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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 18:04:36 GMT 1
One thing is clear after today , Wrexham might have a far superior budget that us but they are close to finding their level , if they think they are heading to the championship anytime soon they might need to spend hell of a lot more money if they are serious about it On the flip side, I think Wrexham fans will be saying if Shrewsbury are a mid table L1 side there’s not too much to fear if we go up.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jan 7, 2024 18:07:14 GMT 1
We blew it but that's football for you. I hope you get a good draw in the 4th round and good luck for the rest of the season. God, get a grip. Pathetic. May as well just buy a season ticket and start going to watch them. Excuse me, no need for the insults, thank you.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 7, 2024 18:10:38 GMT 1
Well I was dreading been out played and thrashed, we started on the front foot, pressed well and nullified Wrexham's attack We had seven good scoring opportunities but a combination of a lack of composure and clinical finishing resulted in no goals, it does not matter at what level you play if you squandere that many chances then you are going to be punished and we were,rottenn Iuck to lose to a deflection, I thought we played better in the first half, second half we seem to run out of steam and ideas, the substations seem to make things worse and created less chances after that. After the goal Wrexham controlled the game, we really looked fairly clueless.
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Jan 7, 2024 18:56:07 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then? You boys missed a couple of open goals. They were presented to you on a plate . You've got to get the ball in the onion bag!
"We're taking over your town AGAIN!"
At least you were all home for Countryfile!
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 18:59:00 GMT 1
Wrexham actually aren't that good are they, yet they improved second half but nothing cutting edge.
Dunkley dealt with Mullen well as did Feeney, Mcclean's legs have gone though the boy is good value. Fletcher is passed it as well.
Walking to the ground and hearing the noise from both sets of fans, I kind of hope Wrexham do come up next season to have two games like this there was a great atmosphere inside the stadium today, all should take credit for that.
The Town Game Plan was lacking and ran out of steam in the Second half.
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Post by MetaShrew on Jan 7, 2024 19:00:03 GMT 1
Add this to the innumerable list of Town flops in front of a big crowd that have occurred, home and away, over the last 20 years.
Galling.
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Post by wrexhamred on Jan 7, 2024 19:01:13 GMT 1
Honest opinion, you should of got at least a draw. It's obvious why you don't score many goals.
I thought you played the conditions better. The pitch was poor, and we tried to play football to much at times. We gifted you 4/5 chances and you cut us open a few times from good play. But your finishing was abysmal.
2nd half we controlled the game for long periods as your high press from the 1st half finally its toll on you.
Anyway it's been great having the derby back a proper rivalry that means everything.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 19:01:46 GMT 1
We missed 3 sitters. Played well enough first half,second half we just kept pushing but ran out of ideas fairly quickly. But hey, at least we have dodged the replay at a s**thole. Part of me wanted a replay so we could show what we’re capable of. Our home and away form are chalk and cheese. Today was your best chance of beating us I think. True, I was thinking of what the replay would have been like as well.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 19:14:31 GMT 1
Honest opinion, you should of got at least a draw. It's obvious why you don't score many goals. I thought you played the conditions better. The pitch was poor, and we tried to play football to much at times. We gifted you 4/5 chances and you cut us open a few times from good play. But your finishing was abysmal. 2nd half we controlled the game for long periods as your high press from the 1st half finally its toll on you. Anyway it's been great having the derby back a proper rivalry that means everything. Completely Agree with everything said there. And it turns out Wrexham are a nicer bunch than Port Vale as well.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jan 7, 2024 19:28:48 GMT 1
Was there any ugly scenes outside the ground afterwards? Or was the area down Otley road/ Brooklands policed well?
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 7, 2024 19:31:24 GMT 1
Should have been a comfortable 3-0 victory but we got sucker punched and ended up losing the game. If that is the standard of the top of league 2 if we ever go down we will win the league by Christmas. They were clueless and I thought there fans considering the occasion and the amount of away fans was very poor.
