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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 23:35:58 GMT 1
Poor chap . It’s reported that he decided to travel up to Durham with his 4 year old to see his parents . It’s said he wasn’t well at the time and should have been self isolating . Enemies , there are more than a few including some Tory’s , smell blood . What will Boris do - will he get the chop . Interesting reading then in tomorrow’s papers , more s**te for the government to deal with .
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 22, 2020 23:41:23 GMT 1
Interesting after the fuss Boris and Hancock made about Ferguson breaking lockdown rules
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on May 23, 2020 0:29:17 GMT 1
Presumably this means Stephen Kinnock and Tahir Ali will also be resigning. Shame, I thought both were decent enough politicians.
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Post by Pilch on May 23, 2020 1:11:53 GMT 1
copied from the other thread
I would imagine he will have to resign , the Scottish mp women did, I feel for him but if you are Laurie mcmememy and promote Barbican, dont go and get caught drink driving, you know what I mean ;-)
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 7:30:57 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 23, 2020 7:37:21 GMT 1
It’s worth pointing out that owd Sturgeon didn’t want Calderwood to resign either! Cummings was ‘self-isolating’ at a similar time to when Johnson and Hancock had the virus, so at an early time of the lockdown when panic was at its highest and the overwhelming majority were following the rules. He’s got to go, but I suspect he’ll ride it out.
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 7:40:53 GMT 1
Don’t do as I do, do as I tell you. Yet again.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 7:50:57 GMT 1
There is the additional point here that when Cummings arrived in Durham he was suffering from Covid-19, and therefore was putting his parents at risk.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 8:02:44 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on May 23, 2020 8:07:18 GMT 1
Throw the book at him absolute t**t of the first degree
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 8:12:39 GMT 1
March 23 Boris Johnson announces lockdown. March 27: On the same day the Prime Minister tests positive for coronavirus, his top aide is seen running across Downing Street to get home to his wife Mary Wakefield. She later wrote in The Spectator that Mr Cummings did 'rush home' to look after her when she developed symptoms. March 28 & 29: Mr Cummings develops symptoms of the disease over the weekend, Downing Street confirms, with Mrs Wakefield saying he felt 'weird'. He reportedly collapsed before spending ten days bedridden with a high fever, spasms and breathlessness. March 31: The Government adviser was in Durham, according to the investigation, with police confirming they visited an individual who had travelled to the city from London to self-isolate. April 5: Mr Cummings is allegedly spotted by a witness at the grounds of his parents' home near Durham at 5.45pm with a child believed to be his son. The same evening Scotland's chief medical officer Catherine Calderwood resigns for breaching lockdown rules for visiting her second home. April 14: The PM's aide is photographed in Downing Street for the first time since recovering from coronavirus. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8349129/Dominic-Cummings-investigated-police-breaking-coronavirus-lockdown-rules.html
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 8:24:27 GMT 1
He is sure to get away with it. This is what you get with electing a government which is amoral at it's heart and everyone knew that before it was elected.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 8:34:57 GMT 1
He is sure to get away with it. This is what you get with electing a government which is amoral at it's heart and everyone knew that before it was elected. I fear you may well be right. Jenrick got away with it, despite irrefutable evidence that his London home is his main residence, and that his Herefordshire property to which he travelled is not the family home.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 23, 2020 8:44:18 GMT 1
He is sure to get away with it. This is what you get with electing a government which is amoral at it's heart and everyone knew that before it was elected. It’s like people complaining about how our prime minister is hiding throughout this crisis, they voted for a bloke who bottled every single election interview and debate, so why would now be any different?
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 8:52:31 GMT 1
Downing Street said at the time that Mr Cummings was "at home" in isolation, when in fact he was more than 260 miles away.
And they didn't know that?
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 9:02:27 GMT 1
He is sure to get away with it. This is what you get with electing a government which is amoral at it's heart and everyone knew that before it was elected. It’s like people complaining about how our prime minister is hiding throughout this crisis, they voted for a bloke who bottled every single election interview and debate, so why would now be any different? I start by saying that I didn’t vote for him and I knew he would be ‘lightweight’. It’s why I don’t think Cummings will go. But I do wonder if the reason we are not seeing the PM is because he is still recovering. It is supposed to be quite a long recovery period and if seems he was more ill than we were told at the time.
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 9:03:06 GMT 1
Downing Street said at the time that Mr Cummings was "at home" in isolation, when in fact he was more than 260 miles away. And they didn't know that? Hypocrites and liars are us.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 9:37:07 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on May 23, 2020 9:51:53 GMT 1
just to go off on a tangent but something I hinted at months back
say his parents had caught Covid off him and both died
would he now be inheriting their money or facing manslaughter charges ?
