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Post by vladimir on Jan 7, 2024 20:30:40 GMT 1
your lot are not that good at all We werenโt that good today and yet still beat a side from the next league up. Isnโt that the sign of a good side? Resilience. Neither keeper made a save of any note, which suggests both sets of defenders had the better of their opponents. I thought 1-1 before the game and that would have been the fairest score line. Honest question doc, with the resources at your disposal do you really like and enjoy Phil parkinson 'footballing' sides. He's always been an odious agricultural duffer.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 7, 2024 20:31:48 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful. An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection. At half time I was sat there quietly confident, and thinking how poor Wrexham had been Sadly, our standards dropped massively from 60th minute, Wrexham dictated more and more of the ball, I felt a goal was coming, but it did take a lucky deflection to get it They are very route 1, long balls down the channels to win the throw ins for the long throw. Direct set pieces. What Iโd say is they must be good at what they do, agricultural football. Our attempts at it are painful, aimless hoofs forward time and time again
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:32:16 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful. An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection. And your lads are on peanuts? In comparison, yes.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jan 7, 2024 20:32:39 GMT 1
Think there are a lot of Salop tinted glasses in the post match comments here.
You can see why Wrexham are where they are - they came to win and control the game and they did second half.
Anyone who thought this was a good performance by Shrewsbury have low expectations, lower division club at home and we didnโt score.
Change the style of play, 4 at the back. Attack.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 7, 2024 20:32:54 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then?ย You boys missed a couple of open goals.ย They were presented to you on a plate .ย You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile!ย ย Lucky you. Then tomorrow you wake up in that dump.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 20:37:01 GMT 1
We werenโt that good today and yet still beat a side from the next league up. Isnโt that the sign of a good side? Resilience. Neither keeper made a save of any note, which suggests both sets of defenders had the better of their opponents. I thought 1-1 before the game and that would have been the fairest score line. Honest question doc, with the resources at your disposal do you really like and enjoy Phil parkinson 'footballing' sides. He's always been an odious agricultural duffer. Weโve won 60 out of 75 homes games under Parkinson in all competitions, scoring about 200 goals in the process. Absolutely love his style of football at home. Itโs entertaining bordering on reckless at times. I donโt know why, but we lack adventure away from home. Players like Lee and Mullin are hardworking but largely ineffective away, but creative and effective at the Racecourse. On the whole, I love what Parkinson has done and heโs definitely very good at motivating players to keep working hard even when theyโre playing badly
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:37:08 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then?ย You boys missed a couple of open goals.ย They were presented to you on a plate .ย You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile!ย ย Plenty of imaginary golf clubs in your end, you didn't swing them well before the weekend? 1-0 town.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 20:41:03 GMT 1
Give some respect to Wrexham, they beat a league one side, and were much better in the second half, I suspect Parkinson's experience is a big factor.
The Thrown in by the defender Tozer were also interesting, could have caused all sorts of difficulty at times.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 20:49:45 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then?ย You boys missed a couple of open goals.ย They were presented to you on a plate .ย You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile!ย ย Plenty of imaginary golf clubs in your end, you didn't swing them well before the weekend? 1-0 town. Heard about this. The arrangement was 40 vs 40, no weapons. 60 or 70 EBF turned up with golf clubs and bricks. ๐๐๐
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:54:20 GMT 1
Plenty of imaginary golf clubs in your end, you didn't swing them well before the weekend? 1-0 town. Heard about this. The arrangement was 40 vs 40, no weapons. 60 or 70 EBF turned up with golf clubs and bricks. ๐๐๐ Incorrect.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 7, 2024 21:01:28 GMT 1
I think we should ban all Wrexham fans on this board. Just because.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 7, 2024 21:02:31 GMT 1
Plenty of imaginary golf clubs in your end, you didn't swing them well before the weekend? 1-0 town. Heard about this. The arrangement was 40 vs 40, no weapons. 60 or 70 EBF turned up with golf clubs and bricks. ๐๐๐ The video doing the rounds shows you're talking b******s.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 21:03:56 GMT 1
Not remotely interested but thatโs what I was told today by someone who obviously thinks I give a toss. Pleased for you though, if the Shrewsbury lads gave the Wrexham lads a good hiding โoff the pitchโ. You must be chuffed. Couldnโt care less who wins that one tbh, happy if they all get a good kicking.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 21:05:22 GMT 1
Heard about this. The arrangement was 40 vs 40, no weapons. 60 or 70 EBF turned up with golf clubs and bricks. ๐๐๐ The video doing the rounds shows you're talking b******s. Does it? OK, Iโll take your word for it.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 7, 2024 21:19:24 GMT 1
My 2 pennies worth.
