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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 9:50:19 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 9:50:19 GMT 1
so far we've blamed everyone bar the bloke who said he'd agreed terms 😜
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Post by callum on Jun 4, 2022 9:52:46 GMT 1
I don't blame Vela. I blame our club for being totally naïve and being caught with their pants down again. Nuffing is sealed until the contract is signed. I wouldn't like Brian Caldwell to be in charge of buying a house for me. I can just imagine him saying, "but they promised to sell the house to you". I'd probably finish up homeless on the ****ing street. Very poor and amateurish from a so called professional in his field. Hang your head in shame Caldwell, yet another in a long line of very poor decisions. Who is negotiating the contracts 3 little girls.....
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Post by shrewder on Jun 4, 2022 10:12:59 GMT 1
As none of us know the real story as to what went on , it is difficult to form an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 10:20:06 GMT 1
As none of us know the real story as to what went on , it is difficult to form an opinion. That’s not how B&A works😂👍
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 10:36:21 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 10:36:21 GMT 1
oops , the mere hint of a dig at the manager and i hear the words " objection your honour " 😜
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 4, 2022 11:22:08 GMT 1
Have Fleetwood officially announced his signing yet? I wonder if we have counter-offered? It’s obvious that SC wants him otherwise we wouldn’t have offered anything at all, never mind at the end of the season. Think all players have a maximum value (based around a clubs budget). Maybe SC sees what Vela has been offered as above the players value to Towns budget. If so he would be right to let him go. However then comes the problem of having to replace him within that budget which may or may not be so easy (especially with Towns recent track record).
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Post by barrynic on Jun 4, 2022 11:52:33 GMT 1
This Vela situation may well have cost Town upwards of 200k in a possible transfer fee if he was under contract.
But Town have history regarding contracts.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jun 4, 2022 12:09:26 GMT 1
Absolutely pathetic from the club to not just disregard the terms of the Bosman ruling and chain the boy to the dressing room walls. Shambolic.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 12:27:52 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 12:27:52 GMT 1
Absolutely pathetic from the club to not just disregard the terms of the Bosman ruling and chain the boy to the dressing room walls. Shambolic. but we are not in the EU anymore 😜 (we'll not that it matters but it won't be long before one of the big boys use that excuse in a courtroom and demand a fee )
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Post by venceremos on Jun 4, 2022 12:59:11 GMT 1
so far we've blamed everyone bar the bloke who said he'd agreed terms 😜 The grown ups haven't blamed anyone.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 4, 2022 13:02:41 GMT 1
I don't blame Vela. I blame our club for being totally naïve and being caught with their pants down again. Nuffing is sealed until the contract is signed. I wouldn't like Brian Caldwell to be in charge of buying a house for me. I can just imagine him saying, "but they promised to sell the house to you". I'd probably finish up homeless on the ****ing street. Very poor and amateurish from a so called professional in his field. Hang your head in shame Caldwell, yet another in a long line of very poor decisions. Who is negotiating the contracts 3 little girls..... You do know a contract doesn't have to be signed just because it's put in front of you? You can take it away for you/your agent/your lawyer/your accountant/your partner/your parents/whoever to read through before signing. Some people seem to think those contract signing photos are real.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 13:06:53 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 13:06:53 GMT 1
so far we've blamed everyone bar the bloke who said he'd agreed terms 😜 The grown ups haven't blamed anyone. a grown up wouldnt make such a childish remark as that pal
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 13:36:59 GMT 1
Post by venceremos on Jun 4, 2022 13:36:59 GMT 1
The grown ups haven't blamed anyone. a grown up wouldnt make such a childish remark as that pal
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 14:52:16 GMT 1
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 15:02:48 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 15:02:48 GMT 1
maybe the bull in the barne will get him ;-)
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 15:40:47 GMT 1
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Post by secretshrew on Jun 4, 2022 15:40:47 GMT 1
Shows how quickly things can change in football.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 15:51:09 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 15:51:09 GMT 1
Shows how quickly things can change in football. why doesn't his agent just pop him on eBay ?
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 4, 2022 15:56:08 GMT 1
oops , the mere hint of a dig at the manager and i hear the words " objection your honour " 😜 Plenty criticise Cotterill no objections from most…. Only thing I’d say is I’m not too keen but significantly better than the last no hoper 👍 Regarding who’s to blame here, he’s certainly in the frame although I guess getting the paper work done is down to Caldwell and dare I say Jayne Bebb who’s got history.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 15:57:30 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 15:57:30 GMT 1
so far we've blamed everyone bar the bloke who said he'd agreed terms 😜 Who was that?
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 16:00:35 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 4, 2022 16:00:35 GMT 1
so far we've blamed everyone bar the bloke who said he'd agreed terms 😜 Who was that? Whoever wrote the article for the star I'd guess?