We are better in every aspect despite a smash and grab result. We do not have to worried about the bubble bursting in a few years time.
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Post by iestywfc on Jan 7, 2024 19:33:39 GMT 1
Thought we were rightly outplayed first half. We were trying too hard with the cheeky flick ones and layoffs, and you closed down far too quickly.
If that chance went in for you first half, it's a totally different game. Unlucky and a difficult shot to take which ultimately came off his shin and not controlled.
2nd half we must have had a Parky motivational speech (i.e. 20 F**CKs a minute rollicking) and played much simpler football
Subs didn't work for you either, and you need someone who isn't Bowman up front. Think you will be good for the season but don't know if Taylor is your man
RE: my visit to town, heavy on the police presence around town, and in particular the station. Didn't seem like much trouble and everyone well behaved.
Salopian not as busy as I thought and was safely sat there for a few guinnesses enjoying the atmos
See you next season, and I will keep a watchful eye on the remainder for you in the meantime
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 7, 2024 19:36:31 GMT 1
Lots of Police activity after the game with them rushing out of the ground towards the Brooklands but from personal observation didn't see any problems and have to say that the Wrexham supporters I came into contact with were very pleasant and there for the football.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 7, 2024 19:46:53 GMT 1
Didn't quite take our chances, but were playing better than Wrexham. We actually looked mid league one to their near top league 2. A strong subs bench just didn't come on and do the business, we went backwards, unlike Ryan B for them who came on with a point to prove up the right side. It a bit of luck, which we didn't get, for them to score. By the end just an all importanmt fag paper between the two teams, but, play like that and we will finish top half. Those on the periphery of the team need to sharpen up though.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 7, 2024 19:53:54 GMT 1
Not much between the teams...wxm picked up a bit 2nd half.... But didn't trouble marosi much......and Perry should of taken those 2 chances🤦if it was someone like Wayne Clarke....he would of done,no bother......and there lies the difference!!!
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 19:56:07 GMT 1
Matt Taylor isn't the problem here, he was passionate today on the touchline and the defeat seems to have hit him hard, he speaks well and continues to impress me. My thoughts on the rest today.
Marosi - Comfortable and solid performance and was brave around a couple of balls underneath the bar, 7/10
Feeney - Fairly comfortable as well going forward not the best but he wasn't to be found wanting in a challenge. 7/10
Dunkley - The Beast, was the best player on the pitch by a mile, kept Mullen and Fletcher quiet. 8/10
Anderson - A slight weak link in the back three, defensively - his distribution is better than Feeney though. 6/10
Kennah - Up for the fight and a tackle an emerging player who is getting stronger 7/10
Bennett - Tried to run things going forward, a better player than Mcclean his opposite number, was lucky with the handball in the first half though 7/10
Shipley - Bit of an enigma, he takes an age to take throw in's always a bad sign 6/10
Perry - Got a knock after 10 minutes and seemed to limp around forever, saw Taylor scream at him a number of times, needs to wake up and should have been replaced. 5/10
Sobowale - Played well, his pace and energy is something and it worried Wrexham at times, yet he has no finish, 7/10
Benning - Unlucky with the shot in the 2nd half, played in an unnatural positioned but tried his best, should have stayed on the pitch 7/10
Bowman - Tries to work hard but the system does not suit him, he's a finisher and balls should be put into him (Shipley) 6/10.
