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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 12:51:26 GMT 1
I've never met a town fan who genuinely wants us to lose. Can anyone say they have? I have, yes.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 13:09:06 GMT 1
but it did get several tails wagging on here , any defeat does well there are plenty of those to choose from...defeats that is That's why it's like crufts on here 🐶🐕🦮🐩🐕🦺🦴
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 13:10:12 GMT 1
In the past I've certainly heard throwaway comments like "if we lost this weekend and it meant that <insert manager> went then I'd take it", but haven't heard anything like that this season. To be honest, I think a lot of fans are a bit confused what to think as the football has been dull as hell but the league position has been respectable. Thats because it hasn’t happened. Only in some people’s imagination. Oh apparently Jamo mentioned anti town fans in 2012 😂
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Post by southshropblue on Dec 29, 2023 13:10:54 GMT 1
5 shots on target in a game we lost 3-0 doesn’t quite make my season highlights. but it did get several tails wagging on here , any defeat does Most fans including people on this board are desperate for wins and attractive football starting tonight please
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Post by southshropblue on Dec 29, 2023 14:00:19 GMT 1
well there are plenty of those to choose from...defeats that is That's why it's like crufts on here 🐶🐕🦮🐩🐕🦺🦴 To be fair that is reasonably humorous Pilch, but I am baffled that you cant tell the difference between being critical of recent results and the style of play and the goal tally this season......... and being someone who wants the club to lose or perhaps you can and don't want to admit it ? I haven't met fans who want us to lose and it is because most fans want us to win and to play better football that they express criticism of the current set up and style You criticised a lot last year and this year the style is even less pleasing to the eye (so far)
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Post by belfastshrew on Dec 29, 2023 14:15:14 GMT 1
Woof
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Post by staffordshrew on Dec 29, 2023 15:33:18 GMT 1
Things are pretty ruff at the moment. The team should have their tails between their legs after the dog's breakfast at Cheltenham.
But to get rid of the new new hierarchy, only put into place last summer, would be barking mad.
Yet still posters keep digging up the same bones of contention.
If I had a pound for every post criticising the management I'd own Roden Dogs Trust kennels.
So perhaps we could cut down on giving them such a woof time and let them prove their Pedigree chums.
Remember, every dog has their season.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 29, 2023 15:54:15 GMT 1
Things are pretty ruff at the moment.
But to get rid of the new new hierarchy, only put into place last summer, would be barking mad.
Yet still posters keep digging up the same bones of contention.
If I had a pound for every post criticising the management I'd own Roden Dogs Trust kennels.
So perhaps we could cut down on giving them such a woof time and let them prove their Pedigree chums.
Remember, every dog has their season.
Dont think this season is the best one for this dog 😉 Agree with the rest of your sentiment though.
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Post by wookeywombat on Dec 29, 2023 16:12:15 GMT 1
This season probably proves, without mentioning any names, that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 16:12:45 GMT 1
That's why it's like crufts on here 🐶🐕🦮🐩🐕🦺🦴 To be fair that is reasonably humorous Pilch, but I am baffled that you cant tell the difference between being critical of recent results and the style of play and the goal tally this season......... and being someone who wants the club to lose or perhaps you can and don't want to admit it ? I haven't met fans who want us to lose and it is because most fans want us to win and to play better football that they express criticism of the current set up and style You criticised a lot last year and this year the style is even less pleasing to the eye (so far) Have I said our style is pleasing on the eye ? ( pre season it looked promising ) but injuries have led to the old square pegs in round holes Have I mentioned our goal tally is great ? , has anyone ? Nope ,all I mentioned like a growing number have , it seems like there are a few who enjoy us losing and their comments and actions point to some actually hoping we lose funny how I highlighted a post from back in April where someone suggested certain town fans wanted us to lose , ( that's exactly the same claim I'm making ) and it got a lot of likes from most of those now saying it's a bizarre thing to suggest No-one involved in that post has dared revisit it , I wonder why
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Post by belfastshrew on Dec 29, 2023 16:16:57 GMT 1
If I thought the manager had to go to save the club, I would want us to lose every game until they are out the door. Simples 🤣
Love Anti-Town Fan ❤️
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 29, 2023 16:22:59 GMT 1
I’ve always believed in giving a new manager a decent amount of time to show what he can do, 18 months at least. Obviously that could be damaging if the guy is a complete duffer but with the qualifications needed these days there will be few, if any, useless candidates.
