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Post by block12massive on Jul 26, 2022 13:09:39 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on Jul 26, 2022 13:09:54 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jul 26, 2022 13:34:01 GMT 1
Semantics really. He's going to rework the 10 pledges into a new policy document. Some of those pledges, I agree, have now been dropped. Others will be revisited. New policies will then be brought forward. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 26, 2022 14:16:50 GMT 1
Semantics really. He's going to rework the 10 pledges into a new policy document. Some of those pledges, I agree, have now been dropped. Others will be revisited. New policies will then be brought forward. that will not please the left of the party |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 26, 2022 16:06:18 GMT 1
Semantics really. He's going to rework the 10 pledges into a new policy document. Some of those pledges, I agree, have now been dropped. Others will be revisited. New policies will then be brought forward. Have you ever considered a career in politics...  |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 26, 2022 16:11:36 GMT 1
Semantics really. He's going to rework the 10 pledges into a new policy document. Some of those pledges, I agree, have now been dropped. Others will be revisited. New policies will then be brought forward. that will not please the left of the party I think they've know this for some time, they've taken it for granted for some time. It won't come as any surprise to them and hence why he was interrupted having his pizza yesterday. Not entirely sure who that section of the Labour party dislike more; Starmer and his cohort or the Tories. Although I guess they would say they are one in the same... |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 26, 2022 18:11:32 GMT 1
Semantics really. He's going to rework the 10 pledges into a new policy document. Some of those pledges, I agree, have now been dropped. Others will be revisited. New policies will then be brought forward. Have you ever considered a career in politics... No, but my half sister is already a Tory M.P. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 26, 2022 21:59:55 GMT 1
When the next election comes, will the Tory party be running with the same election pledges they made at the last election?
Only, thing is, even though the Tories have been in power and able to implement them, they have already scrapped some of their pledges with two years to go.
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Post by kenwood on Jul 27, 2022 8:29:39 GMT 1
I hear Starmer is going to put his reworked manifesto pledges on the side of a bloody great bus and drive it around the Country .
Why? Well, apparently that makes it true and is guaranteed to fool most of the voting population .
Wonder where Starmer got that trick from?
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 27, 2022 8:35:03 GMT 1
I hear Starmer is going to put his reworked manifesto pledges on the side of a bloody great bus and drive it around the Country . Why? Well, apparently that makes it true and is guaranteed to fool most of the voting population . Wonder where Starmer got that trick from? To be honest, him actually having some pledges and policy would be a starting point. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 27, 2022 11:05:20 GMT 1
Boris Johnson is being backed by senior Tories to be the next secretary general of Nato when the high-profile role next becomes free.
The Prime Minister is being touted as a candidate to fill the key defence post with the incumbent Jens Stoltenberg widely expected to stand down in September next year.
A British candidate has long been tipped for the role because of US distrust around any European Union figures taking the job given repeated suggestions of plans for a new EU army.
Britain is also trusted by the Baltic states and Mr Johnson personally has won international credit for helping to build the international coalition against Russia’s Vladimir Putin.
However, there was concern among the top brass, with Lord Dannatt, former head of the British Army, saying that he could not support Mr Johnson because of his character.
The peer told The Telegraph: “Undoubtedly he has done a lot of good things and our full square support for Ukraine is fantastic.
“But I am afraid it is the personal stuff, the lack of integrity, the lack of trust. Frankly, we don’t want to expose Boris Johnson on the international stage for more ridicule. He is a national embarrassment.”
A senior Ministry of Defence figure also expressed doubts, given there was a likelihood that Emmanuel Macron, the French President, would veto him.
One source told The Telegraph: “The reality is that Nato sec gens are appointed by unanimous decision. Any country can veto.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 27, 2022 11:11:12 GMT 1
Lord Dannatt seems a sensible fellow. Somehow doubt he'd want Lord Boris in the House of Lords either.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 29, 2022 8:11:07 GMT 1
that will not please the left of the party Not entirely sure who that section of the Labour party dislike more; Starmer and his cohort or the Tories. Case in point... OWEN JONES IS RIGHT, KEIR STARMER LIED |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 29, 2022 9:20:09 GMT 1
One of the comments about the article sums it up for me.
"You seriously thought that Starmer would be continuity Corbyn? And now he turns out to be more or less what every intelligent observer expected you think he should be abused in public by far left selfie-takers?"
Labour has it's internal disputes and a broad spread of members who are free to make comments, a bolshie bunch.
