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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2020 18:48:46 GMT 1
I can imagine a desperate attempt to find CCTV footage of DC in Barnards Castle. If there is, BJ himself is in big trouble. Confirmation of the owner of the car, the registration plate of which the witness note of should be sufficient.
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 24, 2020 19:06:37 GMT 1
I can imagine a desperate attempt to find CCTV footage of DC in Barnards Castle. If there is, BJ himself is in big trouble. Doesn't have to be of that, any footage of him anywhere that isn't London after returning from the spell in Durham and they are screwed after Boris and shapps earlier said the second alleged trip didn't happen
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2020 19:27:40 GMT 1
19 questions that need to be answered - Daily Telegraph.
What did the Prime Minister know about Dominic Cummings’ trip to Durham? Was he informed of the police investigating the matter? Briefings have suggested that officials in Downing Street were previously aware of the trip. Was it sanctioned by Boris Johnson? Did Dominic Cummings stop at a service station? His wife had symptoms of coronavirus at the time so would potentially have put civilians at risk if so. It seems likely that the couple would have stopped given that the 260-mile journey would have taken at least four hours and they had their four-year-old son with them in the car. In the course of his journeys between Durham and London did Mr Cummings or his wife come into contact with other members of the public? Why did Number 10 keep quiet about Mr Cummings’ trip to Durham for eight weeks? Did the Prime Minister have any role in the decision not to disclose the incident? Did Mr Cummings visit Houghall Woods near his family’s Durham property on April 19? Onlookers say that spotted the adviser at the beauty spot five days after being photographed back at work in Downing Street. If the account is correct this means Mr Cummings broke lockdown rules more than once. This raises the question: how many times did the adviser visit the north east? Why could Mr Cummings and his wife not arrange childcare in London? Mr Cummings’ brother-in-law lives nearby – why did Mr Cummings not ask him for help with childcare? Alternatively, could the aide's sister not have travelled to London to collect their son? Did Mr Cummings visit Barnard Castle, 30 miles from Durham, on April 12? An eye-witness claims he was walking along the River Tees. Given that he developed his own symptoms after arriving in Durham, should he have been self-isolating at this point? On what day did Mr Cummings fall ill and how long did he self isolate for? Downing Street has challenged the statement of Durham police which states a family member of Mr Cummings’ was questioned by the force. Number 10 initially said that “at no stage” was the aide or his family spoken to by the police about this matter. Which account is true? Deputy Chief Medical Officer Jenny Harries said being too ill to look after a small child was an “exceptional circumstance” on April 10 and she pointed to accessing family support. But Mr Cummings’ trip was almost two weeks before this advice was issued. What is his defence of this? Last night Ms Harries also said that people should only travel with coronavirus to seek childcare if there is an “extreme” risk to life. Was this the case? Boris Johnson last night said that Mr Cummings travelled to Durham because "both he and his wife were about to be incapacitated by coronavirus". But how could he have known he was about to become incapacitated? At the time of travel, Downing Street previously insisted that his wife was displaying symptoms, while Mr Cummings feared there was a "high likelihood" he too would develop the virus. This indicates he had not yet shown symptoms himself when the couple set off for the north east.
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 24, 2020 19:29:30 GMT 1
I thought he should have gone, but he didn't. The thing that worries me now, is that it's distracting attention from the very serious situation we should be concentrating on with this virus.
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2020 19:34:56 GMT 1
I thought he should have gone, but he didn't. The thing that worries me now, is that it's distracting attention from the very serious situation we should be concentrating on with this virus. It's been suggested that he'll now hasten the end of the lockdown. Sitting in a pub with a beer in front of us might well take our mind off Cummings.
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2020 19:44:52 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 19:55:29 GMT 1
The papers don't go into this sort of thing lightly, this story will have gone through reporters, editors and lawyers, the Telegraph is also asking pertinent questions. Boris has underestimated the public, the papers and his own Tory MP's and it's going to hurt.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 20:19:57 GMT 1
Get what you vote for and all that....
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Post by Pilch on May 24, 2020 20:27:08 GMT 1
he could simply allow his phone records to be looked at, if he had it with him at the time it will show where he was, or wasn't
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 24, 2020 20:32:41 GMT 1
he could simply allow his phone records to be looked at, if he had it with him at the time it will show where he was, or wasn't Well done, Wilson, I was just waiting to see who would be the first to spot that.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 20:37:07 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either....
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Post by AlisonS on May 24, 2020 20:54:21 GMT 1
So that’s two fingers to the majority who in a serious national crisis followed the instruction and stayed at home to save the lives of others and a thumbs up to those who just did what they wanted. Just shameful.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 24, 2020 21:00:22 GMT 1
What’s most sickening and disgusting in my opinion is the way the majority of the Tories with any Cabinet responsibility have all rushed to defend the bloke. A co-ordinated plan, if only they’d shown such a united front throughout the pandemic.
This government is not only more incompetent than I ever believed it was capable of, but even more nasty, self centred and entitled than I thought possible. Bunch of tossers.
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Post by ssshrew on May 24, 2020 21:05:23 GMT 1
I just feel so down about this but not in the least surprised.
The creep knows too much about them and knows the PM will be utterly and completely useless without him. He’s got them over a barrel and we will all suffer for it.
I have only one consolation that I didn’t vote for them. Much good, sadly, that will do me.
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Post by ssshrew on May 24, 2020 21:07:03 GMT 1
I thought he should have gone, but he didn't. The thing that worries me now, is that it's distracting attention from the very serious situation we should be concentrating on with this virus. We will be concentrating on it. Sadly the government won’t because they are incapable as they have just lost any support for their handling they once had.
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Post by jamo on May 24, 2020 21:08:16 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... Cummings didn’t have the virus when he left London. His wife did.