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 23, 2020 9:53:12 GMT 1
I always remember a teecher at my skool telling us when he was in the army he was presented with a medal for good conduct. He said to the officer presenting the medal, "Is this for not stealing?". The officer replied, "No, it's for not getting caught".
I wonder how many others believe the rules don't apply to them, but haven't been exposed?
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Post by davycrockett on May 23, 2020 9:55:15 GMT 1
It’s like people complaining about how our prime minister is hiding throughout this crisis, they voted for a bloke who bottled every single election interview and debate, so why would now be any different? I start by saying that I didn’t vote for him and I knew he would be ‘lightweight’. It’s why I don’t think Cummings will go. But I do wonder if the reason we are not seeing the PM is because he is still recovering. It is supposed to be quite a long recovery period and if seems he was more ill than we were told at the time. If he had it in the first place! All very convenient to raise support for poor old Boris. He hadn’t had a break since February so was due a holiday... Being serious the whole cabinet were breaking the rules. There’d been a confirmed case of a cabinet minister a few days before so anyone who’d been in contact should have been self isolating. But no we’ll just carry on with our usual lives
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 10:05:45 GMT 1
just to go off on a tangent but something I hinted at months back say his parents had caught Covid off him and both died would he now be inheriting their money or facing manslaughter charges ? It will be the former but should be the latter.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 10:21:39 GMT 1
Reports now coming out that Cummings is claiming that he was taking his son to be looked after by his sister, presumably at his parents house!
Doesn't make one iota of difference.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 10:30:23 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 10:32:08 GMT 1
No he still travelled while possibly infectious and did what we were ALL specifically asked not to. The sister could quite easily have gone to his house where the child would have been on the door step for her to pick up without needing to see them and then taken the child back to her house IF it were at all necessary.
As I say liars, hypocrites and cheats the lot of them and I would feel the same whichever political party was involved.
He attended SAGE meetings he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 10:35:50 GMT 1
Statement from Downing Street.
Downing Street has responded to the allegations that Boris Johnson's chief advisor broke lockdown rules to stay with his family.
A No 10 spokesman said: "Owing to his wife being infected with suspected Coronavirus and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for.
"His sister and nieces had volunteered to help so he went to a house near to but separate from his extended family in case their help was needed. His sister shopped for the family and left everything outside.
"At no stage was he or his family spoken to by the police about this matter, as is being reported. His actions were in line with coronavirus guidelines. Mr Cummings believes he behaved reasonably and legally."
More questions than answers there!
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Post by staffordshrew on May 23, 2020 10:41:23 GMT 1
Reports now coming out that Cummings is claiming that he was taking his son to be looked after by his sister, presumably at his parents house! Doesn't make one iota of difference. Makes it worse. If he, someone with symptoms, was going to put his child, who might be carrying the virus, with another person then there is a very good chance of virus spread - that is not self isolation in anyone's books. Based on the Downing Street statement, was he intending to look after the child as he progressed through the desease on his own with supplies being left outside the door? Makes no sense, he could have done that in London. As said, more questions than answers.
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Post by northwestman on May 23, 2020 10:48:06 GMT 1
'My husband did rush home to look after me. He’s an extremely kind man, whatever people assume to the contrary. But 24 hours later, he said ‘I feel weird’ and collapsed. I felt breathless, sometimes achy, but Dom couldn’t get out of bed. Day in, day out for ten days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way'. Mary Wakefield (Cummings' wife) writing in the Spectator.
So we are now being asked to believe that in that 24 hour window between arriving home and collapsing, Cummings made the decision to relocate to Durham.
I trust that checks are now being made with Durham police to verify as to whether or not they were actually involved.
And how on earth can it be claimed that his actions were in line with coronavirus guidelines?
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 10:50:14 GMT 1
Lies, damn lies and twisting the facts. Excuse me I thought it was reported at the time that he did have the symptoms?
The true fact is that Boris isn’t up to running the country without him and he’s an arrogant to..ser so no way will he be gone.
We are stuck and very possibly doomed for the foreseeable future.
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Post by ssshrew on May 23, 2020 10:51:03 GMT 1
'My husband did rush home to look after me. He’s an extremely kind man, whatever people assume to the contrary. But 24 hours later, he said ‘I feel weird’ and collapsed. I felt breathless, sometimes achy, but Dom couldn’t get out of bed. Day in, day out for ten days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way'. Mary Wakefield (Cummings' wife) writing in the Spectator. So we are now being asked to believe that in that 24 hour window between arriving home and collapsing, Cummings made the decision to relocate to Durham. I trust that checks are now being made with Durham police to verify as to whether or not they were actually involved. And how on earth can it be claimed that his actions were in line with coronavirus guidelines? It can’t . See my previous post. Twisted facts. Liars the lot of them.
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