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Jun 5, 2022 10:00:43 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 5, 2022 10:00:43 GMT 1
i wasn't having a pop at cotterill , just noticed no one has , and thought that had this still been 2020 there would have been a lynchmob out for whoever was in charge , tell me i'm wrong , i'm not š¤Ŗ Why when it is not the Managers fault, whoever they may be, unless you have a not very well hidden agenda about the current incumbent. The player has allegedly said he was going to sign, club report this to the press, press tell the public, player changes his mind for whatever reason and decides not to sign. Quite simple really and the only person who has done any wrong is the player himself, in my opinion and from the limited information I have to hand. Or I could just make things up, like some people regularly do when they believe their opinions to be fact, or need a bit of attention. I knew I was right, I think it was something to do with the not very well hidden agenda about the previous incumbent. in fact only last week we still have to endure posts like this on here Which dickhead let mcatee go.
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Vela
Jun 5, 2022 10:45:06 GMT 1
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 5, 2022 10:45:06 GMT 1
Why when it is not the Managers fault, whoever they may be, unless you have a not very well hidden agenda about the current incumbent. The player has allegedly said he was going to sign, club report this to the press, press tell the public, player changes his mind for whatever reason and decides not to sign. Quite simple really and the only person who has done any wrong is the player himself, in my opinion and from the limited information I have to hand. Or I could just make things up, like some people regularly do when they believe their opinions to be fact, or need a bit of attention. I knew I was right, I think it was something to do with theĀ not very well hidden agenda about the previous incumbent.Ā in fact only last week we still have to endure posts like this on here Which dickhead let mcatee go. Ah yes my constant negative views on the previous incumbent are well documented aren't they. I await your reply that is likely to be more akin to one of Jurgen Klopps interviews, or the clues in that classic game show 3 2 1
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Vela
Jun 5, 2022 10:59:42 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 5, 2022 10:59:42 GMT 1
I knew I was right, I think it was something to do with the not very well hidden agenda about the previous incumbent. in fact only last week we still have to endure posts like this on here Ah yes my constant negative views on the previous incumbent are well documented aren't they. I await your reply that is likely to be more akin to one of Jurgen Klopps interviews, or the clues in that classic game show 3 2 1 WOW
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Vela
Jun 5, 2022 13:04:43 GMT 1
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jun 5, 2022 13:04:43 GMT 1
why doesn't his agent just pop him on eBay ? Iām just thinking how can his agent also be head of recruitment for a club? Isnāt that a conflict of interest? Anyhow it looks like he has a number of suitors so doubt heāll be back here next season. Indeed. Not sure id be too happy as Fleetwood CEO if the man heavily involved in bringing a player in is also getting a cut!
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Vela
Jun 5, 2022 13:36:29 GMT 1
Post by ssshrew on Jun 5, 2022 13:36:29 GMT 1
Didnāt Joe Riley used to play for us or is it a different Joe Riley?
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Post by venceremos on Jun 5, 2022 14:05:36 GMT 1
You do know a contract doesn't have to be signed just because it's put in front of you? You can take it away for you/your agent/your lawyer/your accountant/your partner/your parents/whoever to read through before signing. Some people seem to think those contract signing photos are real. Yes I realise that, but why announce he has when he clearly hasn't and then put it in a small section under the Bennett has signed announcement hoping it wouldn't be seen after being found out yet again. Very poor, wouldn't expect this at Market Draytons level. That would be fair comment if the club had announced Vela's signing, but they didn't. They said he'd agreed terms, which was true. The Star reported him having signed, on the assumption that agreeing terms and signing a contract were the same thing, when clearly they're not. One thing seems certain - I doubt we'll see the club announce a player has agreed terms for the foreseeable future.
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Vela
Jun 5, 2022 14:32:18 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 5, 2022 14:32:18 GMT 1
I doubt we'll see the club announce a player has agreed terms for the foreseeable future. bit like last summer then
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Vela
Jun 6, 2022 8:44:46 GMT 1
Post by block12massive on Jun 6, 2022 8:44:46 GMT 1
So the Vela saga runs into another week.
Wherever he is, he must be enjoying this holiday he's on.
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Vela
Jun 6, 2022 9:16:27 GMT 1
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Post by Exkeeper on Jun 6, 2022 9:16:27 GMT 1
Didnāt Joe Riley used to play for us or is it a different Joe Riley? Same one Sheila.
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Vela
Jun 6, 2022 11:06:53 GMT 1
Post by ssshrew on Jun 6, 2022 11:06:53 GMT 1
Thanks Mark.
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Vela
Jun 7, 2022 19:36:24 GMT 1
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jun 7, 2022 19:36:24 GMT 1
Looks like vela and riley used to play together at bolton and as riley has only recently retired, I would guess he isnt necessarily his full time agent
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 8, 2022 16:43:51 GMT 1
Bye bye
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 16:54:11 GMT 1
I'm glad that's done and dusted and we can move on, without him.