The Subs made little impact, Bayliss is a frustrating player, also note to Winchester who decided to spend his warm up chatting casually with the Wrexham subs, maybe if you like talking to them perhaps you should go and play in League Two with them, at least Bayliss nor Idowu got involved in that, and it Sraha to pull him away, though that was an interesting observation.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jan 7, 2024 19:59:39 GMT 1
Disappointing to be the victim of a giant-killing by a Lower league minnow but , as many others have said, you have to take your chances when they come. Parkinson said on 5live that they were surprised by our high press in the first half. The problem is our team as a whole is not fit enough to sustain that and we were struggling for fully 10 minutes in the second half before they scored. The substitutions derailed us - why take off Benning (who was IMO our best player today and did not seem to be struggling for fitness)and then drop Shipley (one of our most likely scorers) back to wingback - that makes a double negative. Also , why just like for like substitutions late in the second half of a cup match? Surely that is a time to roll the dice, move to a flat back four and have both our recognised strikers on together to give the opposition something tactically different to think about. I said before the game that the Fleetwood and Stevenage games were more important and I stick by that but we should have won the game today.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 7, 2024 19:59:40 GMT 1
Perhaps Winchester is on his way somewhere.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:01:08 GMT 1
Hundreds of thousands of pounds pumped into their overrated squad and they play like a John Beck meets Graham Westley hoofball side from a bygone era
They were there for the taking and fortunately for them, they came up against us. Any competent League One side would have put them to bed
Thought we competed well until the goal but our lack of reaction from conceding was nothing short of an embarrassment - Headless chickens running around that looked like the occasion had got too much for them. No one wanting the ball, no one in a position to receive the ball. Taking 20 seconds over a throw-in in the dying minutes only for Shipley to eventually throw it to Bayliss who returned it into touch. Honestly, what are they doing in training?
Taylor will feel a false sense of vindication with his selection and tactics given we missed two guilt-edge chances at the end where we could have nicked something, but truth be told if there was any improvement on Burton or Cheltenham it was barely noticable.
Throwing the lad Idowu into a derby game at 0-0 given his recent playing experience was in the equivalent of Telford's league seemed like a baptism of fire. Bayliss looked knackered but even at 50% fitness he's still probably our best hope of creating anything.
Thought Bennett had the winning of that rat McClean for most of the game, as did Dunkley of that equally as loathsome Mullin - but Elliott Lee ran the show for me with a fantastic performance. Five defeats in six now, any goodwill towards Taylor from me has finally eroded.
I'm genuinely jealous of the 4,000+ Town fans today that don't have to watch us play until the next big draw in the cup.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 7, 2024 20:02:06 GMT 1
Marosi - 7 played well, no chance with goal
Bennett - 7, accomplished performance, some good crosses from corners Feeney - 5, looked nervy in defence and woeful on the ball Dunkley - 8, MOTM Anderson - 6, unconvincing at times but no huge mistakes Benning - 7, shouldn’t have been subbed, was a good outlet on the left
Perry - 5, led the press in the first 20, then was anonymous, then missed lots of chances Kenneh - 5, tackled well, passed the ball to a red shirt lots, tired and should’ve been subbed Sobowale - 5, dangerous in patches but there was a lot of standing and walking around Shipley - 5, never gave up but was unable to affect the game going forward.
Bowman - 6, battled manfully off scraps
Subs - Idowu 4, Bayliss 4, Mata 4, Sraha 5, Pierre NA
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Post by kenwood on Jan 7, 2024 20:02:48 GMT 1
It’s been absolutely bloody obvious for ages - we cannot score . Once the opposition score we are finished , we desperately need someone who can take our chances . I know every team in the League are after a goal scorer but bloody hell, we recruit a young player from the League of Ireland and expect him to perform in League 1 . When he’s not playing and his strike partner is injured what have we got up front - Bowman and plus1 . I desperately want Taylor to do well and I truly believe we will be o k this season but Moore needs to do what he’s there for and to date I think he’s getting paid under false pretences .
