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Post by barrynic on Mar 13, 2024 18:57:24 GMT 1
Shipleys first tackle of the season is causing much debate.
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Post by philrouge on Mar 13, 2024 20:03:56 GMT 1
Well that was a waste of ten pounds. I switched off at 3-0, Bloody referee was on a mission even before the red card. Have we appealed ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 13, 2024 23:42:52 GMT 1
Well that was a waste of ten pounds. I switched off at 3-0, Bloody referee was on a mission even before the red card. Have we appealed ? Said we were going to appeal....
Two things, it could have been a waste of twenty odd quid had you been there. Second half, you missed our only attempt at a goal, and it came from AO'B. Struck me he could still become a name here - he could, just possibly, score the goal that keeps us up. We'll see.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 13, 2024 23:51:34 GMT 1
The sub 5000 crowd can be put down to: Port Vale was almost a home game for many travel wise. It was a foul night weather wise. Which would most choose, go out last night or spend the money next Saturday? Unlike a Saturday it was available on Ifollow for a tenner without having to set up any sort of "arrangement" to watch.
I wonder how many did watch on Ifollow?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 13, 2024 23:53:46 GMT 1
The sub 5000 crowd can be put down to: Port Vale was almost a home game for many travel wise. It was a foul night weather wise. Which would most choose, go out last night or spend the money next Saturday? Unlike a Saturday it was available on Ifollow for a tenner without having to set up any sort of "arrangement" to watch. I wonder how many did watch on Ifollow? I wonder how many watched the whole 90 mins.....
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 0:08:41 GMT 1
Well that was a waste of ten pounds. I switched off at 3-0, Bloody referee was on a mission even before the red card. Have we appealed ? Said we were going to appeal....
Two things, it could have been a waste of twenty odd quid had you been there. Second half, you missed our only attempt at a goal, and it came from AO'B. Struck me he could still become a name here - he could, just possibly, score the goal that keeps us up. We'll see.
Exeter all went on a lads night out at half time , we came out with a 4-2-0 formation
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 14, 2024 0:17:17 GMT 1
Said we were going to appeal....
Two things, it could have been a waste of twenty odd quid had you been there. Second half, you missed our only attempt at a goal, and it came from AO'B. Struck me he could still become a name here - he could, just possibly, score the goal that keeps us up. We'll see.
Exeter all went on a lads night out at half time , we came out with a 4-2-0 formation The first few minutes were quite promising, it was always going to be asking a lot for a team who played Saturday to go down to ten men so early.
Bowman must be injured or ill? No matter how he's thought of by Hurst it's surely a reasonable idea to have an ex Exeter guy to bring on?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 0:24:47 GMT 1
Exeter all went on a lads night out at half time , we came out with a 4-2-0 formation The first few minutes were quite promising, it was always going to be asking a lot for a team who played Saturday to go down to ten men so early.
Bowman must be injured or ill? No matter how he's thought of by Hurst it's surely a reasonable idea to have an ex Exeter guy to bring on?
Bowman either ill or naughty step I'd say, missed one ex club this week and anther up next , hope hes back to be honest
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 14, 2024 0:27:24 GMT 1
The first few minutes were quite promising, it was always going to be asking a lot for a team who played Saturday to go down to ten men so early.
Bowman must be injured or ill? No matter how he's thought of by Hurst it's surely a reasonable idea to have an ex Exeter guy to bring on?
Bowman either ill or naughty step I'd say, missed one ex club this week and anther up next , hope hes back to be honest Caught whatever Udoh had the other week?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 14, 2024 10:56:53 GMT 1
Shrewsbury Town are not Bournemouth, Exeter City are not Luton, but I'd want our players to watch a video of last night's game between the two and see how it can be done, though first learning point is keep 11 players on if you can.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 14, 2024 13:56:50 GMT 1
The sub-5000 crowd and complete lack of any atmosphere gave the impression from the off that no-one could really be arsed with this one after Vale, and unfortunately that couldn't have been more accurate. One of those irritating refs who due to not having the ability to stick the ball in the net finds another way of making himself the star of the show. The signs were there when he gave Sraha a yellow a minute or two before the red, which like Shipley's red was probably technically justifiable but completely unnecessary. Game was realistically over at that point, frustratingly Exeter looked pretty limited until their first and I think we'd have had enough to beat them 11 vs 11, but it was all redundant after the red. Credit to Bayliss who started really well and kept battling after the red and looked like the only player who might be able to get us back into it. Probably a worse decision than the red was him getting cleaned out in plain sight and therefore unable to join an already undermanned attack, allowing them to break and kill the game. Didn't deserve to be booked for having the nerve to point out that was a mistake. Probably harsh to single out someone who's part of a ten man team we basically threw second half to concentrate on Saturday, but Idowu looked like a competition winner even by this year's standards. These Irish signings could soon be making up three spots in the worst signings list. Speaking of which, O'Brien looked ok. I'd start him on Saturday in the hope we can get at least one moment to remember from him. Those Irish signings alone should be the reason why MM and Ware should no longer be at the Club after the end of the season. But there are other failures - such as the loan signings, with Anderson and Kenneh not even in the squad last night. Unbelievably, MM has given Mata and Idowu contracts until 2025/26! Which is another reason why he should go.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 14, 2024 14:02:14 GMT 1
This season has been a disaster all the way through......is it worth carrying on with Mickey Moore??...... absolutely not.... Scrap the DOF...don't need one.....the secretary can do all the paperwork....like Mal Starkey did all those years ago......simple as🤷🤷🤷
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 14, 2024 14:31:30 GMT 1
I actually stuck around in the second half because I thought that Hurst could have masterminded a second half comeback, I was very wrong.