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 16:54:11 GMT 1
Post by northwestman on Jun 8, 2022 16:54:11 GMT 1
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Jun 8, 2022 16:55:36 GMT 1
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jun 8, 2022 16:55:36 GMT 1
I'm glad that's done and dusted and we can move on, without him. Oh well ,time to have a bet on him getting sent off at the Meadow next season !!šš
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jun 8, 2022 17:03:46 GMT 1
3 year deal, presumably on better wages than he is on here. Hard to blame him, even if it is playing for an artificial vanity project which means it's difficult to wish him good luck. A key part of our survival in 2020/21, there's every chance we'd be floundering in mid-table L2 right now without him.
Whoops, sorry. Forgot to include these key terms to scoop up the B&A likes - #snake #s**tanyway #doesntscorelol
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 17:12:19 GMT 1
Post by kenwood on Jun 8, 2022 17:12:19 GMT 1
Thank God thatās all done and dusted . Like Boris often says, ā we can now move on ā. OR as Julius Caesar once said ( didnāt he play for Brazil at one time ? ) He came , He played , He f.cked off . You canāt beat a bit of culture . š
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 17:22:30 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 8, 2022 17:22:30 GMT 1
How many goals did he score for town, any stats men about???
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jun 8, 2022 17:37:48 GMT 1
How many goals did he score for town, any stats men about??? Indeed. Thiago and Kante are ****ing rubbish, aren't they.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jun 8, 2022 17:41:23 GMT 1
How many goals did he score for town, any stats men about??? I didnāt realise that a solid grasp of statistics was a gendered role. Iāll be sure to incorporate this into my vernacular going forwards.
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 18:13:27 GMT 1
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jun 8, 2022 18:13:27 GMT 1
3 year deal, presumably on better wages than he is on here. Hard to blame him, even if it is playing for an artificial vanity project which means it's difficult to wish him good luck. A key part of our survival in 2020/21, there's every chance we'd be floundering in mid-table L2 right now without him. Whoops, sorry. Forgot to include these key terms to scoop up the B&A likes - #snake #s**tanyway #doesntscorelol And closer to home too. Makes complete sense really. As I and many said, it was quite surprising it had appeared he had signed, as this sort of move looked quite inevitable.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 8, 2022 18:29:01 GMT 1
Vela was good for us, as was Norburn despite attempts to re-write history when he was sold. But at league one level almost every player is replaceable provided good recruitment.
Had the club not says heād agreed a deal, weād have all expected him to go, so in that respect itās quite easy to get over.
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 18:38:52 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 8, 2022 18:38:52 GMT 1
we were never likely to offer a 3 year contract, not after the way people on here have cried about Pyke on here for months oops, well done hindsighters
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 18:43:05 GMT 1
we were never likely to offer a 3 year contract, Ā not after the way people on here have cried about Pyke on here for monthsĀ oops, well done hindsightersĀ It's a fair comment. I would naturally assume our contract negotiations with Vela were based on the comments from B&A regarding us signing Rekeil Pyke
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 18:48:03 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 18:48:03 GMT 1
Anyway, yes Vela is a loss and we should certainly be concerned why a team who finished below us can attract one of our better players.
I've said a few times that Vela from 2020/2021 is a very good addition, last season less so. But we clearly wanted to keep him and its a cause for concern that we couldn't.
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 19:43:21 GMT 1
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Post by vladimir on Jun 8, 2022 19:43:21 GMT 1
Personally think it's a major loss in an area we've been worryingly shallow in for a while.
Intriguing to see who his replacement is, or whether we will get another summer of frustration with someone like Bennett being thrust in there.
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Vela
Jun 8, 2022 20:43:26 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 8, 2022 20:43:26 GMT 1
For every player we lose or release we need to find a replacement, plus another few as we were so light in numbers last year.
And based on last summer I have no confidence that it will be any better this year. Just hope I'm wrong.
Still we do have a tie up with Telford United if all else fails.....
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 8, 2022 22:14:01 GMT 1
Yep, we got Dan udoh from therešššš
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Jun 9, 2022 13:22:34 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 13:22:34 GMT 1
Had to smile at this. Do you think Fleetwood are having a bit of a laugh at our expense by saying āftfc have reached an agreement to sign Josh Velaā and not Josh Vela has signed! Iām sure we had an agreement š
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Jun 9, 2022 13:26:42 GMT 1
Post by camdenshrew on Jun 9, 2022 13:26:42 GMT 1
we were never likely to offer a 3 year contract, not after the way people on here have cried about Pyke on here for months oops, well done hindsighters Both Marosi and Shipley were signed on three-year contract after the Pyke debacle. Just let it go.
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