The Conservative party has it's internal disputes, but they hush up so as not to " damage the Tory brand"
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Post by northwestman on Jul 29, 2022 11:10:59 GMT 1
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-sam-tarry-face-trigger-ballot-ilford-south-angela-rayner-b1011041.htmlSam Tarry and Apsana Begum voice concerns about 'rule breaking and voter fraud' when facing deselection. However, Labour didn't seem so concerned about alleged vote rigging at the Peterborough by election. 'A notorious vote-rigger jailed for forging postal votes played a far greater role in Labour’s narrow by-election victory in Peterborough than the party has admitted. Tariq Mahmood, 51, a number plate salesman and former taxi company owner who received a 15-month sentence for his part in a “systematic campaign of electoral fraud” in 2008, had denied involvement in the campaign to elect Lisa Forbes. Mahmood: ● Campaigned extensively with Forbes and at least five MPs in Central Ward, where, a court heard, he had once been “the spider at the centre of the web” of a massive campaign to “hijack” ballot papers and forge postal votes ● Accompanied Corbyn during his tour of the ward’s mosques, community centres and high street days before the vote ● Spent election day at the entrance to a local polling station. The Central Ward in which Mahmood campaigned had the greatest proportion of postal votes issued in the constituency. There are no figures on how many were returned or for which party'. The Times.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 29, 2022 11:22:14 GMT 1
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-sam-tarry-face-trigger-ballot-ilford-south-angela-rayner-b1011041.htmlSam Tarry and Apsana Begum voice concerns about 'rule breaking and voter fraud' when facing deselection. However, Labour didn't seem so concerned about alleged vote rigging at the Peterborough by election. 'A notorious vote-rigger jailed for forging postal votes played a far greater role in Labour’s narrow by-election victory in Peterborough than the party has admitted. Tariq Mahmood, 51, a number plate salesman and former taxi company owner who received a 15-month sentence for his part in a “systematic campaign of electoral fraud” in 2008, had denied involvement in the campaign to elect Lisa Forbes. Mahmood: ● Campaigned extensively with Forbes and at least five MPs in Central Ward, where, a court heard, he had once been “the spider at the centre of the web” of a massive campaign to “hijack” ballot papers and forge postal votes ● Accompanied Corbyn during his tour of the ward’s mosques, community centres and high street days before the vote ● Spent election day at the entrance to a local polling station. The Central Ward in which Mahmood campaigned had the greatest proportion of postal votes issued in the constituency. There are no figures on how many were returned or for which party'. The Times. That vote rigging was obvious, and a disgrace. Dismissed as fake news by the left at the time. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 31, 2022 13:21:55 GMT 1
A confidential document prepared by CT Group, the influential lobbying firm run by Lynton Crosby which advises Boris Johnson makes no bones about the defenestrated prime minister’s aim to pack the House of Lords. The document proposes that Johnson ride roughshod over every convention and standard of propriety in an effort to secure political nominees who will vote for the Tory government, especially its bill to disown the international treaty it has itself signed over Northern Ireland. This draft plan to add 39 to 50 new Tory peers includes an extraordinary requirement that each new peer sign away their right to make their own judgment on legislation that comes before them. They have to give, the paper says, a written undertaking to attend and vote with the government. The plan also legitimises straightforward bribery. In a throwback to the Old Corruption that was a feature of 19th-century Tory Britain, compliant lords will be “rewarded” with lucrative special envoy positions, and, while those who fail to attend votes will be placed on a “name and shame” list, CBEs and additional titles will be handed out, responding to what is an apparently insatiable demand for the already ennobled to be showered with additional honours on top of their peerages. But the cynicism of the Crosby firm’s paper plumbs new depths when outlining what it calls “useful cover from any media backlash”. The perpetrators of this coup will claim, wholly falsely, that their real aim is to redress the balance between the south-east, which has the largest number of peers, and the north of England, Scotland and Wales, which are underrepresented, as though the award of peerages is a genuine form of levelling up. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/boris-johnson-lords-cronies-legitimising-bribery |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 31, 2022 13:36:48 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 31, 2022 14:27:59 GMT 1
