play that role. Marosi - expect to be released. He will be on a big whack and think he could get a decent contract elsewhere so wouldn't stay on lesser terms. think they will look elsewhere for a first team keeper
Benning - give him a new contract. Will be on the sort of wages that are more realistic for next season. Has done very well, able to play a few different roles. Seems to like the club and is local. No brainer to offer new deal Bennett - has played more than expected. If he still has the legs and wants to hang around could see him staying for small wage. But may depend on what he wants to do. Has he said he wants to coach? Got a property business set up I think Flanagan - release. Don't think anybody expects him to stay O'Brien - release Bowman - release Tulloch - release Udoh - hope he stays. Up to him and the club to see if they can agree on wages Pierre - not sure he's a first team centre back to me. Could keep on short term deal if low cost Price - only retain if pay as you play or low wages. Not shown he's able to play regularly enough
Options:
Bayliss - release given expected wages. Sadly in his 2 years he's only very sporadicly on shown his ability Sraha - retain. The sort of player we should be signing. Played some games and shown some potential. Definitely keep Sobowale - retain. Might be older than Sraha but retain for same reasons Dunkley - this is hard. Probably on a lot, and think he's had a poor second half of the season. Id probably lean more towards release
Existing players Feeney, Shipley, Bloxham, Winchester, Nurse, Perry. Happy to keep them all as under contract and can see a role for them
Idowu - see what happens in pre season but probably look to loan out Mata - not sure what his loan deal as, as the Irish league runs until Oct/Nov. hasnt had a rest for a long time, but would like him to come back for pre season with Hurst and see what happens
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Post by Pilch on Apr 26, 2024 19:40:28 GMT 1
One thing I picked up in Hurst's pre match interview was a suggestion that his own future at Town is not a certainty. He said, "Again, there will be some situations we have to wait on, that's myself included". I would guess that was in case a new owner turns up out of the blue and wants their own man, cant see it happening though so hes pretty safe, especially as most fans are totally happy with the dip in form since Taylor left ;-)
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Post by Worthingshrew on Apr 26, 2024 20:25:45 GMT 1
Good spot, I missed that. I heard that but I thought he was suggesting he would also have to wait on decisions by players who are offered a contract. I don’t think it was ever confirmed how long his contract was for? Wouldn’t be surprised if it was only until end of season, depending on whether we got relegated or not.
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 26, 2024 21:58:18 GMT 1
Offer a good contract to Marosi and Udoh, extend Dunkley (but not overly worried if it doesn't happen), Offer something to Benning and possibly Burgoyne (but its a strange logic to want to stay/keep as a second choice).
The rest its probably time to say goodbye, mentions to Elliott Bennett in particular and Tom Flannigan (when he doesn't completely lose his head).
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 22:17:16 GMT 1
Think we need to keep udoh, he'll do better next season under Hurst..... otherwise it's buy cheap pay twice again,I fear
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 26, 2024 22:50:14 GMT 1
If I said Burgoyne is our #1 next season. What would you all say?
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 26, 2024 23:05:51 GMT 1
Please no!!🤦🤦
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 26, 2024 23:15:00 GMT 1
If I said Burgoyne is our #1 next season. What would you all say? Brian Jensen is the goalkeeping coach I think? - I think Burgoyne had some potential at Wolves, but as a lot have said, its just strange that he's sat on the bench these past seasons. Not actually seen him play, but from the sounds of things a good no.2
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Apr 27, 2024 9:54:57 GMT 1
If I said Burgoyne is our #1 next season. What would you all say? I don't see that being the plan, as you always want 2 keepers, and it would be odd to promote a 2nd keeper who has barely played straight to be first team keeper. But if they choose to retain Burgoyne, I could imagine the aim might be that him and another keeper (possibly on loan) compete to be first team keeper
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Post by chameleon on Apr 27, 2024 10:01:44 GMT 1
If I said Burgoyne is our #1 next season. What would you all say? I don't see that being the plan, as you always want 2 keepers, and it would be odd to promote a 2nd keeper who has barely played straight to be first team keeper. But if they choose to retain Burgoyne, I could imagine the aim might be that him and another keeper (possibly on loan) compete to be first team keeper Hursty might go for someone like Viljami Sinisalo on loan from Villa like he did with Henderson.
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Post by vladimir on Apr 27, 2024 10:28:21 GMT 1
A bit surprised Burgoyne being touted as no2 keeper when we’ve got Frankie Beckles who’s proved himself against men internationally (well didn’t let anyone down) surely we need to integrate him into the first team as No 2? Harry’s only 27 but surely he’d be better somewhere he’d get regular games otherwise another season here could be the end of his career. As much as I'd like to see Beckles stepping up, expecting him to be up to the rigours of English league football after one appearance against the US Virgin Islands might be too much of a step at this stage.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Apr 27, 2024 12:07:04 GMT 1
A bit surprised Burgoyne being touted as no2 keeper when we’ve got Frankie Beckles who’s proved himself against men internationally (well didn’t let anyone down) surely we need to integrate him into the first team as No 2? Harry’s only 27 but surely he’d be better somewhere he’d get regular games otherwise another season here could be the end of his career. As much as I'd like to see Beckles stepping up, expecting him to be up to the rigours of English league football after one appearance against the US Virgin Islands might be too much of a step at this stage. Yeah, they are two of the lowest ranked 'nations' in world football. It's decent Sunday league level. In the game Beckles played in, the player playing at highest level was at Eastleigh in the National League
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Apr 27, 2024 12:15:41 GMT 1
As much as I'd like to see Beckles stepping up, expecting him to be up to the rigours of English league football after one appearance against the US Virgin Islands might be too much of a step at this stage. Yeah, they are two of the lowest ranked 'nations' in world football. It's decent Sunday league level. In the game Beckles played in, the player playing at highest level was at Eastleigh in the National League I did laugh at Davy’s original post, playing international football doesn’t mean a fat lot when the standard is so low for some countries.
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