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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 16:23:54 GMT 1
Bit like micheal Knighton and his consortium to buy United , or many of the current premier sides looking to sell , when it comes to the show the show me the money , they are often falling short , if that's the kind of chairman you want then god help us Sure thing but by that logic, where is Roland's money? In your world if Roland was coming in now he wouldn't pass your test. I'd also argue that the combined resource of these three respected businesses with the right financing more than passes Pilch's arbitrary test of "show me the money". Edit : also for the "kind of chairman I want" I listed three well known businesses each with town supporters at their helm. I didn't bring anybody else into this debate to use a strawman. You did. Like all the other chairman , they are not coming in now , they are already there If it helps I heard they didn't have the money
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 16:45:58 GMT 1
I also heard RW keeps messing about and demanding more money, hence nobody takes him seriously. I've heard he's the joke of the footballing world around the agents, heard a few good stories from my contact up north.
With all the astrology, freemasonry and other general nonsense I feel like it's got to the point where people question if he's in full possession of his faculties.
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Post by vladimir on Oct 3, 2023 17:28:10 GMT 1
Sure thing but by that logic, where is Roland's money? In your world if Roland was coming in now he wouldn't pass your test. I'd also argue that the combined resource of these three respected businesses with the right financing more than passes Pilch's arbitrary test of "show me the money". Edit : also for the "kind of chairman I want" I listed three well known businesses each with town supporters at their helm. I didn't bring anybody else into this debate to use a strawman. You did. Like all the other chairman , they are not coming in now , they are already there If it helps I heard they didn't have the money Not quite sure what your first sentence means? As for your second, well I'm sure your sources are impeccably well informed as to why 3 highly successful businesses including one with consistent profit in the tens of millions and 9 digit turnovers can't afford a moderately sized league 1 football club, I'm sure it is nothing to do with the incumbents demands for the asset in question.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 17:40:47 GMT 1
Like all the other chairman , they are not coming in now , they are already there If it helps I heard they didn't have the money Not quite sure what your first sentence means? As for your second, well I'm sure your sources are impeccably well informed as to why 3 highly successful businesses including one with consistent profit in the tens of millions and 9 digit turnovers can't afford a moderately sized league 1 football club, I'm sure it is nothing to do with the incumbents demands for the asset in question. my first sentence, you claimed if Roland was coming in now , he not coming in now, he's already here as for the second part, you sound like Donald trump describing himself
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Post by vladimir on Oct 3, 2023 18:33:07 GMT 1
Not quite sure what your first sentence means? As for your second, well I'm sure your sources are impeccably well informed as to why 3 highly successful businesses including one with consistent profit in the tens of millions and 9 digit turnovers can't afford a moderately sized league 1 football club, I'm sure it is nothing to do with the incumbents demands for the asset in question. my first sentence, you claimed if Roland was coming in now , he not coming in now, he's already here as for the second part, you sound like Donald trump describing himself Always a non sequitor or a strawman. Not much point in a fans forum when there's no debate.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 3, 2023 22:01:32 GMT 1
I am baffled what Roland’s motivation is……..
Surely he can’t enjoy this dross, or is all about bank balances and kidding himself he has a 9-5 job in the week
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:15:26 GMT 1
I'm afraid I have changed my vote...sad face
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:16:38 GMT 1
I'm afraid I have changed my vote...sad face me too, I want him to stay now
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:19:53 GMT 1
I'm afraid I have changed my vote...sad face before tonight it was 60 v 34 its now 60 v 33 ?
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:24:48 GMT 1
Big issue we have as a club now is why would he want to sell It’s probably worth less than it has been at any point since we moved grounds. No value on the pitch, dropping crowds, no additional land to sell. Who the hell would want to pay £5m let alone 10/12m especially all those with no money to invest
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:25:05 GMT 1
Big issue we have as a club now is why would he want to sell It’s probably worth less than it has been at any point since we moved grounds. No value on the pitch, dropping crowds, no additional land to sell. Who the hell would want to pay £5m let alone 10/12m £12m would be kind, he's been asking £15m which is why it's all gone west. I just want to say thank you for your efforts in trying to save our club, it's much appreciated the work you did in what seems like impossible circumstances.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:26:33 GMT 1
Big issue we have as a club now is why would he want to sell It’s probably worth less than it has been at any point since we moved grounds. No value on the pitch, dropping crowds, no additional land to sell. Who the hell would want to pay £5m let alone 10/12m £12m would be kind, he's been asking £15m which is why it's all gone west. I just want to say thank you for your efforts in trying to save our club, it's much appreciated the work you did in what seems like impossible circumstances. do you have a link or are you making that up ?
