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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 20, 2022 11:29:08 GMT 1
The selection of a new Tory leader might have gone a bit better if the members had had more to chose from. Maybe MPs knocking out the ones they felt they couldn't work with before the vote - since they decided Boris had become a liability, that would have included Boris. As it was members were left with the choice of the devil or the deep blue sea - can't see how blame can be attached to the members for what happened next. If they’d had more to choose from, the winner might have got about 40% of the votes and what sort of mandate would that be? Cannot see that members will be trusted with a vote again, which might lead to many not bothering to renew their membership. |
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 20, 2022 11:33:07 GMT 1
The selection of a new Tory leader might have gone a bit better if the members had had more to chose from. Maybe MPs knocking out the ones they felt they couldn't work with before the vote - since they decided Boris had become a liability, that would have included Boris. As it was members were left with the choice of the devil or the deep blue sea - can't see how blame can be attached to the members for what happened next. If they’d had more to choose from, the winner might have got about 40% of the votes and what sort of mandate would that be? Cannot see that members will be trusted with a vote again, which might lead to many not bothering to renew their membership. The membership rejected Hunt in 2019, but come 2022 they've ended up with him as PM nevertheless. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 11:43:07 GMT 1
If they’d had more to choose from, the winner might have got about 40% of the votes and what sort of mandate would that be? Cannot see that members will be trusted with a vote again, which might lead to many not bothering to renew their membership. The membership rejected Hunt in 2019, but come 2022 they've ended up with him as PM nevertheless. bit like labour where about 2 thirds bizarrely thought the other Jeremy was better than Andy Burnham , and then Starmer in a Putin suit was thought better than Long John Bailey and nandy pandy, and yet we all know Burnham will be there sooner rather than later |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 11:51:30 GMT 1
I'm glad none of his constituents are going on holiday, I didn't realise taking a holiday was banned. I'd imagine it is banned when Parliament is in session. Parliament only sat for 205 days in the last year - so there was plenty of time for him to go on holiday in the remaining 160 days. Leave the apologist alone... |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 11:53:34 GMT 1
So, taking your metaphor and running with it, Ricketts would be Liz Truss. You could end up being her only defender too!! 😉 funny that you mention Ricketts. glad I didn't  this is my whole point, you and the whole Labour Party are making one hell of a rod for your own backs, making a drama out of everything like most did with Ricketts and then having to make excuses for the same thing happening under a new leader is not going to be something confined to blue and amber, the majority of the country are going to be playing it if and when starmer gets in charge, this can't be good for the economy, not in the slightest. I find it totally cringe and this new game is going to kill politics if it hasn't already What has this got to do with the labour party, oh, nothing...as you were. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 20, 2022 11:59:09 GMT 1
Downing Street has confirmed that Liz Truss is currently meeting with the chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:01:16 GMT 1
funny that you mention Ricketts. glad I didn't this is my whole point, you and the whole Labour Party are making one hell of a rod for your own backs, making a drama out of everything like most did with Ricketts and then having to make excuses for the same thing happening under a new leader is not going to be something confined to blue and amber, the majority of the country are going to be playing it if and when starmer gets in charge, this can't be good for the economy, not in the slightest. I find it totally cringe and this new game is going to kill politics if it hasn't already What has this got to do with the labour party, oh, nothing...as you were. sorry to interrupt your rod making ;-) |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:01:38 GMT 1
Downing Street has confirmed that Liz Truss is currently meeting with the chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady. omg shall I pin this ?  |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 12:02:35 GMT 1
Boris is wisely keeping well out of this. He's one of those people whose reputation and popularity go up when he isn't around...
