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Post by mrcricket on Mar 2, 2024 18:57:07 GMT 1
I thought feeney and Benning were our best players today , feeney made some good tackles to win the ball second half , his passing lets him down a bit but he's not on his own He needs to stick to what he’s good at. He’s good in the air and he can tackle. I don’t know why he’s always trying to clip long balls into the channels. He simply can’t do it. Probably because there are a lack of players showing for the ball. The signs of an unconfident team. Wasn't there today but that's what I've seen a lot this season.
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Post by Scarecrow on Mar 2, 2024 19:04:23 GMT 1
When the season is done I volunteer to drive Feeney all the way back up to Carlisle if they want him back, I’ll even cover the petrol money.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 2, 2024 19:06:51 GMT 1
But I’m sorry I thought when the new appointment was made all would be well. Instead it’s the same old, same old. Yes the recruitment looks bad but it seems managers take the responsibility and this should be no different. Hopefully things wil pick up sooner rather than later and we will return to our proper place of 17th. Except this managers inherited a team chosen for Taylor by Moore shopping in the bargain basement.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 2, 2024 19:15:40 GMT 1
I hesitate to ask but do we actually know if the manager will be here next season if the worst happens? His contract may be to keep us up The chairman may want another change He may just go He may not want to be in league 2 The calibre of loanees may not be so high If Hurst chose to leave he would be stupid. Nobody else will take a chance on him in the football league with his recent record.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 2, 2024 19:21:38 GMT 1
Don’t understand how people can blame Hurst. He’s trying to cobble together a team with an absolutely dreadful squad. isn't that what he was brought in to do ? so far he's taken us closer to relegation than the previous guy did I'm not blaming him by the way , just pointing out holes in your opinion 😉 Get where you are coming from and personally I think over the games that Hurst and Doig have this season they give the club a better chance of league 1 survival this season. Yes as mentioned there are core players from Cotterill last season however it is about the sum of the parts and that is the difference this season, the additions with the exception of Mal Benning are clearly not to League I standard. Roland wanted it cheaper, the club needed it cheaper we are told but M Moore has not been able to deliver on that front. i am still hopeful Hurst and Doig can pull this off, before I felt we were heading for certain relegation.
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Post by vladimir on Mar 2, 2024 19:23:02 GMT 1
All about next week and the 3 games. Good full week of prep, two of them at home, the midweek against a team having to travel hundreds of miles, the away a local game with good away support.
Season defining week and I'm certainly delighted we have Hurst at the helm rather than the former head coach.
If we can't get 5/6 points from that we deserve to go down.
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Post by Beefy on Mar 2, 2024 19:23:09 GMT 1
Hurst now on worse points per game than Taylor and has had minimal injuries . People forget the injury crisis Taylor had
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Post by londonshrew75 on Mar 2, 2024 19:27:35 GMT 1
Here we go again. All doom and gloom. Lincoln are unbeaten in ten and Blackpool are decent. A long way to go yet. Five games left then you really start to scratch your head. Cheltenham won't beat Charlton Tuesday and as long as we don't get beat at Vale we should be OK...? Need Marossi back in goal and a sharper Udoh for next week. I'd play him with O'brien and see how it goes.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 2, 2024 19:29:42 GMT 1
Hurst now on worse points per game than Taylor and has had minimal injuries . People forget the injury crisis Taylor had I would wager that will not be the case come the end of the season, hopefully we will have enough to stay up….
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Post by Worthingshrew on Mar 2, 2024 19:31:34 GMT 1
Granted they’re not Hurst’s players, but every new manager has to deal with what he inherits. At moment, Hurst is getting less out of them, than Taylor, in terms of points per game. Not much in it yet, but need 11 points from last 10 games I reckon. If he can’t do that, shouldn’t be here next season.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 2, 2024 19:38:57 GMT 1
The players aren't good enough... I said it months ago....that's why Hurst wanted at least 4 players in....pity he never got them!!!!🤷🤷 Hang on, what's this about Hurst wanting 4 players in? Every manager/coach in the land, including Taylor, could give you 4 player's names they would have liked to sign. Doesn't mean to say they would have made us any better or that they would have wanted to join our unhappy band.
