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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jul 5, 2022 22:41:03 GMT 1
Thoughts with Pilch on this tough evening, worst night for him since the last incompetent Tory in a position he wasn't qualified for was given the boot months after he should have been.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 5, 2022 22:54:33 GMT 1
Thoughts with Pilch on this tough evening, worst night for him since the last incompetent Tory in a position he wasn't qualified for was given the boot months after he should have been. you are clueless man, I don't vote tory, have never voted tory, never will, I love to wind people up on here and you have just proved how gullible you are, best night I've have for a while , thanks chap
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Post by shrewder on Jul 6, 2022 5:35:49 GMT 1
Boris being the selfish individual that he is will continue to put himself before party and country. He will not do the honourable thing and resign but will hang on to the post of PM to the bitter end.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 6, 2022 6:15:21 GMT 1
Thoughts with Pilch on this tough evening, worst night for him since the last incompetent Tory in a position he wasn't qualified for was given the boot months after he should have been. you are clueless man, I don't vote tory, have never voted tory, never will, I love to wind people up on here and you have just proved how gullible you are, best night I've have for a while , thanks chap That’s why no one takes you seriously.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 7:01:28 GMT 1
you are clueless man, I don't vote tory, have never voted tory, never will, I love to wind people up on here and you have just proved how gullible you are, best night I've have for a while , thanks chap That’s why no one takes you seriously. how come you've not moaned about brexit since starmer announced he'll carry on making it work if he gets in ?
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 7:03:18 GMT 1
you are clueless man, I don't vote tory, have never voted tory, never will, I love to wind people up on here and you have just proved how gullible you are, best night I've have for a while , thanks chap That’s why no one takes you seriously. bob did in his sad post that he thought he'd single someone out to ridicule them behind their back 🤣 how come you've not moaned about brexit since starmer announced he'll carry on making it work if he gets in ?
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 6, 2022 7:29:17 GMT 1
That’s why no one takes you seriously. bob did 🤣 how come you've not moaned about brexit since starmer announced he'll carry on making it work if he gets in ? Starmer has precisely zero chance of winning the next election outright, so will have to make a deal with the LibDems and the other smaller parties to even stand a chance of getting into Downing Street, therefore he can say whatever he wants about Brexit, it WILL be part of the negotiations. Fwiw even though I can't stand the bloke, I think he would at least try to find a way to come to some sort of agreement with Europe and be a lot less confrontational than Johnson. No-one is saying that it will be a walk in the park and it's highly unlikely that we would be joining the single market or customs union in the next parliament or even the one after that, but surely a closer working relationship with our nearest and largest market is preferable to the shambles we are currently seeing. You say you have never voted Tory and I am prepared to believe that, because you have also said that you rarely vote at all. I find it funny that someone who doesn't bother to use his political voice when it matters is always on here expressing their political opinions. Did you vote for or against strike action last week BTW? Or did you abstain on that too? I bet you won't turn down any pay rise that your workmates gain for you through standing up to the bosses though will you? Please feel free to selectively quote this post and trawl back through the last decade or so to find a random post I made to argue your point.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jul 6, 2022 7:37:50 GMT 1
Best news yesterday is that Sunak has f***ed off
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 8:35:43 GMT 1
bob did 🤣 how come you've not moaned about brexit since starmer announced he'll carry on making it work if he gets in ? Starmer has precisely zero chance of winning the next election outright, so will have to make a deal with the LibDems and the other smaller parties to even stand a chance of getting into Downing Street, therefore he can say whatever he wants about Brexit, it WILL be part of the negotiations. Fwiw even though I can't stand the bloke, I think he would at least try to find a way to come to some sort of agreement with Europe and be a lot less confrontational than Johnson. No-one is saying that it will be a walk in the park and it's highly unlikely that we would be joining the single market or customs union in the next parliament or even the one after that, but surely a closer working relationship with our nearest and largest market is preferable to the shambles we are currently seeing. You say you have never voted Tory and I am prepared to believe that, because you have also said that you rarely vote at all. I find it funny that someone who doesn't bother to use his political voice when it matters is always on here expressing their political opinions. Did you vote for or against strike action last week BTW? Or did you abstain on that too? I bet you won't turn down any pay rise that your workmates gain for you through standing up to the bosses though will you? Please feel free to selectively quote this post and trawl back through the last decade or so to find a random post I made to argue your point. what i did last week is none of your business and what happens is out of my control , you know that but still try to make out it's all about me 😜