did someone just remind you how you played 'your' part in this mess  Posts were on about Boris, you seem to want to being me into the government's chaos. Are you a stalker?  |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:04:08 GMT 1
Downing Street has confirmed that Liz Truss is currently meeting with the chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady. She is meeting with the real power in the party now then. We have Sir Graham to thank for bringing the government to task over covid and repeated lockdowns etc. |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:04:50 GMT 1
What has this got to do with the labour party, oh, nothing...as you were. sorry to interrupt your rod making ;-) Still nothing... |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:06:04 GMT 1
did someone just remind you how you played 'your' part in this mess Posts were on about Boris, you seem to want to being me into the government's chaos. Are you a stalker? oh dear, first question and you run for cover screaming for your mum, you make Lizz Truss look like a gladiator |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 12:08:28 GMT 1
Posts were on about Boris, you seem to want to being me into the government's chaos. Are you a stalker? oh dear, first question and you run for cover screaming for your mum, you make Lizz Truss look like a gladiator Frankly, I don't see how my post can be interpreted as "running for cover" |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:08:38 GMT 1
Downing Street has confirmed that Liz Truss is currently meeting with the chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady. She is meeting with the real power in the party now then. We have Sir Graham to thank for bringing the government to task over covid and repeated lockdowns etc. this has nothing to do with the Labour Party ? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 12:16:39 GMT 1
She is meeting with the real power in the party now then. We have Sir Graham to thank for bringing the government to task over covid and repeated lockdowns etc. this has nothing to do with the Labour Party ? History in the making currently, but all some people can do is this. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:20:13 GMT 1
this has nothing to do with the Labour Party ? History in the making currently, but all some people can do is this. I keep forgetting this game only allows one side to attack |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:23:31 GMT 1
She is meeting with the real power in the party now then. We have Sir Graham to thank for bringing the government to task over covid and repeated lockdowns etc. this has nothing to do with the Labour Party ? Wow you are sharp, watch you don't cut yourself... Who knew that the chairman of the 1922 committee and the leader of the conservative party having a meeting has nothing to do with Labour? It's a good job Pilch is here... |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:24:17 GMT 1
History in the making currently, but all some people can do is this. I keep forgetting this game only allows one side to attack You seem to keep forgetting that this is no game. This is RL old chap. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:24:39 GMT 1
this has nothing to do with the Labour Party ? Wow you are sharp, watch you don't cut yourself... Who knew that the chairman of the 1922 committee and the leader of the conservative party having a meeting has nothing to do with Labour? It's a good job Pilch is here... still nothing......................... |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:26:03 GMT 1
Wow you are sharp, watch you don't cut yourself... Who knew that the chairman of the 1922 committee and the leader of the conservative party having a meeting has nothing to do with Labour? It's a good job Pilch is here... still nothing......................... We can all see that. No need to point out what you have... |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:30:57 GMT 1
still nothing......................... We can all see that. No need to point out what you have... still nothing...... |
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Post by kp on Oct 20, 2022 12:33:13 GMT 1
We can all see that. No need to point out what you have... still nothing...... Again, everyone can see what you have Pilch. Maybe refrain from posting until you do have something? Just a thought, something else you should try perhaps? |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 12:49:32 GMT 1
Again, everyone can see what you have Pilch. Maybe refrain from posting until you do have something? Just a thought, something else you should try perhaps? stilll nothing ...... |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 13:04:51 GMT 1
Again, everyone can see what you have Pilch. Maybe refrain from posting until you do have something? Just a thought, something else you should try perhaps? stilll nothing ...... There's that irritating little noise again while the grown ups are discussing the future of our Prime Minister. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 13:12:07 GMT 1
There's that irritating little noise again while the grown ups are discussing the future of our Prime Minister. here's where that annoying little noise originated, 'kind of made a rod for his own back without even realising it was happening' |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 13:16:07 GMT 1
There's that irritating little noise again while the grown ups are discussing the future of our Prime Minister. here's where that annoying little noise originated, 'kind of made a rod for his own back without even realising it was happening' Sometimes one should not continue to repeat something one feels was a trivial comment, so as to appear "normal". |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 13:32:45 GMT 1
here's where that annoying little noise originated, 'kind of made a rod for his own back without even realising it was happening' Sometimes one should not continue to repeat something one feels was a trivial comment, so as to appear "normal". really, ok, I was about to start 6 more threads saying the same thing, I won't bother now, maybe we could have another one about the tories instead, not had one since yesterday |
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Post by scooter on Oct 20, 2022 13:35:54 GMT 1
She’s gone 😮
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 20, 2022 13:38:11 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Oct 20, 2022 13:38:40 GMT 1
nothing on blue and amber yet, slower than shrews web |
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