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 2, 2024 19:45:28 GMT 1
I think the recruitment this season has been very poor, and that combined with injuries accounts for our lamentable position in the table
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 2, 2024 19:55:08 GMT 1
Port Vale is a massive game now. Win and it cuts them off lose and it let's them and possibly Cheltenham back in. Draw and it just prolongs the s**tshow
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 2, 2024 19:55:39 GMT 1
isn't that what he was brought in to do ? so far he's taken us closer to relegation than the previous guy did I'm not blaming him by the way , just pointing out holes in your opinion 😉 Get where you are coming from and personally I think over the games that Hurst and Doig have this season they give the club a better chance of league 1 survival this season. Yes as mentioned there are core players from Cotterill last season however it is about the sum of the parts and that is the difference this season, the additions with the exception of Mal Benning are clearly not to League I standard. Roland wanted it cheaper, the club needed it cheaper we are told but M Moore has not been able to deliver on that front. i am still hopeful Hurst and Doig can pull this off, before I felt we were heading for certain relegation. The prudent financial strategy that Shrewsbury Town normally employ went out of the window, the brakes were put on and now we have Cotterill's big ticket signings, including O'Brien, and budget signings, it's going to take until the end of some contracts to get back on an even keel. It would definitely not be our way, but some clubs would have gambled the family silver and continued to spend, hoping for the play offs this season - it might have worked too.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 2, 2024 20:00:18 GMT 1
Just follow the light I say 🔦
is it a football club you want to support or just to win at any cost ?
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 2, 2024 20:12:14 GMT 1
But I’m sorry I thought when the new appointment was made all would be well. Instead it’s the same old, same old. Yes the recruitment looks bad but it seems managers take the responsibility and this should be no different. Hopefully things wil pick up sooner rather than later and we will return to our proper place of 17th. Except this managers inherited a team chosen for Taylor by Moore shopping in the bargain basement. In which case this ‘messiah’ could certainly do with some miracles!
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 2, 2024 20:27:10 GMT 1
Udoh looked every inch a player just hoping to cruise through to the end of his contract injury free so he can weigh up his options - I was so disappointed at how lazy he looked. How many times was their keeper just able to stand on the ball about 10 or 20 yards outside his box because he wasn't closed down? Just before the hour Bloxham was chasing their left back down near the corner flag...it could not have been more obvious he was going to try and go back to the keeper so surely as a centre forward you're busting a gut to charge him down early and try and nick a goal or at least force a mistake for a corner or an attacking throw? Udoh didn't even manage to amble his way into the penalty area.
Beyond that, same as all the other games I've seen this season really. We desperately lack any sort quality or invention. So pedestrian and predictable. So boring to watch.
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Post by lancsman on Mar 2, 2024 20:54:48 GMT 1
The thing thatmade my blood boil was the way we gave the ball away, and very often it wasn’t as if our player was under pressure. In simple terms some of our players do not have the quality to pass the ball to one of our own. End of.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 2, 2024 21:12:28 GMT 1
It's not often that I see us lose home and away in the same season to the same opposition, but sadly today was one of those days. An aggregate of Town 0 Blackpool 6 over the 2 games meant that I wasn't a happy bunny going home. Not helped by the fact that half way home there was a detour due to a road closure!
Two games, two different managers but, to be honest you wouldn't have noticed who was in charge because what we served up today, may not have been as bad as our no show at the seaside but there wasn't a lot in it, especially as we reverted back to the dreaded 532.
OK, I admit that Blackpool are a decent side, but our attempts at trying to take the game to them, to create meaningful chances was sadly lacking, not helped by the most lacklustre performance I've seen from Dan Udoh in a long while.
I thought that I would have seen a really positive response after Tuesday's defeat but there wasn't the spark expected. Too many of the players on the pitch this afternoon just didn't perform to any sort of level expected of them as league one footballers. They can't even master the basics of retaining possession and passing to their own team mates. Sad to say that some of them just don't deserve to wear a Town shirt.
What a mess and no new manager bounce either.
We are relegation candidates on this showing.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Mar 2, 2024 21:12:44 GMT 1
All the cameos ive seen of Aidan Obrien in not sure why he’s not getting more minutes.
To me he looks motivated when on the pitch and we know he has quality he just needs to back on it.
We really need consistency from Shipley & Bayliss our main attacking threats. For 2 years now they’ve both blown hot and cold, we need them to put a string of positive performance in.
Thought Benning did well, everyone else was below par today.
We are crying out for Tom Flanagans return too, Feeney has been rubbish
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 2, 2024 21:22:31 GMT 1
Sad to say that some of them just don't deserve to wear a Town shirt. I was reflecting on this on the way home. Can't pretend to have seen us that often this season (five league home games and the Colchester Cup game) but on the evidence I've seen I'm really not sure how many of them would be a regular starter elsewhere at our level.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 2, 2024 21:41:49 GMT 1
All the cameos ive seen of Aidan Obrien in not sure why he’s not getting more minutes. To me he looks motivated when on the pitch and we know he has quality he just needs to back on it. We really need consistency from Shipley & Bayliss our main attacking threats. For 2 years now they’ve both blown hot and cold, we need them to put a string of positive performance in. Thought Benning did well, everyone else was below par today. We are crying out for Tom Flanagans return too, Feeney has been rubbish Well O’Brien is on his third manager here now and none of them have thought that much of him for a reason whatever it maybe.