I think Taylor has been unfortunate with injuries and budget limitations and has not been able to get the team playing as he would want and has not had the chance to get his own players in.
Players will be unhappy with losing and I don’t see any merit in denying them time with their families on Christmas Day.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 16:28:41 GMT 1
If I thought the manager had to go to save the club, I would want us to lose every game until they are out the door. Simples 🤣 Love Anti-Town Fan ❤️ We've just sacked one manager in order to save the club , and you're still not happy, 🤔 confused.com
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 29, 2023 16:40:36 GMT 1
The whole club is having to work hard to bail out yet another RW **** up.
How many more woeful senior appointments? How many more potential investors are we going to tolerate him falling out with?
It's not on, it's got to stop, change at the top is required.
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 16:43:48 GMT 1
To be fair that is reasonably humorous Pilch, but I am baffled that you cant tell the difference between being critical of recent results and the style of play and the goal tally this season......... and being someone who wants the club to lose or perhaps you can and don't want to admit it ? I haven't met fans who want us to lose and it is because most fans want us to win and to play better football that they express criticism of the current set up and style You criticised a lot last year and this year the style is even less pleasing to the eye (so far) Have I said our style is pleasing on the eye ? ( pre season it looked promising ) but injuries have led to the old square pegs in round holes Have I mentioned our goal tally is great ? , has anyone ? Nope ,all I mentioned like a growing number have , it seems like there are a few who enjoy us losing and their comments and actions point to some actually hoping we lose funny how I highlighted a post from back in April where someone suggested certain town fans wanted us to lose , ( that's exactly the same claim I'm making ) and it got a lot of likes from most of those now saying it's a bizarre thing to suggest No-one involved in that post has dared revisit it , I wonder why It seems to you but not others. Again show us a post which seems to say they want us to loose? Our style of play is poor, our goal tally is poor, somethings got to change to ensure safety so fans debate the options. The majority arnt calling for the managers head BUT aren’t happy with the position we’re in
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 16:47:01 GMT 1
Have I said our style is pleasing on the eye ? ( pre season it looked promising ) but injuries have led to the old square pegs in round holes Have I mentioned our goal tally is great ? , has anyone ? Nope ,all I mentioned like a growing number have , it seems like there are a few who enjoy us losing and their comments and actions point to some actually hoping we lose funny how I highlighted a post from back in April where someone suggested certain town fans wanted us to lose , ( that's exactly the same claim I'm making ) and it got a lot of likes from most of those now saying it's a bizarre thing to suggest No-one involved in that post has dared revisit it , I wonder why It seems to you but not others. Again show us a post which seems to say they want us to loose? Our style of play is poor, our goal tally is poor, somethings got to change to ensure safety so fans debate the options. The majority arnt calling for the managers head BUT aren’t happy with the position we’re in I've clearly pointed on the board in the last 24 hours out at least 3 others who share my option and have spoken out about it
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Post by staffordshrew on Dec 29, 2023 16:55:46 GMT 1
The whole club is having to work hard to bail out yet another RW **** up. How many more woeful senior appointments? How many more potential investors are we going to tolerate him falling out with? It's not on, it's got to stop, change at the top is required. Ah, the old "white knight" chestnut.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 17:11:27 GMT 1
It seems to you but not others. Again show us a post which seems to say they want us to loose? Our style of play is poor, our goal tally is poor, somethings got to change to ensure safety so fans debate the options. The majority arnt calling for the managers head BUT aren’t happy with the position we’re in I've clearly pointed on the board in the last 24 hours out at least 3 others who share my option and have spoken out about it I've actually heard Town fans at the last 2 home games saying that they want anything to have the crowd turn on Taylor and the Chairman. Minority or not, that's not fantasy, that's fact. How about this post? "But just as soon as Wrexham have stopped celebrating in front of a packed away end, after strolling through a 3rd round cup tie, then the current management arrangement has to be done away with.
Time for the blinkered despot at the top to realise this"...