A confidential document prepared by CT Group, the influential lobbying firm run by Lynton Crosby which advises Boris Johnson makes no bones about the defenestrated prime minister’s aim to pack the House of Lords. The document proposes that Johnson ride roughshod over every convention and standard of propriety in an effort to secure political nominees who will vote for the Tory government, especially its bill to disown the international treaty it has itself signed over Northern Ireland. This draft plan to add 39 to 50 new Tory peers includes an extraordinary requirement that each new peer sign away their right to make their own judgment on legislation that comes before them. They have to give, the paper says, a written undertaking to attend and vote with the government. The plan also legitimises straightforward bribery. In a throwback to the Old Corruption that was a feature of 19th-century Tory Britain, compliant lords will be “rewarded” with lucrative special envoy positions, and, while those who fail to attend votes will be placed on a “name and shame” list, CBEs and additional titles will be handed out, responding to what is an apparently insatiable demand for the already ennobled to be showered with additional honours on top of their peerages. But the cynicism of the Crosby firm’s paper plumbs new depths when outlining what it calls “useful cover from any media backlash”. The perpetrators of this coup will claim, wholly falsely, that their real aim is to redress the balance between the south-east, which has the largest number of peers, and the north of England, Scotland and Wales, which are underrepresented, as though the award of peerages is a genuine form of levelling up. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/boris-johnson-lords-cronies-legitimising-briberyBoris stuffing the Lords with cronies has to be challenged and stopped - if not by Parliament then by the Cobnservative party - It just looks so blatantly wrong. |
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Post by northwestman on Jul 31, 2022 21:05:15 GMT 1
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 1, 2022 0:22:18 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Aug 1, 2022 11:34:54 GMT 1
She's exhibiting a similar attitude to the Northern Ireland Protocol. |
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Post by block12massive on Aug 1, 2022 14:05:12 GMT 1
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/08/01/labours-lisa-nandy-joins-bt-picket-line-despite-ban-shadow-frontbenchers/Lisa Nandy has attended a BT workers’ picket line despite Sir Keir Starmer’s ban on frontbenchers supporting strikes.The Wigan MP and shadow levelling up secretary was photographed at a Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) picket line in her constituency on Monday, five days after Sam Tarry was sacked for giving media interviews from a rail picket line and accused of making up Labour policy “on the hoof”. The Daily Telegraph.
Ooh err. More humiliation for Her Majesty's opposition. Can't seem to shake off the relics of it's Trade Union past, or the disastrous Corbyn era. Starmer has about as much authority as a lollipop lady.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 1, 2022 16:03:52 GMT 1
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/08/01/labours-lisa-nandy-joins-bt-picket-line-despite-ban-shadow-frontbenchers/Lisa Nandy has attended a BT workers’ picket line despite Sir Keir Starmer’s ban on frontbenchers supporting strikes.The Wigan MP and shadow levelling up secretary was photographed at a Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) picket line in her constituency on Monday, five days after Sam Tarry was sacked for giving media interviews from a rail picket line and accused of making up Labour policy “on the hoof”. The Daily Telegraph.
Ooh err. More humiliation for Her Majesty's opposition. Can't seem to shake off the relics of it's Trade Union past, or the disastrous Corbyn era. Starmer has about as much authority as a lollipop lady. Agreed. He's hoping that a fair % of the Corbyn/Momentum crowd will either retire or be deselected by the time of the next General Election. e.g Sultana, Tarry, Byrne and Begum. But he'll still have problems with the likes of Rayner, her mate Long-Bailey, Burgon and others. Ideally, Starmer would prefer none of this lot to be around: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Campaign_Group#Current_membersJust the small matter of finding someone else to bankroll Labour to the tune of £4 million a year and he won't then be having to accept Union recommended candidates for Constituencies, a very high % of which are left wingers like Tarry. Nandy is trying to play it both ways by saying she's been 'talking' to strikers on the picket line rather than being on the picket line itself. Just like Starmer is trying to play it both ways by sacking Tarry for giving unauthorised interviews to the press whilst not condemning either him or other M.Ps for being on picket lines. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 2, 2022 12:20:03 GMT 1
Speaking of Corbyn (and think now looks to be the place for all things politics)... This guy is an idiot. What exactly does he think will happen if the Ukrainians are unable to defend themselves and their country...  |
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Post by kp on Aug 2, 2022 12:31:29 GMT 1
Speaking of Corbyn (and think now looks to be the place for all things politics)... This guy is an idiot. What exactly does he think will happen if the Ukrainians are unable to defend themselves and their country... Yeah, what an idiot, using words like 'peace'. Get those weapons sold boys so the military industrial complex can make more profit... Major General Smedley D Butler had it right, 'War Is A Racket'. A decent little read by one of the most decorated Marines in US military history. An old piece having been written almost a century ago but lots of it still resonates. |
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Post by kp on Aug 2, 2022 12:34:06 GMT 1
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/08/01/labours-lisa-nandy-joins-bt-picket-line-despite-ban-shadow-frontbenchers/Lisa Nandy has attended a BT workers’ picket line despite Sir Keir Starmer’s ban on frontbenchers supporting strikes.The Wigan MP and shadow levelling up secretary was photographed at a Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) picket line in her constituency on Monday, five days after Sam Tarry was sacked for giving media interviews from a rail picket line and accused of making up Labour policy “on the hoof”. The Daily Telegraph.