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 2, 2024 22:18:34 GMT 1
Get where you are coming from and personally I think over the games that Hurst and Doig have this season they give the club a better chance of league 1 survival this season. Yes as mentioned there are core players from Cotterill last season however it is about the sum of the parts and that is the difference this season, the additions with the exception of Mal Benning are clearly not to League I standard. Roland wanted it cheaper, the club needed it cheaper we are told but M Moore has not been able to deliver on that front. i am still hopeful Hurst and Doig can pull this off, before I felt we were heading for certain relegation. The prudent financial strategy that Shrewsbury Town normally employ went out of the window, the brakes were put on and now we have Cotterill's big ticket signings, including O'Brien, and budget signings, it's going to take until the end of some contracts to get back on an even keel. It would definitely not be our way, but some clubs would have gambled the family silver and continued to spend, hoping for the play offs this season - it might have worked too. I understand the point you are making and the accounts when they come out may well support your position but my goodness we have also wasted some money this season and got very little for it
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Post by gobowenshrew on Mar 2, 2024 22:30:42 GMT 1
Hurst's approach all of a sudden seems to be chuck everything at the wall and see what sticks.
Clearly didn't fancy Kenneh when he came in. Chucked him in the side Tuesday and hauled him off at half time before leaving him out completely today. Presume the same will happen with Sobowale after another ineffective performance. Another one not fancied by the manager.
Three changes of formation today including a hellish reboot of Matt Taylor's ill-fated October/November era 5-3-2 formation.
Suddenly the formation and team that picked itself little over 2/3 weeks ago is up in the air. Not one single player is in form and in the space of the week it feels like our season has just nosedived.
Glad someone has called out Dan Udoh for not looking like his heart is in it. I think he's had a free pass most of the season for being way off it, protected by the "he gets no service" argument.
Honestly can't think of one redeeming feature from our performance today. Like Wigan where we at least had the effort element of the performance, we have no answers when we come up against a well organised side like Blackpool were today.
As said above, the next three games are absolutely huge. A defeat against Port Vale with their game in hand still to play makes that game a literal six pointer.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Mar 2, 2024 22:31:08 GMT 1
Also does anyone know what happened with Bizzy today?
Looked to me like he was ejected at half time.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 2, 2024 22:52:19 GMT 1
After watching in delight as we played Northampton off the pitch at Sixfields (which now seems a long time ago) I simply cannot fathom why we have been so poor in our home games under Hurst and today was the poorest performance of the four. At least against Wigan we forced some corners at the end and looked like scoring a goal. Today even our decent players looked like they did not believe they could get anything from the game. We know the recruitment has generally been poor but several of the core players left from SC (and who have put in good performances in the Championship for previous clubs) were well under par today. We cannot rely on away games to collect enough points to stay up - the players just have to step up to the plate and show some quality, attacking intent and fight at home in the games we have left.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 3, 2024 0:27:20 GMT 1
Good god that was dire. Throughout the game I was at a complete loss to what the system was, looked like a normal back four, but then also with Sobowale as a wingback, Bloxham and Shipley playing unspecified positions and the players seemed almost as clueless as I did.
Enthusiasm has completely dissipated after that, but let’s hope the free week resets us because we can’t afford to be so lacklustre next week. Hugely concerning and regressive performance that as others have said wouldn’t have looked out of place under Taylor.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 3, 2024 1:41:52 GMT 1
I didn't expect anything from the Blackpool game,and I was right.infact I think we maybe better away from home....don't know what to expect from the vale game.but it's a game we really can't afford to lose....we will see
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 3, 2024 3:57:19 GMT 1
Marosi and Pierre big losses?
Flanagan's return is needed.
I'd expect to see Feeney at right back for the rest of the season. There isn't anyone else In the squad bar Winchester (who's needed for the midfield)
And Bennetts legs have probably gone.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 3, 2024 8:32:10 GMT 1
Was definitely as bad as anything we saw under Taylor. They looked very comfortable on the ball, as soon as we had it it was lots of aimless hoofs. Its amazing how few of our players actually look comfortable in possession of the ball.
Feeney comes in for some stick but he's playing out of position. I remember when Pennington was played at right back and he was awful.
Someone mentioned Udoh and he was the most worrying thing for me. We rely on him so much but he looked disinterested
After Tuesday we all hoped for a reaction but didn't get one. Very worrying times
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