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Post by kenwood on Jul 6, 2022 8:39:40 GMT 1
I see that our MP , the political heavyweight Danny K , has come out in support of Big Dog Johnson. That’s it then , with support like that the blond ball bag is home and dry. I expect Danny K to rise up the ranks in fine style , well, if Mad Nad can, anyone can . The Greasy Piglet will survive and those left in his cabinet will continue to swear their undying love , simply because they realise that with anyone of substance in charge their days in the sun would be over . Onward and Upward for Boris 😂😂😉
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 6, 2022 8:58:10 GMT 1
Starmer has precisely zero chance of winning the next election outright, so will have to make a deal with the LibDems and the other smaller parties to even stand a chance of getting into Downing Street, therefore he can say whatever he wants about Brexit, it WILL be part of the negotiations. Fwiw even though I can't stand the bloke, I think he would at least try to find a way to come to some sort of agreement with Europe and be a lot less confrontational than Johnson. No-one is saying that it will be a walk in the park and it's highly unlikely that we would be joining the single market or customs union in the next parliament or even the one after that, but surely a closer working relationship with our nearest and largest market is preferable to the shambles we are currently seeing. You say you have never voted Tory and I am prepared to believe that, because you have also said that you rarely vote at all. I find it funny that someone who doesn't bother to use his political voice when it matters is always on here expressing their political opinions. Did you vote for or against strike action last week BTW? Or did you abstain on that too? I bet you won't turn down any pay rise that your workmates gain for you through standing up to the bosses though will you? Please feel free to selectively quote this post and trawl back through the last decade or so to find a random post I made to argue your point. what i did last week is none of your business and what happens is out of my control , you know that but still try to make out it's all about me 😜 You are the one making this thread and pretty much every other thread about you. All you ever do is pipe up about everything, even if you don't have or can't even form about it. You're like a 3 year old trying to join a university debating team, nothing of substance, just a lot of random noise. You are right about what you did last week being none of my business though, I'll give you that, but on the other hand someone that can't be bothered to get off their 'arris to vote has no business on a thread about politics.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 6, 2022 9:34:10 GMT 1
I see that our MP , the political heavyweight Danny K , has come out in support of Big Dog Johnson. That’s it then , with support like that the blond ball bag is home and dry. I expect Danny K to rise up the ranks in fine style , well, if Mad Nad can, anyone can . The Greasy Piglet will survive and those left in his cabinet will continue to swear their undying love , simply because they realise that with anyone of substance in charge their days in the sun would be over . Onward and Upward for Boris 😂😂😉 Indeed. The one good thing is that at least we will now know who are the MPs with integrity and those who don’t give a damn about anything but themselves. Sorting them out at last.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 9:34:21 GMT 1
what i did last week is none of your business and what happens is out of my control , you know that but still try to make out it's all about me 😜 You are the one making this thread and pretty much every other thread about you. All you ever do is pipe up about everything, even if you don't have or can't even form about it. You're like a 3 year old trying to join a university debating team, nothing of substance, just a lot of random noise. You are right about what you did last week being none of my business though, I'll give you that, but on the other hand someone that can't be bothered to get off their 'arris to vote has no business on a thread about politics. the thread is about parliament but i logged on last night to discover the conversation was about me, so sorry if i replied to that , but hey a lurking opportunist saw a chance to join in with the personal crap , maybe what i say about politics makes sense and you can't actually handle that , have a nice day 👍
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 6, 2022 9:38:25 GMT 1
I see that our MP , the political heavyweight Danny K , has come out in support of Big Dog Johnson. That’s it then , with support like that the blond ball bag is home and dry. I expect Danny K to rise up the ranks in fine style , well, if Mad Nad can, anyone can . The Greasy Piglet will survive and those left in his cabinet will continue to swear their undying love , simply because they realise that with anyone of substance in charge their days in the sun would be over . Onward and Upward for Boris 😂😂😉 Glad Danny K has shown his support and hinted at the new chancellors change in direction ( bumper give away) to bring back Boris’s popularity.. Where in the money 🤑🤑
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 6, 2022 10:37:17 GMT 1
I notice in the Star that Telford MP Lucy Allen (Loopy Lucy as I heard her called in Telford), has now changed sides and announced that she no longer supports Blo-Jo.
