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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 20:25:26 GMT 1
Simply substitute the word "will" for "could". There, job done, back in the box. I could if there was a will to substitute Good job it wasn't SC, he makes his substitutions too late
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 9, 2022 20:55:33 GMT 1
Just wondering - this thread is at 460 pages but not too many have disclosed if they have actually had Covid and how it affected them. Fire away.
This is in response to Phlch's post earlier today. How many others that contribute on here have had it?
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 20:59:39 GMT 1
Just wondering - this thread is at 460 pages but not too many have disclosed if they have actually had Covid and how it affected them. Fire away. This is in response to Phlch's post earlier today. How many others that contribute on here have had it? unusually interesting point from you on this thread ;-) yes, would be interesting to know maybe start a new thread asking who has had it, how many times and how bad etc
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 21:05:53 GMT 1
Just wondering - this thread is at 460 pages but not too many have disclosed if they have actually had Covid and how it affected them. Fire away. This is in response to Phlch's post earlier today. How many others that contribute on here have had it? Never knowingly had it, although I keep getting told I’m a Covidiot on here so must’ve had it. It was that brutal, I didn’t know I know family members of varying ages from 20 to 90 who have had it, none of them had worse than a common cold, some wouldn’t have had a clue had it not been forced testing for work Thinking about it - I don’t know anybody who’s had it badly, some a bit rough at worst but no worse than rough cold or draining sickness bug
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 9, 2022 21:09:49 GMT 1
Just wondering - this thread is at 460 pages but not too many have disclosed if they have actually had Covid and how it affected them. Fire away. This is in response to Phlch's post earlier today. How many others that contribute on here have had it? unusually interesting point from you on this thread ;-) yes, would be interesting to know maybe start a new thread asking who has had it, how many times and how bad etc The last thing we need right now is a second coronorvirus thread I would think..... Only reason for my asking is because I'm not sure if I had it a couple of weeks ago. I had 2 days quite soar throat followed by 2/3 days of head cold like symptoms then it all cleared up as quick as it came. Other that those symptoms I felt on top of the world, indeed I did more decent bike riding that week than I've done all year so far. As I was in Spain with no tests available so I didnt. The other 3 people with me all tested positive once they got home, I didnt but all symptoms had gone anyway. All 3 have felt a bit under the weather but no significant problems. If that was my brush with it then I'd take it every day over a full blown headcold.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 21:14:57 GMT 1
My experience:
My daughter had it - She's young, but was quite unwell for a couple of weeks, close to a hospital admission, advised by the NHS helpline to get in touch immediately if the particulatr symptoms persisted. She kept well away from coming home to dad until testing negative and ok. Good job she has no underlying health conditions, fully vaccinated of course.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 9, 2022 21:18:49 GMT 1
My experience: My daughter had it - She's young, but was quite unwell for a couple of weeks, close to a hospital admission, advised by the NHS helpline to get in toudh immediately if the particulatr symptoms persisted. She kept well away from coming home to dad until testing negative and ok. So not you then, so far at least. The question was "which posters", not "who do we know" 😉
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Post by staffordshrew on May 9, 2022 21:23:18 GMT 1
My experience: My daughter had it - She's young, but was quite unwell for a couple of weeks, close to a hospital admission, advised by the NHS helpline to get in toudh immediately if the particulatr symptoms persisted. She kept well away from coming home to dad until testing negative and ok. So not you then, so far at least. The question was "which posters", not "who do we know" 😉 Daughter is family, not just someone I know. Or, as they say on Eastenders "Famlee", at least they did when I was forced to watch it!