Ooh err. More humiliation for Her Majesty's opposition. Can't seem to shake off the relics of it's Trade Union past, or the disastrous Corbyn era. Starmer has about as much authority as a lollipop lady. Agreed. He's hoping that a fair % of the Corbyn/Momentum crowd will either retire or be deselected by the time of the next General Election. e.g Sultana, Tarry, Byrne and Begum. But he'll still have problems with the likes of Rayner, her mate Long-Bailey, Burgon and others. Ideally, Starmer would prefer none of this lot to be around: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Campaign_Group#Current_membersJust the small matter of finding someone else to bankroll Labour to the tune of £4 million a year and he won't then be having to accept Union recommended candidates for Constituencies, a very high % of which are left wingers like Tarry. Nandy is trying to play it both ways by saying she's been 'talking' to strikers on the picket line rather than being on the picket line itself. Just like Starmer is trying to play it both ways by sacking Tarry for giving unauthorised interviews to the press whilst not condemning either him or other M.Ps for being on picket lines. They wouldn't need that 4 million if Labours membership was anywhere near what it was under Corbyn. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 2, 2022 12:45:16 GMT 1
Speaking of Corbyn (and think now looks to be the place for all things politics)... This guy is an idiot. What exactly does he think will happen if the Ukrainians are unable to defend themselves and their country... Yeah, what an idiot, using words like 'peace'. Get those weapons sold boys so the military industrial complex can make more profit... Major General Smedley D Butler had it right, 'War Is A Racket'. A decent little read by one of the most decorated Marines in US military history. An old piece having been written almost a century ago but lots of it still resonates. So you don't think the Ukraine should be given the means to defend itself against Russian aggression. OK.  |
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Post by kp on Aug 2, 2022 12:50:02 GMT 1
Yeah, what an idiot, using words like 'peace'. Get those weapons sold boys so the military industrial complex can make more profit... Major General Smedley D Butler had it right, 'War Is A Racket'. A decent little read by one of the most decorated Marines in US military history. An old piece having been written almost a century ago but lots of it still resonates. So you don't think the Ukraine should be given the means to defend itself against Russian aggression. OK. I am not sure where I stated that to be honest but here, I will engage with the attempted strawman. The weapons are being GIVEN to Ukraine you say? So this implies they are a gift, no cost. I think perhaps you should read the suggested text. Knowledge is power and I will put Major General Smedley D Butlers intimate knowledge of these matters right up there tbh. :rollyeyethingy: |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 2, 2022 13:11:51 GMT 1
So you don't think the Ukraine should be given the means to defend itself against Russian aggression. OK. I am not sure where I stated that to be honest but here, I will engage with the attempted strawman. The weapons are being GIVEN to Ukraine you say? So this implies they are a gift, no cost. I think perhaps you should read the suggested text. Knowledge is power and I will put Major General Smedley D Butlers intimate knowledge of these matters right up there tbh. :rollyeyethingy: I'm calling out Corbyn as an idiot as he is critical of those who are providing the Ukraine with weapons so that they can defend themselves. You seem to take issue with that. Apologies if I have it wrong. Whether the weapons are given, sold, whatever is irrelevant to the discussion. Do you think it is wrong to provide weapons to the Ukraine so that it can defend itself? As Corbyn does. We can all talk about peace and I'm sure most hope that the war in the Ukraine comes to and end sooner rather than later but Corbyn's idea of peace seems to involve removing the Ukraine's ability to defend itself and the inevitable result of Russian aggression. Just more kumbaya student politics b******s from Corbyn, lets not forget this is the clown who wanted to send a sample of the poison used at Salisbury to the Kremlin to ask if it was theirs. The guy is a ****wit. As he is proving once again here. |
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