Marosi was solid. He did really well. And he didn't kick the ball straight out once!!
Feeney. Defensively he was good. But 5 times he lumped the ball straight over everyones heads. 4 times straight out for a goalkick, and once to the keeper. We dont have willing runners for such a ball! Yet he kept playing it as if Sobowale should be running for it.
Dunkley was amazing. Won absolutely everything. Kept Mullin quiet. Loved his little turn under pressure. MOTM by a mile.
Anderson did well, some good interceptions. Bennett, Perry and Shipley had good games.
Benning I thought was really good. He ran and ran and ran. Him and Kenneh putting hard tackles in everywhere. And of course, he curled that amazing left-foot effort that hit the crossbar.
Kenneh was brilliant at breaking up the play, but many stray passes accompanied it.
Bowman threw himself around a bit with no real joy. He looked pretty knackered in the 2nd half. Mata came on for him, he did a decent job.
Sobowale and the new guy look full of pace. Need to learn how to exploit it better.
I am gutted. I thought we had no chance, and Wrexham would easily beat us. But for us to be the better side, have 3 or 4 clear-cut chances, and for them to score with their only chance...hard to take.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jan 7, 2024 21:42:27 GMT 1
Just home, after 12 hours on the road. Writing this before I browse this thread so some of this may be a repeat of what's written above. I've come away from that with very mixed emotions. On the one hand the way, in the first half at least, we used a high press was very effective, and limited Wrexham to rushed passes and kept the momentum away from them, despite the posession stats. I thought that 45 mins was as effective as I've see us this season. BUT, in front of goal we've been noting short of disgraceful. Sobowale and Perry's first in stoppage time are both so bad they're embarrassing. Score those and it's game over, and make no mistake we should have. So, massively annoyed for that, both are inexcusable.
As for the rest of the game, the momemtum shifted like someone had flicked a switch after about 65 mins. Bayliss looked a million miles off the pace when he came on, totally rusty, but Odowu looked enterprising and one to keep an eye on, and Dunkley was an absolute mountain. Bennett has the technique of someone who's played at a higher level, and it's an absolute joy to see someone with his ability and passion still turning out, and giving absolutely everything every week when he clearly doesn't have to. Many in the team could learn a lot from him. Otherwise, Wrexham were (and this is not petty rivalry taking over, it's my honest opinion) nothing but a decent League two team, and today highlighted the obvious difference in quality between the two leagues. By any objective measure they were fortunate to win, but goodness me, we stink the place out when it comes to scoring goals, and today it's become even more annoying than it has thus far, put simply that game should have been out of sight by half time.
Still, Sobowale, Shipley, plus one, works well, and seeing Sobowale with the freedom and confidence to take players on was an absolute joy to see, it's been a long time since I've seen anyone being given the freedom to be expresive like that and long may it continue. As for Bowman and Mata though! Bowman is awful in the air, he just seems to float there, never getting anywhere near it. Neither has he got the pace to run in behind, nor the skill to drop deep to collect the ball, and he doesn't score goals. I'll stop short of direct criticism, as I do genuinely feel he gives 100%, but sadly he's just a league two striker (at best). Mata, on the other hand!! I'd happily see him never play again. Did absolutely nothing when he came on, literally, including leaving on enterprising ball run out right at the end. Really, really, ridiculously poor.