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 21:31:07 GMT 1
unusually interesting point from you on this thread ;-) yes, would be interesting to know maybe start a new thread asking who has had it, how many times and how bad etc The last thing we need right now is a second coronorvirus thread I would think..... Only reason for my asking is because I'm not sure if I had it a couple of weeks ago. I had 2 days quite soar throat followed by 2/3 days of head cold like symptoms then it all cleared up as quick as it came. Other that those symptoms I felt on top of the world, indeed I did more decent bike riding that week than I've done all year so far. As I was in Spain with no tests available so I didnt. The other 3 people with me all tested positive once they got home, I didnt but all symptoms had gone anyway. All 3 have felt a bit under the weather but no significant problems. If that was my brush with it then I'd take it every day over a full blown headcold. yeah don't bother then the world might end, it will leave room for more important posts like who's ditching their facemask on Monday etc
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 21:32:10 GMT 1
Just wondering - this thread is at 460 pages but not too many have disclosed if they have actually had Covid and how it affected them. Fire away. This is in response to Phlch's post earlier today. How many others that contribute on here have had it? Never knowingly had it, although I keep getting told I’m a Covidiot on here so must’ve had it. It was that brutal, I didn’t know I know family members of varying ages from 20 to 90 who have had it, none of them had worse than a common cold, some wouldn’t have had a clue had it not been forced testing for work Thinking about it - I don’t know anybody who’s had it badly, some a bit rough at worst but no worse than rough cold or draining sickness bug can you link some of these posts where you've been called a covidiot ?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 9, 2022 21:37:07 GMT 1
The last thing we need right now is a second coronorvirus thread I would think..... Only reason for my asking is because I'm not sure if I had it a couple of weeks ago. I had 2 days quite soar throat followed by 2/3 days of head cold like symptoms then it all cleared up as quick as it came. Other that those symptoms I felt on top of the world, indeed I did more decent bike riding that week than I've done all year so far. As I was in Spain with no tests available so I didnt. The other 3 people with me all tested positive once they got home, I didnt but all symptoms had gone anyway. All 3 have felt a bit under the weather but no significant problems. If that was my brush with it then I'd take it every day over a full blown headcold. yeah don't bother then the world might end, it will leave room for more important posts like who's ditching their facemask on Monday etc Facemasks? Yeh I remember folks wearing them in the dim and distant past. You dont see too many of them around now do you (thankfully).
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 21:41:10 GMT 1
yeah don't bother then the world might end, it will leave room for more important posts like who's ditching their facemask on Monday etc Facemasks? Yeh I remember folks wearing them in the dim and distant past. You dont see too many of them around now do you (thankfully). Was always going to be the case, people soon fall in to line, they just need some of us to lead the way and take the dogs abuse and slander before it catches on to ditch them Saying that, went for a walk this evening and a poor young woman walking outside on her own in the middle of nowhere still had one on. Very sad and quite upsetting really
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 21:50:20 GMT 1
Facemasks? Yeh I remember folks wearing them in the dim and distant past. You dont see too many of them around now do you (thankfully). Was always going to be the case, people soon fall in to line, they just need some of us to lead the way and take the dogs abuse and slander before it catches on to ditch them Saying that, went for a walk this evening and a poor young woman walking outside on her own in the middle of nowhere still had one on. Very sad and quite upsetting really did you ask what underlying illness did she might have ? maybe she knew you were walking the other way
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 22:08:32 GMT 1
Was always going to be the case, people soon fall in to line, they just need some of us to lead the way and take the dogs abuse and slander before it catches on to ditch them Saying that, went for a walk this evening and a poor young woman walking outside on her own in the middle of nowhere still had one on. Very sad and quite upsetting really did you ask what underlying illness did she might have ? maybe she knew you were walking the other way The clue was in the words “outside on her own in the middle of nowhere”. Fair play, this thread gives me a laugh on a boring evening in. What do you think I do, go round grabbing random people coughing in their faces? 😂😂😂
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 22:17:22 GMT 1
did you ask what underlying illness did she might have ? maybe she knew you were walking the other way The clue was in the words “outside on her own in the middle of nowhere”. Fair play, this thread gives me a laugh on a boring evening in. What do you think I do, go round grabbing random people coughing in their faces? 😂😂😂 some people wore masks outdoors long before covid, I bet you mocked them too have you even considered the bleeding obvious ? she currently has covid and is quite respectful of others ? no I guess not
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 22:26:13 GMT 1
The clue was in the words “outside on her own in the middle of nowhere”. Fair play, this thread gives me a laugh on a boring evening in. What do you think I do, go round grabbing random people coughing in their faces? 😂😂😂 some people wore masks outdoors long before covid, I bet you mocked them too have you even considered the bleeding obvious ? she currently has covid and is quite respectful of others ? no I guess not Some big easy chomps on this page 😂