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:06:25 GMT 1
No trouble by ' brooklands' after game.....only police,police,and more police 👍👍
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jan 7, 2024 20:10:07 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then? You boys missed a couple of open goals. They were presented to you on a plate . You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile! your lot are not that good at all
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Post by Pilch on Jan 7, 2024 20:17:41 GMT 1
Matt Taylor isn't the problem here, he was passionate today on the touchline and the defeat seems to have hit him hard, he speaks well and continues to impress me. My thoughts on the rest today. Marosi - Comfortable and solid performance and was brave around a couple of balls underneath the bar, 7/10 Feeney - Fairly comfortable as well going forward not the best but he wasn't to be found wanting in a challenge. 7/10 Dunkley - The Beast, was the best player on the pitch by a mile, kept Mullen and Fletcher quiet. 8/10 Anderson - A slight weak link in the back three, defensively - his distribution is better than Feeney though. 6/10 Kennah - Up for the fight and a tackle an emerging player who is getting stronger 7/10 Bennett - Tried to run things going forward, a better player than Mcclean his opposite number, was lucky with the handball in the first half though 7/10 Shipley - Bit of an enigma, he takes an age to take throw in's always a bad sign 6/10 Perry - Got a knock after 10 minutes and seemed to limp around forever, saw Taylor scream at him a number of times, needs to wake up and should have been replaced. 5/10 Sobowale - Played well, his pace and energy is something and it worried Wrexham at times, yet he has no finish, 7/10 Benning - Unlucky with the shot in the 2nd half, played in an unnatural positioned but tried his best, should have stayed on the pitch 7/10 Bowman - Tries to work hard but the system does not suit him, he's a finisher and balls should be put into him (Shipley) 6/10. The Subs made little impact, Bayliss is a frustrating player, also note to Winchester who decided to spend his warm up chatting casually with the Wrexham subs, maybe if you like talking to them perhaps you should go and play in League Two with them, at least Bayliss nor Idowu got involved in that, and it Sraha to pull him away, though that was an interesting observation. I'd say you've underscored marosi , and bowman Marosi had a very good game today , came and collected everything he needed to and punched more than I've ever seen him do Bowman won everything in the air , covered some ground on the floor too , ok he didn't get a sniff as far as an effort on goal but thought he put a great shift in , kenneh I'd be happy to downgrade , did ok defensively but out of his depth when attacking , dunkly give him an 8 , just because he made a fool of Mullen at times , Shipley 6.8 , 6 is harsh , he had a decent game
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 20:22:02 GMT 1
Well well well..... What do you think about that then? You boys missed a couple of open goals. They were presented to you on a plate . You've got to get the ball in the onion bag! "We're taking over your town AGAIN!" At least you were all home for Countryfile! your lot are not that good at all We weren’t that good today and yet still beat a side from the next league up. Isn’t that the sign of a good side? Resilience. Neither keeper made a save of any note, which suggests both sets of defenders had the better of their opponents. I thought 1-1 before the game and that would have been the fairest score line.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:23:44 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful.
An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 7, 2024 20:25:21 GMT 1
You could be right there Pilch on my scoring, give Dunkley 9, Marosi 8 and Bowman 7. I may be harsh on Perry and Shipley but they do frustrated like all attacking midfielders to (as an ex defensive player).
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 7, 2024 20:25:59 GMT 1
Not much between the teams...wxm picked up a bit 2nd half.... But didn't trouble marosi much......and Perry should of taken those 2 chances🤦if it was someone like Wayne Clarke....he would of done,no bother......and there lies the difference!!! Have to hope that some of our players who don't quite take their chances are learning and will get better.
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Post by doctorproctor on Jan 7, 2024 20:27:41 GMT 1
Considering the hundreds of thousands lobbed at them, they're woeful. An aging side that lumps it to Mullin and relied on a deflection. And your lads are on peanuts?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 7, 2024 20:28:09 GMT 1
Wrexham are clearly better than they showed today as if they played like that regularly they’d lose more than they win, even in the lower division.
But despite not deserving the win, they’ve got the winning habit and were well drilled, compared to us where we have players all standing round looking at each other.
They’re confident bordering on arrogant and rightfully enjoying their time but it won’t last forever.
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