Anyway, I'm taking the formation changes and the intense high press away from this, and hope we can turn that into three points on Saturday, and maybe sneak something at Posh and certainly Northampton. And after 12 hours on the road, I'm grabbing a cold one and trying to unwind myself from our ineptitude in front of goal, which if I'm not careful will leave me p**sed off all week and I need to sort my tickets for Peterborough and Northampton :-)
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Post by MartinB on Jan 7, 2024 21:53:21 GMT 1
Thing that disappointed me most about today was it was very clear how much Sobowale's miss affected him. None of the senior players went to him to encourage him and tell him to keep his head up.
Think BBC website first line saying opponents rode their luck is very accurate. They certainly made the most of their luck with the deflection and how Mullin wasn't cautioned let alone sent off for his awful challenge on Marosi I will never know.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 7, 2024 21:55:13 GMT 1
Your first paragraph says it all and is why I find it difficult to blame Taylor. Disgraceful finishing which he has no control over on the touch line. The players have let him down.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 22:00:43 GMT 1
Thing that disappointed me most about today was it was very clear how much Sobowale's miss affected him. None of the senior players went to him to encourage him and tell him to keep his head up. Think BBC website first line saying opponents rode their luck is very accurate. They certainly made the most of their luck with the deflection and how Mullin wasn't cautioned let alone sent off for his awful challenge on Marosi I will never know. It does seem a bit of a fragmented squad now, a long way from the times when Cotterill would come out and say how all the players were gelling together etc. It must feel awful to miss something like that in a big game and I'm not surprised it affected the lad.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 22:02:56 GMT 1
The Atmosphere at the ground was great today, the noise and the excitement entering the ground, I wish there were most (League) games like that.
It seems like all the other rivals (Chester, Hereford) have melted away over the years.
I may get slated for saying this but perhaps it would be good to have Wrexham back in the same division.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 7, 2024 22:09:02 GMT 1
Just home, after 12 hours on the road. Writing this before I browse this thread so some of this may be a repeat of what's written above. I've come away from that with very mixed emotions. On the one hand the way, in the first half at least, we used a high press was very effective, and limited Wrexham to rushed passes and kept the momentum away from them, despite the posession stats. I thought that 45 mins was as effective as I've see us this season. BUT, in front of goal we've been noting short of disgraceful. Sobowale and Perry's first in stoppage time are both so bad they're embarrassing. Score those and it's game over, and make no mistake we should have. So, massively annoyed for that, both are inexcusable. As for the rest of the game, the momemtum shifted like someone had flicked a switch after about 65 mins. Bayliss looked a million miles off the pace when he came on, totally rusty, but Odowu looked enterprising and one to keep an eye on, and Dunkley was an absolute mountain. Bennett has the technique of someone who's played at a higher level, and it's an absolute joy to see someone with his ability and passion still turning out, and giving absolutely everything every week when he clearly doesn't have to. Many in the team could learn a lot from him. Otherwise, Wrexham were (and this is not petty rivalry taking over, it's my honest opinion) nothing but a decent League two team, and today highlighted the obvious difference in quality between the two leagues. By any objective measure they were fortunate to win, but goodness me, we stink the place out when it comes to scoring goals, and today it's become even more annoying than it has thus far, put simply that game should have been out of sight by half time. Still, Sobowale, Shipley, plus one, works well, and seeing Sobowale with the freedom and confidence to take players on was an absolute joy to see, it's been a long time since I've seen anyone being given the freedom to be expresive like that and long may it continue. As for Bowman and Mata though! Bowman is awful in the air, he just seems to float there, never getting anywhere near it. Neither has he got the pace to run in behind, nor the skill to drop deep to collect the ball, and he doesn't score goals. I'll stop short of direct criticism, as I do genuinely feel he gives 100%, but sadly he's just a league two striker (at best). Mata, on the other hand!! I'd happily see him never play again. Did absolutely nothing when he came on, literally, including leaving on enterprising ball run out right at the