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Post by northwestman on Mar 10, 2021 11:26:19 GMT 1
Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened. Came out for a ball against a Rochdale forward, missed it, and it was cleared off the line. Opinions are divided on here as to whether he was fouled. I thought Wigglesworth was a linesman. Why didn’t he give it as a goal for them? Dear me his standards are improving. He probably wanted to. The ball was near enough to the line. Fortunately, the referee gave the foul. Was it Wigglesworth on that side of the pitch?
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 10, 2021 11:49:50 GMT 1
Oh I don’t know perhaps not as it wasn’t given even before the ref blew for a foul!
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Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 10, 2021 12:14:54 GMT 1
I thought Wigglesworth was a linesman. Why didn’t he give it as a goal for them? Dear me his standards are improving. He probably wanted to. The ball was near enough to the line. Fortunately, the referee gave the foul. Was it Wigglesworth on that side of the pitch? The difference was as far as I could see no Rochdale player appealed for the 'goal'. In the infamous Wycombe incident Ainsworth blatantly cheated by orchestrating a 'goal' celebration right in front of the officials. That remain the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen in a football game as replays showed the ball never got to the line let alone crossed it.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 10, 2021 12:17:53 GMT 1
Be nice to better Sam Ricketts record breaking 15th last season mind.... When last season was terminated early we had 41 points from 34 games, we currently have 41 points from 31 games. Top half has to be the optimistic target now safe in the knowledge that the main aim from Cotterill’s appointment, to avoid relegation will almost certainly be achieved. History will only show league position which will be reflected in SCs figures as last years SR’s so he’ll want to better his predecessor, something to aim for 👍
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 10, 2021 12:25:22 GMT 1
Regarding Burgoyne, I've seen lots of criticism for him, what did he do wrong? All I've seen is a clip where he came out but the player it past him, could say he misjudged it but it's not up there in the major howler category for me. Anything else? Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened. Came out for a ball against a Rochdale forward, missed it, and it was cleared off the line. Opinions are divided on here as to whether he was fouled. ‘Dropped the ball early on’ think you should add it was a high ball slightly behind him which would have been a difficult take. The one cleared off the line was after he’d been fouled, which was given by the ref. The keepers the one position people don’t seem to ever forgive or forget a mistake. Remember Fred in his Shed and his one man campaign against Leuitwiller (spelt wrong) we’ve now got Mortgagehound, whatever Burgoyne does he’ll be expecting a mistake (or wetting himself 😂)
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2021 13:17:38 GMT 1
Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened. Came out for a ball against a Rochdale forward, missed it, and it was cleared off the line. Opinions are divided on here as to whether he was fouled. ‘Dropped the ball early on’ think you should add it was a high ball slightly behind him which would have been a difficult take. The one cleared off the line was after he’d been fouled, which was given by the ref. The keepers the one position people don’t seem to ever forgive or forget a mistake. Remember Fred in his Shed and his one man campaign against Leuitwiller (spelt wrong) we’ve now got Mortgagehound, whatever Burgoyne does he’ll be expecting a mistake (or wetting himself 😂) forgive me for suggesting it was a simple unchallenged cross for a keeper to catch, and I uploaded the video a few pages back suggesting the other was not a foul
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 10, 2021 13:36:47 GMT 1
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Post by The Tactician on Mar 10, 2021 14:20:08 GMT 1
a few minutes earlier he dropped a catch and it should have resulted in a goal, that incident you mention seems to be his trait, many times this season he has come outside the box literally nowhere near the ball, and the clip I uploaded after the game, he should be making those if he comes for them I've given him motm in games this season but in todays game you need a keeper who is 100% on the ball for 90 mins, every game we are in a position now where we can stumble over the line if necessary so not the biggest issue we have any more were is the goalkeeping coach? Our goalkeeping coach can barely walk let alone burst into a jog!
