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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jan 8, 2024 7:06:11 GMT 1
That really hurt yesterday , I was very angry at the second half performance where we seemed to lose control of the game and offered no threat until 85 mins.
That being said first half I thought we were brilliant & simply had to take one of those chances, the ground would have been bouncing.
Thought Feeney struggled yesterday and Perry lost a few too many 50/50’s but apart from that good performances in general.
Hooking Benning didn’t work as others have said he was carrying a threat down the left and allowed Shipley to stay advanced, but as we know Bayliss needs Shipley down the left with him
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 8, 2024 8:02:23 GMT 1
Think there are a lot of Salop tinted glasses in the post match comments here. You can see why Wrexham are where they are - they came to win and control the game and they did second half. Anyone who thought this was a good performance by Shrewsbury have low expectations, lower division club at home and we didn’t score. Change the style of play, 4 at the back. Attack. Yeah, we'll have to wait and see if things improve over the coming weeks after that win against Fleetwood but as for yesterday; they put in another decent shift, there was lots of huff and puff, yet very little quality, not a great deal of constructive football and we still can't hit a cows arse with a banjo. As you were as it were.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 8, 2024 9:24:52 GMT 1
We don't know which WFC is going to turn up. Disco football mainly at home, or a slow waltz away.. I was genuinely shocked by how bad you were, I can see why some people think Parkinson isn't the answer, than brand of football is worse than ours.
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Post by wxm801 on Jan 8, 2024 9:43:41 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful. An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection. Where as you were like 2011 Barcelona? You relied on our mistakes for chances and the odd set piece. I'd rather be lumping it to Mullin than Bowman. Bowman's agent is a genius getting him a League 1 club. He's absolutely dreadful and wouldn't get in our match day squad.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 8, 2024 9:58:13 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful. An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection. Where as you were like 2011 Barcelona? You relied on our mistakes for chances and the odd set piece. I'd rather be lumping it to Mullin than Bowman. Bowman's agent is a genius getting him a League 1 club. He's absolutely dreadful and wouldn't get in our match day squad. Really? You relied on a deflected shot for your goal, we crafted multiple decent chances just couldn't finish them. We're a poor side in League One, but you couldn't touch us first half. Bowman is poor, as was Mullin yesterday, he's not done much since returning to league football.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 8, 2024 10:02:02 GMT 1
Wrexham weren’t bad bad, they just weren’t all they were built up to be by their fans and also some of our fans who seemed s**t scared of them in the build up. They were your stereotypical well drilled effective lower league side with a few really good players and they know how to win games.
Congrats on Mullin being better than Bowman by the way. He’s probably also on triple the wage.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 8, 2024 10:02:50 GMT 1
Rumour has it Paul Mullin is still in Dunkley's pocket - must be where that horrific studs up challenge on Marosi's arm came from - vile
Found his level in Non-league
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 8, 2024 10:14:02 GMT 1
Iv mentioned on numerous threads following the games, we badly need a forward and a midfielder who has some creativity,who can put his foot on the ball and pass the ball. This should be our priority in the transfer window, Our problems in these areas was plain to see in the Wrexham game.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 8, 2024 10:15:16 GMT 1
The Wrexham 23 was doing his best to try and wind up the fans.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 8, 2024 10:20:19 GMT 1
The Wrexham 23 was doing his best to try and wind up the fans. James McLean - didn't have a problem with that, he got dogs abuse (from myself included), he gave a bit back, it's fair game He was s**te btw - using Wrexham as one final decent pay check, legs had totally gone
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 8, 2024 10:26:33 GMT 1
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 8, 2024 10:28:40 GMT 1
Wrexham weren’t bad bad, they just weren’t all they were built up to be by their fans and also some of our fans who seemed s**t scared of them in the build up. They were your stereotypical well drilled effective lower league side with a few really good players and they know how to win games. Congrats on Mullin being better than Bowman by the way. He’s probably also on triple the wage. Shows the gap between league 2 and league 1 though. I don't think there has been a league game this season where we have been troubled so little by the opposition. I expect them to come up but they will have to spend really big if they think they will do well in league 1.
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Post by camdenshrew on Jan 8, 2024 10:33:31 GMT 1
Taylor really doesn't help himself with some of his post-match comments. To say we were dominant is rubbish. Yes, we created more chances and really should have taken at least two of them, but from what I saw Wrexham were in the ascendancy for most of the second half. He might be trying to keep up morale but most of our fans with any sense know what they saw.