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 22:31:51 GMT 1
some people wore masks outdoors long before covid, I bet you mocked them too have you even considered the bleeding obvious ? she currently has covid and is quite respectful of others ? no I guess not Some big easy chomps on this page 😂 penny dropped did it and you still try to worm your way out of the embarrassing posts you made like you always do by pretending you are a fisherman oh dear
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Post by Valerioch on May 9, 2022 22:36:55 GMT 1
Some big easy chomps on this page 😂 penny dropped did it and you still try to worm your way out of the embarrassing posts you made like you always do by pretending you are a fisherman oh dear Of course, if it makes you feel better 😂
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 22:55:39 GMT 1
penny dropped did it and you still try to worm your way out of the embarrassing posts you made like you always do by pretending you are a fisherman oh dear Of course, if it makes you feel better 😂 In all the excitement you’ve forgotten to link to all those posts calling you a covidiot 😜
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 12, 2022 17:00:32 GMT 1
with testing the way it is i cant see how reliable the figuers are but this is good news as the figures of hospital admissions down, covid patients in acute beds down and deaths down www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61426279"Covid: Wales' hospital admissions lowest for nine months"
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Post by Pilch on May 12, 2022 21:22:08 GMT 1
with testing the way it is i cant see how reliable the figuers are but this is good news as the figures of hospital admissions down, covid patients in acute beds down and deaths down www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61426279"Covid: Wales' hospital admissions lowest for nine months" the fact we forced herd immunity saw those catch it reach unbelievable high numbers , and unfortunately brought in the survival of the fittest rule, luckily the likes of me were saved but the vaccine & the weaker variant , deaths will drop as unfortunately people can only die once, I've felt invincible since getting over the worst but whatever the time period is before you can catch it again I really don't want it again so if everyone can politely catch it now I would be most grateful ;-)
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Post by neilsalop on May 13, 2022 6:07:01 GMT 1
As of yesterday there have been over 176,000 Covid related deaths in the UK. The amount of people suffering with 'Long Covid' will probably never be accurately recorded, but is likely to be in excess 2m.
There are currently at least two variants doing the rounds in Africa that are deemed to be of interest and either one could quite easily become dominant, just as Omicron and Delta did. Fortunately Omicron was reasonably mild, whereas Delta was not quite as transmissible. To be honest we dodged a bullet there. If either of these new variants were to have the transmission rate of Omicron and the severity of Delta the whole world could be heading for trouble. Now imagine how bad it would get if a new variant also developed vaccine resistance.
Funny how most of the new variants have appeared to pop up in Africa or India, the places that are still after all this time struggling to get vaccines, some of this may well be vaccine hesitancy, but much of it is lack of help and funding. Some countries in Africa have vaccination rates below 5 %, even South Africa only has 30%.
I was calling for the vaccines to be made open source back in January last year. Not giving our shots away to anyone, not cutting back on our own manufacturing, just giving poorer countries the knowledge and help to produce their own supplies based on the development by companies in the west. I really hope that the decision to not go down that route doesn't come back to bite us on the 'arris.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 13, 2022 8:47:07 GMT 1
As of yesterday there have been over 176,000 Covid related deaths in the UK. The amount of people suffering with 'Long Covid' will probably never be accurately recorded, but is likely to be in excess 2m.
There are currently at least two variants doing the rounds in Africa that are deemed to be of interest and either one could quite easily become dominant, just as Omicron and Delta did. Fortunately Omicron was reasonably mild, whereas Delta was not quite as transmissible. To be honest we dodged a bullet there. If either of these new variants were to have the transmission rate of Omicron and the severity of Delta the whole world could be heading for trouble. Now imagine how bad it would get if a new variant also developed vaccine resistance.
Funny how most of the new variants have appeared to pop up in Africa or India, the places that are still after all this time struggling to get vaccines, some of this may well be vaccine hesitancy, but much of it is lack of help and funding. Some countries in Africa have vaccination rates below 5 %, even South Africa only has 30%.
I was calling for the vaccines to be made open source back in January last year. Not giving our shots away to anyone, not cutting back on our own manufacturing, just giving poorer countries the knowledge and help to produce their own supplies based on the development by companies in the west. I really hope that the decision to not go down that route doesn't come back to bite us on the 'arris.
it is the most human thing to do and save lives
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Post by Pilch on May 13, 2022 9:26:39 GMT 1
As of yesterday there have been over 176,000 Covid related deaths in the UK. The amount of people suffering with 'Long Covid' will probably never be accurately recorded, but is likely to be in excess 2m.