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Post by block12massive on Jul 6, 2022 10:44:43 GMT 1
I wonder what it is about having a bisexual second generation immigrant as our MP that riles certain people up so much.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 11:05:32 GMT 1
I wonder what it is about having a bisexual second generation immigrant as our MP that riles certain people up so much. that's the first time ive heard anyone mention his sex orientation on here , i don't think that makes any difference does it ? the guy is a selfish idiot who does nothing for shrewsbury
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Post by block12massive on Jul 6, 2022 11:21:27 GMT 1
I wonder what it is about having a bisexual second generation immigrant as our MP that riles certain people up so much. that's the first time ive heard anyone mention his sex orientation on here , i don't think that makes any difference does it ? the guy is a selfish idiot who does nothing for shrewsbury I don't know enough of what he's done or hasn't done to pass judgement but it just seems curious that's all.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 6, 2022 11:40:06 GMT 1
that's the first time ive heard anyone mention his sex orientation on here , i don't think that makes any difference does it ? the guy is a selfish idiot who does nothing for shrewsbury I don't know enough of what he's done or hasn't done to pass judgement but it just seems curious that's all. Answered your own question there though haven't you? The guy has a laundry list of gaffs and whatever the opposite of a laundry list of achievements is. Future Fit, Relief Road, more trains to Birmingham, stopping the incinerator. Genuinely struggling to think of any causes he promised to bring his "influence" to bear on where he actually achieved anything and that's before we get started on the apologism for Saudi war crimes on newsnight, drunken abuse of the homeless, "revisionist" history about the Marshall plan, confusion over where lemons come from, his plagiarised book on Gaddafi, his reputation as "the very stupidest of all MPs" amongst other issues. Definitely picked the wrong table to play that hand at because it's safe to say Daniel's reputation amongst local people here has absolutely nothing to do with his minority status.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 6, 2022 11:41:21 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on Jul 6, 2022 11:47:56 GMT 1
I don't know enough of what he's done or hasn't done to pass judgement but it just seems curious that's all. Answered your own question there though haven't you? The guy has a laundry list of gaffs and whatever the opposite of a laundry list of achievements is. Future Fit, Relief Road, more trains to Birmingham, stopping the incinerator. Genuinely struggling to think of any causes he promised to bring his "influence" to bear on where he actually achieved anything and that's before we get started on the apologism for Saudi war crimes on newsnight, drunken abuse of the homeless, "revisionist" history about the Marshall plan, confusion over where lemons come from, his plagiarised book on Gaddafi, his reputation as "the very stupidest of all MPs" amongst other issues. Definitely picked the wrong table to play that hand at because it's safe to say Daniel's reputation amongst local people here has absolutely nothing to do with his minority status. You make perfectly valid points but you've missed one vital one. His vote share has increased with every election. Granted, I take the point that you could put a blue rosette on a turkey in Shrewsbury and it would still probably hold the seat but his "reputation amongst local people" should really be narrowed to "his reputation on this forum" - of which we know is hardly a representative cross-section of society. Just devil's advocate and all that.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 6, 2022 11:53:59 GMT 1