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Post by wxm801 on Jan 8, 2024 10:33:56 GMT 1
Where as you were like 2011 Barcelona? You relied on our mistakes for chances and the odd set piece. I'd rather be lumping it to Mullin than Bowman. Bowman's agent is a genius getting him a League 1 club. He's absolutely dreadful and wouldn't get in our match day squad. Really? You relied on a deflected shot for your goal, we crafted multiple decent chances just couldn't finish them. We're a poor side in League One, but you couldn't touch us first half. Bowman is poor, as was Mullin yesterday, he's not done much since returning to league football. We were poor first half but good teams can get through those poor periods in games and still win. We do it often away and end up winning. Mullin was far superior to Bowman yesterday in every way. Mullin missed a large part of the season but is still one of the best strikers below the Championship. The majority of your first half chances were from us giving away possession. It wasn't in anyway crafted. We were there for the taking but you didn't have a clue how to do it. Once your team tired we control and there was only one team playing football, we kept the ball very well at times. 2nd half was the George Evans show. So basically the only thing you had was work rate and you couldn't even maintain that. Your manager lacked ambition and looks way out of his depth. I'd be fuming at the brain dead comments from Flanagan that basically did the team talk for Parky. How thick can you get? Hope you all enjoyed your cup final and your first sell out in how many years? But you definitely DID NOT come to see the mighty Wrexham. Definitely not.
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Post by wxm801 on Jan 8, 2024 10:39:12 GMT 1
Rumour has it Paul Mullin is still in Dunkley's pocket - must be where that horrific studs up challenge on Marosi's arm came from - vile Found his level in Non-league Mullin bullied Feeney all game. Did well to do that in someone's pocket. Nothing wrong with that challenge either, maybe if your players showed a bit more fight you'd score some goals?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 8, 2024 10:43:57 GMT 1
They’re think they’re hated due to jealousy. I’m sure that’s exactly what it is and not the arrogance, delusion and sense of entitlement.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 8, 2024 10:56:58 GMT 1
Really? You relied on a deflected shot for your goal, we crafted multiple decent chances just couldn't finish them. We're a poor side in League One, but you couldn't touch us first half. Bowman is poor, as was Mullin yesterday, he's not done much since returning to league football. We were poor first half but good teams can get through those poor periods in games and still win. We do it often away and end up winning. Mullin was far superior to Bowman yesterday in every way. Mullin missed a large part of the season but is still one of the best strikers below the Championship. The majority of your first half chances were from us giving away possession. It wasn't in anyway crafted. We were there for the taking but you didn't have a clue how to do it. Once your team tired we control and there was only one team playing football, we kept the ball very well at times. 2nd half was the George Evans show. So basically the only thing you had was work rate and you couldn't even maintain that. Your manager lacked ambition and looks way out of his depth. I'd be fuming at the brain dead comments from Flanagan that basically did the team talk for Parky. How thick can you get? Hope you all enjoyed your cup final and your first sell out in how many years? But you definitely DID NOT come to see the mighty Wrexham. Definitely not. Get a life and bog off back to your own board.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 8, 2024 10:57:30 GMT 1
Mentality played a part yesterday. The goal the stuffing out of Shrewsbury for 15 minutes and we were in complete control. Basically there was a side used to winning and a side on a bad run. Hypothetical, but I think if we went a goal down in the 72nd minute the kitchen sink would have been thrown at you for the last 20.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 8, 2024 11:18:34 GMT 1
Tbh,didn't think much of super Paul mullin yesterday,think he had one kick,and that was on the leg!!! he's struggling to score goals in league 2.....I certainly don't think he'll score many in league 1,if they go up.....Elliot lee is there best player by far,fletcher didn't do much,and can't see him being there next season.......but allegedly with the money they've got,they can go out and buy a good striker.....we will see what happens tho
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 8, 2024 11:20:00 GMT 1
Really? You relied on a deflected shot for your goal, we crafted multiple decent chances just couldn't finish them. We're a poor side in League One, but you couldn't touch us first half. Bowman is poor, as was Mullin yesterday, he's not done much since returning to league football. Mullin missed a large part of the season but is still one of the best strikers below the Championship. Absolute nonsense. If you manage to stumble over the line and make it to League One, we'll see what he can do. I'd bet he won't get double figures in the league.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 8, 2024 11:36:37 GMT 1
Who let mullin go?? Was it Cambridge......they obviously didn't think much of him at the time,that was league 2 wasn't it.......league 1 is a very tough league,with some good defenders there.....and he won't get much joy out of them either!!!
