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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 13:19:25 GMT 1
even starmer had turned ,
having just listened to pmqs i deduced the following
no longer does he ask boris to resign like he used to every 5 minutes
he's finally seen the light and realised his best chance is with boris staying in charge
yours mystic meg 🔮 😜
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Post by blazey on Jul 6, 2022 13:21:53 GMT 1
Answered your own question there though haven't you? The guy has a laundry list of gaffs and whatever the opposite of a laundry list of achievements is. Future Fit, Relief Road, more trains to Birmingham, stopping the incinerator. Genuinely struggling to think of any causes he promised to bring his "influence" to bear on where he actually achieved anything and that's before we get started on the apologism for Saudi war crimes on newsnight, drunken abuse of the homeless, "revisionist" history about the Marshall plan, confusion over where lemons come from, his plagiarised book on Gaddafi, his reputation as "the very stupidest of all MPs" amongst other issues. Definitely picked the wrong table to play that hand at because it's safe to say Daniel's reputation amongst local people here has absolutely nothing to do with his minority status. You make perfectly valid points but you've missed one vital one. His vote share has increased with every election. Granted, I take the point that you could put a blue rosette on a turkey in Shrewsbury and it would still probably hold the seat but his "reputation amongst local people" should really be narrowed to "his reputation on this forum" - of which we know is hardly a representative cross-section of society. Just devil's advocate and all that. His vote share has loosely tracked the Tory national vote share, which by and large has been trending upwards since he was first elected in 2005. I would argue given the current demographics of the Shrewsbury and Atcham seat, you would actually expect his majority to be a lot more substantial eg: he underperforms the national Tory vote in a similar/reverse way that Andy Burnham outperforms the National Labour vote in a Greater Manchester. From memory, S&A is somewhere in the region of the 100th most marginal seats, Labour need to win it to form a majority government. As Frankwell has commented, boundary changes and the changing demographics of the town mean I don’t think DK can rely on the blue rosette alone going forward.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 13:34:43 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10987471/Sajid-Javid-delivers-vicious-parting-shot-Boris-Johnson.htmlSajid Javid today delivered a vicious parting shot at Boris Johnson saying the 'team is only as good as the team captain'. In a personal statement to the Commons immediately after PMQs, watched in silence by Mr Johnson, the former health secretary said that maintaining 'honesty and integrity matters. He said he had spent many months giving Mr Johnson the 'benefit of the doubt', but insisted there was a point when 'enough is enough'. Saying that ministers had been repeatedly send out to defend lines that 'don't hold up', Mr Javid made clear the Chris Pincher crisis had been the final straw. 'This week again, we have reason to question the truth and integrity of what we've all been told. And at some point we have to conclude that enough is enough,' he said. 'I believe that point is now.' In a stark message to ministers who have decided to stay in place, Mr Javid said 'not doing something is an active decision'.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 13:40:47 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10987471/Sajid-Javid-delivers-vicious-parting-shot-Boris-Johnson.htmlSajid Javid today delivered a vicious parting shot at Boris Johnson saying the 'team is only as good as the team captain'. In a personal statement to the Commons immediately after PMQs, watched in silence by Mr Johnson, the former health secretary said that maintaining 'honesty and integrity matters. He said he had spent many months giving Mr Johnson the 'benefit of the doubt', but insisted there was a point when 'enough is enough'. Saying that ministers had been repeatedly send out to defend lines that 'don't hold up', Mr Javid made clear the Chris Pincher crisis had been the final straw. 'This week again, we have reason to question the truth and integrity of what we've all been told. And at some point we have to conclude that enough is enough,' he said. 'I believe that point is now.' In a stark message to ministers who have decided to stay in place, Mr Javid said 'not doing something is an active decision'. i interpreted it as him taking the opportunity to him to paint himself as innocent , force boris out and hope he can flying back as a pm contender in the near future , quite cunning really , but all points to self interest
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 14:15:50 GMT 1
Robert Jenrick, the former communities secretary, has declared that he now wants Boris Johnson to quit.