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Post by Pilch on May 24, 2020 21:12:25 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... Cummings didn’t have the virus when he left London. His wife did. yes he was applying social distancing he just got the distance slightly wrong ;-)
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Post by highlandshrew on May 24, 2020 22:09:40 GMT 1
I thought he should have gone, but he didn't. The thing that worries me now, is that it's distracting attention from the very serious situation we should be concentrating on with this virus. Which is exactly why he should go. As soon as an advisor becomes the story it's time for them to go - either voluntarily or forcibly.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 22:15:44 GMT 1
he could simply allow his phone records to be looked at, if he had it with him at the time it will show where he was, or wasn't Good job they hadn't thought to have a contact tracing app in place then, that would have been very interesting. Cummings may be the super spreader that introduced Covid 19 to the Durham area.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 22:23:12 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... Cummings didn’t have the virus when he left London. His wife did. We, the rest of us, were on lockdown, worried about venturing out of our own home even to fetch food, despite having no symptoms. He was the guy that wrote the rules, then decided they didn't apply to him. Doesn't that make this far worse than your Jenrick's and all the other guideline benders? Don't they have childcare in London? Any sane decent person would have sought to arrange something in London and not take his sick wife on a 260 mile journey.
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Post by venceremos on May 24, 2020 22:41:27 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... Cummings made the rules, Kinnock, and everyone else, didn’t. When you make the rules but don’t apply them to yourself, you show selfishness and contempt for everybody else. Government ministers defending such actions lose any claims to integrity or moral authority they might have had. They’re a bunch of barstewards and they can all just **** off.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 22:49:42 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... "Which has the media circling the most"... the brains behind the slogans which he chose to interpret to his own ends... that's who. These unelected persons who set policies and we are glad we don't have in our country
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Post by darkshrew on May 24, 2020 22:50:05 GMT 1
Man with Virus goes to 2nd Home to be closer to childcare if he falls desperately ill, Man with 70 odd year old dad drives to London and has a beer with him, Man goes to mass funeral with hundreds of others, Man sits with others in a park eating chips in large group...... Which has the media circling the most.... I am not defending Cumming's, but then I was not pressing for Kinnock to be sacked either.... Are you saying any are right ? If one of them is leading/advising the prime minister and goes against that policy do you not see it as being a bit different ?
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Post by darkshrew on May 24, 2020 22:54:03 GMT 1
Cummings didn’t have the virus when he left London. His wife did. We, the rest of us, were on lockdown, worried about venturing out of our own home even to fetch food, despite having no symptoms. He was the guy that wrote the rules, then decided they didn't apply to him. Doesn't that make this far worse than your Jenrick's and all the other guideline benders? Don't they have childcare in London? Any sane decent person would have sought to arrange something in London and not take his sick wife on a 260 mile journey. He has family in London and expects us to believe that the best mate of the prime minister cannot get food delivered or someone to look after his kid even if his family in London let him down. Complete contempt for the rules he set.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 23:01:46 GMT 1
So, how long does this agony go on before Cummings goes like Sturgeon's medical officer finally did? Something for Ladbrooks to get their teeth into what with there being no football and racing at the moment.
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 24, 2020 23:03:08 GMT 1
I don't bother with the daily briefing normally, but I love to watch polly tichens squirming, so I tuned in for the fust part today. I loved the fust question from the BBC (I can't remember his name), when he couldn't get the sound to work as he should have taken the glory for the lead Dominic Cummings question, but he couldn't get the sound to work. Then across his face comes a flowery armed blouse from his missus desperately trying to help him out! That's never happened to me, when a tutting dragon has had to come to my rescue on the internet......honestly.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 23:09:37 GMT 1
I don't bother with the daily briefing normally, but I love to watch polly tichens squirming, so I tuned in for the fust part today. I loved the fust question from the BBC (I can't remember his name), when he couldn't get the sound to work as he should have taken the glory for the lead Dominic Cummings question, but he couldn't get the sound to work. Then across his face comes a flowery armed blouse from his missus desperately trying to help him out! That's never happened to me, when a tutting dragon has had to come to my rescue on the internet......honestly. I did at the time suspect Boris had organised it with his mates at Huawei to blank out the broadband sound of anyone who might ask awkward questions.
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 24, 2020 23:17:24 GMT 1
I don't bother with the daily briefing normally, but I love to watch polly tichens squirming, so I tuned in for the fust part today. I loved the fust question from the BBC (I can't remember his name), when he couldn't get the sound to work as he should have taken the glory for the lead Dominic Cummings question, but he couldn't get the sound to work. Then across his face comes a flowery armed blouse from his missus desperately trying to help him out! That's never happened to me, when a tutting dragon has had to come to my rescue on the internet......honestly. I did at the time suspect Boris had organised it with his mates at Huawei to blank out the broadband sound of anyone who might ask awkward questions. I've never seen a Huawei engineers arms, but if you say they have blouses with flowery sleeves I'll take your word for it.
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Post by Pilch on May 24, 2020 23:18:52 GMT 1
he could simply allow his phone records to be looked at, if he had it with him at the time it will show where he was, or wasn't Good job they hadn't thought to have a contact tracing app in place then, that would have been very interesting. Cummings may be the super spreader that introduced Covid 19 to the Durham area. we do have 11,000 anpr cameras in the uk these and the mobile phone records are the equivalent of leaving finger prints everywhere you go
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2020 23:26:44 GMT 1
I did at the time suspect Boris had organised it with his mates at Huawei to blank out the broadband sound of anyone who might ask awkward questions. I've never seen a Huawei engineers arms, but if you say they have blouses with flowery sleeves I'll take your word for it. Only on Sundays.
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