Answered your own question there though haven't you? The guy has a laundry list of gaffs and whatever the opposite of a laundry list of achievements is. Future Fit, Relief Road, more trains to Birmingham, stopping the incinerator. Genuinely struggling to think of any causes he promised to bring his "influence" to bear on where he actually achieved anything and that's before we get started on the apologism for Saudi war crimes on newsnight, drunken abuse of the homeless, "revisionist" history about the Marshall plan, confusion over where lemons come from, his plagiarised book on Gaddafi, his reputation as "the very stupidest of all MPs" amongst other issues. Definitely picked the wrong table to play that hand at because it's safe to say Daniel's reputation amongst local people here has absolutely nothing to do with his minority status. You make perfectly valid points but you've missed one vital one. His vote share has increased with every election. Granted, I take the point that you could put a blue rosette on a turkey in Shrewsbury and it would still probably hold the seat but his "reputation amongst local people" should really be narrowed to "his reputation on this forum" - of which we know is hardly a representative cross-section of society. Just devil's advocate and all that. When I say "local people" in this context I mean people in the county town (given ee are talking about Shrewsbury Town, not Shropshire FC). If you look at the make up of Shrewsbury Town Council, off the top of my head there's 18 or 19 wards (?) and it typically splits a third tory, a third Labour and a third green/Liberal (fluctuating a seat or two in any direction). The rural parishes that surround Shrewsbury but make up part of the parliamentary constituency (places like, say, Pontesbury, Hanwood etc) are pretty much solid blue. It's those areas that tend to carry the vote and this is why you're far more likely to see Daniel campaigning out in Pulverbatch village hall than you are in town, where he's often heckled and is quite unpopular. Edit; looks like I'd actually forgotten how much a battering the tories at the last set of local elections. Shrewsbury now currently only has 2 Conservative councillors. Clear indication of a general disenfranchisement of the county town with Conservative politics Think I'm right in saying that Shrewsbury is one of the areas with a proposed boundary redraw which would effectively push the "and Atcham" bit to south Shropshire, hence why it's seen as a possible battleground seat in a prospective election.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 11:59:11 GMT 1
that's the first time ive heard anyone mention his sex orientation on here , i don't think that makes any difference does it ? the guy is a selfish idiot who does nothing for shrewsbury Historic moment here; absolutely spot on from pilch there i think you'll find i've criticised him on here for over a decade
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Post by blazey on Jul 6, 2022 12:00:05 GMT 1
I wonder what it is about having a bisexual second generation immigrant as our MP that riles certain people up so much. Yes, all of DKs critics are racists and homophobes. That’s definitely it.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 6, 2022 12:01:44 GMT 1
Historic moment here; absolutely spot on from pilch there i think you'll find i've criticised him on here for over a decade I know pilch, it was just a spot of humour
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2022 12:28:41 GMT 1
The debate about how Tory MPs might force out Boris Johnson focuses on the notion that elections to the 1922 Committee executive next week could lead to the election of an executive with an anti-Johnson majority that will change the rules and allow another no confidence vote, perhaps before the summer recess or in the autumn.
But, under another scenario, Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee goes to Johnson and tells him that he has already lost the support of a majority of MPs and that he would be best off quitting without a second vote. This is broadly what happened with Theresa May, who announced her resignation after being told that, if she didn’t, the 1922 Committee would schedule a second no confidence vote.
The Guardian.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 6, 2022 12:29:29 GMT 1
i think you'll find i've criticised him on here for over a decade I know pilch, it was just a spot of humour of course but i thought i'd clarify it for the gullible ones on here who appear once an month and jump to the wrong conclusions
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Post by shrewder on Jul 6, 2022 12:59:41 GMT 1
One of Boris's biggest supporters our local MP Robin Walker has resigned from his job in Government. This surely is the end for Boris
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jul 6, 2022 13:08:05 GMT 1
One of Boris's biggest supporters our local MP Robin Walker has resigned from his job in Government. This surely is the end for Boris Reminiscent of when Margaret Thatcher was ousted be her party. The Conservatives over a decade to recover and the same applies now.
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