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 17:16:53 GMT 1
It seems to you but not others. Again show us a post which seems to say they want us to loose? Our style of play is poor, our goal tally is poor, somethings got to change to ensure safety so fans debate the options. The majority arnt calling for the managers head BUT aren’t happy with the position we’re in I've clearly pointed on the board in the last 24 hours out at least 3 others who share my option and have spoken out about it Chinese whispers. Show me one post that says or even hints they want us to lose.
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 17:21:12 GMT 1
I've clearly pointed on the board in the last 24 hours out at least 3 others who share my option and have spoken out about it I've actually heard Town fans at the last 2 home games saying that they want anything to have the crowd turn on Taylor and the Chairman. Minority or not, that's not fantasy, that's fact. How about this post? "But just as soon as Wrexham have stopped celebrating in front of a packed away end, after strolling through a 3rd round cup tie, then the current management arrangement has to be done away with.
Time for the blinkered despot at the top to realise this"...
Yet no one’s said it on here….. the post your quoting is saying they expect Wrexham to win (not hoping) and if we lose the current managers times up. Im talking about the spamming of the board no what happens at the match. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 17:24:18 GMT 1
I've actually heard Town fans at the last 2 home games saying that they want anything to have the crowd turn on Taylor and the Chairman. Minority or not, that's not fantasy, that's fact. How about this post? "But just as soon as Wrexham have stopped celebrating in front of a packed away end, after strolling through a 3rd round cup tie, then the current management arrangement has to be done away with.
Time for the blinkered despot at the top to realise this"...
Yet no one’s said it on here….. the post your quoting is saying they expect Wrexham to win (not hoping) and if we lose the current managers times up. There are 2 other posts that I'd previously seen but surprise surprise they have subsequently been edited. Anyroadup, I've heard it first hand from Town "fans"...could be and probably is a very small minority but I heard what I heard.
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 29, 2023 17:24:31 GMT 1
Taylor has to be sat down and told the magnitude of the Wrexham game.
To sit back and watch them play simply will not be tolerated. They're in the division below us, we have to try and exert dominance over them.
It's a "must not lose" game for many reasons, take note Matty.
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Post by jamo on Dec 29, 2023 17:32:55 GMT 1
How about this post? "But just as soon as Wrexham have stopped celebrating in front of a packed away end, after strolling through a 3rd round cup tie, then the current management arrangement has to be done away with.
Time for the blinkered despot at the top to realise this"...
Ok, my words, and I stand by them 100%. And I note that you have ignored the point that ‘ then the current management arrangement has to be done away with’ by which I am not in any way saying Taylor should be dismissed, rather he should be allowed overall control of recruitment, tactics, team selection et al, which I strongly believe not to be the case currently. As for the blinkered despot at the top. I wasn’t referring to RW. I will ask you again. Show me where Town fans are saying they want the team to lose a game..any game? If you can do do then it would be helpful to the debate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 17:35:50 GMT 1
How about this post? "But just as soon as Wrexham have stopped celebrating in front of a packed away end, after strolling through a 3rd round cup tie, then the current management arrangement has to be done away with.
Time for the blinkered despot at the top to realise this"...
Ok, my words, and I stand by them 100%. And I note that you have ignored the point that ‘ then the current management arrangement has to be done away with’ by which I am not in any way saying Taylor should be dismissed, rather he should be allowed overall control of recruitment, tactics team, selection et al, which I strongly believe not to be the case currently. As for the blinkered despot at the top. I wasn’t referring to RW. I will ask you again. Show me where Town fans are saying they want the team to lose a game..any game? If you can do do then it would be helpful to the debate. I've heard it first hand, and I've seen posts that have subsequently been edited, no surprise there. Do you honestly think that I'm peddling some half truths or even a fantasy, as one poster put it?