There are currently at least two variants doing the rounds in Africa that are deemed to be of interest and either one could quite easily become dominant, just as Omicron and Delta did. Fortunately Omicron was reasonably mild, whereas Delta was not quite as transmissible. To be honest we dodged a bullet there. If either of these new variants were to have the transmission rate of Omicron and the severity of Delta the whole world could be heading for trouble. Now imagine how bad it would get if a new variant also developed vaccine resistance.
Funny how most of the new variants have appeared to pop up in Africa or India, the places that are still after all this time struggling to get vaccines, some of this may well be vaccine hesitancy, but much of it is lack of help and funding. Some countries in Africa have vaccination rates below 5 %, even South Africa only has 30%.
I was calling for the vaccines to be made open source back in January last year. Not giving our shots away to anyone, not cutting back on our own manufacturing, just giving poorer countries the knowledge and help to produce their own supplies based on the development by companies in the west. I really hope that the decision to not go down that route doesn't come back to bite us on the 'arris.
out of interest, when you say 'Not giving our shots away to anyone' , who is 'our' and when did they give their formula away , just curious that's all
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Post by neilsalop on May 13, 2022 11:52:15 GMT 1
As of yesterday there have been over 176,000 Covid related deaths in the UK. The amount of people suffering with 'Long Covid' will probably never be accurately recorded, but is likely to be in excess 2m.
There are currently at least two variants doing the rounds in Africa that are deemed to be of interest and either one could quite easily become dominant, just as Omicron and Delta did. Fortunately Omicron was reasonably mild, whereas Delta was not quite as transmissible. To be honest we dodged a bullet there. If either of these new variants were to have the transmission rate of Omicron and the severity of Delta the whole world could be heading for trouble. Now imagine how bad it would get if a new variant also developed vaccine resistance.
Funny how most of the new variants have appeared to pop up in Africa or India, the places that are still after all this time struggling to get vaccines, some of this may well be vaccine hesitancy, but much of it is lack of help and funding. Some countries in Africa have vaccination rates below 5 %, even South Africa only has 30%.
I was calling for the vaccines to be made open source back in January last year. Not giving our shots away to anyone, not cutting back on our own manufacturing, just giving poorer countries the knowledge and help to produce their own supplies based on the development by companies in the west. I really hope that the decision to not go down that route doesn't come back to bite us on the 'arris.
out of interest, when you say 'Not giving our shots away to anyone' , who is 'our' and when did they give their formula away , just curious that's all If you remember you were the one shouting me down for even suggesting that the vaccines should be made open source, accusing me of wanting to give away the UK's allocation and the people of this country going without, when I clearly said that poorer countries without the wherewithal to develop vaccines could in many cases at least be able to produce their own without having to take any vaccines from the UK. If a new variant comes along that is vaccine resistant it is more likely to come from a country or region that is still in the grip of the pandemic. We could easily be back at square one again and none of us want that. Surely having worldwide availability and uptake is a better option.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 13, 2022 13:51:32 GMT 1
As of yesterday there have been over 176,000 Covid related deaths in the UK. The amount of people suffering with 'Long Covid' will probably never be accurately recorded, but is likely to be in excess 2m.
There are currently at least two variants doing the rounds in Africa that are deemed to be of interest and either one could quite easily become dominant, just as Omicron and Delta did. Fortunately Omicron was reasonably mild, whereas Delta was not quite as transmissible. To be honest we dodged a bullet there. If either of these new variants were to have the transmission rate of Omicron and the severity of Delta the whole world could be heading for trouble. Now imagine how bad it would get if a new variant also developed vaccine resistance.
Funny how most of the new variants have appeared to pop up in Africa or India, the places that are still after all this time struggling to get vaccines, some of this may well be vaccine hesitancy, but much of it is lack of help and funding. Some countries in Africa have vaccination rates below 5 %, even South Africa only has 30%.