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 10, 2021 14:41:25 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2021 14:48:14 GMT 1
Totally agree that was excellent This guy is our future hero
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Post by blamber on Mar 10, 2021 15:01:02 GMT 1
Burgoyne does worry me. I've seen him doing that charge from his goal line to challenge the oncoming striker a couple of times before and it not working. I'm not sure why he needs to keep doing it. He doesn't seem to learn. By staying in his area and narrowing the angle gives the striker far more to do than simply touch the ball to one side of the on rushing Harry. The defence baled him out on at least a couple of occasions last night. In my opinion SC will need two new goalies next season and either move rash Harry on or send him out on loan.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2021 15:21:16 GMT 1
Burgoyne does worry me. I've seen him doing that charge from his goal line to challenge the oncoming striker a couple of times before and it not working. I'm not sure why he needs to keep doing it. He doesn't seem to learn. By staying in his area and narrowing the angle gives the striker far more to do than simply touch the ball to one side of the on rushing Harry. The defence baled him out on at least a couple of occasions last night. In my opinion SC will need two new goalies next season and either move rash Harry on or send him out on loan. is cameron gregory on loan or is he still with us with Sarkic on internation dutys , this is the only other option we have and i cant that happening, so let us hope they can work on stoping him having these rush of blood moments.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2021 15:21:41 GMT 1
Totally agree that was excellent This guy is our future hero and he scores a goal !
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Post by tdk on Mar 10, 2021 15:45:54 GMT 1
Chapman, Norburn and Pierre are our key players, but it is nice to see others coming on such as Daniels, Goss, Ogbeta and Vela
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 10, 2021 15:59:03 GMT 1
Burgoyne does worry me. I've seen him doing that charge from his goal line to challenge the oncoming striker a couple of times before and it not working. I'm not sure why he needs to keep doing it. He doesn't seem to learn. By staying in his area and narrowing the angle gives the striker far more to do than simply touch the ball to one side of the on rushing Harry. The defence baled him out on at least a couple of occasions last night. In my opinion SC will need two new goalies next season and either move rash Harry on or send him out on loan. is cameron gregory on loan or is he still with us with Sarkic on internation dutys , this is the only other option we have and i cant that happening, so let us hope they can work on stoping him having these rush of blood moments. According to the match report in the Star, Gregory is injured and a young youth keeper travelled with the team yesterday.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 10, 2021 16:04:06 GMT 1
Chapman, Norburn and Pierre are our key players, but it is nice to see others coming on such as Daniels, Goss, Ogbeta and Vela Food for thought in that. I'd say Chapman is our matchwinner but not a key player. Vela is, I think, becoming a key player to go with Pierre and Norburn.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 10, 2021 16:41:01 GMT 1
Chapman, Norburn and Pierre are our key players, but it is nice to see others coming on such as Daniels, Goss, Ogbeta and Vela Food for thought in that. I'd say Chapman is our matchwinner but not a key player. Vela is, I think, becoming a key player to go with Pierre and Norburn. Agreed, he'd be my player of the season at this point.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 10, 2021 16:41:50 GMT 1
‘Dropped the ball early on’ think you should add it was a high ball slightly behind him which would have been a difficult take. The one cleared off the line was after he’d been fouled, which was given by the ref. The keepers the one position people don’t seem to ever forgive or forget a mistake. Remember Fred in his Shed and his one man campaign against Leuitwiller (spelt wrong) we’ve now got Mortgagehound, whatever Burgoyne does he’ll be expecting a mistake (or wetting himself 😂) forgive me for suggesting it was a simple unchallenged cross for a keeper to catch, and I uploaded the video a few pages back suggesting the other was not a foul I pointed out HE DIDNT DROP THE BALL in reply to NWMs post including ‘ Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened.’I do disagree with your view mind that it was simple. Somewhere between simple and difficult, say tricky?
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Post by venceremos on Mar 10, 2021 16:46:16 GMT 1
Food for thought in that. I'd say Chapman is our matchwinner but not a key player. Vela is, I think, becoming a key player to go with Pierre and Norburn. Agreed, he'd be my player of the season at this point. You mean Vela? Not sure who I'd choose for that at the moment but he'd definitely be on the shortlist.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2021 16:58:41 GMT 1
forgive me for suggesting it was a simple unchallenged cross for a keeper to catch, and I uploaded the video a few pages back suggesting the other was not a foul I pointed out HE DIDNT DROP THE BALL in reply to NWMs post including ‘ Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened.’I do disagree with your view mind that it was simple. Somewhere between simple and difficult, say tricky? I say somewhere between a dolly & bread & butter ;-)
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 10, 2021 17:09:19 GMT 1
Agreed, he'd be my player of the season at this point. You mean Vela? Not sure who I'd choose for that at the moment but he'd definitely be on the shortlist. Yup, should have clarified that I meant Vela. He's been absolutely superb since Cotterill came in, and was one of the few playing consistently alright under Ricketts.