I'd have Bowman on the bench for Saturday, probably Kennah and Sobowale as well, a bit of bite and pace.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 14:42:24 GMT 1
This season has been a disaster all the way through......is it worth carrying on with Mickey Moore??...... absolutely not.... Scrap the DOF...don't need one.....the secretary can do all the paperwork....like Mal Starkey did all those years ago......simple as🤷🤷🤷 everyone involved in the club this season is paying the price for 2 losers who the p**s out of our club and used it for their own benefit, including the fans, anyone who tries to cover up for those responsible is just equally taking the p**s, thats all
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 14, 2024 14:48:02 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 14:59:21 GMT 1
Me and my shadow 😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
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Post by blamber on Mar 14, 2024 15:36:03 GMT 1
This season has been a disaster all the way through......is it worth carrying on with Mickey Moore??...... absolutely not.... Scrap the DOF...don't need one.....the secretary can do all the paperwork....like Mal Starkey did all those years ago......simple as🤷🤷🤷 everyone involved in the club this season is paying the price for 2 losers who the p**s out of our club and used it for their own benefit, including the fans, anyone who tries to cover up for those responsible is just equally taking the p**s, that's all I think I'm pretty much brainwashed into believing this now, given how many times you've told us, despite that whiff of scepticism I have when someone protests just a little too much. Anyway, that aside, the sheer wastefulness of loan players and the more than questionable due diligence carried out on our Irish recruits, can't just be waved away and blamed on the previous regime. The recruits this season lie squarely at the door of the current regime. I think Chirk has a point.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 15:55:39 GMT 1
everyone involved in the club this season is paying the price for 2 losers who the p**s out of our club and used it for their own benefit, including the fans, anyone who tries to cover up for those responsible is just equally taking the p**s, that's all I think I'm pretty much brainwashed into believing this now, given how many times you've told us, despite that whiff of scepticism I have when someone protests just a little too much. Anyway, that aside, the sheer wastefulness of loan players and the more than questionable due diligence carried out on our Irish recruits, can't just be waved away and blamed on the previous regime. The recruits this season lie squarely at the door of the current regime. I think Chirk has a point. Exactly. Just a reminder that last summer saw a new direction of the club.......Taylor lasted till January, our new star striker is out on loan, none of the 6 original loans are playing and most of the other permanent signings are fringe players at best, therefore it doesn't seem unreasonable to question the recruitment made this season. I personally don't see this as being in denial and/or covering up for the events of last season, just questioning the choices made this season.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 14, 2024 16:01:00 GMT 1
Seems every excuse is taken to call for MM's head. Give the guy a chance, we don't really know his remit, we don't really know his budget. As for players like Meta, seems to be doing ok back in Ireland, if we saw him again, would we still sign him up as a prospect based on what he's doing? One or two "finds" by those responsible either from other clubs or our academy and they could cover their wages easily.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 16:03:11 GMT 1
everyone involved in the club this season is paying the price for 2 losers who the p**s out of our club and used it for their own benefit, including the fans, anyone who tries to cover up for those responsible is just equally taking the p**s, that's all I think I'm pretty much brainwashed into believing this now, given how many times you've told us, despite that whiff of scepticism I have when someone protests just a little too much. Anyway, that aside, the sheer wastefulness of loan players and the more than questionable due diligence carried out on our Irish recruits, can't just be waved away and blamed on the previous regime. The recruits this season lie squarely at the door of the current regime. I think Chirk has a point. once again, the problems at STFC did not start in July 2023, but for the chairman having to bail us out each month ( going back to at least last January ), there might not have been a "this season" and then who would you blame ? I just accept this season was always going to be a major struggle, survival was the ultimate goal, and we are just about on target for that, im looking forward to Saturday now, funny how we only bring MM into the debate after a defeat , we are the shrewsbury, we cry when we lose
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 16:05:49 GMT 1
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 16:07:47 GMT 1
once again, the problems at STFC did not start in July 2023, but for the chairman having to bail us out each month ( going back to at least last January ), there might not have been a "this season" and then who would you blame ? The chairman, the CEO and the manager
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 16:10:45 GMT 1
we have the 5th lowest budget in the league, the fact its the same as last season says a lot, and lets not forget, most of it was already spent before MM arrived, not really sure what your point is, apart from a lame MM bash, concentrate on saturday like me,
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 14, 2024 16:12:01 GMT 1
Well, it's still far too soon to dismiss the new structure. If I went on the political forum and said Brexit was a disaster, even after all these years people would say "Give it time". So I say here, "Give it time.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 16:18:22 GMT 1