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 16:01:27 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 4, 2022 16:01:27 GMT 1
oops , the mere hint of a dig at the manager and i hear the words " objection your honour " 😜 Plenty criticise Cotterill no objections from most…. Only thing I’d say is I’m not too keen but significantly better than the last no hoper 👍 Regarding who’s to blame here, he’s certainly in the frame although I guess getting the paper work done is down to Caldwell and dare I say Jayne Bebb who’s got history. Less said about her mishaps the better, sends a shudder down the spine thinking about it.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 16:03:39 GMT 1
Post by davycrockett on Jun 4, 2022 16:03:39 GMT 1
Shows how quickly things can change in football. why doesn't his agent just pop him on eBay ? Interestingly his agent is no other than Joe Riley the to be new Fleetwood head of recruitment “ Town’s new head of recruitment Joe Riley is Vela’s agent – a role he will relinquish once he begins to work for Fleetwood.”
Surely he’d have inside information on wages et al….. All a bit strange no doubt we’ll here something when the Shrewsbury media team get in the case.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 16:57:00 GMT 1
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Post by secretshrew on Jun 4, 2022 16:57:00 GMT 1
Shows how quickly things can change in football. why doesn't his agent just pop him on eBay ? I’m just thinking how can his agent also be head of recruitment for a club? Isn’t that a conflict of interest? Anyhow it looks like he has a number of suitors so doubt he’ll be back here next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 18:17:09 GMT 1
It would be funny if Fleetwood have also been gazumped!
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Post by callum on Jun 4, 2022 18:18:09 GMT 1
Very poor and amateurish from a so called professional in his field. Hang your head in shame Caldwell, yet another in a long line of very poor decisions. Who is negotiating the contracts 3 little girls..... You do know a contract doesn't have to be signed just because it's put in front of you? You can take it away for you/your agent/your lawyer/your accountant/your partner/your parents/whoever to read through before signing. Some people seem to think those contract signing photos are real. Yes I realise that, but why announce he has when he clearly hasn't and then put it in a small section under the Bennett has signed announcement hoping it wouldn't be seen after being found out yet again. Very poor, wouldn't expect this at Market Draytons level.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 18:41:48 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 4, 2022 18:41:48 GMT 1
oops , the mere hint of a dig at the manager and i hear the words " objection your honour " 😜 Plenty criticise Cotterill no objections from most…. Only thing I’d say is I’m not too keen but significantly better than the last no hoper 👍 Regarding who’s to blame here, he’s certainly in the frame although I guess getting the paper work done is down to Caldwell and dare I say Jayne Bebb who’s got history. i wasn't having a pop at cotterill , just noticed no one has , and thought that had this still been 2020 there would have been a lynchmob out for whoever was in charge , tell me i'm wrong , i'm not 🤪
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 19:03:41 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 4, 2022 19:03:41 GMT 1
It would be funny if Fleetwood have also been gazumped! I could accept Vela going much better if he was going to a club we would regard as up the pecking order to ourselves tbh. Fleetwood isnt such a club in my view.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 19:31:55 GMT 1
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 4, 2022 19:31:55 GMT 1
Plenty criticise Cotterill no objections from most…. Only thing I’d say is I’m not too keen but significantly better than the last no hoper 👍 Regarding who’s to blame here, he’s certainly in the frame although I guess getting the paper work done is down to Caldwell and dare I say Jayne Bebb who’s got history. i wasn't having a pop at cotterill , just noticed no one has , and thought that had this still been 2020 there would have been a lynchmob out for whoever was in charge , tell me i'm wrong , i'm not 🤪 Why when it is not the Managers fault, whoever they may be, unless you have a not very well hidden agenda about the current incumbent. The player has allegedly said he was going to sign, club report this to the press, press tell the public, player changes his mind for whatever reason and decides not to sign. Quite simple really and the only person who has done any wrong is the player himself, in my opinion and from the limited information I have to hand. Or I could just make things up, like some people regularly do when they believe their opinions to be fact, or need a bit of attention.
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 19:41:46 GMT 1
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Post by returnofthehype on Jun 4, 2022 19:41:46 GMT 1
From what I can dissect from the all the usual over reaction and hysteria is that a player, bang average one at that, has decided to move on.
What is all the fuss about other than a player changing his mind?? We moan when the club doesn’t announce any contract updates, we moan when we do “in case we alert other clubs” and we moan when they announce something they believed to be the case and ultimately may well have been wrong.
If they announced he was still to sign, would that have been the answer???
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Vela
Jun 4, 2022 19:41:47 GMT 1
Post by tdk on Jun 4, 2022 19:41:47 GMT 1
As none of us know the real story as to what went on , it is difficult to form an opinion. That’s not how B&A works😂👍 Mark Twain said, “never let the truth get in the way of a good story”
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