end. Really, really, ridiculously poor. Anyway, I'm taking the formation changes and the intense high press away from this, and hope we can turn that into three points on Saturday, and maybe sneak something at Posh and certainly Northampton. And after 12 hours on the road, I'm grabbing a cold one and trying to unwind myself from our ineptitude in front of goal, which if I'm not careful will leave me p**sed off all week and I need to sort my tickets for Peterborough and Northampton :-) I agree with lots what you say and with anyone critiquing from a frustrated but positive outlook on today as I really do think we were decent but canโt agree on Bowman and headers. It is often true but today he won more headers than I can ever remember and I thought first half he led the line absolutely excellently. Second half he faded but the switch to Mata was a downgrade we all knew it would be and even a tired Bowman would have been better left on the pitch than that guy.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jan 7, 2024 22:15:15 GMT 1
Just home, after 12 hours on the road. Writing this before I browse this thread so some of this may be a repeat of what's written above. I've come away from that with very mixed emotions. On the one hand the way, in the first half at least, we used a high press was very effective, and limited Wrexham to rushed passes and kept the momentum away from them, despite the posession stats. I thought that 45 mins was as effective as I've see us this season. BUT, in front of goal we've been noting short of disgraceful. Sobowale and Perry's first in stoppage time are both so bad they're embarrassing. Score those and it's game over, and make no mistake we should have. So, massively annoyed for that, both are inexcusable. As for the rest of the game, the momemtum shifted like someone had flicked a switch after about 65 mins. Bayliss looked a million miles off the pace when he came on, totally rusty, but Odowu looked enterprising and one to keep an eye on, and Dunkley was an absolute mountain. Bennett has the technique of someone who's played at a higher level, and it's an absolute joy to see someone with his ability and passion still turning out, and giving absolutely everything every week when he clearly doesn't have to. Many in the team could learn a lot from him. Otherwise, Wrexham were (and this is not petty rivalry taking over, it's my honest opinion) nothing but a decent League two team, and today highlighted the obvious difference in quality between the two leagues. By any objective measure they were fortunate to win, but goodness me, we stink the place out when it comes to scoring goals, and today it's become even more annoying than it has thus far, put simply that game should have been out of sight by half time. Still, Sobowale, Shipley, plus one, works well, and seeing Sobowale with the freedom and confidence to take players on was an absolute joy to see, it's been a long time since I've seen anyone being given the freedom to be expresive like that and long may it continue. As for Bowman and Mata though! Bowman is awful in the air, he just seems to float there, never getting anywhere near it. Neither has he got the pace to run in behind, nor the skill to drop deep to collect the ball, and he doesn't score goals. I'll stop short of direct criticism, as I do genuinely feel he gives 100%, but sadly he's just a league two striker (at best). Mata, on the other hand!! I'd happily see him never play again. Did absolutely nothing when he came on, literally, including leaving on enterprising ball run out right at the end. Really, really, ridiculously poor. Anyway, I'm taking the formation changes and the intense high press away from this, and hope we can turn that into three points on Saturday, and maybe sneak something at Posh and certainly Northampton. And after 12 hours on the road, I'm grabbing a cold one and trying to unwind myself from our ineptitude in front of goal, which if I'm not careful will leave me p**sed off all week and I need to sort my tickets for Peterborough and Northampton :-) I agree with lots what you say and with anyone critiquing from a frustrated but positive outlook on today as I really do think we were decent but canโt agree on Bowman and headers. It is often true but today he won more headers than I can ever remember and I thought first half he led the line absolutely excellently. Second half he faded but the switch to Mata was a downgrade we all knew it would be and even a tired Bowman would have been better left on the pitch than that guy. Fair point on Bowman, perhaps now I've had a cold one and read a few other posts maybe it was just some frustrations coming out, but very little came of any of them. I'm still a fan of the use of Shipley, Sobowale and one striker though, it looks like it has real potential, if only because it removes the straightjacket of our god awful, dull, and utterly predictable 532, so for that reason I'm looking forward to next week, and hope we can carry on where we left off at half time.