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 8, 2024 11:47:14 GMT 1
Mullin scored 40+ goals in his last season at Cambridge and fired them to promotion. They’ve named a stand after him. He missed the first 10 games or so this season but is in double figures. He didn’t play well yesterday but don’t worry about him, he’ll get 25-30 by the end of the season. Incredible at home, so-so away 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by How Soon Is Now? on Jan 8, 2024 11:50:15 GMT 1
Mentality played a part yesterday. The goal the stuffing out of Shrewsbury for 15 minutes and we were in complete control. Basically there was a side used to winning and a side on a bad run. Hypothetical, but I think if we went a goal down in the 72nd minute the kitchen sink would have been thrown at you for the last 20. Absolutely spot on. It's not just the players either - the whole stadium (home sections anyway!) went silent after the goal. I think the mental impact is even worse as it's not just we're not winning a lot of games, it's that we can't score a goal so matches are almost being played as sudden death. I'm not surprised by the reaction to yesterday's defeat as such, as we're all passionate fans and losing to our main rivals always feels disastrous. However, I do think a lot of the criticism is extremely harsh. It was the second match following a tweak in system, the first of which we won 3-1. How we didn't score yesterday is beyond me: missed two absolute sitters, hit the bar and had other chances. The cold reality is we were 23/10 outsiders with the bookies yesterday. This isn't due to budget or any other perceived imbalance, it's a pretty common scenario for games when the team in the higher league is struggling and the 'lower' team is flying. In that context, a performance from which we were incredibly unlucky to lose looks far less disastrous. In terms of Wrexham - I was surprised how poor they were in the first half, but you look at how an experienced Manager earns his money. Second half, controlled the ball much better and, most importantly, pretty much stopped messing about with it at the back altogether. This completely nullified Salop's high press and we never really adapted. Yes they'll need to invest if they want to compete in League One. This isn't an insult - Salop are one of the biggest indicators of the gulf between L1 and L2 if you look at our respective performances at each level over the past 15 or so years. I presume the likes of Fletcher and McClean (who both looked way off L1 standard imo) are on short contracts to help get them out of L2, which is fair enough. Having said that, hard to judge players on a single game - Mullin looked entirely ordinary yesterday but I don't doubt his ability to perform at L1 level.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 8, 2024 12:08:17 GMT 1
Rumour has it Paul Mullin is still in Dunkley's pocket - must be where that horrific studs up challenge on Marosi's arm came from - vile Found his level in Non-league Mullin bullied Feeney all game. Did well to do that in someone's pocket. Nothing wrong with that challenge either, maybe if your players showed a bit more fight you'd score some goals? Re Feeney - you'll see on another thread, I pretty much said he's a League Two defender, so thanks for agreeing with me that that is Mullin's level at best - he didn't get a sniff against a proper League One defender in Dunkley The challenge should've been a red card - thuggery, but not surprising from him
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 8, 2024 12:19:09 GMT 1
Mentality played a part yesterday. The goal the stuffing out of Shrewsbury for 15 minutes and we were in complete control. Basically there was a side used to winning and a side on a bad run. Hypothetical, but I think if we went a goal down in the 72nd minute the kitchen sink would have been thrown at you for the last 20. Absolutely spot on. It's not just the players either - the whole stadium (home sections anyway!) went silent after the goal. Couldn’t agree more. I honestly couldn’t believe the silence, this was a rare occasion we could feel hard done by to go behind and even the goal itself was rotten luck. Yet, the crowd barely even stirred. Likewise, not helped by the tactical switch, neither did the players until stoppage time.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 8, 2024 12:24:31 GMT 1
Absolutely spot on. It's not just the players either - the whole stadium (home sections anyway!) went silent after the goal. Couldn’t agree more. I honestly couldn’t believe the silence, this was a rare occasion we could feel hard done by to go behind and even the goal itself was rotten luck. Yet, the crowd barely even stirred. Likewise, not helped by the tactical switch, neither did the players until stoppage time. I've commented about this on another thread. Having been to most home games and a fair few away' this season, I really could believe the silence. We rarely put up any fight this season when we go 1-0 down. Reading the only game? Going 1-0 down with this team means we may aswell go back to the pub early. Sorry if that sounds defeatist but it's how it's been this season. They gave us nothing to get behind between minutes 65-90 either. Laborious ineffective throw ins, continued aimless punts up field, no sustained pressure, still only 1 man up top We should thrown the kitchen sink at Wrexham final 20 mins but we went out with a whimper - in saying that, Taylor Perry has to score in injury time and take us to a deserved replay
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 8, 2024 12:25:32 GMT 1
To be fair to Taylor, his tactics were spot on in the first half. The pitch seemed to be a bit bobbly to me and a good first touch was difficult. This is where the Shrewsbury press was so effective. As has just been said, Parkinson clearly told his players to stop thinking about that first touch, just clear your lines.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 8, 2024 12:36:33 GMT 1
The Wrexham 23 was doing his best to try and wind up the fans. James McLean - didn't have a problem with that, he got dogs abuse (from myself included), he gave a bit back, it's fair game He was s**te btw - using Wrexham as one final decent pay check, legs had totally gone Enjoyed seeing McLean react and get the crowd going like that, he played his part in the match, yes his legs have gone and it was a good duel between him and Bennett. I wish some of the Town players had that passion.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 8, 2024 12:38:25 GMT 1
Right im going to f##k off now, hopefully not for another 16 years but fingers crossed just till next season. Ive loved having this derby back, it's just confirmed how much we actually can't stand you but fully respect the club you are. The last few years have been unbelievable but our fake rivalry with Stockport and Notts C aint nothing compared to you. It me back to the 90s and 00s. The build-up to this game and the game itself made me realise how amazing local rivalry is and that atmosphere is just pure. All the best for the rest of the season. Very well said and would agree with everything said there. Plus I'd rather have Wrexham as a rival than Port Vale.
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Post by wxm801 on Jan 8, 2024 12:56:02 GMT 1
Who let mullin go?? Was it Cambridge......they obviously didn't think much of him at the time,that was league 2 wasn't it.......league 1 is a very tough league,with some good defenders there.....and he won't get much joy out of them either!!! Oh dear. Someone send this fella a link to Google. They thought so little of him at Cambridge that they named a stand after him after he scored 32 goals and they got promoted to League One.
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