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:45:24 GMT 1
£12m would be kind, he's been asking £15m which is why it's all gone west. I just want to say thank you for your efforts in trying to save our club, it's much appreciated the work you did in what seems like impossible circumstances. do you have a link or are you making that up ? It's in the same article where the chairman said he paid the January wages.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:47:36 GMT 1
do you have a link or are you making that up ? It's in the same article where the chairman said he paid the January wages. yes probably, can you link to it
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:48:42 GMT 1
It's in the same article where the chairman said he paid the January wages. yes probably, can you link to it Considering you've played the "he paid the wages in January" card 100s of times I'm sure you must have it bookmarked.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:56:45 GMT 1
yes probably, can you link to it Considering you've played the "he paid the wages in January" card 100s of times I'm sure you must have it bookmarked. I'm glad we got this far , no I can't prove my claims , Can you prove yours ?
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 3, 2023 22:58:28 GMT 1
Roland will do what Roland wants for himself.
Nothing we can do about it until………
Doesn’t stop fans wanting him to sell up though
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:59:05 GMT 1
Considering you've played the "he paid the wages in January" card 100s of times I'm sure you must have it bookmarked. I'm glad we got this far , no I can't prove my claims , Can you prove yours ? No.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:59:52 GMT 1
Roland will do what Roland wants for himself. Nothing we can do about it until……… Doesn’t stop fans wanting him to sell up though Here we go again , who too ? Go on name him
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:02:34 GMT 1
Roland will do what Roland wants for himself. Nothing we can do about it until……… Doesn’t stop fans wanting him to sell up though Here we go again , who too ? Go on name him Here we go again, you don't need a buyer lined up to sell your home. He'll do what's right for him and his family, but that's because ultimately he's not a fan. If he sells it for his initial investment and puts the ground and training ground in fan trust I'll personally donate £500 towards his statue.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 3, 2023 23:09:25 GMT 1
Roland will do what Roland wants for himself. Nothing we can do about it until……… Doesn’t stop fans wanting him to sell up though Here we go again , who too ? Go on name him Or them 😉
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:15:11 GMT 1
Here we go again , who too ? Go on name him Here we go again, you don't need a buyer lined up to sell your home. He'll do what's right for him and his family, but that's because ultimately he's not a fan. If he sells it for his initial investment and puts the ground and training ground in fan trust I'll personally donate £500 towards his statue. Of course , you don't need a buyer to sell your home , Why not just give it away
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:15:13 GMT 1
Here we go again , who too ? Go on name him Or them 😉 There used to be enough of them before he p**sed them all off.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:16:04 GMT 1
More pathetic bulls**t
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:18:51 GMT 1
Here we go again, you don't need a buyer lined up to sell your home. He'll do what's right for him and his family, but that's because ultimately he's not a fan. If he sells it for his initial investment and puts the ground and training ground in fan trust I'll personally donate £500 towards his statue. Of course , you don't need a buyer to sell your home , Why not just give it away If it was in the interests of the club you supposedly love, then why not? If I had his money and I was his age I'd sell the club for £1, sign the ground and training ground over to a fans trust and make the difficult decision of where I fancied my statue.
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:21:56 GMT 1
Roland would look good as a statue.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:24:42 GMT 1
Roland would look good as a statue. He may as well have been one since his "Championship within 10 years" comment back in 2007. Joking aside he's done some good things in his time, some more luck than judgement; but he's far outstayed his welcome now and it's going to get toxic before long.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:26:11 GMT 1
Of course , you don't need a buyer to sell your home , Why not just give it away If it was in the interests of the club you supposedly love, then why not? If I had his money and I was his age I'd sell the club for £1, sign the ground and training ground over to a fans trust and make the difficult decision of where I fancied my statue. To who ? Steve Dale Jeez you really can't see past the end of your own nose , if someone doesn't have the pittance of the Price He wants then Do you actually Expect Investment in the club from them , dream on you are in fantasy land , the biggest part a take over is not finding the buying fee but finding the regular investment after that, that's what's scaring them all Off ,
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:29:25 GMT 1
If it was in the interests of the club you supposedly love, then why not? If I had his money and I was his age I'd sell the club for £1, sign the ground and training ground over to a fans trust and make the difficult decision of where I fancied my statue. To who ? Steve Dale Jeez you really can't see past the end of your own nose , if someone doesn't have the pittance of the Price He wants then Do you actually Expect Investment in the club from them , dream on you are in fantasy land , the biggest part a take over is not finding the buying fee but finding the regular investment after that, that's was scaring them all Off , You've just shoehorned the worst possible owner into the debate, I could equally shoehorn one of the more successful buyouts of the last ten years into the debate, it doesn't prove anything? This is the whole point though, with modern ideas and a bit of foresight it wouldn't be a regular investment, the club would be self sufficient. On an average season we lose peanuts.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:33:06 GMT 1
Are you inventing an imaginary owner again with loads of money ? How Sad are you
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