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Post by Minormorris64 on May 13, 2021 14:23:22 GMT 1
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Post by servernaside on May 13, 2021 15:00:57 GMT 1
You shouldn't be commenting on Liberal Democrat sleaze, only allegations of Tory sleaze are allowed on this site. |
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Post by northwestman on May 13, 2021 15:09:05 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:15:15 GMT 1
You shouldn't be commenting on Liberal Democrat sleaze, only allegations of Tory sleaze are allowed on this site. Spot the difference. He has apologized. Meanwhile, I believe Starmer has in the past apologized for misleading parliament but no such utterances from the Tory front bench even when they have found to be at fault. All we get from Johnson is him trying to weasel his way out about the flat decorations without actually answering the exact question. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:18:25 GMT 1
Matt Hancock makes no apologies for failing to declare all his contracts within the timescale saying all his time was spent saving the world, or something along those lines.
Tim Farron apologises for not declaring donations within the timescale despite being ill in the period, because rules still apply.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on May 13, 2021 15:20:18 GMT 1
"The commissioner said a referral to the Standards Committee was "not necessary" as Mr Farron had apologised, rectified the delay and agreed for the donations to be added to the register."
Case closed, shut the thread.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 13, 2021 16:40:05 GMT 1
Prostitutes, fake suicides, hit men? The 70's win hands down...👍 |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 16:55:45 GMT 1
Probably slipped his mind or something. Let’s be honest, if any of us where given £50k it would be easily forgettable 👍
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Post by servernaside on May 13, 2021 16:58:14 GMT 1
You shouldn't be commenting on Liberal Democrat sleaze, only allegations of Tory sleaze are allowed on this site. Spot the difference. He has apologized. Meanwhile, I believe Starmer has in the past apologized for misleading parliament but no such utterances from the Tory front bench even when they have found to be at fault. All we get from Johnson is him trying to weasel his way out about the flat decorations without actually answering the exact question. Ah! Labour and the Lib Dems are such paragons of virtue. |
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Post by venceremos on May 13, 2021 17:07:15 GMT 1
Spot the difference. He has apologized. Meanwhile, I believe Starmer has in the past apologized for misleading parliament but no such utterances from the Tory front bench even when they have found to be at fault. All we get from Johnson is him trying to weasel his way out about the flat decorations without actually answering the exact question. Ah! Labour and the Lib Dems are such paragons of virtue. Yes, by comparison with the Tories, well spotted. "The grabbing hands grab all they can Everything counts in large amounts" |
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Post by Mortgagehound on May 13, 2021 17:13:47 GMT 1
Yawn yawn yawn
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 17:54:40 GMT 1
All I can say is thank the lord no tories have yet been caught eating a bacon butty. |
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Post by ssshrew on May 13, 2021 18:03:17 GMT 1
The question is which comes first? Do people enter Parliament because they are basically sleazy in the first place or is the temptation and culture so blatant that they fall into it with ease?
Either is worrying.
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Post by northwestman on May 13, 2021 18:07:24 GMT 1
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Post by venceremos on May 13, 2021 18:58:35 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 19:30:16 GMT 1
Definition of sleaze: immoral, sordid and corrupt behaviour or activities.
I’m not sure missing a deadline, apologising for it and promptly doing what he was supposed to do particularly meets that definition. Especially not on the day a former prime minister has been answering questions about some rather questionable lobbying.