we have the 5th lowest budget in the league, the fact its the same as last season says a lot, and lets not forget, most of it was already spent before MM arrived, not really sure what your point is, apart from a lame MM bash, concentrate on saturday like me, My point is the same as every time I've posted the "same as last season" quote from Moore. People say the budget was slashed and Moore has had to make do with scraps, yet our DoF has said the budget is the same as what it was last year. As I've explained repeatedly, in real terms thats a slight reduction but it's nothing like the reduction some people are claiming it is And if we are completely skint and most of the budget has been spent, the fact we spent money on Mata, Sobowale and Iodwu (in December) really does not show Moore in a good light.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 16:20:23 GMT 1
Well, it's still far too soon to dismiss the new structure. If I went on the political forum and said Brexit was a disaster, even after all these years people would say "Give it time". So I say here, "Give it time. I'm not dismissing the new structure. You've said that all sorts of excuses are being used to jsutify getting rid of Moore, I'm just pointing out that in his own words he is primarily responsible for recruiting players and hiring head coaches, and therefore based on what we've seen so far it's no wonder people are questioning whether he's the right man
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 16:26:02 GMT 1
we have the 5th lowest budget in the league, the fact its the same as last season says a lot, and lets not forget, most of it was already spent before MM arrived, not really sure what your point is, apart from a lame MM bash, concentrate on saturday like me, My point is the same as every time I've posted the "same as last season" quote from Moore. People say the budget was slashed and Moore has had to make do with scraps, yet our DoF has said the budget is the same as what it was last year. As I've explained repeatedly, in real terms thats a slight reduction but it's nothing like the reduction some people are claiming it is And if we are completely skint and most of the budget has been spent, the fact we spent money on Mata, Sobowale and Iodwu (in December) really does not show Moore in a good light. where has anyone said the budget was slashed ? its bad enough when most of us get a pay rise only for it to be known as a 'real term pay cut' you can hide behind same budget as much as you like but you wont be able to buy as much with it as last season, im sure you know that really
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Post by blamber on Mar 14, 2024 16:32:36 GMT 1
I think I'm pretty much brainwashed into believing this now, given how many times you've told us, despite that whiff of scepticism I have when someone protests just a little too much. Anyway, that aside, the sheer wastefulness of loan players and the more than questionable due diligence carried out on our Irish recruits, can't just be waved away and blamed on the previous regime. The recruits this season lie squarely at the door of the current regime. I think Chirk has a point. once again, the problems at STFC did not start in July 2023, but for the chairman having to bail us out each month ( going back to at least last January ), there might not have been a "this season" and then who would you blame ? I just accept this season was always going to be a major struggle, survival was the ultimate goal, and we are just about on target for that, im looking forward to Saturday now, funny how we only bring MM into the debate after a defeat , we are the shrewsbury, we cry when we lose I also said that this season was going to be a struggle. Like most of us. The Chairman also cited lack of funds from the Premier league - perhaps a bigger reason why he's had a bale us out. Win, lose or draw won't alter my opinion that the current regime have made a hash of a lot of what they've touched. Hopefully with a re-set of our management team and a more pragmatic head coach we can do a lot better. Looking forward to Saturday too and confident of a Town win.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 14, 2024 16:48:18 GMT 1
where has anyone said the budget was slashed ? its bad enough when most of us get a pay rise only for it to be known as a 'real term pay cut' you can hide behind same budget as much as you like but you wont be able to buy as much with it as last season, im sure you know that really We are going round in circles here My view is Moore's spending power has been impacted because of the events of last season but not to the extent some would suggest. Whilst his budget is a real terms cut I believe he has wasted the money he has had available and recruited poorly, both in terms of coaches & players. I'm not suggesting that we get rid of him or the DoF structure but I can understand why fans would question both. I also believe Roland is likely to end this experiment and we will go back to the status quo from next season. You are of course free to disagree with any of this
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2024 17:55:17 GMT 1
where has anyone said the budget was slashed ? its bad enough when most of us get a pay rise only for it to be known as a 'real term pay cut' you can hide behind same budget as much as you like but you wont be able to buy as much with it as last season, im sure you know that really We are going round in circles here My view is Moore's spending power has been impacted because of the events of last season but not to the extent some would suggest. Whilst his budget is a real terms cut I believe he has wasted the money he has had available and recruited poorly, both in terms of coaches & players. I'm not suggesting that we get rid of him or the DoF structure but I can understand why fans would question both. I also believe Roland is likely to end this experiment and we will go back to the status quo from next season. You are of course free to disagree with any of this the guy hasn't even had 1 season yet in what is a long term strategy for the long term future of the club , has been forced to shop in the bargain basement , the only ones moaning, have moaned from day 1
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