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Post by SamHarvey on Jan 7, 2024 22:17:29 GMT 1
Well I've got to say, that really hurt. Up there with some of the worst defeats for me.
Although royally miffed after the game, upon reflection we didn't actually play that bad. Well up to about 60, 65 minutes anyway. Loved the way we went at them first half, and on another day we score one or two and it's a different game.
Agree with all posted above. Glad to see the wrexham fans on here have won graciously.
Good to have the rivalry back and looking forward to future games.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 7, 2024 22:50:17 GMT 1
Thing that disappointed me most about today was it was very clear how much Sobowale's miss affected him. None of the senior players went to him to encourage him and tell him to keep his head up. Think BBC website first line saying opponents rode their luck is very accurate. They certainly made the most of their luck with the deflection and how Mullin wasn't cautioned let alone sent off for his awful challenge on Marosi I will never know. I totally agree, and I think without being named he was included in cheys motm speech dig, I think we all share the frustration but the kid needs encouragement and nothing else
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Post by Pilch on Jan 7, 2024 22:54:59 GMT 1
Heard about this. The arrangement was 40 vs 40, no weapons. 60 or 70 EBF turned up with golf clubs and bricks. ๐๐๐ Incorrect. can we stop talking about this set to like as if its a quiz question, rather like the (if you are in the darts world you dont know if you are, you know type s**te) , there is already a sad thread on this pathetic altercation as it is
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 7, 2024 23:10:14 GMT 1
Last day on this......why didn't the wxm ' binliners' bring some golf balls???๐๐คฃ๐๐คฃ
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 8, 2024 1:47:08 GMT 1
Watch match of the day. We totally dominated them and then were unlucky
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Jan 8, 2024 2:24:43 GMT 1
We are all absolutely delirious over here I've left a message on the office answering machine telling them that I'm "fluey with a persistent cough" I would pay double the match day package price again. Just to see the look on all of your faces when we scored, and at the final whistle, in the bar, the car park etc and travelling back to the train station etc Some of you are going to give yourselves heart attacks stressing like that. I'm not one to kick a dog when its down. You don't need me to tell you that you should've won that. Before we scored you should've been 2-0 up. And even in the final minutes a couple of chances were squandered. We didn't play to our full potential. Today we put in another frustrating performance away from home and got away with it. We don't know which WFC is going to turn up. Disco football mainly at home, or a slow waltz away.. Didn't you look clowns on worldwide TV? S4C, ESPN etc ? I assumed it was Polish Shrews club?
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Post by wrexhamred on Jan 8, 2024 3:25:39 GMT 1
Right im going to f##k off now, hopefully not for another 16 years but fingers crossed just till next season.
Ive loved having this derby back, it's just confirmed how much we actually can't stand you but fully respect the club you are. The last few years have been unbelievable but our fake rivalry with Stockport and Notts C aint nothing compared to you. It me back to the 90s and 00s.
The build-up to this game and the game itself made me realise how amazing local rivalry is and that atmosphere is just pure.
All the best for the rest of the season.
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Post by neilsalop on Jan 8, 2024 6:49:59 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then? You boys missed a couple of open goals. They were presented to you on a plate . You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile! Agree with all posted above. Glad to see the wrexham fans on here have won graciously. And then there's the exception to prove the rule. Some ******s wouldn't have a clue how to win graciously. No-one likes a bad loser and to be fair I don't think there have been many posts that have been overly critical of Wrexham yesterday, they had a good slice of luck but matched us for much of the game. On the other hand there is nothing worse than a bad winner and it's galling that this gloating fool is allowed carte blanche to post his cr*p on here.
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