In 2019 Johnson’s leadership campaign received a significant boost when Jenrick, Rishi Sunak and Oliver Dowden wrote a joint article for the Times saying only Johnson as leader could save the party from the “deep peril” it was in. The article was influential because all three were seen as rising stars in the parliamentary party, and none of them were obvious Johnsonites.
Now all three have abandoned him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2022 14:19:35 GMT 1
Head in arms time at the moment to be honest.
Dark days for British politics.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 6, 2022 15:33:34 GMT 1
Head in arms time at the moment to be honest. Dark days for British politics. Dark days for British politics but absolutely required, and Johnson deserves such a humiliating and degrading exit. Hopefully he fades into political obscurity and the Tories manage to sort themselves out and manage to a least form a semi-competent and less dishonourable government to take us to the next election.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 6, 2022 16:12:18 GMT 1
Put it this way. If he doesn’t go now, he never will in this Parliament.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 6, 2022 16:33:33 GMT 1
Michael Goves turned so can’t be long now…..
wonder if the new PM will like Boris’s decor style?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 6, 2022 16:59:30 GMT 1
Nadhim Zahawi to tell Johnson to resign - when you think you’ve heard it all 😂
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jul 6, 2022 16:59:55 GMT 1
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Post by kenwood on Jul 6, 2022 17:02:44 GMT 1
A load of cabinet ministers waiting to see him to request that he resign for the good of the party and the country . Big question -,will he go because he seems very bullish in front of the parliamentary committee .
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 6, 2022 17:04:42 GMT 1
Head in arms time at the moment to be honest. Dark days for British politics. It’s Boris who has dragged British politics into the gutter. When he is forced to resign, it will be a great day for the country, and we can restart to hopefully rebuild some integrity. He has also dragged the country’s reputation internationally down the drain.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 6, 2022 17:05:42 GMT 1
A load of cabinet ministers waiting to see him to request that he resign for the good of the party and the country . Big question -,will he go because he seems very bullish in front of the parliamentary committee . If he doesn’t, I expect them all to resign on mass.
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Post by kl8-2 on Jul 6, 2022 17:07:21 GMT 1
That's it for me, we must stick with Big Dog.
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Post by kenwood on Jul 6, 2022 17:11:09 GMT 1
I’ve just seen / heard this thanks to your link . It’s bloody unbelievable , the blokes a complete clown 🤡 If he continues to represent our constituency at the next election I give up , surely no, it can’t happen. Great clip cheggers , thanks for posting 👍
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 17:15:56 GMT 1
A group of Cabinet ministers - including the new Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi - is planning to confront Boris Johnson this evening and tell him that he must step down as Prime Minister.
The Telegraph understands that Brandon Lewis, the Northern Ireland Secretary, Grant Shapps, the Transport Secretary, and Simon Hart, the Welsh Secretary, are among those who are preparing to make the intervention.
Mr Zahawi and the new Education Secretary Michelle Donelan are also understood to be involved, with the push against the PM being coordinated by Chief Whip Chris Heaton-Harris.
Kwasi Kwarteng, the Business Secretary, is understood to have spoken to Mr Heaton-Harris earlier today on the phone to tell him that he believes Mr Johnson should resign.
It comes as Mr Johnson continues to suffer a brutal wave of resignations, with 35 Tory MPs having left Government roles in the last 24 hours.
Mr Johnson told MPs at PMQs that he intends to "keep going" despite mounting Tory calls for him to resign.
Daily Telegraph.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 17:17:35 GMT 1
Boris Johnson was asked by Labour MP Meg Hillier during the Liaison Committee evidence session what 148 plus 32 is.
Ms Hillier, referring to the votes against the Prime Minister at last month's confidence vote and the number of ministerial resignations in the last 24 hours, told him it is 180 – more than half of his Parliamentary party.
"It's not looking very good, is it?" she asked.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 6, 2022 17:22:53 GMT 1
Danny boy really is as thick as they come.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 6, 2022 17:40:57 GMT 1
I bet it's a high powered one as well, none of this namby pamby speed limited EU rubbish.