I was calling for the vaccines to be made open source back in January last year. Not giving our shots away to anyone, not cutting back on our own manufacturing, just giving poorer countries the knowledge and help to produce their own supplies based on the development by companies in the west. I really hope that the decision to not go down that route doesn't come back to bite us on the 'arris.
i whent on the UN site to get an update on how they were doing and found these rather depressing stats, who know what impact having ,the oxford vaccine been trashed by the media had on supplies to poorer countrys at much lower prices than Pfizer, one event i recalled was South Africa bining all there oxford vaccines. Doses given; From Our World in Data " India has given out 11.7 billion vaccinations 60% of the population are fully vaccinated and this is the oxford vaccine produced under licence in India " Vaccinations by location www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/pfizer-full-year-2021-revenues/"Pfizer reports 92% operational growth in full-year 2021 revenues The company provided full year 2022 guidance for revenues in the range of $98bn to $102bn." reliefweb.int/report/world/team-europe-vaccine-sharing-almost-100-million-j-j-doses-be-donated-end-2021-first"The first shipments of almost 100 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine from Team Europe" lordslibrary.parliament.uk/global-covid-19-vaccine-donations-uk-contribution/"The UK will donate 5 million doses by the end of September, beginning in the coming weeks, primarily for use in the world’s poorest countries. The Prime Minister has also committed to donating a further 95 million doses within the next year, including 25 million more by the end of 2021. 80% of the 100 million doses will go to Covax and the remainder will be shared bilaterally with countries in need." www.wsj.com/articles/biden-to-pledge-500-million-more-pfizer-vaccine-donations-for-poor-nations-at-u-n-covid-19-summit-11632304800"Biden Pledges 500 Million More Pfizer Vaccine Donations for Poor Nations at U.N. Covid-19 Summit Additional doses bring total U.S. commitment to 1.1 billion shots to be delivered to developing countries" news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1114762"In September 2021, the World Health Organization (WHO) set an ambitious global target. The UN health agency called for 70 per cent of the global population to be vaccinated by mid-2022. At that point, just over three per cent of people in low-income countries had been vaccinated with at least one dose, compared to 60.18 per cent in high-income countries. "The overall number of vaccines administered has risen dramatically, but so has the inequality of the distribution: of the more than 10 billion doses given out worldwide, only one per cent have been administered in low-income countries."
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Post by Pilch on May 14, 2022 9:48:04 GMT 1
so we are almost down to 200,000 cases a day, down from over half a million a day !
excellent
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Post by Pilch on May 14, 2022 10:08:34 GMT 1
out of interest, when you say 'Not giving our shots away to anyone' , who is 'our' and when did they give their formula away , just curious that's all If you remember you were the one shouting me down for even suggesting that the vaccines should be made open source, accusing me of wanting to give away the UK's allocation and the people of this country going without, when I clearly said that poorer countries without the wherewithal to develop vaccines could in many cases at least be able to produce their own without having to take any vaccines from the UK. If a new variant comes along that is vaccine resistant it is more likely to come from a country or region that is still in the grip of the pandemic. We could easily be back at square one again and none of us want that. Surely having worldwide availability and uptake is a better option. I clearly remember that, what I asked was which ones of 'our' shots did we make available on open source like you've stated we did
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Post by davycrockett on May 14, 2022 10:26:45 GMT 1
so we are almost down to 200,000 cases a day, down from over half a million a day ! excellent Whoops think you’ve got the comma in the wrong place…daily figures rolling average at 04/05 was 26,280….
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Post by neilsalop on May 14, 2022 10:33:48 GMT 1
If you remember you were the one shouting me down for even suggesting that the vaccines should be made open source, accusing me of wanting to give away the UK's allocation and the people of this country going without, when I clearly said that poorer countries without the wherewithal to develop vaccines could in many cases at least be able to produce their own without having to take any vaccines from the UK. If a new variant comes along that is vaccine resistant it is more likely to come from a country or region that is still in the grip of the pandemic. We could easily be back at square one again and none of us want that. Surely having worldwide availability and uptake is a better option. I clearly remember that, what I asked was which ones of 'our' shots did we make available on open source like you've stated we did I really can't make out if you're being deliberately obtuse or ... The problem is that we haven't made the vaccines open source, so poorer countries are having to pay through the nose for the vaccines, even though some of them could feasibly make their own if they were given the chance. Wealthy countries are keeping stockpiles back to give their own people a fourth jab, while many poor countries can't even give their people a first dose.
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