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Post by Mortgagehound on May 13, 2021 19:37:20 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 19:56:37 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party Like you never join in the debate😂👍 |
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Post by cabanas2017 on May 13, 2021 20:04:35 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party They are quite noisy as a minority in what has always been a Tory Town with the exception of when Paul Marsden getting in for Tony Blair’s government until he jumped ship to the Lib Dem’s..... |
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 14, 2021 9:46:15 GMT 1
A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party They are quite noisy as a minority in what has always been a Tory Town with the exception of when Paul Marsden getting in for Tony Blair’s government until he jumped ship to the Lib Dem’s..... we make up for our lack of numbers with the quality of our debate .   |
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Post by northwestman on May 14, 2021 10:02:29 GMT 1
They are quite noisy as a minority in what has always been a Tory Town with the exception of when Paul Marsden getting in for Tony Blair’s government until he jumped ship to the Lib Dem’s..... we make up for our lack of numbers with the quality of our debate . And if we are talking about sleaze, what about one of our Shrewsbury ex Tory MPs, Derek Conway, later on MP for Old Bexley and Sidcup? In January 2008, Conway announced that he would stand down at the next general election after a Commons standards committee found that he had employed his son Freddie, a full-time student at Newcastle University, as a political researcher using public funds, despite there being no record of his son doing any work at Westminster. As a result, Conservative Party leader David Cameron withdrew the whip from Conway, effectively expelling him from the Parliamentary Conservative group. He received considerable criticism from the press concerning the misuse of funds. Conway employed his son Freddie as a part-time researcher, while Freddie was on a full-time degree course at the University of Newcastle. Conway paid his son the part-time equivalent of a £25,970 salary, amounting to a sum in excess of £40,000 over three years, including pension contributions. The ruling did not involve the elder son, Henry Conway, as he was not the subject of the original complaint, but John Lyon, who had recently taken on the post of Parliamentary commissioner for standards, received complaints about similar payments to Henry while he was also a student and doing the "job" which Freddie took over. Lyon decided a complaint from Duncan Borrowman merited investigation. On 29 January 2009, almost a year after the previous report, a further report was published by the House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee into the employment of Mr Conway's elder son Henry. There was some evidence of Henry working for his salary, but his father was ordered to pay back £3,758 which had been overpaid and to write a letter of apology to the chairman of the committee. In May 2009 as part of its Disclosure of expenses of British Members of Parliament, the Sunday Telegraph revealed that Conway had claimed the Second Home Allowance on a house in Northumberland 330 miles from his constituency. Wiki. |
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Post by scooter on May 14, 2021 10:16:29 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party Perhaps you need to look back to who started this thread 😃 |
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Post by servernaside on May 14, 2021 10:18:57 GMT 1
Ah! Labour and the Lib Dems are such paragons of virtue. Yes, by comparison with the Tories, well spotted. "The grabbing hands grab all they can Everything counts in large amounts" One day you'll take your blinkers off. |
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 14, 2021 10:45:33 GMT 1
Mandelson resigning twice from the Cabinet because of fishy practices and now touring the TV and radio studios pontificating on the Labour Party. But at least he did resign. Perhaps so he could spend more time with Epstein.
Campbell interviewing Blair on GMB. My days. Blair's response to a thorough review that showed the Iraq War was a s**t show was to stand up and say he would have done exactly the same again. That prefigures Johnson response to the COVID enquiry that his recent announcement guarantees will report after the next GE.
But at least Blair had the sense of responsibility of looking after his own children without trying to get Conservative Party donors to cough up. £160,000 p.a. and he can't afford to look after his own kids.
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Post by davycrockett on May 14, 2021 11:04:05 GMT 1
Seems the number of Sleaze s candles has risen decade on decade with the 2000 onwards full if sleaze including our own Derek Conway (spit) |
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Post by venceremos on May 14, 2021 12:44:15 GMT 1
What would it take to rouse you from your slumbering, semi-comatose state, I wonder? Nothing bothers you as long as it once wore a blue rosette. Sweet dreams. A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party Then it might be an idea to keep off the political threads, don't you think? PS It's not just a Labour - Tory thing, but maybe you've dozed through all that. |
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Post by venceremos on May 14, 2021 12:45:40 GMT 1
Yes, by comparison with the Tories, well spotted. "The grabbing hands grab all they can Everything counts in large amounts" One day you'll take your blinkers off. I think you've just bagged the award for the least self-aware post of the month. Well done! |
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Post by armchairfan on May 14, 2021 12:59:26 GMT 1
One day you'll take your blinkers off. I think you've just bagged the award for the least self-aware post of the month. Well done! The introduction of blinkers into this discussion is interesting: I had always thought that blinkers were originally intended for horses, in order for them to maintain focus on what was ahead of them, and avoid distraction from the side, which supposition I have now confirmed through Google; that being the case, I, for one, will accept the accusation of wearing them. |
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Post by servernaside on May 14, 2021 13:38:34 GMT 1
One day you'll take your blinkers off. I think you've just bagged the award for the least self-aware post of the month. Well done! Good to see you're still wearing them. Well done! |
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Post by Minormorris64 on May 14, 2021 13:48:55 GMT 1
A football Message board would be a starter without the Labour Party obsessives banging on about the Tory Party Perhaps you need to look back to who started this thread 😃  |
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