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 17:39:41 GMT 1
I've clearly pointed on the board in the last 24 hours out at least 3 others who share my option and have spoken out about it Chinese whispers. Show me one post that says or even hints they want us to lose. no one is stupid enough to admit it in writing I mean I desperatly want town to win tonight but I can't prove that either I mentioned Dylan's positively 4th street a while back, the lyrics sum it up for me Check the last 15 mins or so of the podcast , they've seen it too
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 17:40:28 GMT 1
Yet no one’s said it on here….. the post your quoting is saying they expect Wrexham to win (not hoping) and if we lose the current managers times up. There are 2 other posts that I'd previously seen but surprise surprise they have subsequently been edited. Anyroadup, I've heard it first hand from Town "fans"...could be and probably is a very small minority but I heard what I heard. Not denying it may have been said, there’s some strange folk about just not on here, I’ve been monitoring … Just wondering why it being debated to death on here? ps It may have been said last season once we were safe to get rid of 🦖
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 29, 2023 17:42:30 GMT 1
Chinese whispers. Show me one post that says or even hints they want us to lose. no one is stupid enough to admit it in writing
I mean I desperatly want town to win tonight but I can't prove that either I mentioned Dylan's positively 4th street a while back, the lyrics sum it up for me Check the last 15 mins or so of the podcast , they've seen it too Who’s Dylan you’ve lost me. Glad we can put it to bed now on here at least
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Post by jamo on Dec 29, 2023 17:48:01 GMT 1
Ok, my words, and I stand by them 100%. And I note that you have ignored the point that ‘ then the current management arrangement has to be done away with’ by which I am not in any way saying Taylor should be dismissed, rather he should be allowed overall control of recruitment, tactics team, selection et al, which I strongly believe not to be the case currently. As for the blinkered despot at the top. I wasn’t referring to RW. I will ask you again. Show me where Town fans are saying they want the team to lose a game..any game? If you can do do then it would be helpful to the debate. I've heard it first hand, and I've seen posts that have subsequently been edited, no surprise there. Do you honestly think that I'm peddling some half truths or even a fantasy, as one poster put it? I have no idea if your intention is to peddle half-truths or fantasies but I suspect and hope not. The issue here is not ‘what you’ve heard’ it is that yourself-and others, have stated numerous times that posters have stated on this site that they want Town to lose. Can you please provide evidence of that allegation, I am more than happy to concede the fact once you do so. Also, the point about posts being edited I find to be a bit of a smokescreen if you don’t mind me saying. It wont be lost on members of this forum that it is mostly moderators that are peddling the ‘ I want Town to lose’ narrative, and yet as moderators you have full powers to address that exact issue. Just as you do when posts disappear without explanation, when wording is subtly changed without permission and even when post titles are changed. But choose not to.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 29, 2023 17:59:24 GMT 1
I've heard it first hand, and I've seen posts that have subsequently been edited, no surprise there. Do you honestly think that I'm peddling some half truths or even a fantasy, as one poster put it? I have no idea if your intention is to peddle half-truths or fantasies but I suspect and hope not. The issue here is not ‘what you’ve heard’ it is that yourself-and others, have stated numerous times that posters have stated on this site that they want Town to lose. Can you please provide evidence of that allegation, I am more than happy to concede the fact once you do so. Also, the point about posts being edited I find to be a bit of a smokescreen if you don’t mind me saying. It wont be lost on members of this forum that it is mostly moderators that are peddling the ‘ I want Town to lose’ narrative, and yet as moderators you have full powers to address that exact issue. Just as you do when posts disappear without explanation, when wording is subtly changed without permission and even when post titles are changed. But chose not to. I could wave the truth in front of your face and you'd say it was lies so hey , let's all agree to disagree and concentrate on cheering burton on 🤪
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Post by ar**chairfan on Dec 29, 2023 19:03:24 GMT 1
I have no idea if your intention is to peddle half-truths or fantasies but I suspect and hope not. The issue here is not ‘what you’ve heard’ it is that yourself-and others, have stated numerous times that posters have stated on this site that they want Town to lose. Can you please provide evidence of that allegation, I am more than happy to concede the fact once you do so. Also, the point about posts being edited I find to be a bit of a smokescreen if you don’t mind me saying. It wont be lost on members of this forum that it is mostly moderators that are peddling the ‘ I want Town to lose’ narrative, and yet as moderators you have full powers to address that exact issue. Just as you do when posts disappear without explanation, when wording is subtly changed without permission and even when post titles are changed. But chose not to. I could wave the truth in front of your face and you'd say it was lies so hey , let's all agree to disagree and concentrate on cheering burton on 🤪 **&%@***! Sorry, but an intelligible response to that last comment would break far too many rules.
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