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Post by wakemanender on Mar 10, 2021 17:13:35 GMT 1
He probably wanted to. The ball was near enough to the line. Fortunately, the referee gave the foul. Was it Wigglesworth on that side of the pitch? The difference was as far as I could see no Rochdale player appealed for the 'goal'. In the infamous Wycombe incident Ainsworth blatantly cheated by orchestrating a 'goal' celebration right in front of the officials. That remain the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen in a football game as replays showed the ball never got to the line let alone crossed it. Ive always said that the referees decision for the Wycombe incident should have been used for a specsavers advert. Referees make mistakes but that was criminal.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Mar 10, 2021 17:15:03 GMT 1
I pointed out HE DIDNT DROP THE BALL in reply to NWMs post including ‘ Yep. Dropped the ball early on which resulted in a goalmouth scramble where anything could have happened.’I do disagree with your view mind that it was simple. Somewhere between simple and difficult, say tricky? I say somewhere between a dolly & bread & butter ;-) That attempt at catching the ball was up there with Bob Tooze at his best, and his punching would have made Lootwiler proud
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Post by northwestman on Mar 10, 2021 17:20:22 GMT 1
The difference was as far as I could see no Rochdale player appealed for the 'goal'. In the infamous Wycombe incident Ainsworth blatantly cheated by orchestrating a 'goal' celebration right in front of the officials. That remain the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen in a football game as replays showed the ball never got to the line let alone crossed it. Ive always said that the referees decision for the Wycombe incident should have been used for a specsavers advert. Referees make mistakes but that was criminal. Even more criminal was that Ainsworth, who knew it wasn't a goal, got his team mates to play along with the charade. I'm pleased that Wycombe now look certain to be relegated. Even their one season in the Championship was only made available to them once last season was curtailed, leaving them in the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 18:34:01 GMT 1
You mean Vela? Not sure who I'd choose for that at the moment but he'd definitely be on the shortlist. Yup, should have clarified that I meant Vela. He's been absolutely superb since Cotterill came in, and was one of the few playing consistently alright under Ricketts. He's certainly in the running at the moment, I'm glad that he's on the books for next season as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 18:45:42 GMT 1
Ive always said that the referees decision for the Wycombe incident should have been used for a specsavers advert. Referees make mistakes but that was criminal. Even more criminal was that Ainsworth, who knew it wasn't a goal, got his team mates to play along with the charade. I'm pleased that Wycombe now look certain to be relegated. Even their one season in the Championship was only made available to them once last season was curtailed, leaving them in the playoffs. 12 points from safety at the moment. A tall order given their current form.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2021 19:16:22 GMT 1
Even more criminal was that Ainsworth, who knew it wasn't a goal, got his team mates to play along with the charade. I'm pleased that Wycombe now look certain to be relegated. Even their one season in the Championship was only made available to them once last season was curtailed, leaving them in the playoffs. 12 points from safety at the moment. A tall order given their current form. Shame. Got no great love for them. Bit like Peterborough, hope in a way they go up just to prove to them they actually arent the big club they think they are.
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 10, 2021 20:08:55 GMT 1
Based on the points per game rule Wycombe were given the last playoff spot at the expense of Peterborough I think? Karma that the Posh go up and Wycombe down. But I suppose it wasn't Wycombes fault.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 11, 2021 0:43:55 GMT 1
Based on the points per game rule Wycombe were given the last playoff spot at the expense of Peterborough I think? Karma that the Posh go up and Wycombe down. But I suppose it wasn't Wycombes fault. Wycombe were in freefall, I ruled them out of the play offs but they pulled through this is one of the reasons ive never too excited about town going up again it wont be for 10 years again, it will be for 12 months ok I'll take it but thats the way to is
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Post by northwestman on Mar 11, 2021 10:34:51 GMT 1
Based on the points per game rule Wycombe were given the last playoff spot at the expense of Peterborough I think? Karma that the Posh go up and Wycombe down. But I suppose it wasn't Wycombes fault. Wycombe were in freefall, I ruled them out of the play offs but they pulled through this is one of the reasons ive never too excited about town going up again it wont be for 10 years again, it will be for 12 months ok I'll take it but thats the way to is Rotherham supporters seem to have come to terms with that. And Burton even got 2 years out of it!
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