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Post by camdenshrew on Jul 6, 2022 18:10:37 GMT 1
Desperate Dan shows his woeful judgement again by one of the last Tory MPs to stand by Johnson. Dan, no matter how much you suck up to him, he's not going to give you a seat in the Cabinet. Even he can see how s**te you are.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 6, 2022 18:18:30 GMT 1
This just in from our political correspondent Mhari Aurora...
A Conservative MP has told her that at a 1922 Committee meeting of Tory backbenchers, only one MP (Daniel Kawczynski) made a "positive intervention" for Boris Johnson.
Not great numbers, considering there were roughly 150 MPs there.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 18:30:14 GMT 1
Head in arms time at the moment to be honest. Dark days for British politics. It’s Boris who has dragged British politics into the gutter. When he is forced to resign, it will be a great day for the country, and we can restart to hopefully rebuild some integrity. He has also dragged the country’s reputation internationally down the drain. surely you mean start slating whoever takes over, because that's all that will happen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2022 18:45:10 GMT 1
It’s Boris who has dragged British politics into the gutter. When he is forced to resign, it will be a great day for the country, and we can restart to hopefully rebuild some integrity. He has also dragged the country’s reputation internationally down the drain. surely you mean start slating whoever takes over, because that's all that will happen I think you’re wrong. I think most people have always been happy arguing policy, and let’s be honest there’s been some heated debate about that. No one, and I do mean no one, has ever invited ridicule criticism and bile upon themselves like johnson has on so many levels in such proportions.
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Post by blazey on Jul 6, 2022 18:56:02 GMT 1
This just in from our political correspondent Mhari Aurora... A Conservative MP has told her that at a 1922 Committee meeting of Tory backbenchers, only one MP (Daniel Kawczynski) made a "positive intervention" for Boris Johnson. Not great numbers, considering there were roughly 150 MPs there. Embarrassing, toadying behaviour by DK, still looking for a promotion from Trade envoy for Mongolia....
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 18:59:51 GMT 1
surely you mean start slating whoever takes over, because that's all that will happen I think you’re wrong. I think most people have always been happy arguing policy, and let’s be honest there’s been some heated debate about that. No one, and I do mean no one, has ever invited ridicule criticism and bile upon themselves like johnson has on so many levels in such proportions. what's happening in parliament would be deemed as bullying in the workplace if it happened anywhere else would you quit if you a, thought you were going a great job ? b, have done some great things during covid c, stats are very good here and there but several colleagues keep mocking you non stop the real shambles is the system we have for election/de-election its like watching a circus
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jul 6, 2022 19:48:12 GMT 1
Have to say I like the way Boris Johnson is insisting each minister tells him individually to his face they are tending their resignations/ think Boris has to resign.
They are all self serving hypocrites, even Javids speech at PMQT became a pitch for Being Party Leader himself.
If they think they will save the Tory party now prior to the next election they are in fantasy land
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2022 19:52:50 GMT 1
I think you’re wrong. I think most people have always been happy arguing policy, and let’s be honest there’s been some heated debate about that. No one, and I do mean no one, has ever invited ridicule criticism and bile upon themselves like johnson has on so many levels in such proportions. what's happening in parliament would be deemed as bullying in the workplace if it happened anywhere else What’s happening in parliament would have ended months ago in someone being sacked for deception with possible criminal charges if it happened anywhere else.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 6, 2022 20:24:27 GMT 1
Being reported that Boris refuses to quit. He really is the pits. I hope Zadawi and all the others now resign, so he’s left a cabinet of Dorries and Rees-Mogg.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 20:35:02 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10987817/Gove-tells-PM-claims-Chief-Whip-believes-game-up.htmlBoris Johnson brazenly refused to quit tonight despite a titanic showdown with Tory backbench chief Graham Brady and a delegation of top ministers. Behind the famous black door of No10, the PM has been struggling with Sir Graham and senior figures including chief whip Chris Heaton-Harris - who warned him that the 'game is up' after a tidal wave of Tory resignations crippled the government. But an unapologetic PM shocked Sir Graham and the ministers by telling them he is going nowhere, effectively daring them to call another confidence vote and saying he will focus on the 'hugely important issues facing the country'. There are claims he has told friends 'if you are going to die, go down fighting'. No surprise there then! Entitled narcissistic sociopath.
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